Are Those "Handbags" at Göbekli Tepe? 

Whatever they represent they should be looked at by also including the other images into the interpretation of what they may mean. They must be connected in some way, otherwise why would they be on the same pillar.

Medicine bags, or lunch boxes; (with contents inscribed here)! Bird, Swine, Critter, etc.

The idea that they were representations of bags full of seeds, with piercing at the bottom, would make some sense - I've seen similar contraptions in the garden sheds of people I know! And the symbolism of spreading seeds to bring life from the earth would fit too. Prof. David Miano did a video on his World of Antiquity channel on these handbags recently - he didn't say anything about spreading seeds though. He's an expert - I most certainly am not! In fact the idea only just occurred to me about two minutes ago. ;-)

I totally agree with you - I had the same thought when I first saw them and felt that the animal symbols represented families. The larger GT buildings seem to have compartments labelled with different animal figures, so that ownership of whatever was stored in each was clear. Maybe they were a combination of charnal house and seed/root repository. Things that needed to be kept cool, dry, and protected. Hay could also be kept in the roof spaces for winter feed. I think that bull aurochs and the rodents were probably the biggest nuisances back then. Similar stone granaries/haylofts that seem to double as religious spaces spread west across Anatolia and the Mediterranean, and up the Atlantic coast of Iberia, with the most recent forms in Galicia and Northern Spain being the horréos. BTW- the birds identified as vultures are baby pigeons - no doubt an important source of food, as there were no chickens in Europe at that time. Baby pigeons sit with their legs out front, and note the bald wings, and egg-toothy beaks.

Those bags contained a stylus for writing characters onto clay, a stylus, a cylinder clay roll as a Notary Seal, an Insignia Ring with a persons signature or sign, some moist clay, wax, strips of ribbon made from silk, fabric or woven wool and a letter seal stamp in clay to seal any message on papyrus or on clay. And they may have also carried deeds of sale, titles, grants and legal notices. Satraps and Kings, politicians or elites all carried them for passing of secure conscription. At Gobekli they are representing three nations descending from Japheth, Ham and Shem.

I enjoyed your video, but I have a question on your theory; Why would the relief carvings include a "void" in the roof? Should it not be solid when viewed in profile? They could have also incised a motif in this area to indicate a thatched roof.

I think placing the small animals near the top of the bags was their way of showing what they put in the bags, indicating they were hunting carrying bags.

Your suggestion of the bags representing bldgs was interesting. When I noticed the 3 handbags, each with a figure representation it made me think (left to right) a human(?) figure housed, an animal figure housed and food (grains, etc ?) stored. So, a shelter, a barn and a grainery.......? So far, it's mostly speculation and theorizing. There's a lot yet to be discovered adding to the picture. The discovery of Gobekli Tepe sure added to what we didn't know! 😊

I think they're just car doors, telling the story of that one-time, there was a deer in the road, and it hit the windshield. Oh. And then once we hit a great big bird! ... And then Grandpa hit a.... Since these are potentially a people, first looking to become future agriculturists, i tend to see the weave patterns as bundles of wild grains they've harvested, with the three bags indicating their type or location of the grains, or perhaps a grain sacrifice to particular deities. That's a completely speculative and fantastical imagining though. ...unlike my car door theory. 😉

Felix the cat had a bag too and his cousin traveled around in a space ship( Poindexter)

V kultuře a civilizacích, mluvíme vždy o určité organizovanosti skupin, které se potřebují pro vzájemnou komunikaci rozlišovat a mít vymezený prostor. Neolitická kultura se vymezovala kruhovým prostorem a identifikovala reliéfy zvířat a kabelkami. Historicky reliéfy zvířat přešly až do záznamu jména a příjmení v matrice, záznamu prostoru v katastru a obojího na dveřích obydlí. Abychom snadněji pochopili vývoj neolitické symboliky, musíme přejít k pozdějším, početně větším kulturám např. mezopotamské a sumerské. Reliéfy zvířat přešly až do lidských postav se zvířecí hlavou. Přibyli bohové (zakladatelé) rodu s náramkem, v jedné ruce mají šišku vždy nahoře a ve druhé kabelku vždy dole. Šiška pokorně mění i polohu ze svislé na vodorovnou. Obecně šiška symbolizuje vědomí a pokoru k nadřazenosti přírody nad člověkem. Z matematicko-geometrického hlediska jsou šupiny šišky uspořádány do logaritmické spirály. Piniovou šišku vysokou 4 m opatruje Vatikán dodnes, aniž by se vnímal její symbolický význam jako pozůstatek neolitu. Kabelky dokumentují stav rodu a mají vlastnosti zlatého řezu; plocha zlatého čtverce bývá rozšířena dalším zvířetem až do zlatého obdélníka. Rukověť má tvar polokružnice, která spojuje vlastnosti čísla pí se zlatým řezem. Kabelky poskládané za sebou určují po sobě jdoucí generační cykly. Reliéf bývá doplněn stromem života, který dostal v Egyptě vlastní symbol. Dnes vzniká otázka nakolik je symbolika záznamu vědomá a nakolik intuitivní. Vnucuje se i myšlenka na civilizační posun, kdy rozlišení rodového stavu zvířetem, až do stavu, kdy se zakladatel rodu stal bohem a nakonec člověkem, který vstal z mrtvých a vstoupil na nebesa, kde je dodnes.

...imagine "Noah's ark" in the foreground, just in the background the "arch of the handle", wouldn't it look like a "bag"? Especially if the corrosion wore away any paint that existed there to identify the "rainbow" and the "ark". The repetition in three indicates the floors of the Ark, which were three and where each species was housed. Just go and research the subject...

A modern version would be a plastic bag in one hand and a smartphone in the other...

The original bag contained the cone seeds from the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden. This extraterrestrial tree bloomed flower clusters used as ornaments on their wrists. The seeds gave Adam and Eve and their offspring eternal life until they fell out of grace, severing the celestial energy current the seed contained and terminating their extended life. Their descendants carried on the tradition of the bag of seeds as they populated the world and created new kingdoms. Queen Elizabeth held the exact-shaped bag wherever she went and in her portrait.

As synthesist I was working on a project Im calling MetroGnome. It is based upon the phenomenon by where if someone were to line up a couple dozen metronomes and set them off randomly, they will somehow synchronize on their own. A sacred polyrhythm that when variables are attached to different aspects, it will automatically calculate the answer perfectly and in context so all the other "metronomes" are automatically in sync. Once you have a perfect clock, you can walk right through walls if you time it.

I've been pondering these bags for over fifty years. I'm no professional archeologist, but in my humble opinion, the universal explanation for all of them now seems much simpler to me. The bag clearly proffered from outstretched hands is literally a seed bag. But symbolically it is an offer of agriculture, civilization, advancement and trade.

Very interesting and plausible theory about them being buildings with the associated animals.

Imo that was a very informative and fair presentation, great job. I agree that the "handbags" at Gobekli are not the same as the other "bucket" type images. I did wonder when i first heard about buckets, why a bucket would be important but if it contains water, like you suggest, it seems perfectly feasible.

Hi. Everything is much simpler than it may seem. All animals on the pillars represent the terrain, that's why these animals look so strange, because they are symbolic representations of hills, mountains, and so on. The well-known "bags" are waves, the small animals above them represent the destruction these waves can bring. So the pillars are a map of the terrain and "bags" (waves) warn people that it's dangerous there. If you open Google Maps and look thoroughly you can see it. Good Luck.

I have seen many handbags also carried by ancient kings (carvings) from all over the world! At time 4:46 I can see 3 sorts of birds on the lower right, a Vulture, Duck and Flamingo and a strange hooked beak bird playing football :)

It is a suggestive hypothesis that would explain the presence of animals at the top, on the sides, but it is also a truly minimal way to represent buildings. I hope that with further excavations, a definitive answer can be given.

For a practically identical symbol to appear in the Middle East and in Mexico in a time span of about 2000 years. Well, that's too much of a coincidence..

When these "things" represent buildings, there is the same problem as with the baskets, no texture... and why is the roof represented with two lines? I hope there is a better explanation, someone is able to give.

Looks like a bucket to me. I can't imagine why someone would need a bucket.

I don't believe the "bags" are showing the buildings, although a great theory, the emptiness between the "handles" and the "bag" are not mirrored in the buildings. You say there would have been a roof and I believe you are correct, it makes sense, but not a roof with open sides?

It's important to remember that they buried children in baskets at Catalhoyuk, covered with red ochre. That fact alone may narrow down what the baskets mean on Pillar 43. Cheers!

Everyone needs a place for their lip gloss.

Great video boss! 🙏💪

Carrying water, or some other liquid?

The car theory seems the most appropriate. They didn't know about wheels back then, but the idea could have been about anti-gravity vehicles. The passengers in these cars had names related to, and inspired by animals 😉

I saw on in the British Museum taken from Ur, they are actually solid stone.

A pretty ancient language, Welsh, has the word for water: dw(r). So the word provided for water as d(al) w, offers some support , for water bucket

Imho, it doesn't make a lot of sense to be representations of the temples for a number of reasons. The difference in height between the pillars doesn't allow for such a parabolic arch. but i really like the effort, and we certainly cannot exclude this theory

Very well presented, it’s a very balanced view. It could also be that the wheat growing underneath the baskets is what’s needed to make the baskets. That’s why it’s directly underneath growing. Although it would make more sense to have the baskets with wheat carved into them, I think showing the process of how to makes them was more important.

What’s more interesting is that the thumb usually, not always, sticks out towards the front rather than closing around the other fingers, as if pushing a button, lever or something. I kind of doubt symbolism there.

It's an interesting hypothesis, but in my view, to represent a dome roof by the way of drawing two lines coming out from the building (like drawing a cup handle) is a bit odd in my opinion. Like they wanted to draw a see-through cross-section of the dome, but only the dome roof, not the rest of the building. Maybe the roof was not a dome but something else.

I just finished watching another video about these stone pillars and what those images with the little animals on them, the bound sheaf image just below them and the particular animals below that. The hypothesis is that the animals represent a season of the year. Now, you might say, so what? Well, I come from a family of Kansas dry land wheat farmers. There are two times to plant wheat in every calendar year. We see there are 3 bag like images, 2 have clear little animals on them and there seems to be something on the bag to the right, but it isn't as clear. Any guesses about that? If it's a human, does than then indicate the best season for humans to procreate? Could it be that the larger animal images are representative of the four seasons, and the little animals including a human are an instruction to plant during that season? More, a basket like that can be made of leather and can carry water or, with punctures in the bottom, spread seed.

These container type objects appear in the artwork of different people all around the world. They are very similar in design. The big question is why is such a mundane everyday object so important, and why is it so important to various people all around the world? Were the carvings all connected by a common thread? If so, what the hell was it?

Is a hand baterie we can SEE it in the olmec monument of la venta

The symbols illustrate the pot holes used to lever out the blocks. The wave lines above it are the grass surrounding the quarry. The mound is illustrated below, off in the distance from the blocks. The animals surround the landscape. All things that would have been in the field of view of the person represented by the pillar.

Look at the sizes of the handbag-shaped things. They must be depicted from right to left. So that explicates an incident. The first event on the right is that the most dangerous predator goes in first, the one in the middle is a less dangerous animal (wild boar probably), and at the end we see the spirit flying.

I think it's a pair up device it holds your information to control your vehicle or device

I think you're right about the repeprezintation of buildings. The three animals are deferent things. Probably indicating a 3 clan alliance?

Why is it so hard to believe that ancient people were in communication with each other

Can you explain how they date civilizations they find? Found it on your site any more comments will be under the video on dating. Thank you for your effort.

In culture and civilizations, we always talk about a certain organization of groups that need to be distinguished and have a defined space for mutual communication. Communication brings changes in consciousness, changes in technology and changes in lifestyle. When assessing cultural changes, it is necessary to observe what has been added, what has remained and what has, on the contrary, disappeared. With the probability of a certain phenomenon, we can start with the Neolithic culture, which was architecturally defined primarily by a circle (the shape of the Sun and the Moon) and a mix of reliefs of animals and handbags. Historically, the reliefs went up to the digital recording of the surname in the matrix or family tree and in the cadastre recorded the ownership of the space. In order to more easily understand the development of changes without fantasizing, it is good to start with a comparison with the numerically larger Neolithic cultures. In the Mesopotamian and Sumerian cultures, reliefs of animals reached up to deified figures of man with an animal head. The main human-headed gods are followed by animal-headed figures with various attributes. The main gods have added bracelets, a pinecone in one hand is always on top and a purse is always on the bottom in the other. The significance of the symbolism of animals and handbags has been given a higher dimension for practical reasons. The pine cone at the top symbolizes wise awareness and humility to the superiority of nature over man. But from a mathematical-geometric point of view, nature arranged the scales of the pine cone in a logarithmic spiral. The 4 m tall pine cone is kept by the Vatican to this day, without realizing its symbolic significance as a relic of the Neolithic. The handbags document the area, joining and expanding of the lineage in cycles and have properties of the golden section; the area of ​​the square is extended by another animal up to the golden rectangle. The handle has the shape of a semicircle, which combines the properties of the number pi with the golden ratio. Purses stacked in succession determine the cycles of patriarchal expansion and branching of lineages. The relief is divided by the tree of life, which was given its own symbol in Egypt, and the animals appear inversely as an animal with a human head or a human figure with an animal head. The symbolic marking at Göbekli Tepe is a leap change from simplicity to greater complexity. Today, the question arises as to how much the symbolism of the geometric record is mathematically conscious, how intuitive and how much it is an expression of the human ego, which does not change. The idea of ​​shifts in belief is also imposed, when from distinguishing and naming a family by a hunted animal, to a state where the founders of the family became worshiped gods, to the unification of the gods, when a man who rose from the dead and ascended to heaven became a god again, where he is to this day. In any case, identifying remains in different parts of the Earth testify to the migratory search for new space and the diversification of the genetic code.

yeippes humans dumbed down repeating same old stuff .. it’s a frequency device

Those handbag carvings are found in Mesoamerica even in China. These all prove the dating system that we came up with 150 years ago and the paradigm of how man expanded across the continent is falls.

You said in the video that a bucket is a "mundane" object. I was under the impression that every single engraving on the stones had meaning. Otherwise, why document it? I've always wondered if the "handbags" represents Knowledge that was shared between cultures.

Could The gobeki Tepe objects be waves. Them being a dwelling or a directory towards a certain places. Makes the most sense Out of all other theories Ive head

I can tell you exactly what it is. The Pine cone is Corona Borealis and the handbag is just below it above Ophiuchus... between Scorpio and Sagittarius near the galactic centre. The 3 handbags represent the 3 stars at the galactic centre. The Pine cone represents the Blaze star that does a Nova every 80 years... and was also the pole star area around 7400 BC. Pillar 43 is showing Hercules and Corona Borealis and that dot in the centre is Corona Borealis... blaze star area. The Sumerian cylinder seal that Stichin said was showing 12 planets is actually showing the stars around Corona Borealis and the nova itself...every star around it but the stars of corona that are blinded out by the nova. Just look at a star map of Hercules and the stars match up perfect. Nobody on the planet knows what I just said here... but this is all about the Blaze star... The tree of life is the milky way... the bottom of it is the galactic centre. The guy riding the wings on top is the sun in the sky. If he is facing right its the sun going across the sky from left to right... if he is facing left it's the sun going the other way... rising in the west.... Each of those animals above the handbag is one of the stars at the galactic centre.. the boar... the turtle etc... each linked to a supernova event.

passenger side of a pick up truck door with part of the hood with a dear bouncing off the windshield, obvious, no ?

Water buckets...there is fire under the buckets too...they are cooking soups...

If they look like handbags then they are handbags or baskets...so the depictions of a dinosaur like the stegosarus and others must then be exactly that right? you cant use that logic and only oucj and choose when its the case and when its not.

Those handbags are everywhere😮

The bird character at the bottom looks to be holding a ball. Also looks to have teammates. Maybe that was an image of the bird clan going to play ball against the " fox " and "frog" clans. The "handbags" show the "clubhouses" with each teams mascot. Just a thought to consider.

Water buckets. No reason to amplify them to anything else.

Could be water sluices, gates that are lifted or pushed to open or close by handles as modern ones are for water channel irrigation but to catch wild prey like aquatic animals by luring them used before the advent of farming crops with irrigation channels by hunter-gatherer society so I'm wondering because they are sophisticated enough to make a settlement if originally they were nomads knowing the seasons well enough to find an ideal location to start farming wild prey in their local region encoding it making a calendar in their stone works compared to the Sumerians who knew about the Precession of the Equinoxes somehow which is about a 26000 year cycle where no one is meant to be able to live that long. They might have made bread from wild seed traditionally, then eventually began to learn to farm it once settled and bake it because they also look like bread ovens!

The “handbags” are buckets filled with water to feed the tree of life.

The “bags” could be a representation of a hut with the rectangle as the walls and arch the roof. Along side each is an animal figure. These could be clan totems, the fox lodge, boar lodge, etc

It would be exceedingly difficult to mount an argument that these representations held no significance for anyone at the time. So, how were they significant - - at the time?

The 'handbags' on the so called vulture stone represent sunrise for each annual solar event, winter solstice, spring equinox and summer solstice. The animals next to each were likely the animals most commonly seen in the region for each respective season. The half circle over the square is derived from the basic geometry used to lay out the four cardinal points. It's a simple process that only requires two sticks and a string as described in the Vedas. Three overlapping circles form the 'holy trinity' aka an equilateral triangle. Seven overlapping circles form the 'cosmic disk' aka the basis for the unit circle in which you have twelve thirty degree segments. Thus the reason for having twelve pillars. Perhaps if Archaeologist would spend a little time studying Mathematics and Astronomy, they would be less confused on such structures and there purpose.

I appreciate the theory and interpretation and acknowledgement that it's your best guess and that we don't have enough (almost certainly never will) information to know the meaning of art feom people who essentially (from life experience and world view) were a different species than us. We know hallucination drugs were prevelent in certain areas and how that affects the mind, spirituality, medicine, understanding of the world, nature and everything else... Yet it doesnt seem like many people even try to put themselves in the mindset and locations of our ancestors before making their interpretations of art or structures. Of course its not easy or even possible for many, but when Graham hancock goes to central America or S America, takes peyote and looks at ancient art, i think that interpretation is more relevant than anyone who looks at some photos on the computer. Not saying that's all you did, just in general. I'm sure if you went to an ancient site, did the drug(s) we expect them to have done, spent days under the stars and in that location (even though most are very different now) I'm sure you'd agree that you likely would have different interpretations of art and structures. Maybe not wildly different but it would change your perspective in a way that you would be looking at the world closer to how they saw it. Not saying humans used to be all drugged out but hopefully you get the point. And my guess is more typically the "elite" or most influential ones (shamans, rulers, etc) were likely using hallucinogens and sharing their views/understanding of life and spirituality As a whole, i wish more people looked at human history from a more holistic approach. What human life was like, spiritually, physically (climate and water levels 400' lower, huge animals to kill for food, etc), their way of life (survival vs thriving), their need to understand the stars and earth to improve their lives but knowing seasons and animal migrations etc.... humans were vastly different than we are now and we try to fit them into our box, or focusing on one site and arguing that interpretations of it explain how humans lived... and it's just not accurate, just a best guess from a completely disconnected human perspective. The most unfortunate thing of all is that so much of the more modern of ancient history that we can access (and not hundreds of feet deep in the ocean) is in the middle east where a certain religion wants to destroy everything that doesn't support their view, it's dangerous to travel and study and look for new sites, and that so much has already been looted/destroyed. Unless we keep looking, especially in amazon and under the sea, and china(? Rarely see/hear about archaeology sites in china), indus valley, we will remain looking at history with a limited set of data. Lastly, i think there should be a shift in mainstream narrative that in fact we now know our long standing story is now out of date and has been proven wrong repeatedly, and that's exciting not bothersome. I wish there was a way to "know" haha because I think it's so fascinating. A time machine would be great

In Assyrian wall reliefs from ancient Mesopotamia, the gods or figures often hold a basket-like object known as a “banduddu.” This object is typically depicted alongside a cone-shaped item called a “mullilu.” The banduddu is believed to be a bucket containing holy water, while the mullilu is thought to be a ritual tool used to sprinkle this water. These items were used in purification rituals and symbolize the act of cleansing, blessing and associated with the tree of life as depicted!

Is it beyond comprehension that humans all over the world might decide that a light weight hollow thing with loops on top for your hands to go through might be useful for carrying things? Is humans wanting to carry around more stuff than they can cup in their hands less likely than aliens or Atlantis?

Sir that is not the Egyptian motif that has the handbags. The Egyptian ones look just like the Mayan ones, Gobekli tepe and the Sumerians. And that's not all and they're all square with an arched handle. Some people say they are buckets which I disagree.

The hand bag is meant to carry salt. Once upon a time salt was more precious than gold and diamond.

It's not mobility of Ancient peoples,but, the presence of a world wide Domination Race/Peoples/ Civilization ,

Maybe they need something added to our air to stay alive

The idea that because disparate cultures all used bags or baskets with handles that must mean they are all somehow connected is absurd.

Every craftsman needs a bag for tools of the trade, three bags would suggest three crafts.

Intuition tells me what they were trying to convey was that the gods dumped water/the deluge...its depicting the deluge flood

My first guess was buildings. The little animals are suggestive.

I found an angel in Kentucky USA about four inches tall and it's holding a handbag

The hand baskets are seed exchange containers. Nothing was more valuable at that time than the variety and hybrid seeds.The need for grain seeds, crosses time and emerging agricultural cultures. (copyright 2023 Jerome A Cook) 9:28 "distinguish seeds" agriculture

I. Believe that people often sell the ancients short on their literate and numerate abilities. I believe the the ‘bags’ are weights, one being the weight of a man and the other the weight of a common animal, probably a horse. The carved illustrations do not need to be the size of a man or horse, as long as the weight is shown pictorially.

The handbags are bags of seeds delivered after an apocalypse

I found an angel it looks like about four inches tall and it's holding a handbag in Kentucky USA

I found an angel made of rock about four inches tall and she is holding a handbag found in Kentucky USA

It could mean a traveler…most possible local ppl who met global travelers got fascinated so to carve stones with them on

The bag and pine cone represent the seed of life/ gift of life. The pine cone is a representation of the Pineal Gland and whole thing represents assention to a higher being/consciousness. The winged beings are Anunnaki "gods" passing on the knowledge of such.

The 12 walled paths of 12 gates of 1st Eden, leading to the precinct and temple of the tree of life at the centre of the sanctuary.

The difference between the global bags and these, are these have an animal above each one, and to the same side of the handle..

the "animal" on the basket flat area is a headless human. My guess. The vulture holds a human head on it's wing. perhps the "basket" holds human heads. Perhaps the grain like pattern is a harvest and the three images, basket-grain- vulture (ball) are linked to ritual human sacrifice

the handbag means they are caring knowledge to give to the people .

Show the pillar with a bag in the left hand of a carving!! The bags contain pinecones or high tech that looked like pinecones.

As the ancient Mesopotamian story goes, Ninurta (the God of Agriculture and Science) descended from the Heavens to share his knowledge of cultivation with humans. These bags are possibly representative of knowledge. The elephant not in the room is the human head, but the globe represents a form of something the human head carries:- the totality of soul+intellect which gods can interact with at a higher realm while the material world shown below is cyclical - scorpion represents that - and human life goes on from generation to generation through reproduction, and is carried(protected) by another bird, which again is representative of a metaphysical being. These birds are the proto-forms of gods that evolved into many forms and shapes in following millennia through different cultures.

Does it really matter if the baskets/bags held by carved stone gods or leaders are absolutely identical to one another? The fact remains the sculptors across the world and at different times held these items important enough to carve them. My best guess they are representing the act of superior beings gifting different cultures with knowledge of one sort or another and this seems rather obvious.

Erm you should check for images again with regards to Egypt and them 'handbags' haha

BREATHING help?

the bags are symbolic of scales and measures for trade.

Fuckit, they're buckets!

They are kete(baskets) they are woven from harakeke(Flaxs) the icons are brids and insects.......the 3 kete of knowledge

They look like flamingos or other waterfowl. These are mostly zoomorphic carvings.

Looking at something and comparing it to something you know is not some sort of logical fallacy. It is a starting point for framing an idea and of course as humans we will look at other humans and relate to them.

I just think it’s proof believe in aliens have to accessorize. Wow, my intelligence is way over the top. mystery solved

The bags symbolize Noah’s 3 sons since their “bags” were the source of all humanity

Obviously they’re the local plugs……the cones are really ganja buds & the bags are their stash bags !………😉

they just went shopping

They are the huts of the town