Are you using the right SNARE BATTER HEAD?

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German producer Kristian Kohle (Powerwolf, Aborted, Hämatom, Eskimo Callboy, Van Canto, Sinister) shows you the difference between thin / resonant and thick / dampened sounding snare batter heads!
What's the difference and how does it sound recorded?
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@Moka8 3 года назад

I love the Ambassador because it's very dynamic depending on playing style and dampening. I also think the extra high end helps the snare cut through the mix better.

@zacharycole7519 2 года назад

I am personally a big fan of the dots found on controls sound dots or even the heavyweight, because the centre becomes super focused but I can play nice fuzzy ghosts notes by moving just off the dot

@effervescentsoliloquoy914 3 года назад

Remo Ambassador has always been my go-to snare batter head and are generally the most popular with my friends too. They are particularly good for black and thrash metal due to their sharp attack. I also find their longevity to be quick surprising. (They're also really popular because they usually come free with pro packs of Remo Emperor Tom heads which are also very good for black and thrash metal).

@DaPhunk73 2 года назад

I am not a metalhead, but your videos on drums and drum recording are really some of the very best I've seen. Really useful tips, and of course the sounds and examples you are getting are really top notch. Thanks a lot, keep up the good work!

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Thanks man! Spread the word!

@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 года назад

All of your videos are super awesome and super educational🔥🔥🔥

@hillie47 2 года назад

Your reasoning about place in the mix really puts things in place, thank you.

@CloudburstStudio 3 года назад

Would love to see more educational videos on drums due to the fact that I have very little knowledge on the subject haha. Thanks for all the vids Kristian you’ve easily become one of my favorite channels to watch!

@CrushingAxes 3 года назад

Cool video Kohle. Had no idea at all it would make such a huge difference!

@adamstrachn 3 года назад

Fascinating video Kristian. I liked the Hydraulic before the Ambassador with the dampening. Still has the high attack & just enough ring for me. Thanks brother 🖖🏼

@TIRABATERA 2 года назад

Awesome video, thank you!!

@chiefindisguise 3 года назад

What i took away from this video is ALWAYS take in consideration the OVERALL picture of the production, that's why pre production is so important it makes you think of all of this options before the actual recording. I tend to not like overly bright sounds on their own, but i i'm internalizing what Kohle said, in the acumulation of sounds your going to need those highs (and equally important, the sustain) in order for them to cut through and impact. All of this reminds me of soloing a track while you are mixing, it decontextualizes the "sum of it's parts" that is music. Sorry for the long analitic comment, my grandfather is german i can't help it.😉

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Haha! But you're right. You need more "ring" and "highs" in context than most people think.

@dpiselli 3 года назад

Thanks for this! You inspired me to pick up the SE V7 for my snare, and I’ve never looked back. Sounds amazing.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Oh yeah, it's awesome!

@officialkaifeck 3 года назад

We are really going to test this on our next album. Really good video! Thanks Kohle!

@morrinsville23 Год назад

Really great video thanks!!

@MarcosCerutti 3 года назад

Very nice man! Thanks a lot!

@bestevaer1977 3 года назад

Nice, i just got a whole bunch of heads to check this out myself!

@jasoncrump1886 3 года назад

Appreciate all the info brother man.

@oozede9035 3 года назад

Great video, again! It really helped me alot! I think I'll keep my heavyweights for now.

@sinonm1 2 года назад

Thank you for creating such great content. As a drummer and guitarist, I find your content invaluable.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Thanks man! Stay tuned for my academy in October!

@sinonm1 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult will do!

@davidfuller581 3 года назад

I'm big on the Evans Reverse Dot. Lots like the ambassador but more controlled with less use of moongel.

@morast6330 3 года назад

This!

@jeremymull6138 3 года назад

Evans reverse dot is what I have been using for the last several years. I love it on my stock Gretsch wood snare.

@mattwhite399 3 года назад

Awesome video!

@livetorock1844 3 года назад

Awesome video! This resonates with my own trial and error attempts at recording the snare drum. The Trump reference was priceless.

@peterasberg9761 3 года назад

Kvadratish, praktish und delikat!

@Startrekker77 3 года назад

Killer video!! I’m off to buy the Evans Hydraulic Coated!!!! Love the warm thump!!!! Thanks so much for another super useful vid!!!!!!

@ZeBubba 3 года назад

Ambassador had the snap and crack a snare needs to stand out in a busy track. I've been using Remo CS recently, but thinking about going back to Amba, cheers for giving me some direction!

@Stubz_Perez 3 года назад

I have little recording experience as a drummer but strictly going off of what I feel and what I like; my go-to snare setup is a Controlled Sound on the batter and some form of a Diplomat Ambassador on the snare side. Right now I have a CS-X on my batter and a hazy Diplomat on my snare. I tune maybe a fair amount higher based on what you had your snare set to. It's not pingy but it has a good, meaty crack to it. I like a little bit of ring and about a medium amount of sustain.

@jcdrums2798 9 месяцев назад

Very good comparison ! Ambassador is definitly the best

@chromebull884 Год назад

I highly recommend checking out the Hi-Energy by Aquarian. It is perfect for metal and rock.

@thevibromatic4619 3 года назад

Hi Kristian, super Video und wie immer, sehr gute A-B-Vergleiche! Vielen Dank! Ich spiele schon ewig Remo Powerstrokes auf meinen Snares, aber das Video hat mich echt neugierig gemacht, und ich werde zukünftig auch wieder mal Ambassadors für unsere Aufnahmen benutzen. 💪

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Dat war die Idee! Ambassadors sind schon cool, aber etwas schwieriger gleichmäßig zu spielen.

@thevibromatic4619 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Hehe, ja, vor allem bei so nem Bim-Bang-Bom-Trommler wie mich. 🤷‍♂️😄

@ZackMester 10 месяцев назад

Agreed. I keep coming back to the ambassador but I’m going to try a pinstripe on the snare for a brighter rehearsal space that I play in.

@tomarlinghaus7330 3 года назад

Definitely the ambassador! Just don't be lazy when it's about tuning and there is a snare with character

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Howdy! Did you get your shirt?

@tomarlinghaus7330 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Yes, Thanks! You'll get a little "thank you gift" on Instagram soon :)

@BalashToth 3 года назад

For my ears it feels like the Ambassador has more of those high frequencies (4-5khz) by default that you need to fight for in a heavy mix. Great and unique video!

@BalashToth 3 года назад

Haha and I just realized Kristian said the same thing at the end if the video 😁

@headroomguitar 3 года назад

The hydraulic head would be a godsend for recording a less than great drummer. Super consistent snare hits with a twist of 6 screws, no shaming, no hair pulling. Session saved.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Yes, exactly my thoughts

@OtwanD 3 года назад

I tried so many snareheads but always came back to embassador single ply. Even for a drummer and not engineer we usually want ringy stuff. Brass + Embassador is the way to go :)

@WolfusMusicus 3 года назад

The reinforcement does not only strengthen the point of impact. Because it adds weight to the center the overtone structure gets shifted and the first few of them get closer to harmonic overtones. This is also the reason why the pitch sounds different although the fundamental frequency was tuned the same.

@rockdahaus 3 года назад

I´m not a pro, but would recommend Remo controlled sound (CS) coated with the bottom black dot or the Evans power center. They are more like the Ambassador but with a little more focus and durability. Cool vid! Grüße aus Braunschweig

@comand0Metalero1 3 года назад

Oh yeah man me too my favorite is the CS

@tsalagi78 3 года назад

Thanks!

@TheGarageRecordingSC 3 года назад

They all sound great, I guess you could use them in different scenarios such as the occasion when you have a drummer who doesn’t hit very consistent, then you could use the hydraulic which would kind of control his inconsistency. I think I like the heavy weight the best, since it has a little bit of a controlled sound but still has some of the ring. I would love to see some videos of the other drumheads as well.🤘🏻🤘🏻

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Thanks! I agree that the Hydraulic should do wonders on inconistent drummers!

@georgepelekoudis 3 года назад

Good comparison. I use these three head types. Can’t go wrong with Ambassadors. The Heavyweight is a few cranks away from Jay Weinberg 😅 I found the Hydraulics sound good on light wood snares, especially when hit hard. Interesting results with our Yamaha CC Kapur snare.

@zinck8 3 года назад

Would have loved to see the Remo Controlled Sound, its an ambassador with a dot. Seems to be kind of a standard in studios

@svartrav8259 3 года назад

Tune Bot is da shit, i works, love it

@jonaskjellgren3855 3 года назад

Great video👌

@timlovegrove1097 3 года назад

Remo also do a Controlled Sound X head, which I think you're referencing at the end, and is halfway between the Ambassador and the Evans Heavyweight - 12mil with a dot in the middle. I really like it, it's less ringy and "hollow" sounding than an Ambassador, but isn't totally deadened and flat and doesn't need a moon gel (maybe a half or quarter gel for certain tunings). I've tried the Hydraulics and there's something about the construction that makes them physically harder and more tiring to play. The oil dampening makes them somewhat quieter and there's a lot less rebound, so you have to put more into them to get the same sort of sounds.

@DavePowell666 3 года назад

Looking forward to a Donald Trump Signature Snare sample pack in the future. 😆

@SlyHikari03 Год назад

Lol

@silasschue 3 года назад

How does the head sound? Kohle: Ding Dang Dung 😂 Nice video, thanks a lot !

@vhmendonca 3 года назад

Great Video, Kristian! The Ambassador fits my taste and style better. I also love the Evans HD Dry. Have you tried this one before? I agree with your statement regarding thick crashes, they don't sound good. Shout out to the drummer on the video! Great grooves!

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

I get a little confused with all the different Evans heads. Is that the one with the holes?

@vhmendonca 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Correct!

@ManiacFitness 2 года назад

I know Aquarian and Evans used to make Kevlar snare heads mostly for marching snares but if you want to go for that gun shot sound 👍

@borndrumming1972 3 года назад

Okay. So I watched until the end. As I listened to the a/b between the Ambassador and the hydraulic I could hear that the thickness or beefiness of the hydraulic head was able to make the aluminum shell have a tone that was more Audible. The Remo Ambassador seems to get its overtones exclusively from the tightness of the head, the tuning of the bottom head and how you hit it. I would like to experiment with that hydraulic head on both wood and metal drums.

@markospolar1577 3 года назад

Hi there, I've always been a fan of thick drumheads - the thicker the better because POWER!!!! Not anymore. Really good stuff and damn you for making me spend my money (on thinner drumheads). :) On a side note: it really helps to (at least try to) see things from a different perspective, for instance "the feeling of bashing the drums because POWER" vs. "the sound you want on a record". Two very different things which I only realized watching this video. THANK YOU!!! BR, M

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Thanks! Great to hear I could share some wisdom! Spread the word and stay tuned!

@AndreiJumuga 3 года назад

Hey Kohle, awesome video! For dampening, did you try the Snareweight? (if you don't have S-Hoops on snares) It's way more flexible than moongels and doesn't change the attack as much, only the sustain. Also, for character, check out the Evans Calftone, definitely not as durable, but extremely tasty. I tracked a grindcore/death metal album with it on a Supraphonic and loved it.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Gonna check that out. Thanks!

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Which head would you take? Attack or punch? What do you prefer?

@tnikiforov 3 года назад

Controlled sound clear For the win!

@arrowintheknee9956 9 месяцев назад

Remo CS is my go to, most of the time.

@DontWorryImAPilot 3 года назад

I've had a pile of drummers bring the Evans Hydraulics in for their toms lately. I'd describe them on toms as exactly what you said about them on snares: boring, dark, not a lot of attack, too short for a tom. I think they're probably good for a drummer who can't get their drums in great tune. They probably also would be great in a DIY touring situation especially considering durability and the fact that there's often not a PA for the drums.

@nilsgariboff 2 месяца назад

Nice one! Where is the video on cymbals you mentioned? Cheers

@willesposito9165 3 года назад

Very interesting

@eliaskapravelos7171 3 года назад

Love the remo stuff, evans usually sounds pretty eh to me, way too dampened, I'd rather get a bright source to dampen later than a dark source to brighten up and find all sorts of bleed artefacts in.

@Checker1O1 3 года назад

Where is the bass speaker video? Lol love the content buddy! Cheers from Canada.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

You've seen the one where I tired 3-4 different speakers right? Check the bass playlist.

@MrAngryTwinkie 3 года назад

Depends on the snare, especially the hoops in my experience. My default is usually an Ambassador Vintage which is a 2 ply. One layer of 7.5mil one of 3mil

@Leotardoification 3 года назад

So your head is 1,1cm thick? Doubt it

@Leotardoification 3 года назад

@@robjobse8860 yes, he edited it after my post. He initially wrote mm

@DaisyHead666 2 года назад

I had a Remo Weatherking head that lasted for YEAAARRSSS and im an extremely hard hitter. Sounded really nice too.

@blakedmc1989DrumsHD Год назад

i was not fortunate with Remo and it quickly broke, but when i threw in Evans, it lasted and lasted

@cDisturbed. 10 месяцев назад

I love the hydraulic on my snare, paired with the snare side 500 it’s a beast

@victorloya1590 3 года назад

Wow, I have been using Remo Emperors, now I will try Ambassadors.

@michanowak7060 3 года назад

How about one more episode on mixing distortion and fuzz? What if we mix some modern chugging heavy distortion with classic octave fuzz for both chugs and sparkling leads? Or if we add phaser or reverb to the fuzz side to make it even wilder while keeping rock solid chug? You made the modern metal tone sound dirty, time to make it sound psychedelic!

@scottbyler2649 Год назад

“If you play rock or metal, don’t buy cymbals that are called rock or metal “ that’s the best advice in this video! And, I agree on the remo ambassador. Drums should be alive and noisy. You are wise beyond your years!

@grampageoff 3 года назад

Evans HD dry is my fave snare head. You should check em out sometime.

@ATotalDork 3 года назад

Great video, but what's with the watermark on the top right?

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

My upcoming academy

@Charlyfromthenuclearcity 2 года назад

Albert Fish waking up : "I think I want to use three heads today."

@SimonKranzDrums 3 года назад

Quick nerdy question: is 260Hz the lug pitch or the center pitch of the batter head? Depending on the thickness of the head and if it has a center dot, the pitch of the head will be different even though the lug pitch is the same in my experience. Thanks for the video, I'm already looking forward to the affordable mic shootout! \m/

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Lug it is!

@matijatatomirovic3351 3 года назад

You absolutely need to try a clear head. Coating takes away a lot of snap, which you usually add with an eq later. I love Emperor clears on snare.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

That's the next test for sure!

@Freogeteknet 7 месяцев назад

I wonder if you needed to tighten the thicker ply more to get to the same frequency as the thinner heads. If that's the case it will theoretically go lower.

@anthonykragness6934 Год назад

Evans hybrid is my go to.

@Glurbschnurb 3 года назад

I love the snap of a Genera Dry

@erikkroll2154 3 года назад

I use coated ambassador with damping. Gives me the sound I like. Using a Shure 98 on it.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

You're in my team then! ;)

@cmd_f5 3 года назад

Your thoughts on Aquarian heads? I personally love them more than Remos.

@allyemeraart 3 года назад

aquarian single plys are so fuckin nasty (in a good way).

@hillie47 2 года назад

My local drum tech says there's an Aquarian "sound", but I've really been enjoying their snare heads. Their coatings seem to last much longer than other brands as well.

@danlc95 Год назад

Excellent heads. I use them too from time to time. Remo and Aquarian are the only ones I like.

@FedericoSala 3 года назад

Which snare mic mount are you using ? thanks

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

LP Claw

@FedericoSala 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult thank you very much mister kohle!!

@calebcoleman9569 3 года назад

One thing I’ve noticed about using too much dampening or too thick of heads, is it my sound good with the drums in solo, but in a dense mix, it sounds like a short, weak blip.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

What I’m saying! Don’t dampen too much from the get go.

@JB.Rochwol Год назад

Why didn’t you include the Remo Controlled Sound Coated?

@JesterDyne 3 года назад

Jep I agree, leave a little Ring Ring in it. So you have a little Ring Ring on the Snare, Dengl Dengl on the Bass and Bruzl Bruzl on the Guitars. I think I've just described the early Slipknot Sound :) I've never tried those thicker Heads on a Piccolo Snare. Could this help some gravity blasts? Oh my Geht we hate those to fix in the Mix...

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@vicsandSTR 3 года назад

It also depends on the snare, for example the ambassador works great for my gretsch thin steel snare, but I also have a cast aluminum drumcraft snare whose ring is totally uncontrollable and i have to use an Hd dry or something similar...

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Of course it depends on the snare. The video is mainly to show what the heads do in general

@acidbath3226 11 месяцев назад

I like the aquarian reflectors I think they have more dynamics than the evans hydraulics

@dcp10200 3 года назад

From my understanding Hydraulics heads are aimed at getting that dry 70s Soul/R&B tone out of your kit and tuned super low, also I think Dave Grohl used them on the Songs for the Deaf record with QOTSA with low tuning and recording the shells separate from the cymbals. They're a cool sound but Metal doesn't seem to be their strong suit

@thepluggy1 Год назад

260 hrtz is the fundamental pitch yes? What would the lug pitch be at that then? Love the content.

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

No! That's the pitch of the batter head!

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

No! That's the pitch of the batter head!

@defekkto 3 года назад

Ambassador X is king for versatility

@irok75 3 года назад

My go to batter head for snare are Remo Coated Powerstroke 3 :) yep those Evans sounds dead.

@Bcwilderness 3 года назад

a single head on a deep old sonor acrylic tom conversion is the bollox or deep brass, 8 inch and deeper

@Bcwilderness 3 года назад

and a hazy on the bottom tabletop tight

@toemasmeems 3 года назад

I don’t even own a drum set and it wouldn’t be practical to get one for me but I always like a Kohle vid

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Haha! That's the spirit.

@Prodrummer1603 3 года назад

I use the Heavyweight, but with a much higher tuning (top frequency: 311 Hz). Gives you more crack with a nice ring, but still a fat, punchy sound. I love these higher pitched snare sounds. Great example: Rammsteins Snare Sound on "Rosenrot"/"Reise, Reise". But i have a second snare which i will tune much lower to get that fat, flat snare sound. Will try the Evans Hydraulic Red-Head for that.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

311Hz is quite high! Hard to get enough punch at that frequency in my experience.

@Prodrummer1603 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult This frequency is not the fundamental pitch of the head but the frequency you can measure at the edge of the head. It's always higher than the frequency you can hear when you hit the middle of the head. And this pitch is the same that Matt Halpern used on "Periphery III" for most songs. I would say it's medium to high tuning.

@heavyweightmusic4191 3 года назад

@@Prodrummer1603 thanks for your information. I was seeking for p3 snare sound, especially 'the price is wrong, lune (i think other song is kinda low tuned than those 2 songs)

@musikhunden6694 3 года назад

But could you not approximate the sound of a thinner ply head by tuning the heavier ply heads UP in comparison?? Or no??? Maybe a test?? Or anybody know? I wanted to use single ply dot head but my drummer wants to use very heavy thick head and now I am sad panda :(

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

I haven't tried. But I'm pretty sure you can't get the bright attack of thinner heads by tuning up.

@danlc95 Год назад

Definitely try cranking up your drummer's preferred head first. I have always had good luck doing that for others that needed help with their sound. I never had a tune bot nor will I ever have one, which allows for experimentation.

@king-kore-studio 3 года назад

I prefer the Evans hybrid Kevlar head for my studio kit

@md4man 3 года назад

The heavier heads seem appealing until they are in an actual mix & then they will sound "short" (for lack of a better word) and thus, weak. You need some ring in the snare for rock and metal mixes. Personally, I use Aquarian Texture Coated and Texture Coated Studio Xs, depending on the snare. Their texture coating is far superior to Remo's and I like their tone more than equivalent heads from Evans. But, too each their own.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

I fully agree!

@danlc95 Год назад

The Aquarian Texture Coated and the Texture Coated Power Dot are favorites of mine. I prefer Remo and Aquarian. I'm not a fan of Evans heads. Their G1 and Power Center reverse dot fell short on tone and feel for me.

@OsmiumStudios 3 года назад

Personally we found that the heavy weight does not sound that great. Usually emperor is what gives that flexible ring and longevity of 2ply :)

@OlliLappalainen 3 года назад

Ambassador is the thinnest batter head on the market. At least I've never encountered any thinner batter heads.. :D but still, I don't know why so many metal and rock drummers are not using it. It makes drums so ringy that they sound huge. Because they resonate so well. Ambassador or Emperors are my go to heads for toms. Standard, nothing special, resonate well, good for any genre. It's just the idea of everything having to be thiccc and big to sound like heavy. Idk. The thing in the bottom of that head is for control. Less overtones. 😉 I guess a bit similiar with Remo Controlled sound that I like for the snare.

@MrAngryTwinkie 3 года назад

Diplomat is even thinner.

@OlliLappalainen 3 года назад

@@MrAngryTwinkie True! 7,5Mil where Ambassador is 10Mil. I should try that actually just for the sake of trying.. :D

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Don't people use it as resonant heads?

@OlliLappalainen 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Might use, I guess. Sounds reasonable. Drum, like Tama, that are shipped with Remo heads have Ambassadors top&bottom by default. But that thin head as Diplomat probably makes the drum sing like a Disney princess.

@johnstiltner1 3 года назад

remo falams?

@TheFatApache 3 года назад

oh jesus, that bing bing bong bong lmfao.

@methodovermotive9275 3 года назад

So this is something that makes little sense to me as a drummer-producer: Why pick a full-depth (6") drum and then aggressively boost the highs? Why not just start with a shallower drum, and EQ less? (I have a Pearl brass-free floating piccolo that can cut through anything.) Would love a similar 'German style" comparison vid of different snare shell materials & depths.

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Noted! I also have a Free Floating Brass snare. You still need to boost the highs on the close mics for a modern sound.

@mikesperling9878 3 года назад

Awesome video as always! Have you ever tried the hybrid from evans? This thing costs 70 bucks and should survive a nuclear fallout. XD

@KohleAudioKult 3 года назад

Haven’t tries those. Are they thicker than the Hydraulic?

@Monkeymansdrums 3 года назад

they are marching heads converted to work with regular snare. really bright, but dry as desert

@mikesperling9878 3 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult they should be a bit thicker yes. But can crank them like hell. But like the other comment said they are super dry and they really don't ring at all. Through you video i changed back to one ply and my hammered snare sings now like a bird. ;D