Arizona GOP leaders mistakenly leak abortion plan 

I hate to say it, but if not for the arrogance and overreaching of the lgbtq community, the presidency, house, and senate would be blue.

​@@thec9424 "Overreaching"??? Like the queer community can even hold a candle to GOP overreach.😂

@@beetlebob4675 ...is that a reach-around joke?

@@Eldeecue It could be, but the GOP would cancel me for it. So. It's Schrödinger's reach-around.

@@thec9424 You mean all the hundreds of anti-queer bills being proposed in state legislation?? Are you talking about THAT acceptance??

Half of the country has no problem with the GOP.

@@johnbrowneyes7534Wrong! GOP has only 1/4 of the voters. Independents will eviscerate all GOP politicians & ballot initiatives in November!

Arizona Mirror did an article on it ; so did Laurie Roberts of AZCentral. You're right, though, the story is not well-known.

​@@johnbrowneyes7534I sure do.

We need to get this to Pakman!

The GOP long for the days when wealth could buy you a godhead, and lack thereof = serfdom or worse. A time when lack of a dangling member meant you were less than a goat or chicken in the eyes of the "legal system".

And it's even technically in our Constitution... smh

They think the Renaissance was a mistake.

abortion is technically illegal in germany....

Concerned your last sentence didn't finish with a question mark--uh oh.

If they really cared about children, they wouldn't vote against free lunch programs for low income kids

@dennischristopher9952 oh I know. I couldn't get an abortion but I am fighting with the pro-choicers because it doesn't stop at abortion, ivf, contraception, fertility treatments. Who knows where it ends. If you give into pro-choice time and time again they compromise with a 24 week ban and good faith clauses for doctors.

They'd have the vote off women if they could.

@Mark They are already talking about the 19th. See also Project 2025.

@fantym1633 gilead, here we come.

In THIS case, just the names change. You are STILL going to be voting on abortion, duh. Just that to keep abortion safe and available, we've first got to vote OUT those who tried this trick... One step at a time wins the race...

Never trust a republican ever again.

Amen vote blue💙

It is incumbent upon the voter to do enough research to make a decision that will end up being best for them

@@RevCeleste So falling for Republican trickery is the voters' fault?

They want to make it as confusing as possible

If voters were educated there wouldnt be any gop party

​@@narda1072 that's not true; Republicans don't have a majority of support anywhere but the elections are rigged in any number of ways. Blaming the people is doing the Reps' work for them.

Incompetence or malice? Or just a nice mixture of both?

Is it possible that they leaked it on purpose as a strategy?

Kind of like mystery thousands of votes showing up in the middle of the night out of nowhere when losing

Democrats would know all about this, as we've seen over the past 10 years. But, you wouldn't know this.

​@@ml-jt6eg I'm sure all that evidence will drop any day now, right? Mike Pillow will come to the rescue!

@@ml-jt6eg Making up nonsense doesn't make it a thing.

@@ml-jt6eg the👏🏻election👏🏻was👏🏻not👏🏻stolen.

Not sure you understand what illegal means

@tesladrew2608 It IS illegal. The 13th Amendment absolutely applies.

13th has nothing to do with your point. I get that you’re trying to say that women are slaves now but no not legally, it’s something else. More like dehumanized breeder. The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified on December 6, 1865 and abolished slavery. The amendment states that slavery and involuntary servitude are prohibited in the United States and its territories, except as a punishment for a crime. The amendment also gives Congress the power to enforce the amendment through legislation.

@@Handle70770 it is the 14th amendment which the SCOTUS ruled protected abortion by name. So banning abortion actually WAS ILLEGAL until the Facists came to power

All rights come from humans. All rights can be granted or taken away. Legality is when the laws are passed, not whether anyone agrees with them on moral grounds.

No,

@@terib470BC AZ GOP aren’t pro-life. They are just anti-abortion!

Nope

And are they going to start regulating sperm?????? Unregulated sperm cause pregnancies.

@homerroad yeah why not put a switch on the vas deferens instead of taking away bodily autonomy? That way there is absolutely no way to even have a pregnancy unless the male wants one.

@@ceresdog5362 Exactly my thought. Republicans can be characterised mainly by lies and criminality. They think they should not have to obey the rules they want everyone else to obey.

GOP = Grifters Only Party

Cause the DNC has never lied, deceived, or done anything criminal. Go be emotional somewhere else

A fundamental misunderstanding of terminology and ideology. Low information voters are lured into the trap.

They also conflate communism (econimic system of government running companies), socialism (social system of people helping people), and fascism (economic system of companies/corporations running government).

There's a recent video of Newt Gingrich stating that the average voter in that particular party has a third grade education. That's exactly how little respect that party has for its constituents. They've even convinced those people that being well educated is a bad thing.

Its a bit more complex. It is a deliberate strategy of equivocation, a well-known fallacy used in propaganda. By deliberately switching definitions without clear indication, you can pretend someone advocating for universal healthcare is advocating for Stalinist pogroms to impose communism, and that agreeing not to have Stalinist pogroms to impose communism means you agree there should be no universal healthcare. From Merriam Webster: (1) any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods (for example the NHS in Britain I suppose) (2) a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism. I myself have used it just to describe social democracy: eg taxation to pay for social safety nets. Im going to avoid that because I think it is too fuzzy and too easily twisted.

I wish when they throw these terms out while speaking in front of the cameras ,-" sir can you define that term" . Then maybe a whole lot of news folks don't know their definition 😢

democrats re defined women with male penis so what exactly is women’s rights

Women's rights? You mean murderer's rights.

Abortion is not a right. The body of the baby is not your body.

Women don't have human rights in Arizona.

10-20% Pregnancies result in a miscarriage in the United States. A primary treatment for miscarriage is an abortion. Abortion is a necessary procedure for the health and safety of women.

​@@gabrielfair724 I want to know who she's calling moderate saying everyone agreed with the 15 week ban. 66% of Arizonans disapproved of the 15 week ban. That means more than 2 to 1 on Arizonans thinking the 15 week ban was too far. With 49% of Arizonans believe it should be legal in all or most cases (which is the majority with 46% saying it should be illegal in most or all cases). So these Moderates who support the 15 week ban represent less than 33% of Arizonans.. how is that Moderate?

@@gabrielfair724 I’ve heard that the rate was higher than that. Closer to 50%. But maybe it’s only 10 to 20% that need medical intervention.

@gabrielfair724 you do realize that removing a miscarried baby is not illegal and is not an abortion at that point. Your trying to misrepresent something to try and get people to agree with you.

That law also made 10 years old the age of consent.

Good ol’ Arizona. I used to live there as a kid. This is also the state where resident psycho sheriff, Joe Arpaio, bragged about making prisoners wear pink specifically to humiliate them…he also purposely made sure that the prison dogs had better food and air conditioning, while the prisoners slept in bunk tents in 120 degree desert heat. He really thought it was funny. That place is STILL the Wild, Wild West…fr.

@@johnniemcbride2772Good Lord

Why does a law being old necessarily make it a bad law? The constitution and most of the bill of rights is even older.

@@gregorymalchuk272 I explained EXACTLY why it was a bad law in my first post: because it was made with next to ZERO knowledge of medicine and the human body. Ignoring truth makes your argument worse, not better.

No thx. I’ve seen how blue is ruining America already so I’d like to keep my state from becoming California

Vote out every democrap out of every office.

When was the last time you had sex?

Is there even a chance of flipping the state house blue??

@@RLucas3000 There is. They have a narrow majority, and they're sitting on their laurels on that alone.

💙💙💙💙

If you asked me a month ago, I would’ve thought that trump had the election in the bag. Not anymore, they really fumbled.

And totally unsurprising. Alas.

@@workingmamma5342AZ voters have to turn out & show AZ GOP where they truly stand. Don’t give into the GOP BS ballot initiatives!

Rule don't represent is their motto.

Surprise! Surprise! Who would have thought a bunch of God fearing Christians would lie?

@@SweetJustice11 They pretend to eat the flesh and drink the blood of their savior and the symbol of their religion is a torture device.

They figured out a long time ago that most people don't actually bother to check up on their actions, so they can just mouth focus-tested feel good platitudes, and then just do whatever once they're in office. That's why they went to so much trouble to limit and discredit reporting - the news was one of the few groups that would report on what they actually DID. So they made a propaganda network and spent a lot of time convincing people that "all other news is lies" and "We are the only ones you can trust, the network that argued in court that it wasn't actually news so it didn't have to be factual"

Excellent comment!

GOP is the party of Putin so no coincidence.

This is the reason BTC, ROF, Pakman, Beau, MT, etc are out performing MSM - We The People WANT the actual facts ⚖️

Demoralization initiated!

@garotadaggave,, Grow up, and stop YOUR childish whining, Babyboy, YOU sound like a LIBTARD Burnout.

@@saminaneen "YOU sound like a LIBTARD Burnout" is the funniest thing I've read in a long time, especially coming from a child's gaming channel lmao

​@@saminaneenget off your knees and wipe your mouth.

I would argue that they are the people's worst enemy, but I understand your point.

I kind of feel like they are tho, 66% of Arizonans opposed the 15 week ban.. which she tried to frame as the Moderate position that everyone agreed with.

When they see "the people", they imagine a "normal" white Christian male. Those are the real Americans, to them.

When they say “we’re a republic not a democracy” they mean “theocratic republic” like Iran

"bUt If You MaKe DeciSiOnS BasEd oN 51% oF vOtERS yoUrE stEamRolLinG EvEryOneE ElSe!!1!1!1" Oh really greg please tell me more about how silencing minorities is bad. No really please go on I just think we have different minorities in mind in that your 'minority' is you and a bunch of other random dudes who will never have to deal with the consequences of your idiotic choices. Please continue.

Ask Republicans.

How is democracy authoritarianism?

@@gregorymalchuk272 , BuT We'Re A RePuBlIc NoT a DeMoCrAcY?!? Weasel POS!

@4014Thugsy, Yes, YOU, are out of touch, with reality, and a racist.

It’s not “out of touch”, because that implies that they don’t know what going on in the minds of the voter. They know EXACTLY what the voters what. And they’ve created a plan to keep the voters from getting it. It’s insidious that they even have a psyop style plan of attack to dilute and confuse the voters. It’s not out of touch. It’s very in touch with what the GOP has been doing for decades. Confuse, dilute, muddy the waters, blame the other, all the while they are overturning rights screaming it’s the Dems. It’s the Dems, the communist, wants to take your rights away. As they continue to spewing Russian propaganda on the house floor, to further divide this country. The Maga crowd has been screaming for a Civil War for decades and now they are useful idiots to Putin and Xi. And if the rest of us don’t get our heads out of this confusing state the Maga will do the bidding of Putin and destroy us from the inside. They aren’t out of touch, if anything they are more in touch with how to control and manipulate the masses than you and I will ever realize.

Does this mean that your uncle, a murderer who escaped prison and gets you pregnant... that you are forced to have this child?

I am new here and can not wait to vote against the GOP Gozar is my rep and he make me want to puke.

@@mr.v3061 ...yes, the 1864 law gives no exceptions for rape or incest.

@@daniellow655 Something to know: Gosar's family is telling everyone who will listen that he's crazy.

I hate that MFer and I hate living in this state. I can't wait to move. And I'm a military brat who's lived all over, this state is the worst. ​@daniellow655

Yep!

People are still dumb

Woman in Arizona don't deserve this!!!!!

This issue should also do wonders for Ruben Gallego, and Dems' chances of getting control of the AZ state legislature.

​@serendipityshopnyc Let's see if "independents" get it right this time around. There is nothing wrong with being it, I consider myself to be one, but I won't vote Republican in almost any curcunstance anylonger. I will never understand a pro-choice Independent who votes Republican. Republicans will never stop pandering to anti-choice folks in the near future. Simply because if they do it, they lose money support and votes from those who make up a substantial chunk of the electorate and their base: religious zealots. Therefore, you ARE NOT reigning them in voting them out in an election cycle if you come around and vote them again in 2026. They also know this, that's why they don't hesitate to create anti-choice laws up to the last consequences. At most, they will soften their position when it becomes too unbearable, just as in an election year, but they will come back around again when the storm has passed. Therefore, stop voting for them altogether, for goodness's sake. Otherwise, we will always have to be fighting to be able to make the most personal decisions about ourselves. As I said, theyll never stop. Not even state constitutional amendments passed in order to protect the procedure are immune from their shenanigans: they will find a looophole here and there to put hurdles in it, thus pandering again to religious nuts. We need to create a decades lose-streak for them in Congress just as there were from (1954-1980) and Presidency as well. Vote blue until that party reborns itself from the ashes; don't believe anything they may say unless they put "I support a woman's choice to perform an abortion if she so chooses at least in the first 15 weeks" in their official platform and take official action to repeal laws who do not conform to it. Vote blue every race everywhere this year and beyond.

But they claim everyone agrees with their “common sense” regulations 😒

Party of Limited Government, Party of Family Values, Party of Personal Responsibility ALL MARKETING

That was 40 years ago , old slogan.

True. They don't care. Obvious pure hate is driving them. I say allow them to be gay is they hate women so much.

@justinpoland1137, Because YOU do not know the defining of a "woman", Babyboy.

@@saminaneen A woman is anyone who will never have anything to do with a deplorable like you.

Somebody’s getting fired…LOL

😂😂😂

@@justinpoland1137 Perhaps someone 'accidentally' sent the email to the wrong location.

It's exactly what they are after.

@snovismom,,, It is like YOU say ALL the time, Babygirl, "TRUMP 2020"< MEGA is the greatest, and FJB, thank YOU.

I thought so too.

Oh, well, I thought it was weird the way he so calmly said 'two faced plan'. I'm not going back to watch the 'two phased plan' version. It's bad enough already.

How is SS or Medicare a woman's issue and not a man's issue?

Also Republicans that are not in line with these extremist views.

@@TJ-mc8uh A larger percentage of elderly people are women, but it does affect both. Social security also provides benefits to widows and widowers.

@yungsmile7546, VOTING has NEVER counted ever, you silly Burnout.

@Gofckurself247 No, I think it's VERY STUPID the Arizona Supreme court could uphold a law from that time.

No😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Also, mixed (e.g. black and white) marriages were also illegal.

The same 1864 law code said that a TEN-YEAR-OLD girl was old enough to consent to marriage.

@@ChristyKRobinson Sounds like Alabama.

18th Century

@@garrybest3534 Ouch, seems there will be a market for sundials and sand filled hour glasses. Probably a resurgent leather and fur business boom along with a return of seamstress and blacksmithing jobs.

and never anything about the beatitudes.

And they can't even get the correct ten commandments in place!

Thank G-d they are tying my tubes in October.

@@CovenoftheOpenMind Great for you, thinking of yourself through all of this.

@@vapx0075 someone has to think of me, and the government isn't going to do it. What is the point of this statement? I also think the restrictions are bad, and how do you think I plan to vote in this election? I am also happy to be almost done with child rearing because I am afraid of how others will vote. Of course I am thinking about me. I am currently in a life threatening pregnancy and my doctor's say I won't survive another one. People ought to think of themselves, genius. They ought to think of others too, but you can't take care of anyone if you don't take care of yourself.

Therein lies the beauty of holding power. They commit no end of felonies but no one would ever prosecute, especially spineless democrats.

Could we forward this to someone like Legal Eagle or someone else that cares and has similar powers to complain?

Just something tragically poetic about people who don't vote. If you don't vote, that means you don't care what either party does with things that directly impacts you, your family and your community. If you're a leftist and you don't vote, that's saying (at the point it actually counts) that you don't care if the reds get into power and reduce human rights, reduce your social security,,reduce your access to healthcare and increase the animosity between members of your community.

We can trust them to lie. I don't think they're capable of honesty anymore.

Worse yet, the Republican and MAGA hypocrites don't know a thing about the bible. In the New Testament Jesus and the bible writers emphasize again and again that Christians are not to be any part of this world, Jesus' kingdom is not of this world, etc. Yet these Republicans and white Christian Nationalists want to turn America into a "Christian" nation, in direct violation of the New Testament. The anti-abortion movement started out as a white supremacist movement, and was turned into a religious crusade by power-hungry authoritarians opposed to freedoms for minorities and women.

@benniecleveland7092, It is like YOU say ALL the time, Bennie, "TRUMP 2024"< MEGA is the greatest, and FJB, thank YOU.

Vote Blue stay true to America 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

Correction, it isn't 'surprising'. AZ people need to be aware of what they will be facing when they get to the polling station before they get to the station. Remember, don't be so selfish and expect everyone to know as much as you do. That kind of attitude won't help anyone.

​@@vapx0075it is fair to say that some people aren't understanding what is at stake. It is not the fault of my pro democracy attitude that feelings are hurt.

That was the slogan 40 years ago .

Right, government small enough to fit in a woman's uterus.

Now they want Trump as dictator. They want to control all of us.