A shorter piece again whilst I get things back in order but a very fun moment I wished to cover! Not doing a butchered attempt at the TTS Sicarius voice here took a large amount of willpower! More longer form content coming soon, if you enjoyed this please do like, comment and subscribe as it helps a lot! My thanks for watching!
If you had done this whole section to the high standard you normally read to only to slip in the TTS Sicarius with 0 warning I might have passed out with laughter.
Scenes like this are why I love the returned Guilliman as a character. He is the only person in the Imperium who both remembers how the Imperium once was and who is allowed to talk about it without being immediately shot for heresy.
That honestly gives me an idea, guilliman speaking to a group of variable people from an inquisitor to a common citizen telling them how the imperium was at his time and how the emperor was
they can not cause there are at least the same amount of people trying to shot the one that is trying to shot the big blue. Even the high lord of the assassination stuff worked against the other highlords rebellion. @@breadogi7118
I like how the ending sentence sort of implies Gulliman thought he had a good sense of humour and that the lack of it being recorded and instead the history books seeing him as a dull pencil pusher seems to hurt him harder than it should. The guy just wants a little fun.
Makes sense TBH. The Remembrancers were sent to embellish the Primarchs and Imperial Great Crusade. They probably didn't record him being funny since that would tarnish the image they wanted for a godlike warlord.
Homie's basically solo carrying the Imperium right now, or at least part of it Dante has the other half. Id want to have as much fun as possible too in his place
Cato: Sometimes, lord guilliman was found meditating at his desk, with close eye, leaning back to his chair & occasionaly swinging his head up an down silently and gracefully. Guilliman: listening to Rammstein
If I woke up in 10000 and found out that not only was I somehow a historical figure but that the only thing anyone bothered to remark on was how good I was at Excel, I would also be a little bitter.
The marines of 41K: I wonder what grand schemes and plots the Lord Regent has on his mind, surely they must be wonderous and terrifying to behold... Guilliman's actual thoughts: Throne of Terra, I need a coffee, to scratch my ass and a bath, in that order.
Loyal primarchs telling joke. - Sanguinius enters a room and tells a joke. Whole room laughs. They demand more. - Vulkan tells a joke but it is full of references that only his sons would understand. - Random ceiling coolant falls and kills a servitor. Corvus groans "Throne, I wish that was me..." - Lion tells a joke. It is a good joke but nobody laughs. - Jagathai tells the same joke but louder. Everyone laughs. - Russ tells a joke. It's not a good joke and he burst into laughter halfway through telling it. People laugh because of the way he said it. - Ferus tells a joke but only Fulgrim laughs at it. He tells it again, despite people wanting him not to. - Guilliman tells dad jokes. Exclusively. The room is divided between cringe silence, few chuckles and one, very loud laghter by a Harlequin who somehow slipped inside the room. - Dorn tells a joke. Refuses to leave. Elaborates.
Magnus tells a joke. No one laughs, a Rubric falls over, breaking its armor seal and spilling dust everywhere. The other Rubrics begin to cough uncontrollably, not because they have lungs, but because Tzeench was also telling a joke
I like that Sicarius would die for Guilliman but bending down and helping him pick up his papers is seemingly a task below a space marine lord so instead he offers to summon a servant. To be fair he might have been unable to do so as well.
That would be a fun animation, two absolute specimens clad in ancient masterpiece armour struggling to pick up a piece of paper because they can't bend at the waist or cross their arms over their mid-line. (the Codex Astartes probably covers this situation, hence the servant)
@@wooptydo6241 Marine power armor is flexible enough to allow near-unencumbered movement for the wearer in combat. That said, I don't think its that precise to pick up a man-sized paper or pen. This is usually why they're accompanied by chapter serfs or servo skulls during administrative functions.
Sicarius: Humor is not something you are renowned for, my lord. Guilliman: Do you mean to tell me that second book I penned: "The Codex Jokestartes", was never put into print?
I love the implication hat Guilliman was recorded in Imperial records as a die-hard data analyst purely because despite having a sense of humor, said humor was lame even during the Horus Heresy to the point of no one wanting to remember him for it. And then he came back only to find that still no one appreciates his attempts at humor.
It's nice to see Gulliman getting some character growth and development. Also the mental image of a towering demi-god who once helped conquer the galaxy struggling to pick up basic office supplies off the floor and grumbling all the while will never not be funny.
@@adarshkamoda9183I often see comments like “just spat my coffee out”, but this comment genuinely did have me cause a mess as I tried to drink my coffee
Just imagine how weird this must be for Space Marines, especially the Ultramarines. Your father has been in stasis for 10,000 years, you've seen his mortally wounded body, you have been psycho-indoctrinated to be humorless and completely loyal, you have fallen into the worship of the Emperor and Guilliman, and then one day he gets up and cracks the most groan worthy dad jokes of all time. It must be surreal for them.
just wait until Big E gets up off his own glorified life support chair and drops every swear in the long lost book when he finally gets to scratch his nose
I like that the entire empire all think that Guilliman just sit alone in his room writing his deep thoughts and reform, while in actuality he’s thinking of a funny joke, but sadly it’s too complicated for most that only Rogal Dorn understands.
It just goes to show how dehumanized space marines are in this era while in the Horus Heresy they would’ve joined on the joke with him, he must miss making jokes with his sons and brothers so much😢
Luckily many of the Chaos Space Marines have kept their humour, although many of them are the same individuals of the Great Crusade/Horus Heresy. One of my favourite bits of humour is the Emperor's Children battle cry, still shouted even in M42: "Children of the Emperor, death to His foes!"
Sicarius: I, CATO SICARIUS, THE BEST SWORDSMAN OF ULTRAMAR, HAVE MASTERED THE ART OF HUMOUR LIKE EVERY OTHER ART, AND DOUBT YOU CAN TEACH ME ANYTHING, BUT I, CATO SICARIUS, GREATEST HERO OF MCCRAGGE, WILL OBEDIENTLY LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MY PRIMARCH Guilliman: Now I understand Calgar, that poor miserable bastard...
Right !!! I mean when he's not cowering from covax....also the g man doesn't need the armor anymore but still I bet logar is still cry/laughing and nothing he had a hand In its kinda his character Woops I forgot this is a joke lol
Lorgar is too busy wondering if betrying his blood brothers was a good decision or not to laugh. Also, Alpharius allows him to chuckle, lasttime I saw, Lorgar was his bitch.
What I find so funny is that I remember the time before Guilliman's revival. He was regarded as an almost universally hated character, a Mary Sue with no personality beyond "Good At Everything" and insufferably smug. It wasn't until after his revival that everyone realized that there was a likeable person there, it was just that all anyone ever recorded was the greatness, leaving nothing of the man behind it all. As mentioned here, the humanizing details were left out of the histories.
I wouldn't say his revival, the Ultramarines became cool again after Know No Fear. The whole Mary Sue Guilliman thing was because of Matt Ward. The revival just brought him to the fore of the setting, but yeah people did take a shine to Guilliman when he came back and people realized how "human" he is. I think I like Guilliman for a similar reason I like Superman: They're both just Dudes x1000. Dudes x1000 who do not hesitate to fight godlike powers beyond Space and Time, or the evils within mankind, or mighty armies.
@@sr.favopossodeixarvaziosim4595 Yeah, Know No Fear puts him near the top of my list of primarchs. It's almost sad that I don't think many other primarchs get the time and energy Guilleman gets to breathe and become human.
It amuses me that for all of Cawl's genius in forging the armour of fate, he didn't think to give Roboute any kind of gripping gloves or rubberised finger pads since he wouldn't be able to just take off his gauntlets.
On the bright side, this mean s Guilliman can reuse all his best jokes. Thought for the day: Do you think Guilliman would find humour in all the funny names we give him?
Damn the image of Guilliman bumbling around the place as if he was wearing Michael Keaton's original batsuit is just too funny and poor guy that Guilliman having that knucklehead Sicarius as his audience there, rather than getting comfort and familiarity from him his presence probably made him thought for the 100th time that day "Why the F I am still alive? Oh Commander Dante I understand you so much, I too wish some of that eternal rest."
Guy Haley is the perfect writer for Guilliman. He manages to really make Rob feel like a person and I hope he's the one to write the reunion between The Lion and Rob.
Lion el'Johnson: My sons, I warn you: Once we meet each other, please, try to laugh, a little at least, over my brother's lame jokes... He is quite sensible about his humor sense. He believes himself funny.
I do like having Sicarius there as a sort of foil, where the demi-god ends up seeming like the more human one. To be fair to him I believe this is after a trip in the warp where he returned seemingly Not fully cognizant. Though I suppose he was never a barrel of laughs before that either. Thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvoSicarius has PTSD from his experience in the warp. He still hears his men screaming in agony and fear as the daemons devoured them. Seeing marines become afraid is part of what did it. Sheer panic from battle brothers he's known for decades. It's not outright stated that he has it but it's implied in one of the Plague Wars books.
Listening to Guilliman crack a joke is like having a majorly important historical figure crack a joke to you. You get so caught up in everything they did, you sometimes forget to stop and remember that they’re human too.
On that subject, Mozart was a person known for making not just humor but Incredibly crude humor as well, something his musical pop culture reputation doesn’t really emphasize. The man wrote musical diss tracks, a six part vocal song about licking a##, and jokingly writes insulting notes to his musicians within his scores. I know it’s not 40k, but it does illustrate your point about the person behind the persona
if uriel ventris was there he would have got the joke and i could see him saying something like "shall i fetch the priest my lord and have those flimsies burned for heresy" then they both laugh
Great work as always! Warhammer being self aware of some of its ridiculousness is always funny, but this scene also has some truth in reality. I wonder what's been lost on our own historical figures because it was either known to too few or not deemed worth the parchment to record?
Thank you very much! and I do rather like the more human looks at the Primarchs too. With the amount of fun historical tidbits about famous real life figures already out there I can only imagine the amount of that sort of information that we have lost, it must be staggering. Thanks for watching!
Fun historical fact: The US used its first submarine in combat, the turtle, during the american revolution. It didnt sink anything, but the random explosion in the water did scare off a british warship.
the only times we get instances of humour from properly the most well-known people from 2000 years ago, like Caeser and Cicero, were just building points for their speeches to a senate or army. its sad I would love to read the just everyday conversations of these men and the powerful rulers like pre 1700s
@@cassandrabelyeu2419 The armour of fate functions as a life support machine. When freshly recovered, Guilliman was still mortally wounded, and so needed to stay in it for a while (He can leave it now)
Guilliman fights against countless armies. Defeats foes so terrible that it would send mortal men insane at the mere sight of such horrors. He has fought several Primarch brothers at the same time, surviving (only just) to tell the tale about it. He has been asleep for eons, only to be awoken in the middle of a warzone, waking up in such a foul mood that whe he did wake...the room trembled with gaze. Terrifying Chaos Berserkers... Legendary Roboute Guillinan aka Lord Commander of The Imperium, commander of the Greatest armies humanity had ever produced since the DAOT.....defeated, by a piece of plastic and an ill fitting gauntlet 🤦🤣🤣
Im just imagining Sicarius in the corner like: "uhhh do want me to uhhh....?" "No dont help me! I can do it myself!.......by the.....almost......throne damnit"
out of all the characters in the 40k universe, guilliman is the one i feel the most sympathy for. 10k years have passed and the universe as he knew it is gone and all that remains is a nightmarish hell that he cant escape from all the while lamenting what had become of his fathers work. truly a tragic character and fate.
I like how the primarchs and Big E are written when it comes to levity. They are so far removed from even their own sons that humor and simply smiling can be scary at times. I remember the Lion cracked a joke about being able to count to 30 and the space marine he said it to was scared he was going to die.
I always thought of Guilliman being more of a stoic introvert, a man that was always calm and seemingly cold but was really a kind and compassionate person who would always poke fun and would be sarcastic behind closed doors, around trusted friends, or on the rare occasions when the luxury allowed itself The kind of man you would have guessed to be a dick but was really a nice guy, even if only by the standards of 40k of course😅
Armour of Fate is always one of my favorite 42k pieces of writing, since it's basically just taking the piss about Matt Ward and a bunch of his more, asinine Ultramarines works. All it'd need to go further would be to call Kaldo Draigo a dumb schmuck and have someone make fun of the words "Spiritual Liege" and it'd be complete.
I like how this scene makes light of how horribly impractical and over-ornamented such much of Space Marine armour really is and that the Armour of Fate was designed primarily to look impressive, rather than actually be practical at all.
Guilliman is my second favorite Primarch and he is the second Primarch I got in Horus Heresy Legions, so this is some good fluff. "Never wish for danger. Danger needs no help" "What does not kill me. Is not trying hard enough"
Honestly I prefer this to the depictions of him as a warrior, to a point. I know it's warhammer 40K but pieces like this really make it human. He IS human. He CAN laugh.
Even in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is room for humour. Seriously, the apothecary in the Ultramarines movie making a quip about having a loaded bolter saved the film for me.
Okay I could not help but laugh at that last comments my god, it so weird but funny hearing the most tactical straight man of the primarchs tell a joke, then have that reaction of a comment to them XD
The massive double eagle on Dorn's shoulders was a joke everyone enjoyed at his expense. Dorn - "What's so funny?" Sigismund and Pollux - "Nothing My Lord!" in unison.
Humor is something 40K is sorely missing. Entire novels go on without a single line of even dark humor, and even in the most grimdark of situations people always attempt to make light of it.
I remember when i was assigned to a desk job at a previous base, i was required to get into full chem gear for an exercise. We still had to do paperwork in full chem gear, vest, and helmet, including thick rubber gloves over thinner white cotton ones. Humorously, we had to type with a pencil in each hand to hit each key while actual papers became a mess like in this story. One of the most hilarious yet mind bendingly frustrating moments in my career.
"I cato sicarius have noticed that our omnipotent primarch has possibly made a joke that I cato sicarius I am all too willing to giggle at for I am cato sicarius!"
If Guiliman wants to know why the Imperium is in such bad state he only needs to watch what happens to anyone _else_ who dares make a joke on seeing a literal superhuman who cannot manage to pick up paper. 😎
can imagine him reading history books and coming across himself a few times and being like "thats a not what i said" or "thats not what happened at all" and having a bit of a chuckle at them
The Armour of Fate short story and this segment had me cracking up 😂 Such an entertaining read. I love Uncle Gilly. He's my favorite next to Sanguinius
You hit some and you miss some both by joke and reputation tbf I’d be confused too as dealing with such a figure Laughter can be seen as good or insulting as a Warrior who’s so inhuman in 40K or even as a regular Human same with the Custodes
I feel him. So hard. I wear Mandalorian armour on a pretty regular basis. It is all fun and games until the torso plating goes on. There may be gaps, but due to the large surface of the hard plates, they are useless. It makes it neigh impossible to grab anything below the hip. I like to have my daughter with me just in case I have to pick up a pen or a bottle on the floor. As you also wear rather thick gloves, dexterity with these things is...mediocre. As a real Mando you carry a gauntlet with an entire armory on both of your forearms, these also cannot be removed without major effort to remove your thick, often also armored leather gloves. It may look cool, but practicality...oh boy.
Traitor Primarchs Tell Jokes: - Horus tells a fart joke. Everyone laughs. - Mortarian tells a self-deprecating joke. His sons laugh uncomfortably, and Mortarian broods later about it. - Perterabo tells a joke that is actually just “Fuck Rogal Dorn”. His sons laugh bitterly. - Magnus tells a joke that requires thousands of hours of studying Prosperan mythology and warpcraft in order to understand. Nobody laughs but Tzeentch. - Alpharius tells a joke. It awakens a secret code phrase inside the legion that makes them laugh. It is secretly an elaborate set of orders for the upcoming battle. - Konrad Kurze holds up a skinned child and jokes about it. His sons don’t laugh but some think it is funny anyway. - Lorgar only tells versions of “A priest walks into a bar” jokes. They aren’t funny at all. Erebus laughs every time. - Fulgrim tells a joke but it has so much prose and too many dramatic pauses it ruins the timing of the joke. Ferrus thinks it’s hilarious and wants to hear it again. - Angron tells a joke. His sons are too busy killing to notice. - Omegon tells a joke. Alpharius laughs.
