Are Trans Beauty Pageants Breaking Stereotypes or Reinforcing Them? | Transnational 

"it's not a celebration of trans women and their unique beauty, it's a celebration of passing" oof that hit me hard

It's a beauty pageant. Might as well call it a stereotype contest, regardless.

facinating that the cosmetic industry from the medical side is investing in the pageants. seems obvious in hindsight but still interesting to find that connection out

They can have their own shows with their own display of talent. I dont think merging is needed

Grew up with family that participated in beauty pageants from the 60's thru the 80's. Mother was Miss Huntington Beach, older cousin was Miss California almost Miss America. The pressure on family split everything up. A generation of family that should have grown up and enjoyed each other's company building a community fractured because of mob mentality. That's what it feels like from my perspective. As long as pageants are an expression of creativity and social support for each other and not some contest to FIGHT each other over, then it is just humans doing something good. Kindness needs to win out.

a competition that rates plastic surgeons work :)

There's nothing wrong with people _wanting_ to express themselves with 'stereotypical' gender presentations, just as there's nothing wrong with going another way. It's only a problem when people are _forced_ to go one way, or victimized when they don't. Let people be free.

This seems like a competition/advertisement for plastic surgeons?

Christ, a doctor that doesn’t know how to properly wear a surgical mask! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Perfect. The fact that doctors judge this completion speaks volumes 😖

I mean... Just have separate beauty pageants specifically for Trans. That makes more sense than merging with biological women pageants.

why is every other VICE video about trans people? I swear to god everyone is completely obsessed with this issue.

God Thailand is the most based Asian country ever. Where can u smoke weed, drink beer, and look at a trans beauty pageant?

These girls inspire me to get skinny

It's fine. They are doing their own thing. No problems with that at all. Infact i hope they are successful and have fun.

They are beautiful

As a trans woman I try to be supportive but I don’t get the whole beauty pageant thing. Good on em for doing it live your truth and all but I think beauty pageants set back all women sis and trans.

One would think 8n other places of their world in trans communities They would want evolved from women competitive pageant. Mimicking what cis women go through is just ridiculous. Beauty is internal and external.. Humanity wants attention especially from each other. Very immature. More important things on earth to do in support of humanity

They're just having a good time. Leave them alone.

They are beautiful!!

Here come all the sensitive boys crying about “wokeness” 🙄

Reinforcing because I guarantee you, that the transwomen who allowed to participate, have to fit the "passability test". Beauty comes in all forms, and a transwoman shouldn't have to fit a mold to be considered beautiful.

I don’t care what people do, so long as they are honest with and do no harm to others.

Vice news used to bring us the best groundbreaking reports from active conflicts and now this is what we have. Holy smokes have they fallen out of touch.

happy to see this subject explored with the level of nuance it deserves!! thank you to Rana for the insightful coverage

I keep coming back to Vice News hoping that they do more in-depth reporting about things that matter like Ukraine, and Israel, but each time I'm sadly disappointed. What happened?

How long before they turn the comments off on this

This story is more to show bigotry still exists. Just read the comment section to see the people of this world still have an obsession about things that don’t affect them.

Don’t refer to natural women as cyst women I’m just a woman. You identify as trans women I call you as you address your gender. Don’t rename me 😤 and think it’s ok ITS NOT

I am a woman and I want to enter this space

Tans videos employee is back from vacation I guess

As a cis-gender woman, I went in drag to see the Barbie movie. It was my protest against women (whether trans or not) feeling compelled to appear in this way. As Rana Thamrin said, it leaves a person wondering if she needs to be changing her appearance radically, if she cannot be accepted as she is- as she is in her skin, in her nature. Appearances are all very well, but aren't we each a lot more complex than that? There was an eye-opening documentary some years ago about plastic surgery in Venezuela- how women's body images were being literally shaped and dictated by one man and his ideas about what they should all look like- and how even very poor women were getting breast enhancement surgery. This is not it, but similar- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VtddBzqe-vE.html

These are not women in any sense or by any standards they will never ever now what a real woman goes through...

"It's a celebration of passing...who can look and sound the most like a traditional cisgender beauty queen." Totally DISAGREE with that statement! If that was indeed the case, then the extremely feminine Thai candidates would have won the crown every year but apparently they are not always that competent in the Q & A portion. The eventual winner in the pageant featured here which is Miss Philippines is not even the most feminine in the group but she possessed the so-called "whole package" of beauty and brains equal ratio. Obviously this interviewer only mentioned that statement after her one obvious personal choice/bet didn't make it to the Top 3.

I remember when vice actually talked about important news and made amazing documentaries. Sad

I expected this channel to release videos about Israel-Gaza, which is by far the biggest news story of the month.

The former is correct no need for a whole video

5:23 The term "mermaid" is rather cute and enduraning.

Maybe both Also do reports on Bangladesh please

This makes more sense than them joining miss universe which is traditionally for natural born women. How can you push for transgender acceptance when you're already stepping the boundaries of nature. Fight for your rights, but don't say you are a woman coz you're not. But you are an amazing transgender woman and that's something to be proud of

Crazy world this. How many licenses does a multiple persinality person need, comparably?

I am a filmmaker student, in my own way and from my work, I am working and struggling on a project to help change these kind of social problems. I am from the same country as Javiera, and even that, myself as a man, struggle all the time finding people from the LGTB community to join my project. My point is, the world is like that, the only way to fulfill a change is creating something new; maybe judging these kind of events is not the proper way to find a solution, after all, most of them are "almost" honest, I mean they are always about beauty, that's the all point. If someone finds this must change then the solution is create a contest about something else, where beauty wwould be a minor factor.

Where is your coverage on the Israel Palestine conflict?!

Trans or not. It's bizarre. Not in a good or bad way. Just bizarre.

Vice news in 2023 is something else

A beauty pageant cant be the only platform for all the social equality that trans people are trying to achieve. A beauty pageant is about beauty, and gender dysphoria does need passing. But many pass in the normal world, to win, someone has to be a more pleasing to the eye.

Great interviewer.

A natural woman can enter this right? Like trans woman can participate in natural woman sports? 🤔

Sometimes they’re prettier than those born women.

Its not Cis Gender Woman, it's Woman

Not comparable nor should they be. Different foundations regardless of adding or subtracting.

And that is the answer loser will give. I bet you they won't think that way should they had won.

Miss Pinay slayed!

Omg this is like such a pressing question and we demand answers!!

I hate the scary background tense music when the patients are in the recovery room. I think you are just jealous of the girls who have had surgeries when actually you’re faking the way you sound when you speak

What a fascinating topic indeed! More power to the ladies featured here 👏🏽

Well done small documentary, will pass to all my trans friends. What a great point of you!

Awesome video.

Transformers... More than meets the Eye

I just want to say not all clinics like this I think the owner, surgeon can actually get a bigger premises more room. The recovery room is really not hygienic and doesn’t look safe to me. Anyway they seem to doing well.

Simplemente son otro tipo de Mujer, así lo declaró la Ciencia y, son hermosas seres Humanas.

Your conclusion was always something that was obvious honey, I apologise, but they chose to be there.

Beauty peagents are a result of basic human desire the feeling of being wanted and desired. Few questions and answers does not defines someone’s internal beauty. I can’t criticise it because I am also a human and I like being desired and attractive. But these pageants of any gender doesn’t define our true beauty. These contest only makes less attractive people more insecure. A day will come the technology like DNA modification and designer baby will make all people externally beautiful, especially the one who can afford it.

"It's a celebration of passing-who can look and sound the most like a traditional cisgender beauty queen." That sounded like an insult to all transwomen

I feel Transgenders should have their own pageants.

How about we just stop overthinking everything and just let people do whatever the fuck they want

The fact that we get free videos from VICE News on RU-vid is priceless, keeping the education and knowledge alive. 🙏🙏🙏

Dudes in dresses would be a better title.

But they still never be a real woman 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

"News"

Not a single one of them will ever be a true woman lmao

Definitely reinforcing stereotypes.

Beautifully done. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I wish I can understand what leads a man to this.

Can you do a video on hypohydrosis

0:42 if you want people to listen to anything your hauking yes it is lol

Thanks for sharing!

Wow I loved this video! I'm so glad that trans pageants are getting more attention. I've been watching The Miss International Queen pageant for a while now and I plan on competing in 2025!

Honey, the Gworls are GIVING BEAUTY QUEENS YAAAASSS!!!!

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The vice propaganda machine continues...

Can Cis women join?

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Bro 😂

Let me clarify, i do not hate. That's your perspective and feelings of your creation. Yes, i could hate, but that's a choice, and there's more like love, compassion and empathy too. In growing up was taught religion of Christ, and in no eay Jesus never hated anyone throughout the years he was on Earth. God considers these lifestyles choices a sin, a given example is, Sodom and Gomorrah, in those cities had wickedness, but God was going to destroy, prior which is very important he sent two Angles in, but God didn't immediately destroy, he warn, and if you realize you are the one that hate, perhaps frim your personal experiences and your projecting your hate up us. Only hate i have is what if your wrong, and we are warning your pending doom? Personal choices have its own individual accountability. If its considered a sin, and I'm trying to warn it is the concern of the soul which when the body is finite the soul, consciousness is eternal. Trans person, even when you try to erase the outside the internal is hardwired including the dna, we cannot change the xx, and xy.

Thank you for this video. I see awesome trans people in everyday life & celebrate their being a part of everything. They don’t look like these beauty pageant queens but in the cisgender world of pageants, the same is true. I celebrate all our uniqueness.

God is watching

Like box of candy you don't know which one have coconut and how big it is.

I support lgbtq+

We should have the next pageant in Gaza!! To show the acceptance and support both groups! We can start it is a fundraiser!!

This crap should be illegal totally🤢🤮

They are not women Women are nurturing Men are not

Neither

Why are trans men not celebrated?

Cosplay

Nothing natural I guess. Such a waste

I THINK that that's is just sou Wrong in all ways

it's fluff like straight miss competitions, with that extra layer of dark pattaya veneer

Transwoman are the best ❤

They just copied the concept from the Philippines. Our trans pageantry is way way back