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Caramba me surpreendi com a versão do super nintendo,apesar de ser mais simples em detalhes em comparação ao arcade,a versão do super não fez feio não. Se reparei bem tem até 1 pouco zoom.
AOF2 is a great 2P game on NeoGeo but the CPU in 1P mode is disgusting. It just reads your inputs and counters accordingly. Whilst the Arcade version is the definitive version, I too agree that the SNES version was a reasonable effort - hardware limitations accepted...
@@alexhardline2208 Great example tbh Alex. MK2 was equally as unreasonable. Everytime you jump, magically, the opponent would immediately counter with a standing jump kick. As for Kintaro... :eyeroll:
@@NeoGeoNinja81 Except the CPU in MK2 can be cheesed quite easily with certain characters, falling for the same patterns over and over. Kintaro is also piss easy with timed jumpkicks, if you get in a rhythm, you can knock him down each and every single time. MK2 is only hard with Liu Kang, Raiden, Kitana, Mileena, and Raiden, but even Kitana can cheese the CPU quite often.
@@Bloodreign1 I agree with you. In MK2 if u do a good jump playing some characters, enemy will jump too and u can attack him. I dunno there're some "schemes" in AOF 2 too.
@@Marius150PL I've been literally beating the fuck outta my local MVS machine for YEARS and still haven't found any reliable 'patterns' in AOF2... Sometimes the CPU will fall for corner traps, and sometimes it won't. They're ALWAYS ready to counter WHATEVER you throw at them, and they are CHEAP. I am however, one of the few lucky people who could actually reach Geese Howard using multiple characters.That game always gives me one helluva workout everytime I play it! 🥵
@@scorpionmk6695 Nem se compara a resposta dos controles do Snes no MK1 e no Art of Fighting 2, AoF2 responde corretamente, o MK sim, é pesado, resposta muito lenta aos comandos.
Eu joguei nos dois consoles, além de todas as diferenças visíveis eu achei a versão SNES bem mais fácil na dificuldade, agora a do Neo Geo é um absurdo de difícil, também as vozes do SNES são abafadas e algumas falas cortadas, porém curti muito a versão do SNES.
@@Bloodreign1 System limitations aside; they CAN make the home versions alot better if they wanted to, but then people will STOP going to the arcades...
It's of course inferior because of its cart size of only 32 megs while the arcade was 170 megs I think. If the SNES version had at least 50- 60 megs could had done greater things. Perhaps bigger sprites, stronger sound, cover a lot of the missing details on the backgrounds and maybe work more on the music (which was already very good) but it had only 32 meg..what can you expect with that?
Eu acho o remix do SNES bem melhor que a original do Neo Geo. Pega a tela do Lee, por exemplo. A do Snes é bem mais animada e me deixa no Hype de jogar.
Hhhhaaaa memorias... De quando joguei essa bela inspiração de um pseudo árcade em casa... O cartucho da locadora provavelmente adaptado pro SNES nacional... Ta pra lá de decente essa versão do SNES!!!! Quase tudo esta nele praticamente... Tiveram capricho, pois se pensou no que se poderia fazer mediante as limitações do hardware... Os cartuchos de certas adaptações dos árcades poderiam ser mais potente, com mais memoria, chips extras, mais prazo de reprogramação etc... Mais isso impactava no preço tanto de produzir quanto na venda, por isso certos jogos ficavam abaixo do esperado por essas economias, mais certamente não foi o caso do Art of Fignt2 ... Quem bota defeito jamais sentiu a sensação e a emoção de um molecote remelento ao se deparar com tal game, em que ficou acordado de sexta pra sábado jogando isso a noite inteira hahahahah... Bons tempos
É óbvio que o de Snes é inferior ao arcade, MAS é um excelente port, com certeza! O mais impressionante é ter o efeito de zoom, que era uma sensação na época, todo mundo ficou boquiaberto quando viu o Art of Fighting no Arcade, bonecos enormes no zoom in, e muito bacana se afastar e dar um zoom out. Joguei muito no arcade e no Snes, na época. O mega drive, coitadinho, só recebeu o 1, sem efeito de zoom...
Cuando Street Fighter 2 era el rey de la pista en los Arcade donde yo iba (yo fanático claro está), este juego me enamoró, tanto que hasta llame a la compañía que lo vendía (porque su numero estaba pegado a la maquina) imagina un adolescente preguntando el precio de un arcade jajajaja, pero me respondieron y si era muy caro claro, Art of Fighting 2 es una pieza maestra por su sistema de pelea, personajes y música, de verdad las músicas de los escenarios de Yuri y Mickey son excelentes!
@@TS-yz3ud The home version on the SFC is quite good in it's own right, and you can actually beat the damned thing far easier than the PS2, arcade, or Neo CD versions. So the OP is indeed correct.
The NEO GEO is probably the most underrated console/arcade system ever made. 2D powerhouse, not even consoles several years newer could handle NEO GEO ports arcade perfect without expansion accessories. I own several Neo GEO games on my XB1X I still play because they're so damn good.
It's because SNK wasted a lot of megs every time. While Nintendo and Sega were still in the 24-32 megs category, SNK was in the 150-170 megs level...while Nintendo and Sega were designating a couple of megs for the music, SNK was using around 20 alone for that category, and so on, an important number of megs for every section, graphics, sound, effects, etc. this is why all of their games were awesome, as they used a lot of size and sources to build games with arcade quality.
@@carlossantavilla2997 it’s not that simple. By your logic then the CD add on by Sega and NEC should have allowed for perfect Neo-Geo ports. As the meg count on these cartridges was measured in bits and you need 8 of those to make a Mega by te and a CD can hold 750 of those. The Neo Geo was also powered by the same Motorola 6800 that powered the mega drive. It had a bunch of other coprocessors for scaling, fx, colors and also a large for the time RAM to hold the big assets in memory while playing. Why those CD based games for a while couldn’t keep up. The Saturn even with the RAM expansion had less Ram than a Neo Geo.
A versão do SNES onde a capacidade técnica e inferior a da placa MVS não fez tão feio, só achei a jogabilidade um pouco imprecisa, tem momentos que os comandos não respondem direito
Esse port de Art of Fighting 2 pra Super Nintendo ficou muito descente.! Jogando modo vs pra 3 jogadores, lembra muito o que seria um KOF caseiro pro Super Nintendo! Bom demais.!
In my opinion, I think they really should have left out the zooming effect on the SNES version and just made the sprites as BIG as possible; like Samurai Shodown on the Genesis... That way, it could've played better/faster/smoother and put alot less stress on the already slow-ass CPU. And doubling up on the memory with 64-meg cart size (to hold more graphics and higher quality sound effects) couldn't hurt either! 🤔
I think different: The sprite size doesn't matter all. What matter is how responsive are the controls, how faithful (not in graphic terms, because we are talking about consoles that couldn't match the arcades) is to the arcade. Samurai Shodown on Snes is a more complete and faithful game. Genesis port lost a lot of moves, one character entirely, and while the sprites are bigger, the backgrounds are much more detailed and beautiful on Snes. Of course, if the characters would be bigger, it would be even better, but still, it's the best port of the 16 bit consoles.
The snes version is just a heavily striped down version of the Neo geo game since it has a lot of missing background animation, and is letterboxed presumably to improve performance and certain background objects are redrawn to accommodate for the snes versions limited resolution.
O meu sonho era ter um Neo geo (E até hoje!!!);e quando fui na locadora alugar esse jogo, fiquei doido!!! Me diverti muito!! Só fui ver os sprites na capa dos cartuchos Neo geo...E hj jogo esse game no meu celular. Esse jogo faz parte da minha infância
Mais uma conversão fantástica do poderoso Neo geo para o limitado SNES. Incrível o que foi feito nessa versão! Os controles, velocidade, animação, Zoom, cut scenes, ost, tudo muito bem convertido e fiel. O SNES nos anos 90 foi um arcade em casa a preço acessível.
Bacana, sempre achei essa versão de SNES bem competente desde criança, a wold heroes 2 também ficou um luxo.. Mk2 nem se fala, tenho preferência pelo mega drive mais tiro meu chapéu para algumas conversões de arcade no SNES, samurai n... Street peca pelo controle... Nisso mega deu banho!!!!
Si tenemos en cuenta que la versión de super nintendo tiene 32 megas, y la de neo geo 178 megas indiscutiblemente es mejor version de la super nintendo. Porque? Porque en una quinta parte de megas se consigue un juego que da la talla, estoy seguro que la NEO GEO no hubiera tenido cojones a sacar la misma calidad si el juego hubiera tenido 32 megas.
Snes fico muito top, claro que arcade é melhor mas pra quem comprava um cartucho desses saia no lucro pq jogava sem perde quase nd fico muito bom, o mega quando tinha port saia td bugado ruim demais o snes é melhor si tratanto de port
By the time this game came out, Takara had already stopped working with Nintendo... You can blame it on Nintendo for cutting ties with Takara. Takara had already began working on PS1 and Saturn titles like Battle Arena Toshinden. That's why SAURUS released AOF2 instead, but only in Japan!
Depois de SFA2, na minha opinião, esse foi o melhor fighting game já lançado para o SNES. E outra coisa, as composições das músicas ficaram melodicamente, não tecnicamente em termos de arranjo, taxas de amostragem; essas coisas, mais bonitas que a do Arcade Neo Geo, porém repito: é só minha opinião!
Olha snes teve bastante fighting Games bons foras os que você já citou, eu adicionaria street fighter 2 o turbo e o super, mk 2 e mk3 (o UMK3 não pois tinha muitos bugs) e killer instinct, world heroes 2, fatal Fury special foram boas conversões também
Actually, with a ram upgrade, the Megadrive/Genesis could have gotten this game and with the zooming as it had basically the same processors as the Neo Geo. That version probably would have been even better than the Snes version as the Snes hardware was pretty slow.
@@Imadeyourun Maybe SEGA should've really went with THAT idea instead of trying to focus on FAILED systems like the 32X... Who knows? They prolly could've dominated the 16-bit fighting game market if things really went well! 🤔
@@Imadeyourun The SegaCD was all they really needed to compete with the SNES, in certain categories like RPGs for example; which the SNES truly dominated during the 16-bit era... But they just HAD to go ahead and make that stupid dumbass mistake with the 32X; which pretty much KILLED them financially in the USofAIDS! 👎👎👎
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It's quite EASY actually... The enemy AI is alot less aggressive, and are very suspect to cheap throws. You can ramp the difficulty all the way up to the hardest level, and still be able to beat the game perfectly without ever losing if you're pretty decently skilled. Reaching the final boss Geese Howard is much more easier in this version because of the much easier difficulty. The same CANNOT be said about the Neo Geo version however tho; AOF2 is one of SNK's most difficult games to master!
takara making a very good ports for the nintendo consoles in that years, the snes is a very powefull console , also the gameboy games like netou kof 95, 96, real bout fatal fury are a very good adaptations from the monster of neogeo.
It just sucks that there wasn't a Mega Drive port for this. Also, there were other consoles with better SNK games than the likes of the Nintendo consoles.😏 Mega Drive>Super NES Game Gear>Game Boy
Mode 7 can zoom in/out the background layer, but not the fighters. I assume that the zooming of the characters is done with another technique. In fatal fury special on snes (not ff2) they achieve a little bit of zooming in/out without mode 7, seemingly collapsing the tiles 2-3 pixels to the center of the fighter's image. The result is a slightly distorted image. That's why i assume that the zooming in/out is not much pronounced in art of fighting 1 and 2 on the snes.
Sometimes the proportions in Takuma looks odd when zoomed out...arms seems too big when shooting a fireball, that's why i believe that the zooming out is a programming trick, which works fast and nice in low resolution images, not a true zooming efect, which would be too much for the snes processor without a dsp
Dou risada dos que colocam "Mega Drive Wins". O Mega nem tem esse jogo huahua. Mas falando sério, a "conversão" e não "Port" do SNES é honesta. O jogo foi refeito para o SNES aguentar o tranco. Se tivesse mais velocidade de processador e um pouco mais de memória, certamente ficaria melhor. E depende muito de quem faz o Port também. Se todos os ports fossem feitos pela própria SNK, certamente teríamos jogos melhores.
I don’t think this ever came up for the Genesis...did it? Maybe that was just part one but personally I think it would’ve been better on the Genesis because it was zooming in and out crap doesn’t add anything to the game at all.
Genesis never got AoF 2 at all, only the SFC/SNES got a port, the only non-SNK made console that got one. Like the PS1 being the only non-SNK made console for years that got Samurai Shodown 2 and in Japan only.
This was a horrible port compared to all the other SNK ports. While the AoF1 also had stripped down backgrounds, it at least had a great remixed soundtrack. this one doesn't have anything.
I think its an original feature,it zoom when you are near your opponent to get a nice view of the combos and zooming out helps you to zone espace... In that era fighting games were still in developement and some "odd" features were saw in the times.
