Are we playing House of the Rising Sun WRONG?! 

It is a good one for sure.

Vox continental-------------------------- not a Hammond---------

Yeah, it’s a Vox. Such a great solo.

@@crazypainter56 well, he did say he wasn't an fxxxxxg keyboard player...

I believe he now owns the rights to the song after it entered public domain

It worked for him, so if it works for you, I think that's just fine :)

That's the way I naturally played it too.

Me to it must be a self taught thing

Interesting, I was never taught how to play it, I just leaned it from ear & I too play it the same as almost everyone does, but I do find it hard to keep going through the entire song, so I switch to strumming the chords part the way through, which adds to building the intensity of the song as it progresses and to my ear it adds some more variety & interest to the song as well. :)

I think that means you have a good ear. 🎸

It works for sure, just different. But if it sounds good, why not?

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver I think he must have done it for a reason :)

@@SamHarrisonMusic I suspect it's just the way he was taught to play, using alternate picking. Also I think it helps with the timing - if you play those three notes all upwards there's a temptation to play them too quickly as a mini-strum like the three downward notes before.

if you listen closer you'll hear him use a open G-string on the 'reverse part' of the patern to change chords as well. Something a lot of people miss out on.

@@boldwinbeanbaker3033 True he does, I think to make the chord switches smoothly. It is a great sounding technique. I think we all do it to some degree. I made a video about it some time ago ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sZAQvSuNQdQ.html

Good point, he is lifting his left hand off the chord early. It does make the transitions easier. I made a video about that technique some time ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sZAQvSuNQdQ.html

I was just trying to play it and hit on the same idea to go from the Am to the C - you need to lift the third finger to get in position for the C. Then I listened to it and realised you can hear that's what he's doing on the record. The G note is in the C chord so it makes a good passing note for that chord change.

Precisely. It's the WHOLE POINT of the guitar part.

I KNEW I HEARD THIS WHILE PLAYING IT

@jacobcollectscards7964 Nice, good ear 👍

Very cool story! Thanks for sharing that here. That's amazing you played at a pub with him once. I have heard about other guitar players turning their backs on stage. Eddie Van Halen used to do that in the early years of his career too.

Excellent point and he was turning his back for a different reason than I was ... Mine was Bad technique ...

@@davidcarpenter5274 So you were the Stu Sutcliffe of your band. :)

Loud and obnoxious ,,, Is what I do best ... Perfect for the mic check ... If you can fix my sound ,,, you've got a perfect mix ...

Strange you should mention All My Lovein' The guitar solo is short but very catchy. I have my own approximation which might fool a fool. I'll bet there's a tutorial for that too on here somewhere.

I noticed this too!

Yup. I noticed that when I first started playing guitar. This teacher is clueless

Cool! Would have been great to see them live

I'm guessing you are referring to the surreal and brilliant Lindsay Anderson film 'O Lucky Man!' that starred Malcolm McDowell and that Alan Price also appeared in and wrote the music for. There is not surprisingly a song on the soundtrack written by Price also called 'O Lucky Man!'. The music in 'O Lucky Man!' is performed by the musicians appearing within the story in a format often called a 'Greek chorus' and not as background music, unseen, or as the main focus of the film, as in a musical. I think the film is a bit overlooked because it is quite long and it contains a few scenes that are probably now considered unacceptable (particularly Arthur Lowe using blackface for his role as Dr. Munda).

Great story! I've heard some wonderful stories about him from doing this video. Thanks for sharing 😀

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver You're very welcome. That CD is still at my grandmother's house- it was my most prized possession as a teenager.

I also bought an Animals CD from Hilton online, which he signed for me with a silver marker. Silver on black looks very cool. The cd sits prominently in my CD collection and I feel very fortunate to own it. Now that Hilton has passed away, he won't be able to do so for anybody down here on Earth. He was such an interesting guy. I absolutely adore The Animals.

@@MsPulpGirl Same. I discovered them as a teenager and spent hours on rainy weekends listening to their Best Of album. I'm hoping to get Hilton's CD back after a fallout with the family. I hope they didn't toss it. :/

@@maurine2524 I hope you get it back and I wish for you and your family the best. 🙂

Yeah, I think with this song in particular there are a few good ways to play it. As long as it sounds good and is somewhat efficient, I think go for it.

Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!

Interesting, I have played through those books, though a long time ago.

Yea, what a memory those books without tabs and hours spent to figure out the notes!

@@Cyberglad haha yeah I've been there 😅

And of course, if it is written... One should be careful not to put too much stock into these kinds of arguments. It is self-evidently true that sweeping upward is less efficient than sweeping downwards, but it is also self-evidently true that alterating picking direction at the same time that the overall trajectory is upwards is less efficiently than continuously moving in the direction that the notes are moving. Either way, the hand must ultimately get back to the top, and moving in a continuously upward direction is a more direct way to do it than going out of your way on every second note. The shortest possible distance between two points is a straight line. The energy saved by allowing the weight of the arm to reinforce every second note is offset by having to reverse direction and avoid that string, then move twice as far to hit the next string. It is also unquestionably slower. Of course, where efficiency is concerned, any pick-based solution is less efficient than using ones fingers, where one does not even need to move the hand or the arm (large body structures), but only the (small) fingers, which can be set to their own strings (I don't necessarily mean to say that this is better, only that it is more efficient - this is not necessarily the same thing).

It is a great sounding technique. I think we all do it to some degree. I made s video about it some time ago ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sZAQvSuNQdQ.html

Makes sense definitely more than one way to play it 😀

All good, if it worked for Hilton Valentine...😎

Cool. Do you still have the 45rpm? 😀

And I still can't play keyboards - of any sort!

If you like it, fair enough. I reckon the Vox spoils it, but the other 4 parts make it still worth listening to.

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Me too... doubling the bass note sounds more natural. As a finger picker, i also play the third string two times often (like 4-3-2-3-1-2-3)

@@DouglasB42 Yeah, I play it finger picking style myself as well, and then it's probably even more obvious that the 'double bass' approach is the way to go.

Good point. It could feel more controlled by doing alternate picking on that part. Thanks for watching!

Cool glad it helped!

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Couldn't agree more. Self taught, wish we had you around 60 yrs ago! From Manchester.

@@taipo101 Thank you Howard!!

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver err sorry...that would make you 60 years older... Great stuff, a good instructor (not teacher please note) is what is required these days to get ppl thinking for themselves. Teaching is merely a rote method to pass exams. Being instructed allows us to use skill acquired to another level, then pss that on to the next generation.

Thank you!!

Yeah man ! , love that solo ! :)))))))))))

It really followed the solo in my opinion

Thanks I love that guitar. Made in Japan Power Jet.

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Thanks for watching! Yeah his name is not that well known unfortunately.

The Animals: Eric Burdon (vocals), Hilton Valentine (guitar), Chas Chandler (bass), Alan Price (keyboards) and John Steel (drums). A few years later Chas Chandler went on to be Jimi Hendrix's manager. Chas and Hilton are sadly no longer with us but the other three are still going in their 80s!

That's cool, if it works for you, go for it.

I did hear that when listening to it slowed down. He is lifting his left hand off the chord early. It does make the transition easy. I made a video about that technique some time ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sZAQvSuNQdQ.html

⁠I watched your video and I, too, have cheated at strumming for a long time but I guess I was too concrete in my thinking to think that it was acceptable while playing individual notes. However, another video recently pointed out this cheat and it definitely works in this case.

Ive heard that called that an ‘escape’ note. Enjoyed this video.

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That's cool! I didn't know that about him.

​@@GuitarLessonsVancouverI play it the way valentine does. I didn't even think about it until I saw this video. It feels natural to me ( perhaps the only reason to do anything)

@@toddapplegate3988 That's cool. It certainly worked well for him too :)

@@toddapplegate3988 It's natural for me also. When I watched this video I paid attention on how I'm playing. And was Valentine's style.

I went to same school as Hilton. he was 2 years older than me. he taught me 3 chords before I got my 1st guitar. he was only kid in the area with a guitar, but if he trusted you, he would help you to learn using his guitar. Sadly lost touch after leaving school and he was playing in a local band called the Wildcats,c.1960

Cool thanks that's good to know!

It was shot on 35mm color film. Now, this was a movie production which means one camera and multiple takes. So the sound will be a playback for each take. It could not be done live with one camera. @@GuitarLessonsVancouver

Interesting thought. Not sure it's that different in sound, but there is a subtle difference here.

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver When I was learning Holy Wars solo by Marty Friedman I sweep picked it all at first and it did not sound right. Then I alternate picked the descending part of the arpeggio and that was it. He did the same thing as Hilton Valentine here. These little details often make difference in our perception. You def have more control over the tone when with alternate picking and the notes feel more separated.

@@kkarx As a violin player, I was thinking "up bow" - "down bow" and how that affects the sound. Up pick, down pick, up pick creates a tad more separation and attack on the notes. A subtle but noticeable slight emphasis on on beat 5.

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver alternate picking helps add a bit of a swing feel which sounds better to me. but I tend to fingerpick it these days anyway to give it my own twist

@@chrisc9755 yeah fingerpicking works too 😀

Cool! yeah if you are used to playing it that way, no reason to change now. It worked for Hilton Valentine I'm sure it can work for you :) Thanks for watching!

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Reminds me of what The Ventures did with the song

@@garysutherland8327 Oh yeah, I hadn't thought of that. I'll have a listen to that version again. Been a while

I think you're right. I bet if we listen closely to each measure of the song, probably no one plays it perfectly all the way through. As long as you keep it going and the mistakes a minimal 👍

I agree it will have a slightly different sound or "feel" with different directions. Down strokes tend to be louder.

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Lots of ways to do it. As long as it sounds good 😀

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Cool good example. I'll take a closer look at it. Been a while since I've played that song.

No need to change it. It worked for him 😀

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Cool, welcome to the channel!

Thanks! That's interesting to hear you play it the same way he did. Whatever works in this case I say.

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Thank you! Much appreciated 👍

Thanks for watching! Glad I could help :)

Great! Welcome to the channel 😀

Cool thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks for watching 🎸

Could be he is sort up strumming through the E chord to get through all six. Thanks for posting, I'll have a listen 😎

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Cool thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

That makes sense. That's a good way to think of it.

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Cool thanks! Welcome aboard!

Much appreciated

Cool thank for watching

Thank you! Gretsch Jet through the UA Dream 65.

Interesting. For sure we all tend to play neck horizontal these days.

Thanks for posting. Good point. I love that story about taking a bus to learn B7.

Haha oh yeah its a temperate rainforest here. Except summer. Summers are wonderful here.

Seems like lots of people do based on the comments here. Well if it worked for him... why not? He was sure good at it 😀

If you're playing a different picking pattern but the correct notes and rhythm, it might not matter. Certainly there are multiple ways to play it, so long as it sounds good 😎

Interesting! I've never played the lute, but certainly different traditions of music have different trends in technique. As long asbit sounds good I'm all for it.

I checked the comments just to see if anyone else had noticed that. I have been playing it that way since I sat down to learn it for a band in 1989.

Nice! Thanks for commenting 🙂

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In a way yeah, though A Harmonic Minor or does not have a D major chord, but your point taken there are so many ways to stretch the harmony of a song. Thanks for watching and commenting 😀

That's a good point. That could be. Thanks for watching

Cool, thanks. Yeah there are certainly a few good ways to do it :)

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Glad you enjoyed it thanks!

That makes a lot of sense too. I like that method. Very similar to what I do.

Yeah it does! I think it's that melody in minor.

Thank you too!

Thanks for the great feedback. I really appreciate that 😀

That's ok. Fingerstyle still sounds good for the song 😀

Probably. There are many ways to play a song well.

@@GuitarLessonsVancouver Totally and that's what I'm saying and you did say that in the video - he didn't have the internets in 1963 either ... LOL - we all are aware of efficiency now but teacher to teacher back in the day was another component - (different shapes and approaches being passed on).. - cheers friend good clear video on the topic. Eric Burdon ditched his band quite frequently - I wonder if Valentine was the guitarist on Don't Bring Me Down with that killer fuzz line

That makes sense. And if it worked for him, why not? Thanks for watching :)

Haha yeah it's cool sounding guitar for sure 😄

Yeah sounds so good in this song 😀

Haha yeah it's like that. Summer is great here but the rest is rain rain rain.

Cool, thanks. Yeah I love that Frijid Pink version too. Thanks for watching!