Are They Already Here? Fermi Paradox Solutions w/ Jacob Haqq-Misra and Thomas Fauchez 

I love how popular this programme has become 🙂🙂🙂

This is the most underrated podcast/channel on these topics! Soon to be a million subs

Great interview again JMG, many thanks. I’m with Jacques Vallee, Hynek and McDonald on this. The phenomena is all to frikken weird and demands urgent, open scrutiny.

You always ask the best questions.

Love your show and isaac Arthur's. I've been listening to them every night in bed for a few years. Problem is I usually fall asleep mid way though so I need to listen to each episode like 4 times.

We should check (for engineered markers) at the Lunar Centerpointe, Poles, and opposite of the Centerpointe on the far side. These a 4 very specific but naturally derivable locations knowable within inches.

I'm so excited about total disclosure! I'm aware that most likely will be forced somehow. But exciting none the less.

Really fantastic interview, John! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

Can't get enough of your podcast. Greetings from Germany :)

Yes. Emphatically yes. And the military should be studying them. Even if you think they aren't from another planet (and probably especially if you think that) the military should be sending up aircraft with better imaging equipment when they encounter these things to determine exactly what they are. At the very least they should be viewing them as a security threat. We need more data.

It's official, these fermi podcasts will never get old

Scientists think studying it will ruin their reputation. Not studying it is ruining their reputation. You can only deny science so much until people wonder why you're even a scientist in the first place.

Just imagine if we had a global effort where all countries of the world put their money into the same sources all over the planet working together simultaneously toward these discoveries, there'd be no competition, you wouldn't have other countries keeping secrets from other countries if they found better ways to do things, you wouldn't have people being the ones who want to be first to discover it. Our human competitiveness is good on one hand, however it also holds us back.

This is the best notification of the week . Really !

I was walking my dog when I was young with my late father in the U.K just outside London in a Field it was very late around 10pm we were looking up at the stars and the moon and this thing just zoomed across the sky it was a glowing dark red shape!! It was triangular and it was moving very fast!! We both saw it and it was quite amazing really!!

Great interview!!! I certainly hope we will know in my lifetime. Thanks for the episode.

JMG, thank you for such an awesome channel. It makes my day when I see you’ve loaded new content. 👍

I really enjoyed listening to these guys!

Yes, yes they should be.

John, you are well on top of the question. You ask very pertinent questions. It’s honestly a pleasure to hear you have these conversations and I believe you’re helping to remove the taboo around this topic. The question we ask is a very fundamental one, what is our position in the universe. There is an hierarchy of evidence and ufo uap are the bottom of the pyramid. Techno signature are the one of the highest but physical evidence of structures is the highest. We are only currently looking for evidence lower down the pyramid. Thanks. And absolute pleasure.

Absolutely great episode !

Just what i was waiting for!:)

The only reason you would answer “no” to that question is you are more concerned with your social status than truth itself.

Thank you for your scientifically based channel that asks the questions I would ask.

I wish we could have total disclosure .I want to know how far the truth really stacks up to some of of the most seemingly crazy sounding Alien conspiracy theories that I have found at the bottom of this never ending rabbit hole in which I have fallen into. I find your show a little more real and I know that I don't have to get up every 5 or 10 minutes to select another video , cause I can relax with an extended unpretentious journey to LA la land., and if I do fall asleep,. I just go back to where I assume that I left off before I actually started living it in my dreamscape as I enter the event horizon

EXCELLENT !!! if NOT OUTSTANDING!! WITH HOST JOHN MICHAEL GODIER. AND GUESTS JACOB HAQQ-MISRA. & THOMAS FAUCHEZ. MANY THANKS !! FROM, U.K. (2023).

Yes. It is valid to investigate all phenomena.

This was a fascinating discussion.

What a truly fascinating episode! I do sometimes think that techno signatures may prove undetectable as technology might be so advanced that the technology leaves no noticeable traces or imitates nature…

Isn’t it refreshing to hear people say “that’s a great question” and actually mean it? Wish politics would be more like science.

Yes. I think we have good reason to suggest we should.

Just from past examples, I’m convinced that even if we find good evidence of an actual technosignature, the scientific consensus will settle on the second best explanation.

The highlight of my friday , fantastic content John , have a great weekend..

Solution to the Fermi Paradox: Stealth

Absolutely brilliant. Love this channel

If you keep uploading videos like this on both channels every day I’m not gonna have a way to sleep without it

I very much liked their responses to these questions.

That rebar question was great man. Pretty funny

This I know from personal experience as a retired counterintelligence agent of 21 years and a UAP investigator with MAPIT since 2016 (both DD214 and Certification available upon appropriate venue request): 1) The gatekeepers will not allow for release of viable information - they are paid to retain and disseminate information according to internal organizational and legal requirements, 2) Investigators, researchers, and various scientific field collaborators can not meet on common ground due to career protectionism, access to data, and/or security clearance requirements (example: A National Lab Plasma Physics Scientist can not share information they have gained in the course of their duties with University level or special program individuals due to compartmentalization, contract, and legal recourse), 3) Managers do not and will not give up their careers and cast their pearls to pigs, 4) Those that fund research are privy to it and their advantages gained are not shared... no one is that altruistic.

hah, thank you Dr. Fauchez, I have been saying for a long time that it's not the job of Science to "prove" anything exists, rather the pursuit to prove or merely describe with some degree of confidence on how something works. If something needs to be added to the mix that wasn't known before well that's fine. It's the scientific approach of interpreting data to understand how something works that is our best hope to prove that something exists because it may need to be introduced to support the description, but we're not looking for proof of existence, we truly want to know far more than that so let's not settle. Thank you so much as always for your excellent interviews.

Wait until a star is close enough for easy interstellar travel? That puts a new spin on Lovecraft’s “When the Stars Are Right.” 😄

Thanks again!

Great as always John

You were too easy on them when they answered to your question about oumuamua. Why was it just a rock? How do they explain its velocity? Etc. etc. They really prove the criticism Avi has only of his colleagues. They litteraly state that it doesn't fit any prediction about a normal interstellar object, so it has to be an unknown sort of rock/natural object. Because an artificial object is too uncomfortable to consider?

I still believe an advanced underwater civilization in our oceans is a more likely explanation for UAPs than an extraterrestrial origin. Especially considering we have explored the surface of Mars more than we have the surface of our deep seas. PS- Maybe an idea for a future episode? 🤔

I'm too in my 40s and I really hope I get an answer to if we are alone before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

Our technical advancement is proofing the reality, the better our tools are getting the more we are able to observe their behavior.

Great stuff!

I love this show because I don't have to train my eyes on a little screen. I can rest my head on my pillow and close my eyes, and still see ., also I find the background music very soothing.

"We could get into talking about the Fermi Paradox". Oh, we will! 👽

I absolutely love these shows John, I would love to hear you interview Richard Dolan some time, that would be an awesome interview!!!

Great video !

An hour of thoughts and discussions closed with the possum controlling all eventuality’s and Anna taking all the money, love these keep up the amazing work!!!

My question when it comes to policy is: "How much resources should we allocate to a certain program?" There are many great things we want to accomplish, but the budgets and other resources are finite and limit what we can do. Of course, many great causes are forgone/underfunded due to this reason.

Imagine how sad extraterrestrials are gonna be when they get here and learn that Elvis has left the building.

2001:ASO the monolith was buried deep, so that was a good idea to protect it from sun exposure and meteors. The strong magnetic field is what drew the attention of astronauts. A lunar satellite actually. A space faring, technological species would be the only ones to to trigger it by excavation.

With multiple countries confirming these objects exist especially Brazil confirming they chased 21 of these crafts able to fly at 11,500 mph with no sonic boom. We need to study them to be able to reproduce the observed capabilities. We already wasted 80 years by being close minded.

Thank you

seems you have taken a comment I made to heart. Great video

As much as I enjoy the talks, I rarely get half way through before I'm 💤 👍

Excellent

Wouldn't it be funny if our moon turned into an alien artifact? I've recently learned All lunar craters are comparatively shallow; Unlike Mars and Earth, there are no extra deep craters. There are no lunar "grand Canyons." Second newly learned fact, there are room temperature shafts on the moon. Those two undisputed facts, taken together, seem to have interesting implications.

Yes, and they are currently studied, to determine what phenomenon cause them.

27:11 I like this abstract, they are starting to look at the galaxy as an ecology.

Honnestly... if you look at all the events that shaped human intelligence and evolution on earth... its pretty unique. Life exist else where... but if we accept that intelligence isnt a common response to survival and evolution... then make peace with the small probability of meeting another intelligent life form.

Yeah they're here, I've seen it.

Carlotto applied fractal analysis to explore the possibility of artificiality with regards to features on Mars he did this thirty or so years ago...his findings were quite surprising..it would be easy to do a much wider survey of Mars if NASA would cooperate but there is a reason they aren't ever going to do that

Yes, they‘ve been here observing… and left for home, giggling.

Positive waves, sir.

Awesome

I like the cautious but rational optimism expressed by these guests about the prospect of discovering ETI.

@ Eryn, We don't "fall into the event horizon", we cross it, thought it might ring truer seeing this channel is about most things space

Jmg killing this thing As ALWAYS

awesome show listen to it every day but who does the MUSIC , ITS SO NICE

I saw a UFO on the 4th of July, 2009 in a suburb of Philadelphia. I know what I saw. It vanished into thin air right before my eyes. It was an epistemological shock for me.

Hmmm... Perhaps we should try to put Project Galileo's sensors on commercial airplanes? They seem to relate them a lot... 🤔

The last question of the video this man had, reminded me of a Albert Einstein quote. "Imagination is more important than knowledge". Albert Einstein.

The rabbit hole is very deep. Be careful not to lose yourself in it. Sometimes I have a feeling that it's all true. There are so many accounts and many of them sound really out there. There's so many it's hard to dismiss. If you have had an experience, will you share it in the future?

People that built the universe are on earth right now

Another great video. Thank you. I thought that asking your guests where aliens would place a monolith was very interesting, because it didn't mention any specifications which gave them both the opportunity to fill those in for themselves, like with what purpose, and including habitation or not (yet). Having said that, it would also be interesting to see a discussion about those specifications. Like, if aliens were able to travel to our solar system, they would either do it the hard way, involving huge amounts of distance, time, effort and sacrifice, or they would do it in a much easier way that is unknown to us. The huge difference in those methods would determine huge differences in purpose and goals, and it would be great to have people speculate about that. In my view, it's either very hard to reach other solar systems, in which case you cant bring tons of rocks for a monolith, but you would try to do important stuff, like starting a colony if it's still uninhabited, OR it's very easy for them to reach us and in that case there is no need to plant a monolith anywhere. They would be able to pick their own moment of careful, non-intrusive exposure, like maybe starting with raising awareness by no longer hiding their exploration drones constantly, or by creating some freely interpretable symbolic art pieces in fields around the world that would be too complicated for humans to create. ;) It would also be very interesting (to me at least) to have people talk about a reversed scenario. What would WE do if we discovered a lower developed intelligent species somewhere? Would we make ourselves known or not? What would determine that decision? What would our ethics be, the same as on Earth? Hopefully not. What would we do if we found something invaluable to us, but also to them? Will we take their idol and run like Kirk, or will we stick to the Prime Directive, this time? - you know, some average big questions. Pardon my ramblings, this stuff fascinates me to no end. :)

Spoocky that i ever would say following words " ...thank god its Thursday. " 😁😉

What about the monolith that Buzz Aldrin said was on Phobos?

Very entertaining.

Interesting.

Very Yes👽👽

Alien intelligence may already have scout/watcher devices already in place hidden on Earth. Even if aliens haven't directly landed here, then its quite feasible for them to have installed an autonomous nano observation/listening device on one of our space vehicles returning to Earth, from as far back as the first Moon landings.

PBS Space time did an episode on a paper regarding the matter. Aired on 9th november. It has a lot of assumptions, but has a surprising outcomes

For me, the most likely candidates for dealing with Fermi’s Paradox are (in no particular order): The Zoo Hypothesis: just like we observe nature without wishing to interfere for ethical reasons, aliens might want to do the same. Besides, if we’re too stupid to figure out how not to extinguish ourselves then what’s the point of making contact with us. Better to leave it until we figure out how to raise our game to their level. The Great Filter: look what’s happening around us now. Climate crisis, conflict, overpopulation. Maybe the Apex of high intelligence only takes you as far as self-annihilation and that’s it - no one can go beyond that. So maybe there have been and will be trillions of civilisations like ours who can never go beyond our current level. Simulation Theory: If we are just a self-contained simulation, then why do we need aliens to be simulated. Multiverse: maybe there are an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of intelligent beings, but maybe it’s one universe, one intelligence. So, we might not be alone, we’re just alone in our own little corner of our universe in a sea of universes, each with their own.

This channel has quality. I don't belive they are already here. The file is closed.

Just found the channel and love it already! That said, I tire of intellectuals speaking of alien life while completely discrediting uap's. I understand we don't know what they are. But we do know they are intelligently controlled. We know they defy known physics. We know they are transmedium(can go from space to air to water). So everything they can do, we would expect an advanced alien craft to be able to do. This is all claimed and proven through our own military and independent research. So why do we not start treating this as a major scientific interest? I can't believe we are not setting up every kind of sensor and recording devices available to monitor and gather data. The navy has encountered uap regularly in the same area. We are ostrich with heads in sand.

John, you're doing a great service to science here by opening up the minds of younger scientists to possibilities they may never have seriously considered as real options. Amazing.

At this point is the answer to the Fermi Paradox that the assumptions that suggest we should be swimming in aliens is just wrong? I mean make a list of your 'answers'. They are more unlikely than there being a paradox at all. The only answer that doesn't make me roll my eyes are that advanced civilizations just aren't that noisy...and don't need to harness the power of their sun to survive. Until we have the ability to 'see' atmospheres of some large portion of the planets in the MW there is no reason to spend cycles on the paradox.

Whilst meditating, I am ‘told’ that there are direct doorways from here to other worlds. Movement through these doorways, apparently, alters the physical form. In terms of time travel, apparently, pathways to the past have been closed to us.

I think if there was some kind of international probe it'd be hard to get this by. The best you could do is maybe a NATO-EU+ probe a Russian -Chinese+ probe and an everyone else probe maybe at the UN

So happy skits with Your A.I. is back 😂

Everyone has failed to give any examples of what the mean by something worse than aliens. What could be more worrying than an unknown civilization roaming around our planet

You could put these guys responses through gpt-3 and assemble a similar set of responses. This is why interviews with senior level scientists and phd’s are much more compelling. They’re not constantly jockeying to fit within the common narrative. Great questions though

I can't see anything being preserved for long on the irradiated surface of the Moon. Where do they think all that dust comes from?

So what exactly did Commander David Fravour see ?

All these French guys😊! Interesting episode!