I'm an Australian, and I 100% wanted Messi to beat us and go on and win this World Cup. I would've been devastated had we somehow beaten Argentina. And as they pointed out I'm sure there are those in France who felt the same way as did people in Mexico, Poland, Holland and Croatia. That's how beloved Messi is. He has given us, and the game of Football, so much over the years, and aside from Johan Cruyff, I don't think anyone in football history is more deserving of winning a World Cup.
it has its downsides being from a country that is in the final and then wins, but not messi. it all depends on how deep your love to messi is. i didnt celebrate in 2014, in fact, i felt crushed - even with all the euphoria around me. so it is not necessarily a win-win situation. im german btw^^
@@Donalob with the old guard or irish football pundits like Giles Brady Dunphy Joe Kinnear Stapleton Hammann etc it is like a footie talk in a Cafeteria, they have that intensity and that football soul . the Irish understand the human factor of this old game second to none.
Diego Maradona was a larger than life character, a flawed genius, he had his faults but he had extraordinary charisma to go with his ability and so he was always seen as one of them by the Argentine people whereas Leo is essentially a very shy and introverted personality with extraordinary ability. He wasn’t poor growing up, they weren’t poor but they weren’t rich, Messi didn’t choose to be gifted genius, genius chose Messi to embody its grace. The losses as hard as they were for us and by us, I mean all of us that love him (I’m not Argentine) we’re cruel blows to him that we felt too and I think the Argentine people started to realise that he does love us, he is one of us and he is trying his best to win for us and he’s not getting the luck. Messi stuck at it and BOOM, Copa America, Finalemente and now the holy grail, THE WORLD CUP. Your boy did it and he did it for you Argentina because he has always loved his country. He was offered to play for the Spanish national team and he turned it down because he didn’t want to turn his back on his country, that says everything about his loyalty to his country and now look at him, he is a national treasure, the man who finally joined Diego Maradona as Argentina’s favourite son!❤🙏🏻✨🇦🇷🏆👑🐐 Messi is the greatest player ever and that can no longer be denied.
@@robertsmithduarte7732 that is not a crime to do so but either way, Messi belongs now definitively with Pele and Maradona as the absolute greatest players to ever play the game. He did what no one thought he could do and that is be instrumental outside of Barcelona without all those talented midfield players and win tournaments with and for the national team and be decisive. To me he is the greatest player ever, to others Pele or Maradona but in the end, what does it really matter, he has done it all and now no one can say anything at all about his pedigree and I think he would be satisfied enough with that.❤️🙏🏻✨
Best final I seen in my lifetime, and I started watching finals since 1990. Thank you for the memories. Love this channel I always come to it every 2 years for the commentary for World Cup and euros
Come back more frequently. They post the punditry from the Irish channels Chamions' Leage matches. If they post RTE coverage, it's always a similar group and if it's the other Irish channel, at least you get Brian Kerr.
Imagine how Kolo Muani must be feeling. Final minute of extra time, one on one with Martinez, a golden opportunity to write his name in the history books. But that's football.
This is why we love the World Cup.The pinnacle of Football. Club football while it's good is nowhere near the passion, joy, drama, comebacks and shock wins/loss a World Cup match produces. This final had it all, finally sealed the deal that Messi as the actual GREATEST of the one of the greates players ever.
you never get that level of international excitement in club football, whole countries get on the edge of seats..domestic or European leagues, never produces that level of collective emotion..
Great coverage on this channel. Amazing final. 2 best teams in the world by a country mile. The world needed a story like this, great to see something so positive! 🇦🇷🇫🇷🌎
"2 best teams in the world by a country mile". After England you mean. We should really have beaten France and we were all over them in the second half. Had we advanced like we should have, we would have beaten Argentina in the final no probs.
@@simonpitt8145 not being anti English in any way, but no chance. They bottled it against France and will never win anything with that manager. England have a fantastic set of players, but, as always, they’ll be let down by a lack of ambition, being overly cautious. Argentina showed the world how to play outside of the limits of what is actually not a star studded team. Most people outside of England just cannot understand the decision making tbh. Very frustrating to watch when you look at the talent at your disposal.
Interesting view. Bear in mind, however, that whenever England hired exotic high profile managers in the past, like Capello or Eriksson, we flattered to deceive. Southgate has actually got us further in international tournaments than either of those said managers, who both had at least an equally talented a team. So changing managers for someone of supposedly greater status isn't necessarily the guarantor of success. People keep banging on about Guardiola. Really? Someone who fails year after year in the champions league with Man City despite an inordinate amount of money to spend on players - I think Southgate is a better bet to stay at the helm personally.
@@simonpitt8145 i hear you. It’s a difficult one and England have certainly improved. However, I would say that, somewhat like Spain for many years, they are eternally underachieving. I think many people outside of England would say that if they were being honest and not partisan. Southgate seems to react to public and media pressure too much. He included Maddison in the squad due to media pressure, despite never wanting to play him. His choice of Foden also seemed to come out of that kind of pressure. He always seems to be reacting to outside influences which is a downfall in any manager. He has one more tournament now, England have a great chance, but only if he has actually learnt some lessons from the last few tournaments which I’m not sure he has.
@@Patrick-sh9tt I certainly don't subscribe to the theory that Southgate is perfect. His substitutions are not good. Bringing on Grealish with only a minute left of injury time - what was the point of that? And taking Saka off when he was IMHO our most potent attacker just seemed bizarre to me. But I don't believe that changing managers is necessarily going to fix things as if it were the equivalent of waving a magic wand. Why do people always assume this to be the answer to every setback in life? You mention that he responds too much to media pressure. I read this with some interest and I feel there may be some merit in your view. However, perhaps it should be balanced by his decision to stay faithful to Harry Maguire, for whom there was a huge clamour to have him dropped due to his indifferent form at club level. Some people ( I'm looking at you Simon Jordan ) don't believe that Southgate is good enough tactically in that he can't respond to problems as they manifest themselves on the pitch when England are under the rack. Yet he sorted Griezmann out all right for the second half didn't he? This tweak resulted in England's much improved display I am sure.
WE GOT you out of the cage , it was Di maria subbed off later for Paredes, and Macalister out wide left we shoot ourselves we got two penalties against at the final,,, we won it anyway!!!!
@@cecilelpt5808 you are not very fond of football I meant we should have killed off the match before, most french ppl prefer rugby over football, I lived there 4 years, thanks Jerome for wanted Argentina to win,
brilliant argentina won messi won and as a villla fan martinez won, joanne cantwell is brilliant and should be the number 1 presenter for every major soccer tournament and champions league show on irish tv.. absolutely brillant on her commentary and questions to the pundits.
Today, heart and passion won over skills AND arrogance... I am very happy that Messi fulfills his dream (and that of football fans all around the world). Congratulations Argentina, Congratulations Lionel Messi
If you think France missed heart and passion, we didn't watch the same game. France fought till the end. As for skills, the more skilled player of France couldn't participate in the WC and the french team was mainly the B team, which shows their determination for being able to go to the finals. Argentina deserved their win, but why do you feel the need to put down the other team?
@@cecilelpt5808 it took them really Long and the help of Argentina though, the first 75 mins it looked like they thought it was a match at practice and not a world cup final. I really would've been angry as a France supporter at that Moment.
@@HarisKhan-sz2cz Sure, when Messi plays an overall great world cup and leads his Team to the most important trophy of football, then it has to be because of the referee because Ronaldo 🤡
super great final. seemed like it couldnt went to either side. one thing i took was i have a newfound respect for Mbappe. scored a hattrick in gameplay and a pk. nearly danced in a goal in final minutes, and gave a great ball to french player right in front of goal that timed his jump wrong, or else should of been a certain goal...if it were Giroud.
They were the best team in the tornament and deserve to win. But they pannick when they are down. It happened against Saudi and the Dutch. Scaloni made some terrible decisions. Taking off Di Maria was one of them. Putting on Latauro Martinez who is a serial goal misser and taking off Alvarez. Putting on Acuna who brought nothing in attack. Not putting on a central defender after the 1st goal and after immediately after the 3rd goal. But like Pele Maradonna and Zidane Messi seized his moment like all greats.
Scaloni didn't take DiMaria off the team for performance, he did it because DiMaria got injured and could not play. You got it wrong, never once has Argentina panicked, they showed templance and strength at every match. What match did you see? All of his decisions were on point and well founded.
@@JohnyStarkEnglishTeacher we panicked same as w. saudis and dutch, never take out di maria he was weary but 10 more minutes, was then paredes for di maria and macallister the irish on the left wide ,.
@@xavierfranzoia6633 YOU may have panicked, not the Argentina team. They showed absolute composture and might. Di Maria was exhausted and not at his 100%, he was recovering from an injury and the coach considered France wouldn't make much more damage. The rest of the players delivered an outstanding perfomance.
@@JohnyStarkEnglishTeacher but we almost shoot in the foot, if you are conservative you get pegged back, acuña or better Dybala o Angel Correa, or Alvarez on the left and Lautaro up front,. we got out of the cage ,
@pete 1 we never assumed ,Cerezo slack casual ,careless pass was the face of the goal was sucide ,Rossi pounced we were also done by corrupt referee decision ,zico being rugby tailed in the penalty box ,his entire shirt torn in half and no penalty, socrates scoring a legitimate second goal ,Brazil were robbed
@@aarifboy Mbappe already has WC at 19 , where was pessi And Doo Doo Maria at 19? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is his 2nd attempt And got Golden boot ,Silver ball And runners up awards in this WC. 12 WC goals in 14 matches at just 23 years remember that 🤫🤫🤫🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Liam Brady is a super connoisseur of the beautiful game a glory player in Italy alongside Maradona and Platini, the Irish #10 playmaker. The Irish are the best to discuss football educational yet always some funny remarks for the craic. Duff and Given and the german dude are great. I miss the old guard of Giles, Dunphy and Liam Brady, briilant football Irish people
Because our pundits don’t analyze the game They just say general things that anyone off the street can say let’s be honest No tactics analysis, nothing
@@xavierfranzoia6633 cuz the audience cannot understand thee things because they’ve never played I’ve never played but I’ll want to learn more about the game rather than constant debate on who the GOAT is 🥱
And not an LGBT flag in sight. RTE constantly crying for LGBT propaganda while normal people wanted football. Just look back how many times this channel was trying to push LGBT propaganda for the past month
Happy to see a new champ. However, soccer(football) is so flawed with all the calculated penalties + theatrics. Killing a counterattack should be an instant yellow but refs are too scared to actually get control of the game. It’s certainly not the beautiful game imo
Of course, a lot of people in Fra wanted Arg to win. Let's face it Fra for all their talent became a joke with their faceoff with Morocco. France knows it but we have to see Mbappe in the final even if we have to bring politics into it. And nobody can tell me Morocco was duly rewarded for the two fouls in the box by the dirty French. The referee played the whistle as though nothing happened. But the problem is Morocco has been outstanding all tournament and was a big injustice from a neutral perspective to see them get robbed like that. One was where the Mor player was completely chopped in the box and the other was where a Mor player wanted to jump up in the air to meet a cross in the box and had his opponent's arms all over him as well as rugby tackled to the ground. You can't just ignore those two incidents and then give three penalties in the final. It's crook on a big, big scale. You can't even get past it. I mean I am surprised that Sheik Mohammed of Qatar didn't tell the two finalists to take it somewhere else. Have the finals in Lebanon. It's robbery and finally, no one pities that Fra lost for the reason they looked 2nd best in their semi, that's no joke. Also, I shouldn't forget Argentina...big congrats. At least you got the job done😉
Let's put things in perspective, a healthy and loaded Argentinian team barely beat a injured French team that had just come out of a health scare. Argentina won, great game, but as a team they are not ranked up there with other world beating teams.
😂🤣 You are on something!! Argentina is much better, France had everybody. NO EXCUSES! Also, the only reason they strugled was because Scaloni took out Di Maria, otherwise this would have never happened. This should have been Argentina's easiest game all WC. Also France doesn't have a midfield only wings, and their defense is bad. France finally played a real team this WC. Get this right, nobody is better than Argentina and Brazil.
So we're all gonna pretend that Qatar Saint Germain has NOT treated Argentina with kid gloves since they were demolished by Saudi Arabia? It got to the point we were all betting how quickly a penalty would be given to Messi. Argentina are a dirty team who barely get a lick of the red cards they should. I don't know where the hell France was last night. I get the team got sick but I know one thing - Mbappe showed me who the GOAT is. Not since Maradona have I seen such a display of one-man brilliance. Unlike his teammates, he did his penalty homework. Maradona is looking down on Mbappe with awe. Messi who? Oh, the guy that needed all the help in the world via Qatar Saint Germain to finally raise the cup. Very apt the goalie used the glove near his crotch as they were handed this tournament.
Today fifa and Messi have just lost my considération. The first penalty given to Argentina wasn't a fault. France had a penalty in the last five minutes of the extra time, the referee has ignored. At the end, the third goal of Argentina was an offside in the action before the one led to the goal
France got 2 penalties to Argentina's 1. Argentina won fair and square. If the idea was to give Argentina the world cup the referee wouldn't have given France a penalty at the end of extra time.
Argentina had its best and France its worst game in the final, and even so the Argis needed penalties. Except Messi this team is mediocre. It says all lot about the quality of this WC.... simply terrible. There were 3 good games: the final, France-England and Spain-Germany. Let us be realistic.
