Uriel Ventris meets Roboute Guilliman 

Especially after his realization that he was a tool for the Emperor, and the revelation that, that fact is irrelevant.

I would say that this is an astute and accurate statement. Gilliman was always more....."Human" than his brothers. Hell, most of the Primarchs were no more than biological superwaepons designed and made by a Tyrant to do the Tyrants budding. This Primarch......He actually cares about how the outcomes realy effect his Astardes, the population.

Yeah but nooope! Emprah sees weapons not sons

He gets to be a cool tool though, a replacement emperor should shit get weird. And weird it got.

@@iamalpharius9483 Why does everybody forget about Vulcan?!?

Robby: "I know, that's why I'm so proud of you."

Thats why Ventris is Guilliman's favorite son.

Hmm... You know what I had to do when I broke rules? 🙃

I'm sure he knows of Uriel and Pasanius' death oath into the Eye, and of the bullsh*t they had to endure: demonic baby factories, demon-Horned Iron warrior things with meat hooks, then getting kicked around by a Grey Knight LOL

I think Guilliman would be incredibly proud of Titus

"Some of my brothers are fan of cartoons. Kurze likes Batman, I liked the Smurfs growing up."

ah tts a great show

*roboute after defeating all the chaos gods and making new marines that each was strong as a custodes and shoot lasers from their eye sockets* "Whatever do you mean?"

I’d half expect TTS!PapaSmurf to start UltraCrying when Roboute turns up, because he finally wouldn’t be stuck dealing with the bullshit on his own.

@laz kar None of them are just "boring invincible hero" anymore, though. While the Horus Heresy series was WAAAAAAY too long (and mostly not good), we did get expanded stories for each of the primarchs to supplement. Plus the Solar War series, and the individual primarch books. Each has rich, deep personalities, internal conflicts aplenty, and awkward interactions where they know what it's like to feel like a human, while dealing with the fact that they are obviously much more than that (while also being 12 foot tall supermen).

Call me a sucker for a good story, but Ill take a hero who has had to take risks, and sometimes fails, than one who just gets everything handed to them.

None but the most prestigious of all Space Marines, Cato Si- Wait, I just got word he died as soon as the Indomitus Crusade started.

@@jackdaw7792 wait really?

@@jackdaw7792 bro he returned

@@irengbamnikhilsingh7458 hey man that was a good ass story though and they finally made him actually likeable and reasonable like him needing alot of help and sacrifices weakening the greater demon to actually finish it

Titus was kinda based off Ventris...

@The Old One well... except for the fact that Titus got arrested by a bunch of black templars and an inquisitor under heresy claims

MyFaceIsMyShield RIP Titus

@@spacemarinechaplain9367 Titus did not die, he joined Deathwatch or something like that most likely.

@@myfaceismyshield5963 if he was really under arresst those Templars would have taken his gun. In reality the inquistor recognized him as a pariah and probably wanted to figure out he he is a space Marine if he's a pariah

Here Inquisitor. Someone is doubting the one true Emprah!

Blam!!!!!!!!

I'm getting sick and tired of people saying the Emperor didn't love his sons, or that he lacked compassion. The Emperor DID love his sons, in fact he loved them more than anything. He just had a grand, pre-determined destiny for his sons, it doesn't mean he saw them as simply tools or weapons. It's pretty damn obvious in the Emperor's last battle with Horus that the Emperor, even after everything Horus had done, couldn't help but hold back, which caused him to be mortally wounded to begin with. If he saw Horus simply as a weapon or a tool he wouldn't have held back, and he would still be alive. The Emperor had compassion. He just knew what needed to be done to create and maintain the glory of the Imperium. You cannot reunite a million worlds with words. The Horus Heresy happened not because the Emperor failed in any way, or because he lacked compassion (he didn't). The Horus Heresy happened because the Primarchs were human, and just as susceptible to persuasion as a mere mortal. Horus truly believed what he was doing was right; that's how chaos corrupts and takes over the mind.

@@ReconCrusader I don't believe the Emperor's soul was split into hundreds of fragments, but regardless sitting on a throne for 10000 years keeping a portal closed probably will make anyone go insane, only the Emperor has the willpower and mental strength to have done it for so long. One can imagine you'd probably lose any semblance of compassion or empathy, as no suffering is as great as the suffering in which the Emperor endures.

40k is not a re-imaged bible story. I don't know where you're getting that from. The Emperor didn't manipulate everyone so that he could ascend to becoming a god. He already was a god before ever coming to the fore of mankind. The fact is, NOBODY knows what the Emperor's true intentions and motivations are. It is now known, from Aaron Dembski-Bowden : "Everyone whom has the chance to be in the Emperor's presence perceives something different, based on their own experiences and expectations. Nothing He ever says should be taken at face value, since it is 'warped' by the narrator's interpretation." The Emperor's massive psychic power (the same power that makes all humans compelled to kneel before him) affects how anyone perceives any interaction they have with the Emperor. Whatever they hear or believe they hear is warped. When the Emperor speaks with the Custodes, he talks about the Primarchs like they are his experiments, not his sons, because the Custodes believe they are the Emperor's true companions, those who stood by him the longest and the ones closest to him. And yet, when the Emperor speaks with the Primarchs, he often speaks with love and compassion. We can only deduce the Emperor's intentions from his actions alone. He already is/was the single most powerful entity in the WH40k universe; your argument that he did it for power holds no water because he already had great power, and could obtain even greater power without even requiring to do all that he did for humanity. What did his supposed quest for power do for him? He now sits on a throne forever concentrated on keeping a portal closed. Why does he suffer for eternity, to keep humanity alive, when he could let the portal open, kill himself, and be resurrected?

That would be great to read! Although if we ever get a change I think Sicarius is more likely

@@wolflordrho Ahh... Sicarius... Maybe he could die some honourable death somewhere, somehow, so the candidacy of Master Chapter could favour Ventris. I just absolutely loved the man, after seeing how he took his exile with dignity, and how he dealt with the abominable Unfleshed just broke my heart. Besides, Primarch Guilliman is having doubts more and more about his own work, the Codex Astartes, and perhaps some unorthodox thinking marines are more preferred than the unconventional textbook followers in this new era of the Imperium... Apologies mate, I like to rant and wish-think about the future of 40k.

everybody knows captain titus is next chapter master

@@dominicvucic8654 sicarius is Titus's successor.

Never will happen as the great lord is back

I hear you. As someone who lost his father early in life, this whole scene hit really hard for me.

But in new lore fucking Cato reminds Guilliman of Tiel , that's an injustice if I ever so one

Nino Curic tbh new Cato is a character I really like

Uriel and Cato are to Ventanus and Thiel. Much like how Dante and Mephiston are to Azkaellon and Nassir Amit.

And what the Lamenters always have been.

Turns out failure has a way to humble people.

And now the Lion has become a bit more empathetic and fatherly. Guess they just needed 10k years to mature.

@@mranderson718 The Lion just needed a nap.

Heresy ! I sense the touch of the warp in these words ! But yeah I agree

Same here

Storm of iron was my first 40k novel but I use to read the Warhammer fantasy stories years before.

I'm almost done with the first volume of the chronicles and cannot wait to read the second.

those novels helped me through some of the hardest times in my life, it made life bearable, the author will never know that a kid who had just lost his father took his mind of his grief by escaping to the world he created in those novel, I'll be forever grateful to the author

All primachs save Angron had this ability.

Iron Fairies... Nice nickname!

Are you eager to see what happens with the yellow king ?

I like to call them Iron C%nts, Iron Bitches, Rusty F@ggots, Perturabo's Little Sissies, The Siegefailures, Failbaddon's Gnomes, The REEEEEE Legion, etc, but yours is better.

After telling it... Guilliman: "Well... I knew Perturabo was disturbed, but BY THE THRONE, he got really deep in this, innit?"

Couldn't agree more :)

I am an Imperial player. Especifically a Blood Angels player, and if there is characters I dislike a lot are mostly from chaos, I just don't like them at all. There are a few Imperial characters I dislike, but I never disliked Guilliman at all. I always looked at him as a nice guy

I felt that first time i was introduced to him but the more and more i have heard about guilliman the more i liked him

I cant understand how anyone could say it any other way 😂

Row-bute (byoot) is how I’ve always done it. Gillyman. Emphasis on the first syllable.

According to W40k Lexicanum, Roboute Guilliman's name is pronounced /rɒb'uːt 'guːlɪmæn/, roh-BOUT GOOL-ih-man.

Robot Girlyman.

Robust Girlyman

Get on with it mate - Its absolutely phantastic. All the new lore rocks (watchers of the throne included). May I suggest the audiobook? Its an unique experience

Unlikely for lesser mind, even if that is one of adeptus astartes, to be wiser than that of Primarch. So it's kinda stupid to not expect people to treat Codex as Bible. Primarch maybe wrong but he's more likely by a million fold to be more right than you.

@@ptbot3294 Haha just add a line to the codex saying "All of the above is to be regarded as rough guideline in known scenarios and cannot substitute adaptation to changing situations" at the end

Abel Babel the problem is that over the millennia the codex has gone through multiple interpretations and given the amount of second founding chapters born of the ultramarines its hard to know which one is true

In hindsight he should've put a reminder at the beginning of the book

"The codex is merely a guideline, not some holy writ."

mobiuszero Helooo father I Canto Secarios...

@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 Marneus Calgar: GET OUT OF HERE SHITBOOT BEFORE I CAST THE IMPERIAL FISTING UPON YOU!!

@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 I CUNTO SHITARIUS HAVE NARRY A DOUBT I AM THE BETTER SWORDSMAN AND IT SHOULD BE I WHO IS TEACHING YOU

Titus and Uriel the ultamit duo.

Uriel Ventris is one of the best characters to come out of modern 40k. Nevermind the chapter, he's just excellently written.

Never lay with a the Xenos and the witch and the heretic - there pants game is too strong

Here and there, there are some open minded individuals despite their upbringing to be xenophobic. I compare Uriel Ventris to the likes of Aeonid Thiel.

Warhammer bad fascism You must be defective NPC 119387.

One day you might meet Trump.

Thank you!

Captain Titus?

Thank you!

Dorn might be alive my dude and isn’t the Primarch of the dark angels asleep due to the watchers or something so he could probs be excused.

Smittywerben Jagermanjensen vulkan is kinda sorta dead and the khan is in the webway chasing after the dark eldar who took his people, russ and corax went into the warp for different reasons

Smittywerben Jagermanjensen yeah he is in stasis on the rock and Dorn I suspect might be on terra

Thanks 👍🏼

weird brits and your terrible language... ... Howdy from Merica

Where can I read the new story elements? Is there some new books published or where do you guys get the new informations?

@@31er_ohne_AMG The Dark Imperium novel, the Dark Imperium:Plague Wars a continuation and the book where this meeting happened. There is the Devastation of Ball about the Blood Angels and Robute and his Indomitus Crusade make an appearance there. There Should be novelizations of the Fall of Cadia and Robutes return but I can not remember the names of the books right now. Those are the ones I remember right now so maybe others can add to the list of the newest lore.

They said they won't do end times anytime soon. They are just furthering the plot since everyone been crying for it.