Overhead Mic Shoot-Out with an INSANE ROCK DRUMMER!

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@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Which overhead mics are your favorites?

@zoutubecom 2 года назад

Ich leih mir oft die kml 184 von neumann aus. Bisjetzt bin ich ganz gut damit gefahren. Die lewitt sind allerdings sehr interessant - sind die 440 pure nicht zufällig auch top für das Geld?

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

@@zoutubecom Bei den 184s sind die höhen echt hart ey. Probier mal was Anderes! Wirst sehen, damit lebt es sich entspannter ;)

@CountNetsrac 2 года назад

The Schnitzel one at the end :P

@JayBeBerg 2 года назад

I just discovered the Line Audio mics which are the first inexpensive pencil condensers I've tried that sound un-hyped and natural as overheads.

@tobins6800 2 года назад

Which ever one is cheapest.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Such a great video Kristian! Thanks for sharing!

@thesongacademy5017 2 года назад

Great video of a great Drum room

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@thesongacademy5017 fantastic!

@djentlover 2 года назад

I respect your ability to not defend your pricier purchases

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Haha! Thanks!

@tiputin 2 года назад

Neumann sounds like it have built-in soothe. I love that mic!

@josuastangl7140 2 года назад

That's just how I thought of it haha

@The404Erorr 2 года назад

It's beer o'clock! Also as I am about to buy some Lewitt mics this video is highly welcome! Already super impressed with what I've seen online but this will be awesome 👌🏻

@DavePowell666 2 года назад

I thought he seems like quite a happy drummer having a good time....I wasn't expecting the apocalyptic band photo to pop up.😜🔥

@stephanematis 2 года назад

440 Pure ... awesome. Lacks the fancy bits of the Flex. And Lewitt folks seem very active ... all over.

@DrKevGuitar 2 года назад

I really liked the Lewitt's clarity in the upper mids, pre-EQ! It made the kit feel more alive, more character to each of the cymbals, more snap to the snare, and more of a live room feel too.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Makes it even better for you! ;)

@DrKevGuitar 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Different people, different ears! :)

@whirldlee6352 2 года назад

Amazing review/demonstration! Thank you!

@Seitan-enjoyer 2 года назад

Awesome video, and damn that guy can play the drums!!

@AdamMGuitar 2 года назад

Just got the 441 FLEX. Great, versatile mic, love it!

@BadischBigBaitFishing 2 года назад

Du bist einfach der Knaller!!! Tolles Video - und deine Video Produktionen werden von mal zu mal besser. \m/

@reynaldocuevas6543 2 года назад

I just got a 441 Flex with the Lewitt promotion that is going on. Great to see a video doing a comparison supporting the purchase. I did not have a lot of cash laying around and this mic seemed like a great deal, so I went for it. Wanted something versatile for vocals, overheads, and guitar cab. Wouldn't mind seeing a video of the 441 Flex used on guitar cabs.

@socialbeats1 2 года назад

I am using the Lewitts now for 2 years as overheads. I have a lot of other options in the studio but I just love this mic.

@slavesforging5361 2 года назад

cool video! I love the sound of those lewitts and how bright they keep the snare. so much detail in the high mids! I use a Lewitt 640 Rex on my kick and it helps my old Ludwig set sound as good as it can. definitely my favorite kick hole mic. slightly better than the Audix and Sennheiser, which are my other favs.

@TheGarageRecordingSC 2 года назад

Great video!!! Nothing wrong with saving two grand! And that dude can play his ass off! Damn!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

@theheavymetalyogi9116 2 года назад

awesome video Kristian. I would love it if you do another video with this concept but for guitar mics! I know you've done a lot of speaker shootouts that have been awesome but a shoot out of affordable vs expensive mics used for heavy guitars would make my day. cheers!

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Believe me, it's not gonna sound "better" than a 57, just different. But I agree I should do a comparison!

@nickolasgough8529 2 года назад

I have been very much enjoying the results I've been getting using a matching pair of Lewitt LCT 440 PURE condenser microphones, as close mics on my guitar cabinets. 🤘

@nickolasgough8529 2 года назад

@James Williams ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FWRwx9asP08.html The LCT 540 S from Lewitt has a Pad switch for both -6db and -12db for recording loud sound sources. 😊

@felipousismix 2 года назад

Same here

@cajun3197 2 года назад

Killer drum sound and playing!

@roarchristoffersen 9 месяцев назад

Awesome review. Thanks!!!! Lewitts kick ass

@rockboy360 2 года назад

Damn, those raw drums sound mix ready!

@antennahead 2 года назад

Der Drummer hatte Spaß!! Er grinst wie ein Honigkuchenpferd! Das spricht auch für dein Studio :-) Das Lewit ist die Überraschung...

@alastairwain 2 года назад

Phenomenal drummer!

@chugmonkey5033 2 года назад

Lewitt mics are some of the best value for money products available. I have a Lewitt 440 pure, and I swear by it. It's great on vocals and acoustic guitar.

@AtTheSourceStudios 2 года назад

Neumann's are definitely the alpha here. Your EQ helped the Lewitts buy it can only get so close. Would love to hear how the TLM102's or Warm 47jr's compare to the Lewitts too!

@BierMeister360 2 года назад

I've used the wa 47, and 47jrs on drum rooms, but not oh, sadly can't test the originals, but they do sound great

@tillsommerdrums Год назад

Considering the massive price difference, I wouldn't call the Neumanns "Alpha". At least not in this setting. If all it takes is a few well placed EQ moves to make the Lewitts almost sound like the Neumanns, then that is competition in my book.

@stainpain77 Год назад

I really appreciate this review! Your self and Glen really made me reconsider what microphones I am going to put into my studio. We have been using shore for years and we are making the official jump and investment. Maybe in time we will be able to afford the 1040. We look forward to using this in our session coming up. Thank you for the confidence and making this investment. I did shoot the guys at Lewitt a message and mentioned your name for the Credit reference as well. Thank you for your amazing thorough videos as well. You are the go to tutorial for my engineers

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

Great to hear that! Thanks a lot! Make sure you don't miss my upcoming academy, the Kohle Audio Kult.

@meekoloco Год назад

Love it

@miserypath 2 года назад

As I'm not recording real drums but currently owned Superior Drummer 3 I got some really cool inspirations by this video!

@valerie98 2 года назад

Hello from Vienna! Awesome video!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Kristian Rocks!

@kshitijk14 2 года назад

Interesting ,this was great Amazing drummer

@NacekO 2 года назад

Crazy good drummer. That Vienner schnitzel made me hungry :)

@legacyShredder1 Год назад

I have stereo pairs of both Neumann 107 & Lewitt 441. I use both pairs darn near everyday.

@enjoyevan Год назад

I cannot believe there is a thousand dollar difference between these two mics. I actually like the clarity of the Lewitt in the upper mids. Sounds like a telefunken mic.

@enriquekikzdelapazbichain1126 2 года назад

minute 8:44, the lewitts have more snare presence! I love it!

@mosermichael4404 2 года назад

I'm a total fan of the Lewitt mics! ❤️ The LCT 440felx is really a great mic for overhead or room mic. I like to use it with an lct540s zero for room sound. Killer kombie !! 🤗 the 440felx on the outside left and right about 3-4m distance to the drum and the 540s in the middle about 5-8 meters away from the drum. Gives a super hopeful and deep sound. And for overhead myself I use LCT 340c. Snare an MTP 440dm and bottom LCT 240pro. Hihat also LCT 240pro. But also loved the Tom mic from lewitt DTP 340 TT! the sound is just great at Tom's But also the kick drum mic DTP340rex and DTP 640 rex tip mic. For my taste, I think better than shure beta52 or audix. But as I said, it's a matter of taste! 😉

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Gotta try some more of their mics. The only other one I’m constantly using the dynamic 440 as Snare bottom mic.

@mosermichael4404 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult jack the LCT 640TS.. Uf in credible mic! 👌👍😍 Du wirst es lieben! 😀

@mariusvolz5471 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult if theres any interest to lent my 540 (old version without S) jut let me know \M/

@hogblockula9335 2 года назад

Damn that drummer rips

@soundman1402 Год назад

Hey, some SDCs you might actually like on overheads are the Austrian Audio CC8s. I bought a pair of those for live drum overheads and found that they're a darker mic that sounds exceptionally smooth. No harshness or brittleness at all! I'll probably use them in the studio, as well... As smooth as they are on top, they'll take EQ well.

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

I still haven't checked them out. I love the Austrian 818s though

@cajun3197 2 года назад

I know what you mean about the tiny condenser. Reminds me of the sound of the band of ants on the old cartoons....eeee iiiiiyyaaa eee eee eh ah oonch ooonch 😂😂😂

@DaPhunk73 2 года назад

Great video. Matching the eq response of the 2 sets, you used some fancy square eq curve. Can you explain what it does, and why you use it?

@ChrisCaaa 3 месяца назад

0:01 I like where this is heading (I just bought a Flex)

@lordgraga 2 года назад

I'd be really interested in shootout with Thomann's T-Bone brand, or Warm Audio. My friend lent me a T-Bone SC-1100 and it sounded surprisingly good on vocals.

@tonyadams6985 Год назад

Lewitt 640ts next generation might be a good overhead test. Check them! You might be impressed! Thanks for this video.

@CrushingAxes 2 года назад

Both sound great ! I'm not using a good system to check it out, but I can't hear much difference. Man Bogren have some very interesting stuff!

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

The Bogren drums samples are indeed great.

@soonerkickboxing1 7 месяцев назад

Kohle , mil gracias por tu trabajo tan bien logrado , estoy por comprar el Lewitt 540s , para mi over head , ya que tengo platillos oscuros en su mayoría , espero que mi mezcladora Yamaha mg10 xu ...pueda captar el sonido del micrófono......jijijij....quiero grabar mi bateria con dos micrófonos en el piso tengo un Shure Beta 91a...uso principal es live Streaming.....!!!

@joemarta8221 2 года назад

Love this. I feel like some people use expensive gear instead of learning to listen, because its really hard to learn to listen. Have you ever auditioned the CAD M179 large diaphragm condenser? I felt exactly the same way about it as you do on the Lewitts here. Sounds very good, great quality, switchable pickup pattern, and just a few small EQ moves away from most anything you'd want to do with it.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Thanks! Never heard the CAD, but was told it was a sleeper.

@tobins6800 2 года назад

Warren at Produce Like pro did a most awesome demo of some Lewitt mics.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

He actually told me to check them out!

@tobins6800 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult once I sell a bike or 2, I will be getting 1 of 2 mics. Either the 150 or 300 dollar mics. And an audient ID4 interface.

@soundhannes 2 года назад

Hey Kristian, I think your OH sound is incredibly good. Very detailed and clear. Your position is, if I see it correctly, in front of the drum kit. Is there a video of you explaining the OH position? Do you measure the distance to the SD? What height is your starting point? It usually looks like 1.8 m to 2 m. How far do the OHs reach into the set? I would appreciate an answer. Greetings from Hamburg.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Hey man! I'm working on a drum course for my upcoming academy that will explain all this very detailed. I'm usually above the main crashes and yes, I do measure the distance to the snare.

@jackemoberts 2 года назад

Hey Kohle! Du kannst auch den EQ-Match Modus von dem Fabfilter EQ nutzen um wirklich exakt alle Differenzen zwischen Lewitt und Neumann zu sehen :) Klar, das Ohr macht natürlich immer die besten Entscheidungen, aber für Analysen ist es auf jeden Fall ein cooles Feature :)

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Weiß ich. Klar. Aber das ist meistens viel zu komplex, um das plakativ und nachvollziehbar in einem YT Video zu zeigen!

@rytchbytchrockingclub3867 2 года назад

To my ear the Neumanns still sound more expensive and more like "signal integrity", and they definitely have a little more "beef". I feel like you have set the low-mid EQ boost on the Lewitts a little too high. With more "low body" EQed into the Lewitts they might be on par (beef-wise). Due to the higher sound integrity I would always prefer the Neumanns over the Lewitts - if I HAD both of them lying around. Since I don't, and since I don't have 3000 € to spend, I might prefer the Lewitts :-)

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

I agree! I will also reach for the Neumanns, but a lot of people might prefer to save some money!

@felipousismix 2 года назад

Hi Krisitan: I would like if you can make a comparison between the Neumann and the LCT 440 PURE since both microphones have fixed cardioid patterns, and the 440 should sound the same as the 441 but with a single capsule.

@fitzeflinger 2 года назад

i could imagine the difference after eq when added with the multitrack could also be phase related due to using higher filter slopes for the eq correction. but i almost never use the higher filter slopes for the bell shape, so i don't have any experience with those...

@okaight7248 2 года назад

Neumann are smoother in that mid/high mid area, you can hear that thwack nasal-y increase when you switch. Both are still extremely good usable and nothing a simple EQ can’t fix. Room sounds great!

@antnyneveruploads 2 года назад

To my ear, the Neumann's had ever so slightly more articulation/depth to them compared to the EQ'd Lewitts. I was damn surprised at how close they became after the first 2k-4k EQ dip though. Really imperceptible unless you A-B them, both sounded fantastic in the mix :)

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

There is a difference and the Neumans do sound better. But after the EQ it is so close that most people either won't care at all or at least not spend 2000$ more.

@caprimaniac01 2 года назад

Super Video. Hätte nicht gedacht dass der Unterschied so minimal ist. Frage: Wie machst du das in Cubase um im "Nicht-Solo" Betrieb zwischen dem Lewitt und Neumann Track hin und her zu wechseln? Du fährst da immer mit der Maus über beide drüber.

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Einfach einen der beiden Parts muten und dann mit dem Mute Werkzeug über beide drüber. Schaltet dann quasi hin und her.

@murraywebster1228 Год назад

Have you tried the sE electronics RNR1 Rupert Neve ribbon mic?, on overheads(I use a version from Glynn Jones positioning), and the on guitar amps unbelievable, compared to other mics at the same level I’ve had mixes where I can have the the guitar 6dB quieter in the mix with the same clarity with the same loudness, quite an amazing effect

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

I still need to try that one!

@murraywebster1228 Год назад

@@KohleAudioKult you should, once you’ve tried it you won’t want to give it back, I’ve got a nice live Konzert desk mix with Eric Steckler, used it for his guitars, could let you hear it if you give me a way to get it to you, could Dropbox or so

@SpectreSoundStudios 2 года назад

Killer drummer! I LOVE that drum room... sooooo nice!

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

❤️🍺

@fleekwoodmac3705 2 года назад

I still really like the video you did with the ribbon mics as overheads. All the sharpness and wash just evaporated. SDC and LDC always have a harshness to them I'm eq'ing out in post (Custom K Darks all the way around). I'd get a pair of ribbons but my mouth breathing drummer would knock them over and then I'd be f*cked. We need a bigger studio space ............

@MetalBastards666 2 года назад

Jen Borgir done the job!

@NyuuPhyllo 2 года назад

How do you think the mic preamps would affect this? Do you think there would be more differences between the two mics with a different (let's say cheaper) preamp?

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

I don't think so.

@songmore Год назад

That drummer rips.

@matobarla 2 года назад

Hi. Is mic on first tom pointing away from hihat?

@Fred.A.Dubeau 2 года назад

i’ve never tried large diaphragm condensers as OHs... i should try that one day i pretty much always use some 451s... and lots of sm57... yeah i’m pretty boring

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Those 451 are the brightest (harshest) mics I have ever heard. You should really try something else and find out if this thickens your drum tones!

@soundman1402 2 года назад

The Neumanns demonstrated why they're $1000 more! In solo, the Lewitts sounded harsh and "spitty" with especially the crash cymbals and open hi-hat; the Neumanns had no harshness at all!

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

I think the EQ tamed it well enough to sound great in the mix. Don’t you think?

@soundman1402 Год назад

@@KohleAudioKult Oh, for sure! In the mix it was very hard to tell the difference. The average listener would never know, making these a great alternative for those who can't afford the TLM-107. (But this makes me want the TLM-107s even more, too! haha)

@chriscam23041 2 года назад

The Neumann seem like they have a bit more "air" in the top end and 2 to 4.5k is def smoother. I have both mics. The Lewits are def more pronounced in the 2 to 5 range. But as you showed a bit of eq can tame that. I still prefer the "air" that the Neumann have.

@legacyShredder1 Год назад

Say "air" one more time..

@mariusvolz5471 2 года назад

I wonder wether the same applies to vocals... you might have to check harsh frequencies and S sounds with the lewitt but might get a more crispy and direct vocal sound than with the Neumann... maybe you'll try that one day

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Sure. But I'm actually even more interested in the Lewitt flagship for vocals.

@mariusvolz5471 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Uh yeaah... I would love to see an in depth check and all day usefullness check on that FET/Tube blend feature \m/

@scottbyler2649 Год назад

German’s they are the wurst…🤣 just kidding, yer a genius man. Keep doing what you’re doing. And, the drummer is nutz!

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

Haha! King of the Wurst! 😜

@tavomb 2 года назад

How did you achieve the stereo sound when soloing the OH mics? Or maybe I didn't get that you were using a pair each time?

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Of course! It’s two pairs of mics.

@tavomb 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult geez, im dumb

@WalterdaLima 2 месяца назад

i have noted that your toms and snare track are set in stereo mode. Can you please tell me why? I usually record in mono and set individual pan of any piece of the drum kit.

@KohleAudioKult 2 месяца назад

Nope. You got that with. Snare and toms are always mono here.

@luisturrubiates5162 2 года назад

which you recommend more for overheads between Shure sm81, se voodoo vr1 or vr2, rode ntr, akg c214 or lewitt lct440 pure?

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

214 or Voodoo

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

214 or Voodoo

@luisturrubiates5162 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult is a soyuz launcher or cloudlifter necessary for the voodoo?

@TheSafetysheep Год назад

Ssl compression settings you enjoy?

@KohleAudioKult Год назад

All in here! Highly recommended! www.kohleaudiokult.com/courses/Drum-Bus-Compression

@igorkuzmanovic5990 2 года назад

Let's have a beer

@TheMarauder1974 2 года назад

Certainly not €1,000 of a difference in sound!

@jdmclellan 2 года назад

Why wouldn't you use these for bright cymbals? What would you use? I have very bright Sabian AAXplosions heh

@KohleAudioKult 2 года назад

Probably some ribbons

@jdmclellan 2 года назад

@@KohleAudioKult Thanks! Can you recommend any lower priced ribbons for bright cymbals? I was looking at the Golden Age Projects R1

@legacyShredder1 Год назад

@@jdmclellan SE Voodoo ribbons (I'd suggest the active versions, but the passives do sound great.) I personally love Beyerdymanic M160's because they're dark and can take a ton of eq on the high end. Royer r10. Rode NTR. None of the mics I've listed are dirt cheap, but they're all fantastic that will get you professional results. I don't know what your level of production is or how much you're willing to spend, but $800-1500 on a set of ribbons will be in your locker for a lifetime provided you care for them.