Arrow Penetration Test: Broadheads and Shoulder Blades 

Are you good? ;) Lmao thank you..

That is a great setup, David. Thanks for watching.

You know you can kill any animal in north america with a 55# pound bow. And 650 is a good minimum arrow weight.

120 lb English war bow with a type 16 head on there.. would sail thru a deer length wise..

Hahaha I love it!

@@GIITW.5OKC whatever you say pro lmfao

That's why the optimal setup according to Dr Ed Ashby (leading authority on arrow lethality) says you should use an arrow of at least 650 grains and a good single blade broadhead. You can kill any land animal in north america even with a 55# recurve.

Excellent insights. Thank you for watching!

The arrow bending has nothing to do with FOC. All arrows whip and bend out of the bow. A properly spined arrow will recover from paradox and hit a target straight when it is properly tuned. The problem with massive FOC is that it masks tuning errors, it can also cause an arrow to hit the animal at an angle when fired in the wind. A properly tuned and balanced arrow hitting straight on with a sharp broadhead will always perform when shot into the pocket.

Thanks for watching, Jeff!

A 650 grain arrow shooting from a 55# bow with a good solid single blade broadhead will kill any animal in north america

Thanks, Andrew! That is precisely the point of this video. It is all about kinetic energy.

Deer Hunting -Uh guys, back to school for you both. Kinetic energy is .5 x mass x velocity squared. A lighter arrow, traveling faster has MORE kinetic energy than a heavier arrow traveling slower! You've both got it backwards.

David Carlile - I don't need a silly ass experiment to confirm what physics has already taught us (well me anyway)

sed6 Then perhaps read Dr Ed Ashby's arrow lethality study. If you don't want to actually do it then perhaps you would rather read it. I do remember physics teaching the difference in kinetic energy and momentum, though.

sed6 no, heavier weight carries more momentum, which will penetrate more. That's a fact, go ask any real physicist....

Thank you for watching!

Anything Outdoors I don't know man I shot the Halon 6 and a bunch of Elites some Primes some bear and a bunch of PSE and I ended up going with the Dream Season 34 inch PSE all man it's smoking fast and flat shooting liked it better than all the rest. I have shot a couple meth use besides that Halon 6 and they are real nice

Disposables 😂

Hi Will, several options available including the Rage Xtreme. I would recommend not taking quartering shots and also limit shots to 25 yards and under. Best, Dan

The Rage Xtreme is NOT the way to go. It will get the job done well, but you will likely not have 2 holes. Any of the 2" Rages will be fine, as well as NAP Spitfire. 2" cutting diameter is more than enough and 25 yrds will be no problem with a heavy arrow and good FOC. I shoot 60lb 30" arrows that weigh 450gn with a standard Rage 2 blade 2" and get a clean pass at at-least 32 yrds.

You are correct, and we do address these in several other videos on shot placement on this site. The nature of this series only allows us to provide about 4 minute episodes. We should have stressed how NOT to take shoulder shots more, I agree with you, but the larger point was shot selection and the urgency to know how your gear will perform before heading afield. Thanks for watching and good luck this year!

hypodermic mechanicals might be good for you. They're designed to fly like a field point so not too mush adjustment will be needed for hunting with them

Joe has a good recommendation. Rage also makes low KE heads in the other lineups as well. As do other broadhead makers.

Have you guys ever herd of Wasp Jack hammer mechanical broad heads

Also thanks for those i will be looking into them as well.

I have heard of them, but truthfully I have not seen much about them. I prefer fixed blades, I love the slick trick - viper trick broad heads.

Agreed. This was just an example.

I was just saying that it could give some people false hope on their arrow setup. You can break a board in half with a 2.3" rage if you hit in the right spot. Thanks for preaching heavy arrows thought. I think the whitetail/archery industry has been pushing fast bows and not concentrating on the arrow setup. Most bowhunters are basically pushing a square peg through a round hole with a fast bow and bad arrow/broadhead setup.

You are correct, Steve. We could have been more clear on this point, and do not wish to spread false hopes. The key points, as stated in the video, is to truly know your gear and setup and how they will perform while hunting in relation to deer anatomy. Thanks for watching!

Yep. It'll go through the deer and a couple of his buddies on the other side if you don't hit scapula. Lol

I shoot several styles and brands due to my position here with DDH as editor in chief, which requires me to test all sorts of broadhead styles. This year I have shot whitetail, antelope, hogs and an axis deer with everything ranging from the new Rage Trypan to the TRUGLO Xtreme (4 blade expandable) and the NAP Crossfire. I personally prefer a large, cutting diameter expandable. That being said, I never take long shots with my bow and vehemently INSIST on super high-odds shot placement -- broadside and slightly quartering away are my preferred shots at deer. Nothing is foolproof in any type of bowhunting, crossbow hunting included. A broadhead kills by causing massive hemorrhaging. A large cutting expandable helps with this, as does it help with blood trailing. I also use fixed blade broadheads on some of my hunts. Fixed blades are still the best option for penetration and for sharpness. Probably TMI, but this is my mindset anyway. It has worked for me. I know for a fact that other bowhunters have their own preferences and what works for me might not work for others. Thanks for watching and have a great season! Dan Schmidt

A 350 grain arrow with a good single blade broadhead will kill and land animal in north america.

A proper archer. Stalking is an art. A life skill. The better you stalk, the more chance you have of placing an accurate shot and securing the animal. Bravo hunter. I admire real hunting and seeing the whites of its eyes before the flight of my angels of death.

Yep, you are correct. Dan mentions this in the video. This was merely just an example during that week's broadcast. Thanks for watching and commenting!

I agree. People should read Dr Ed Ashby on arrow lethality. It's a real education. Especially for the guy that made this video.

Actually bone is very much fibrous. It's structure is made up of aligned collagen proteins. It is not a solid homogeneous mass. And bone does split. Google pictures of bone splitting and single bevel. Wood isn't a perfect substitute for bone but it does share many similarities, enough to get the point across.

@@DIYSportsman yeah right but Phone is still something very different also he is shooting at a 90 degree angle

Hi Pedro. Yes, as mentioned in the video -- bone, hide and tissue all affect penetration. Nothing can be predicted 100% but the take-home message should be shot placement combined with knowing your range limitations and, of course, the quality of your equipment. Thanks for watching!

You do know you can kill and land animal in north america with a 55# bow and a 650 grain arrow with a good single blade broadhead. and at recurve speeds of 190 fps.

Have to make sure you can cut down a small tree if it's blocking the deer.