Are Vertical Monitors Worth it for Programming?

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@DebugCall 2 года назад

To use in a better way your monitors you can use Rectangle, I have two 27" 4k monitors (one vertical, one horizontal), a window manager help a lot.

@sufi_masood 2 года назад

Cool , loved your big monitor , I usually prefer using laptop monitor along with my extended monitor , but having big screen like this will definitely help me

@imays76 Год назад

I use four monitors, and two out of them are vertical. They are especially useful when I am into debugging multiple programs, in which two vertical monitors show me several debugger views.

@vojtaborsky Год назад

perfect video, thanks! Keep up the good work

@tasarm4939 2 года назад

SHORT ANSWER : NO

@raviboyapati9814 Год назад

That helps. Thanks 🙏

@donghoonbae6660 Год назад

thank you for saving my time🎉

@alohamikan Год назад

Guy gave his answer in the first 20 seconds nt 😂

@travro2525 7 месяцев назад

@@alohamikan Yeah but you forget we programmers are lazy

@kodekata Месяц назад

There is a principle that the answer to the question in a headline is, in fact, always "no."

@conorhoward10 2 года назад

I used a vertical monitor to the side in my previous job but it wasn’t one I actively used much. I would have all my monitoring tools open on it so I could check system health at a quick glance. The vertical orientation worked best here as it saved space on the desk and it was easier to look up/down rather than left/right.

@castcrus 2 года назад

exactly, I found I only use my vertical monitor for checking mining status, gpu temp, fan speed etc, while I code. or use it to control music playback

@ok-ni4lc 2 года назад

@@castcrus you mine while coding? 🧐

@Isaac-eh6uu 2 года назад

@@ok-ni4lc Some people are crazy 😭

@edouard_iosdev 2 года назад

Definitely something I want to try at some point. Next move in 1 month, finally the opportunity to setup my desk from scratch :)

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Nice opportunity to try new things. Looking forward to see what will you think about vertical screen

@tobiasfuchs2502 2 года назад

Thanks for this video!

@Dreron 2 года назад

It depends on how you work. Say you're viewing a video tutorial. Video at the top with a chunk of comments you might be interested in below it, note taking at the bottom, and IDE the tutorial is about on the main monitor. If you're a fast reader, you tend to read rather than watch learning material, and for reading vertical is hard to beat.

@CharlyDS 2 года назад

Thanks your video helped a lot. I'm a programmer too. I'm changing my two 24" side-by-side monitors setup for a 29" WideScreen and as I'm keeping one of the 24" monitors, considering setting the 24" as vertical. But stacked makes more sense now.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Yeah, stacked monitors feel more productive for me. Definitely worth a trying

@zone07 7 месяцев назад

Four 24" monitors; Two stack on each other horizontally; one on the left horizontal next to bottom one that's stacked. One on the right vertically: Three horizontals great for video editing; center for workspace, top for continues preview, and left for editing tools. Right vertical for reading documents, coding, webpages and social media. The setup greatly improved my workflow.

@TomerBenDavid 2 года назад

One file with hundreds or thousands amount of code lines is perfectly fine in the past it was told that every file should have a limited number of line but what's more important is the organization of the single file and not how to split it multiple files it can also be organized in a single file and it also has its benefits

@littlearvin1641 2 года назад

Thank you a ton for the insight! :)

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@richardalbury 2 года назад

I agree: I tried using a second vertical HD display for documentation and Slack, and it was okay but not worth the fuss. I recently moved (ascended?) from a 27” iMac to a 34” ultrawide, and while I *really* miss the visual quality of the Retina display, I also *really* like a wider display and will probably move up to a 49” at some point. For documentation, I tend to use an iPad about half the time: easier to read and rotate, portable, etc. Really enjoying your videos, BTW, thanks!

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Thanks for feedback, Richard! I hope to see more affordable monitor from the Apple someday . 6K is way too expensive for my budget, until then I will try to stick with 49" + 4K

@richardalbury 2 года назад

@@AivarsMeijers Quite honestly, I won’t be happy until I can get something on the order of 10240x2880, or two Retina iMac screens side by side. 😂🤣 Hopefully, the rumored new iMac Pro will at least be a 6K Retina screen.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

@@richardalbury that would be must have 🤞😅💸

@raianmr2843 10 месяцев назад

Looks like it makes sense to just get a wider monitor instead if you don't already have one. Thanks for the insightful video.

@martinchou1 2 года назад

i had same experience with my second 22" 1080p vertical monitor

@qichang4485 Год назад

I think the verticle monitor works especially when you need to read some papers or need to reproduce from the research papers.

@neomage2021 7 месяцев назад

I use my vertical monitor split in half for slack and terminal. Main monitor IDE on left side and right side between docker or mobile/web view depending if I'm doing back end or front end work

@rockking1379 2 года назад

I have three monitors on my desk. Two vertical and the center is landscape. All 1080p. I’ve noticed two things from the setup. 1) anything on the vertical monitors that is below the bottom edge of the landscape one, I ignore. 2) I favor the left vertical over the right one but still keep most of what I’m doing on the center landscape one.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Guess that if I didn't have ultra-wide monitor that vertical monitor experiment could have different results. One more monitor next to 49" felt weird :)

@ShameerMohammed Год назад

Thumbs up for not dragging the topic

@bitcoinjc 3 месяца назад

Great video bro. Thanks

@AivarsMeijers 3 месяца назад

Glad you liked it

@Thryce23 2 года назад

You touched on an interesting topic; what is your main trigger for a code refactor? Is it generally the line count or more so when a single file starts to cover more than one purpose? I generally try to group my files by a specific purpose or concern, but I've got one or two on my current project that are approaching 900+ lines.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

I'm looking more into logical structure and not lines of code, but generally I tire to have: - one class per file - if class has more than 10 methods, most likely it is too big - if method doesn't fit two screens (100+ lines) something is wrong with it

@totheknee Год назад

It should be based on how hard it is to maintain. Don't worry about line count. If you use object oriented techniques, your code will be harder to maintain and understand. Don't worry about line count. If you use design patterns, your code will bloat and be harder to maintain. Don't worry about line count. Worry about modern "engineering" fads that are destroying software.

@thenightstreamer4702 10 месяцев назад

what size do most people use for vertical monitors? I haven't seen a 32 inch yet

@freefaler Год назад

I think vertical works great for programming, because when you read a long function the space you need to see the whole function can help you out with comprehension a lot. Also reading documentation on a big screen helps that you can see the definition and help at the same monitor and not goo to a wide one. Reading science papers that are formated for A4/letter is also much easier when you have enough vertical resolution. I'd love to buy a 6000 x 3000 px resolution monitor, but alas nothing like that is available.

@bren.r Год назад

If you're reading a long function, you probably should look for a better dev team to work with 😂

@Jdb63 Год назад

@@bren.r Damn 😂

@GreatTaiwan Месяц назад

@@bren.r not really always an option also it depends on the language a 300 line python module is not really that acceptable compared to java class file or even C file

@michaeld663 2 года назад

I added a vertical monitor and I only really use it for css or reading stuff lol.

@AndrewHelgeCox Год назад

4k, 32" monitor in vertical would have enough physical space and pixels to let your xcode example be side-by-side, while still giving you the long column to scroll through (other people's) code in need of refactoring.

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

If or when I will get Apple Studio Display I will consider turning my 32" 4k vertically. Not a bad idea

@OmronOmicron Год назад

your accent makes me want to watch the whole video on 0.5 playback speed. Good video!

@Okir09 2 года назад

thanks for the video, what mount/stand do you use at the end of the video to had the monitor on top of your ultrawide ? thanks a bunch !

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

I just found extra long monitor arm on Amazon. That's nonane, can't find it anymore on site

@kerisek11 Год назад

Xcode is one thing, but in html/css/javascript you can have live preview on vertical monitor :)

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

Yeah, valid point. iPhone simulator do not need so much space

@b25671 10 месяцев назад

I just set up my 2 16:9 monitors in a 1vertical 1horizontal setup. ... it's not about reading more code vertically ... it's about not creating a whiplash having these 2 monitors in a horizontal setup (which I've had for +10 years). ... and so reducing horizontal movement of your head and eyes. I'm glad I've discovered the 1v + 1h ... now I finally have a center screen again. Of course... a 1x 21:9 or wider monitor is probably better ... but at the moment don't want to pay for one. Also the use of fancy-zones is crucial to me ... I've got many overlapping zones derived from the default 16:9 and 4:3 ratio's. ... very handy Thanks for the video!

@AivarsMeijers 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback! At the end of thew day we should find what works for us, seems that you figured out what is your perfect setup 👍

@b25671 10 месяцев назад

@@AivarsMeijersYes Sir!

@lindashrewsbury6091 2 года назад

What do you use to see your work on the Iphone while your working on it? Is it advailible on VS code? Thank you for the videos.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

I'm using my code as test device for Xcode and launch my apps on it

@John_thetrader Год назад

LG DUAL UP ... or 32 4K ... are good to use as extra

@ClaudioBOsorio 2 года назад

and don't forget the viewing angles of most monitors in vertical sucks really bad. I have to agree horizontal is the way to go. The exceptions don't make the rule

@opassas_ 2 месяца назад

4k Horizontal => More code & small letters Vertical -> More code & good size letters (here you wanna take in consideration if you program long extended lines of code + editor conf. bc scroll left and right is fatige if you do not have a proper mouse)

@shawchung9668 Год назад

At the end of the video, you put the monitor on top of the ultrawide monitor, may i ask which monitor arm are you using to achieve that?

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

I found arm with extra long pool, but I don't have a link to it anymore.

@decky1990 Год назад

Why would you want landscape video on a portrait monitor? It’s for text and reading code, ideally something you want to reference while doing something else

@VikramBankar 6 месяцев назад

In your situation the monitor does not make sense because you also need to see the rendered app on the screen but for people who work in bacend developement this wouldnt be a problem and 1.5x or 2x the amount of lines would minimize a lot of scrolling.

@oOrbitZz 2 года назад

I also agree. I mean having long lines of code for a single function is not good as well. So no point.

@tommytexter4054 8 месяцев назад

The problem is if u use 16-9 monitor vertically as 9-16, it will be too tall. The LG dual up is actually pretty good. 16-18 is much better.

@mrcrackerist 2 года назад

I do have one vertical monitor(on the side) and two horizontal monitors (stacked) What I use the vertical monitor for pdf, manpages, discord, spotify and general reading.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Sounds reasonable use case for 3rd monitor. Three stacked would look funny tho 😂

@mrcrackerist 2 года назад

@@AivarsMeijers Two stacked one on the side ;)

@lethargic_cow Год назад

Wow didn't recognize you without the beard haha

@FrancescoGadaleta 10 месяцев назад

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@AivarsMeijers 10 месяцев назад

Thanks! I made them. It was a merch drop.

@Stratijev 2 года назад

Can you please enable subtitles for your videos. I guess I am not only with hearing problems. Thanks.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Hi Darko! Captions are not disabled, RU-vid sometimes do not add them. Automatic captions are added by voice recognition, sometimes they just do not appear 🤷‍♂️ Currently I can't afford to hire someone to do professional captions. Hoping that my pronunciation or Google's speech recognition engine will improve and all the videos will get auto generated captions.

@BONZERPHOBIA13 Год назад

what mounts did you issue for the ultrawide and vertical monitors?

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

Here is hte video about them, you will find links in description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BWoYRF0G7kQ.html

@josealberto8270 2 года назад

Hey brother, I saw your app development video with a mac from 2013 out there, do you think you can update the video and which mac do you recommend in 2022?

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Nope, not for serious work. That will be ok to just to start learning swift

@josealberto8270 2 года назад

@@AivarsMeijers ah okay

@Mirislomovmirjalol 2 года назад

I have 27 inch 4k monitor but I can't set it 4k because when I choose option 4k everything will be smallest can you help me please 😫

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

That's hows calling in macOS works. All the UI become smaller. When I used 4K as main screen I increased font size in Xcode and that was enough for me. Now I have it in the middle of the resolution scale to use comfortably as a secondary monitor.

@thomasipad7719 2 года назад

Simple answer: YES!

@forsaken7161 Год назад

i think its worth it for reading and googling. having your code and everything on one screen feels crowded and in my opinion a larger screen wont resolve this issue.

@ysupriyadi123 Год назад

I see your main monitor has 110ppi. Is the text fine, not blurry cause you are using Macbook?

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

Sure 27" 5K is better, but 4K 32" is fine until you have it next to the apple studio display. I compared them in this video, check out for details: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7DkUp5mokTY.html

@darkrift1495 Год назад

What is the name of the text editor with the app?

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

I'm switching between VSCode and Xcode in this video

@lucasmarrero1014 2 года назад

what do you use your iPad for?

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

here is video about that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PyGQYrYfFuE.html

@biggestthreattoyourexistence Год назад

Yes 100%

@brooker2627 2 года назад

Benq gw2780 , dell s2721hn or ASUS VA27EHE for coding??

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

I'm looking for 4K monitors only and frankly can say which 1080p from them is better

@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 2 года назад

I would like a 1:1 2160p 120hz monitor to exist and use it for coding just because hahaha

@AndrewHelgeCox Год назад

there is an 8:9 ergo monitor from LG now which is close. They call it 16:18 :shrug:.

Год назад

I had bought 32” 4K monitor 2 years ago. Honestly, I prefer dual monitor setup to one 4K monitor. On the other hand, working with two monitors on Mac is not as good as working with two monitors on Windows. There are so many tradeoffs. And I only use MacbookPro’s 16” screen for 3 months. I think I’m happier. But I’m still investigating dual-monitor setup. Thanks for this informative video!

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

I received my Apple Studio display a few days ago and love it. Highly recommend considering getting that one for monitor + 16" screen setup

Год назад

@@AivarsMeijers thx for sharing your new experience!

@clearance93 2 года назад

can I know your monitor brand and model?

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Currently I have 49" dell and 32" 4K Samsung m7

@t0dd000 Год назад

Vertical monitor: I use it for writing (i.e. documents). For programming ... sometimes.

@antdx316 8 месяцев назад

The Samsung G9 that just came out is 8k 240Hz at 57".

@AivarsMeijers 8 месяцев назад

I would like to have it as a gaming monitor, but price hurts for gaming jut once in a while

@antdx316 8 месяцев назад

@@AivarsMeijers I have it and it's awesome. It just can't do 8k 240Hz even on a 4090.

@dhavald4359 2 года назад

why aren't there high res 4:3 monitors?

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

it seems that industy leaving 4:3 aspect ration behind and new standard is 16:9

@AndrewHelgeCox Год назад

There are some 3:2 (e.g. from Huawei) and now an 8:9 from LG. You could pull a 4:3 retina panel out of an iPad3 or later and buy a hdmi driver board for it from China and have a very tiny 4:3 high res monitor.

@christianplacencia7424 Год назад

How big is your desk ?

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

240x60 cm and 140x80 cm I have two desks now

@paulancajima 2 года назад

Same setup as me except I only have 34 on the bottom.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

39" is nice, but takes a loot of place on the desk

@VineethThungani Год назад

What's is name of monitor and it's size

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

Vertical monitor was 24" 4K LG. Mode name dosen't really matter as I bought it about 6 years ago

@VineethThungani Год назад

@@AivarsMeijers ya, I was asking about that ultra wide big monitor.

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

@@VineethThungani ah. that is 49" Dell. It has 5120x1440 resolution and it is 120cm wide. I sold it after using for about two years and switched to Apple Studio Display

@cloudsss83 2 месяца назад

it is hard to consider what someone's wearing a firebase t-shirt is saying lol

@AivarsMeijers 2 месяца назад

What shirt do you wear when recording YT videos or presenting something to an audience? I need more tips.

@user-fn7oy6yj4w 2 года назад

How to become an iOS developer? I am currently developing websites, but I want to develop applications

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

learn Swift + SwiftUI and you are ready to go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@arnavodkaa 2 года назад

Me on my 13 inch MacBook Air: 👁👄👁

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

I started freelancing on 13" Air as well. Check out my 2016 setup in the thumbnail of this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HufAjCPs8r8.html

@iblackfeathers 2 года назад

in your case they need to make a taller ultra wide monitor with better text resolution. maybe in the future they will make it. adding more monitors look like a workaround no matter how it's arranged.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Yep, that's very true. 49" resolution is not perfect and one more 4K monitor is just a workaround

@PaulSebastianM 2 года назад

5k2k exists!!!

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Yes, you are right. Unfortunately I can't change that in video.

@ratulsaha9487 Год назад

Bruh if I have that wide of a monitor I will already have issue with making out shit written on the far ends. A vertical one will be so damn useless.

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

Valid point

@pitbull8967 4 дня назад

Definitely worth it having a vertical monitor. I totally disagree with your perspective. Do whatever suits you guys, don’t let anyone tells you if something’s worth it or not. Not everyone suits their needs and preferences.

@AmitKumar-fn7jl 2 года назад

Same for me vertical is not much help 👎

@daniil3815 2 года назад

Privet bro

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Zdarova :)

@TitoHopia 10 месяцев назад

if you have a 49 inch monitor lol definitely not needed 😭

@vingr Год назад

As a coder if you make mistake after this level of setup , then you are not a coder . You are copy pasting.

@AivarsMeijers Год назад

you are delusional if expect that there are programmers who do not make mistakes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@wwloyd 8 месяцев назад

@vingr this much salt is not good for your health

@tameen3907 2 года назад

his main monitor probability costs more than your kidneys, so for more most people having a secondary monitor vertical or not is the best unless you're rich. then go for it.

@AivarsMeijers 2 года назад

Yeh, that was pricey one. Now I switched to the smaller monitor and still have to say that not happy using vertical monitor even have one next to the main screen now.