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Area 419 Zero Press First Thoughts 

F-Class John
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Комментарии : 106   
@jassonco
@jassonco 3 года назад
The way you explain how this expensive piece of equipment is supposed to work makes the most and the way other's before you explained, is a night and day difference!!! I just passed it off as high end luxury reloading tool and I'd stay with what I'm using but, now I see where the value is! Thanks
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Thank you and I appreciate the kind words. Glad it helped.
@jassonco
@jassonco 3 года назад
@@FClassJohn I'm not an FClass shooter, long range shooter/hunter, and one can learn a lot from you guys!
@dargie12317
@dargie12317 Год назад
I am just an average shooter and reloading, I enjoy spend time with this press, I bought 1 extra turret and love it .
@br4713
@br4713 3 года назад
16:22 "Chuck Norris press, the press doesnt flex, the bench flexes under the press" it made me laugh
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Glad I could make you smile. But it's really true and the first thing that came to mind.
@Colt1927AC
@Colt1927AC 2 года назад
My Zero arrived today! I also had them send the seating anvil and an extra turret. I mounted the press on an InLine top plate which anchors into a flush mount base. Setup was simple and intuitive.
@kenthall6584
@kenthall6584 3 года назад
scientific Dillon vs Zero vs Co Ax test on paper at 600 or 1000 yds?
@jetthreat5000
@jetthreat5000 3 года назад
Would be cool to see! But that sure is a lot of work on John's end.
@poptart4YALL
@poptart4YALL 3 года назад
This would be neat.
@kenthall6584
@kenthall6584 3 года назад
@@jetthreat5000 5-10 of each should be enough
@area419
@area419 3 года назад
@@kenthall6584 our core focus with the ZERO wasn’t being able to load ammo that shoots a single fantastic group. Many, many presses can do that. We want you to be able to load ammo that consistently shoots small, day to day, week to week, month to month through a year/season. As most competitors have seen, that’s a lot easier said than done.
@fireyourrocketts
@fireyourrocketts Месяц назад
If one has the cash lying around, why not but other than that I stay with Dillon, have invested in so many accessories to change presses now, if anything I have added some Lee single turrets presses which works really well at a fraction of the price, but this is a really nice looking press.
@bearmat6605
@bearmat6605 3 года назад
Thanks for your take. I ended up selling my t7 because of the deflection you spoke of (still a great press however). Strictly using my coax now. Area 419 makes awesome products but, imo, having to unlock and lock the turret doesn't add any more convenience to the process than what one would essentially have with a coax. Interested in hearing other opinions on that; since deep down, I really want the 419. Edit: I'll add that I really miss the priming system on the t7.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I guess the biggest thing is that it's not a turret in the same sense so it's hard to compare. It's more like a really precise single stage with a turret on top rather than a multi-stage press. And yeah, missing the priming process is something others have mentioned as well.
@jumpboots101
@jumpboots101 3 года назад
Love area 419 products but don't see where this fits in anyone's reloading lineup. $1200 aluminum turret press.
@Russell-1
@Russell-1 3 года назад
With respect, you can’t be the judge of everyone’s reloading requirements though.
@vgl217
@vgl217 3 года назад
Honestly this is for the guy who's after as much consistency as physically possible in a press without going to arbor. Will it make a difference in the rifle? I don't know, but it certainly doesn't hurt. It'd be ideal for the guys doing serious scientific testing like SAC did for seating depths on the Berger 105's.
@11C1P
@11C1P 3 года назад
All of my firearms & reloading related purchases in 2019 & early 2020 all seem like genius purchases now, even something as plain as a couple bricks of primers. The good old days.
@PracticallySquared1
@PracticallySquared1 3 года назад
Great video! Seems like a solid press but not sure it's worth the coin personally. I would like to see someone compare the quality of ammunition of this press vs a coax. Kinda tough to justify the 3x cost based off features for me.
@willo7734
@willo7734 Год назад
Seems like the best press out there. I’m slowly trying to upgrade my gear a little at a time. Just ordered the AMP annealer so it’ll be a while before I can muster the capital to get a Zero, but it’s on the list.
@Guitarjourney4life
@Guitarjourney4life 2 года назад
I like dealing with area 419 so well, after I purchased two muzzle brakes, I seen they stocked the atlas bipods. So I ordered one of them from area 419 also
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
Yeah they're good people.
@sahmadi1000
@sahmadi1000 8 месяцев назад
Unless we can produce repeatable more accurate ammo, I would say it's a glorified T-7. I would love to see a Video that takes a look at what it produces. Thank you for taking time and trying to help us.
@charlesgiles4447
@charlesgiles4447 Год назад
Great review I need to retire my rock chucker and was torn between the T7 and the Zero.
@Russell-1
@Russell-1 3 года назад
John, thanks for your interesting early thoughts on the press. It’s a superb piece of machinery. As you mention, Area 419 intend it to be used in effect as a single stage press but with the added facility of having an array of pre-set dies in the carousel - this of course means processing batches of cases through each station rather than a single case going through several dies - then repeat - as with a true turret press. I can appreciate the concept of the press & the advantage (over a normal single stage press) of keeping dies set but how do you personally reconcile the prospect of moving to manual batch processing of cases (on effectively a single stage press) with your previous thoughts on the speed & automation advantages of using a Dillon XL750? I’m not knocking either method as they both work - I’m just curious if in the long run you think the Area 419 press will give you sufficient benefits (plus what the benefits may be) to make up for the loss of speed/automation which you’d valued so highly - or will you revert to your Dillion?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Thanks for the thorough question. I'll definitely be covering this topic through several videos soon. Hopefully as I go through it I'll be answering your question as others have had the same one albeit in different ways.
@yukon4545
@yukon4545 3 года назад
Why not decap on a separate press just to keep the 419 cleaner? Case feeder on the Dillon? Maybe your rifle cartridge won't work with a case feeder, I can't recall. Anyway, I'd think that keeping the decapping process somewhere else might be desirable. Good show John.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Decapping on the Zero is super clean compared to other presses because of how it was designed. I'll be showing that process in another video soon.
@terrycostakis6284
@terrycostakis6284 3 года назад
This or a T-7 are more like what I would expect you and Erik to be reloading on. I can’t see how you can get the most precise ammo with a progressive press. There are too many things to watch for and things to get slightly out of whack whereas a single stage (turret) allows you to monitor every bit of each process. I would love to see a head-to-head between the Area 419 and the T-7 to see if it’s worth four times the cost.
@Adcomb
@Adcomb 3 года назад
A progressive with auto drive is more consistent. Brass dwell time inside the die is exactly the same, ram pressure is exactly the same. They're just as capable of making precision ammo as a turret or single.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
The Zero (or T7) are definitely what people think of for precision ammo but progressives are capable albeit with a lot more work, patience and oversight. But the thing I'm really liking about the Zero is that I don't feel I'm sacrificing too much from a progressive for what I load, as it's a lot faster and smoother than I anticipated, but I'm gaining way more single step control which I think is ultimately what people are looking for when they try to load precision ammunition. Every person has a different personal style, need or ability so having an option like the Zero opens a new market which is great.
@DimaProk
@DimaProk 3 года назад
@@Adcomb This is what I was thinking of recently when I was loading on my progressive press, when the neck expander is getting pulled you get a bit of jerkiness which might result in powder drop being slightly off whereas if the auto drive was doing the work, it would go smoothly resulting in more consistency.
@br4713
@br4713 3 года назад
Christmas lasts long in your country. Nice gear I've machined a big lock ring on my lathe to have something perfectly square. After making some tests it didn't gave any improvements. The free floating method improved the squareness of my cases and also the concentricity ('O' ring between the press and the lock ring just lightly tightened).
@kip6006
@kip6006 3 года назад
Looking forward to your next video on this. Currently using a t7, and can see quite a few things this has over the redding already. Will be interesting to see your results!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
I've already been working on it and should have videos soon.
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 3 года назад
I gotta get me one of these precision engineered made in America Area 419 Turret press
@poptart4YALL
@poptart4YALL 3 года назад
Great review. I was curious about how press was designed to have zero run out versus free floating. I’m glad you touched on that.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it.
@ronnydowdy7432
@ronnydowdy7432 3 года назад
Keep us posted
@Forumrida38621
@Forumrida38621 2 года назад
So I've had mine for a couple weeks and love it except I think I got a defective one it has alot of play in the linkage and rubs like crazy.. I've been in contact with area419 so hopefully they take care of it
@dougstewart1575
@dougstewart1575 3 года назад
John, When you mounted the ZERO to the Big Dog press stand did you use the mounting plate that came with the press? Mounting the bench plate to the press then mounting that assembly to the stand?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Correct, you have to use both together.
@tcon1479
@tcon1479 3 года назад
I ordered the Big Dog Steel stand for my Zero... still waiting on the stand, but I want to use t track on my bench top... my t track uses 3/8” bolts. Can you tell me will that be too big to fit in the holes on the stand??
@georgelza
@georgelza Год назад
I have 2 things on my from me to me list, this is one... the other is the AutoTrickler V4.
@michaelthompson7570
@michaelthompson7570 2 года назад
they must be selling these things cause right now they are unavailable! Love the company too,,may be just slightly biased because they are in the middle of my old stomping grounds growing up. spent many days wetting a line in the maumee river near gr!
@xnorcal831x
@xnorcal831x 3 года назад
I want to get a area 419 with mighty armory dies. It doesnt sound like it's for bulk reload but its gives you amazing results with good dies. I bet doing a couple hundred for a match will get old fast. I love single stage but it's so slow in my eyes.
@cnB83
@cnB83 3 года назад
Cost too much....love my Redding T7
@justinvandee2008
@justinvandee2008 3 года назад
Be intered to see how concentric the ammo is vs Dillon
@35southkiwi16
@35southkiwi16 3 года назад
I think if you look at it from a time and motion point of view the method you describe would be the most efficient
@Larry6.5x47
@Larry6.5x47 3 года назад
Good review. Can you give your thoughts on the accuracy gained versus the time loss compared to your Dillon with the auto drive?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
I honestly haven't loaded enough on it yet to say. I'm hoping to get out to the 1000yd line in the next week or two and do some testing and that's where things should really shake out for me. But FWIW, it's like taking a breath when I use the Zero. As much as I love the Dillon/Autodrive setup, I have found myself tense while loading because you have a lot of mechanical things going on so while faster, it's more stressful than using the Zero. I feel like I have a better connection to my ammo and ultimately a little more confidence. Does that make sense? Plus very low maintenance now compared to my other setup.
@tobiastorsi
@tobiastorsi 3 года назад
Great video! Which die do you use to hold the gagepins? Am looking for one aswell. Thanks!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Here ya go ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FX9zMgY5kt8.html
@joshwoodward446
@joshwoodward446 3 года назад
John thanks as always for a great videos. Question, why do you run 2 different pin gauges in your process?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
I like having the option of either .283 or .284 on my gage pins. I use the .284 before powder/seating and the .283 one is often for after sizing if I want to uniform the necks before trim/chamfur.
@joshwoodward446
@joshwoodward446 3 года назад
@@FClassJohn thank you for the info. I really love the channel keep doing your thing buddy.
@timothyletkeman
@timothyletkeman 3 года назад
Thanks for the info. I’m in line somewhere.
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 3 года назад
Many new toys this year 🤣
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
We can only hope....😂
@gtroxlar8597
@gtroxlar8597 3 года назад
waiting for mine to arrive
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
woohooooooo
@gorillamotors
@gorillamotors 2 года назад
What brand of bullet pointer are you using?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
Accuracy One
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Год назад
So you can set crush in the priming station?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Год назад
I don't use the Lee primer on there anymore, it just wasn't working great for me long term and wasn't consistent.
@northernsky6117
@northernsky6117 3 года назад
Proof is in the pudding. Interesting to see if it makes your ammo more accurate than Dillon750. Make a comparison video👍
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Год назад
I reallybwant one
@mayassa58
@mayassa58 3 года назад
The holy grail
@LonelyRavenProductio
@LonelyRavenProductio 3 года назад
But can it use the 1 1/4" dies like for the .375 CT?
@gtroxlar8597
@gtroxlar8597 3 года назад
yes you can get a turret that will accept the 1 1/4" dies
@fredgoodrum771
@fredgoodrum771 2 года назад
I liked your presentation and information. Regarding the press, it's going to be a pass. It is far too expensive for what it delivers and what is needed.
@davidnelson6603
@davidnelson6603 3 года назад
Why can't I get your Patreon Videos (I'm signed up I thought)
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
They're on Patreon, not RU-vid. When you log in to it you'll see them. It just launched so there's only a couple so far.
@davidnelson6603
@davidnelson6603 3 года назад
@@FClassJohn Thanks John - I thought I was on Patreon. I'd replied to your RU-vid video about it. I'll look again
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
@@davidnelson6603 Ok let men now if you still don't see anything.
@cnturion79
@cnturion79 3 года назад
How’s the o ring holding up inside the shell holder ?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
It only applies a small of pressure directly to the bottom of the shellplate, I can't see it really wearing out anytime soon. The good news is that if it ever needs to be replaced it's super easy to do so.
@85ZERO17
@85ZERO17 3 года назад
WHY THE 720 RES?
@DimaProk
@DimaProk 3 года назад
Chuck Norris press - LOL :)))))))))
@rapidrrobert4333
@rapidrrobert4333 3 года назад
Refreshing to hear "on nitro" instead of on steroids.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
It's the 80''s child in me 🤗
@D.B_Cooper
@D.B_Cooper Год назад
Still $1300 in 2023. I can not see how this is worth it.
@shannonnunn
@shannonnunn 3 года назад
That shit cost way too much money... I will keep using my 50 year old rock chucker with zero run out...
@tcon1479
@tcon1479 3 года назад
What bullet puller is that?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Hornady like this one amzn.to/398H0dm
@DLN-ix6vf
@DLN-ix6vf Год назад
I wish we never invented the word "and"
@blairbreland1443
@blairbreland1443 3 года назад
Doing a review without actually loading a cartridge is useless
@DakotaDinwoodie
@DakotaDinwoodie 3 года назад
8:09 i DIED when you said nano-meter xD xD Here i thought you came from an engineering background, or some higher-education anyway. its a newton-meter, metric version of the foot-pound. Thanks for the thorough review!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Oops I'm an idiot, I honestly didn't even release that's what I said, it slipped.😂
@DakotaDinwoodie
@DakotaDinwoodie 3 года назад
@@FClassJohn haha no worries John! I'm sure there's A lot on the mind while filming a review like this.
@justice1327
@justice1327 3 года назад
What? No gloves!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
I've gotten lazy with them plus so many people really hate on them...😔
@justice1327
@justice1327 3 года назад
@@FClassJohn I use them all the time! I knew a guy who reloaded way back who died of led poisoning! *Just to clarify...he didn’t get shot.
@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369
Well this did not age well
@GGNoble47
@GGNoble47 3 года назад
cost is way too high !!!!
@trpshooter9945
@trpshooter9945 2 года назад
Tons of plain ol iron presses have made sub moa ammo for decades. This is hyper price inflated-marketing designer crap. Totally contrary to the point of the handloader. You'll never make up the cost of the press for the miniscule, immeasurable gain over a $129 Rock chucker. Be glad to put two of these on a bench head to head and reveal no difference in accuracy.
@chrisglover7080
@chrisglover7080 3 года назад
Love ther stuff but way,way,way,way to much money for ther stuff and services
@matthewtracy8744
@matthewtracy8744 3 года назад
$1200?! Yaaaa... I'll use a hammer to seat bullets before I spend that kind of money on a press.
@Russell-1
@Russell-1 3 года назад
Such a fascinating comment.
@matthewtracy8744
@matthewtracy8744 3 года назад
Such an unintelligent reply... smh
@kassilewis5511
@kassilewis5511 3 года назад
I use a slow hammer (arbor press).
@garyjohns4711
@garyjohns4711 3 года назад
NOPE too much money,,, the company wants to recoup all expenses in the first ten presses sold......
@christhegreenman9475
@christhegreenman9475 3 года назад
Nanometer, clearly not a clue what you are talking about
@buick4622
@buick4622 2 года назад
Give us a link to your reloading videos then!
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