Arthars reacts to Zepla's "Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played" for 2 hours 

Arthars is known for taking a small point and turning it into a 30 minute+ ramble and/or joke... and I wouldn't have it any other way LMAO

Lol I have to check after reading this.

This is how you react and make it transformative. If it was a 36min video and he uploads it at 39min it's basically a reupload

That's over 200% value

Because I'm not a viewer 2x speed is the only thing to make this bearable.

So, this is actually pretty constructive criticism and I can vibe with this. I would love for their to be more incentive for other people to play, say, the alliance raids from Heavensward through Shadowbringers by having special drops, pursuits, etc that the hardcores can be incentivised to do, which would help people like myself who just want to grind this content for glamours, fun, etc. Right now 10th Anniversary is probably helping with that, but that will end in a week and we will likely go back to 30 minute or more waits for non-Crystal Tower alliance raids. I would love for there to be something like weekly raids which grant more XP/Gil/loot drops, etc for certain raids so encourage them to be populated more than twice a fucking day.

I'm very casual gamer, i don't like "hardcore mode" etc... But Endwaler is the worst extension, and maybe the eye opener. I started the game at 5.2. I really like the story, because you have to become the warrior of light and you discover light and darkness are the same, not the story of good one against the bad one. But i was a little bit disappointed : the DJ are the same structure (4 packs of mob, 1 boss, 4 packs of mob, 1 boss, 4 packs of mob and final boss, every along the aisle), and the raids/boss are the same too : big plateforme with the boss in the middle or at the edge. And of course, some part of story like the "gang of lalafel" who should have been the main point of Heavensward disappeared quickly... But when Endwaler is launched, i was so disappointed by everything !!! For exemple : - Story : please, i expected something more "adult", and we got "yeah the power of love of hydaelyn is super fancy" "trust in the friendship yeahhh" ... god, i expected we gotta a neutral position, or the power to choose between ascian and hydaelyn. No, Hydaelyn is right and ascians were wrong... no sorry, i'm not ok ! - Content : nothing news, same kind of dj and raid ... just the color and characters change... the story of 6.1-6.4 is so boring and still "yeah being friend is so cool, look, be my friend, everything will be good after, yeahhhh" - New type of content : making "solo mod" in MMO rpg, i think they were more occupied by the sort of streamers than thousand players playing mmo to play with other players. They create an island to play alone in MMO ... And DJ with a harder level ... Please, MMO is the kind of game where the creativity is possible, where you can do anything !! but with ff14 , the community is happy just with emote to simulate sex in limsa lominsa ...

@@tuduermestrop8474 I don't think you understood Endwalker's story if all you got out of it was "Hydaelyn was right, Ascians were wrong." You know Venat was an Ascian, right? And Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeous, also Ascians, help you in the end? The expansion goes to great lengths to show that Hydaelyn Sundering Eorzea came with its own sacrifices and costs. And then to do that over, and over, and over again, further diluting her own power, further pushing Eorzea to losing its aetherial protection against Dynamis... it all culminates in the Final Days happening at some point, because Hydaelyn was only putting a bandaid on a gaping wound. It's extremely adult to examine the cost of trying to save a world, to explore how a heroic sacrifice actually made the world worse. And lol, "friendship overcoming all odds" is about as Final Fantasy as it gets. I don't even know how to react to your weird summary of the patch MSQ.

I started the game in the last patch of Stormblood and I NEVER felt the overworld was engaging. It's a lot of wasted potential. There are many great areas with hidden details.

@@ZephyrFate dude was disappointed for the story he didn't get, I guess? To be fair, it does sound like he is caught up on the Lalafell Merchant Empire conspiracy kinda going nowhere. Nanamo not dying is kinda one of the biggest missed opportunities in the series. I feel like the guys who followed the absolutely best part of ARR (that final mission) just didn't know what to do with it, afterwards, since they wanted to instead focus on the Dragonsong War and introducing The Warriors of Darkness. I just wish they didn't do the stupid fakeout of "well, actually Lolorito was just engaging in some way to get rid of Teleji Adeleji so he played along with the fake assassination so Raubahn would assassinate Teleji." Hell, I barely remember how it ended, tbh. I was just disappointed that it went nowhere. That said, Heavensward was overall an 8/10 and Shadowbringers is at least a 9/10 if not 10/10.

With duty support is definitely more "conversation" going on than with other players. Players just rush through the dungeon - so it's even no time to properly look around. Thats why I will always prefer ds, especially in the first run.

Meh. I used to think like that, but I realized that doing a new dungeon blind on day one with 3 other people also coming in blind is the most fun that dungeon will ever be for me. I always tell myself I'll return with bots later for the lore, but the truth is I never bother to, lmao.

​@@benoitrousseau4137lmao yea my feelings exactly

So the best thing about Duty Support, other than the lines of dialogue, is that you actually get to LEARN the dungeon. When you are playing with other players, you can't help but feel if you go through DC for the first time and are just dying left and right that you are infringing on the fun of others. Then again, the counter-argument is that said people will not get that nice boost in rewards for you doing it the first time. I usually run DS for a few times as a tank or healer class. I roll DPS if I am doing something for the first time through DF.

@@avelinevarlineau7123 yeah, i'm not fan of doing wall to wall in my first time in a dungeon and before duty support I asked my friends to do it with me. :)

@@Sasquatch_. Almost 50? WTF

People been sleeping on how gorgeous Zepla is for her age.

@@kiney4473 I think a gaming site said she was in her 40s and she got really mad at it, it is very likely that she is in her mid to late 30s since she talks about playing earlier WoW expansions in her late teens/early 20s.

@@coolyeh1017 I thought she is like 28 or 30

​@@kiney4473 She played WoW when it came out in 2004 so she's almost certainly in her early 30s at youngest.

This is a nice take on the current state of things. Anybody who raises problems about the current content cycle leaving them high and dry are more or less told to shut up and be grateful that we aren't *forced* to grind now like we're in the WoW mines, and with concerning frequency. The game was ALWAYS respectful of your time, it had a good balance of things to do if you wanted to pursue them, and freedom to put it down for a while without falling behind in any significant way. The major difference now in EW is that all of the long term content that you COULD do if you so chose has been stripped down to be completable in about a week without even trying that hard, or removed outright. A lot of people seem to refuse to acknowledge the perspective of veteran players now more than ever, shaming and putting them down for expecting more of the game at worst. So it makes me relieved to hear a self-professed new player being understanding of the situation players who have kept up with endgame for a long time are in. These discussions are very important, but all sides need to be willing to have them :D

honest criticism and content creators are opposite things

@@jackjohnson8305 Its just like was Arthars said in the video when you love a game you do want to play more or have a reason play more without feeling forced to be on. Like i get your point its nice to have a game you can put down and pick back up at anytime and not have to worry about catching up. However when you have systems in place where people complete in a few hrs and then done with not much replayability, people will quit and do as you say and while thats fine it does suck when you end up with players who have forged friendships with their fc mates or statics and now you dont really get to play with anyone. Atleast from my experience the game is slowly becoming more antisocial. the past 4 fcs ive been in that say theyre active and do events, they only have like 2 people online half the time and no one gets on discord. While i enjoy FF14 for its Story i like the group activitys and fc bonding and right now for alot of fcs that arent part of the clubbing and rp community, that is happening to them now. Also i poorly worded that bit about finished content, what i meant was i finished the main content then dabbled in the casual content and it just wasnt for me as far as a form of endgame, obv you cant please everyone but for people (not saying you) to get mad and triggered when someone states an opinion they have about the game is kinda stupid. They get mad because you dont enjoy the game they play it so they have to send the attack dogs on anyone who says something about the ff14 even if it wasnt in "shitting on the game" way.

@@jackjohnson8305 thanks for beating me to it. People get so caught up trying to find their 1 game instead of enjoying a game for what it is. No game will have limitless content and fun especially when you play it everyday for years. People are like damn I did everything why is there no more content for me to do... I too quit Bloodborne when I got the Platnium trophy lol.

@@luja5546Its cool to meet people online and have group activities in a game to do together, but you could very well achieve that same feeling in another game or in your real life. If those people are in your DIS also bored with 14then so what, your time together is over or will return in Dawntrail. When Yoshi P tells yall to play other shit but you refuse too and then complain about content drought, thats kind of on you at this point.

@@jackjohnson8305 The only problem with that take in the current state of the game is that the EW patches have factually, demonstrably, less content to them than any previous expansion's. When you've exhausted XIV's existing backlog of things to do because you've been playing along while it was recent, it becomes impossible to ignore how much quicker a new patch runs dry in EW than previous ones, even though we're still paying the same amount for a month's worth of game time as we always have. Even if you *want* to play it some more because it's what you're in the mood for, most things that could sustained interest over a longer period of time have been gutted in EW, Relic Weapons being the case in point. That's the big problem here, not that people demand endless entertainment from XIV, but that anything that can sustain interest if you WANT to invest more time has severely dwindled, and I consider that a big negative for a game that requires a certain critical mass of players always being active to survive. It's not noticeable to people who are fresh and starting with this huge backlog of old content, and doesn't understand what old patches had to offer, but as someone who's supported this game for almost 7 years at this point, I've never felt more neglected than I have in EW.

are you saying you grind without listening to something like this?

@@JustinK0 well i might have accidentally grinded a few island levels before having the great idea of multitasking ff14 rants and grinding :P

@@soldierorsomething its like you're new to grinding, ive been multitasking while grinding in mmo's for 15 years haha

@@JustinK0 I started playing MMO´s when Asmon came to FF14 :D, but no i wont get 2 monitors, i must resist

@@soldierorsomething its definitely worth it

If you can't find a reason to play the game/can't just play for fun then you don't need to play the game ya know, I haven't logged in for almost 3 months and am just waiting for the next patch, which I will play for maybe a week then stop until 6.55. People seem to think that stopping playing the game is a bad thing but even FF16 or Hogwarts Legacy I stopped playing after 2 weeks because I did everything I wanted to in thos games :)

@@MightyMango94 true recently i returned from a 2 mouth break and now being social, housing, and minor goals keep me playing.

that means the game sucks. for a new player it's great but once you finish the story your stuck till the next update. within 2 weeks you can finish everything .

I have been taking the game at a very slow pace, I am in the middle of stormblood and started the game in 2019

​@@MightyMango94it's because they genuinely think the game will die if they stop. The only thing that will really change things is if you stop your sub. I saw this SOOOO often with Destiny 2 with people complaining endlessly about the game and expecting developers to budge when they keep paying. Bro, the developer doesn't give a dusty fuck about the "community," because there is no clear voice in the "community.". It's the internet, and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. The only thing a dev can OBJECTIVELY point to as a measure of success or failure is sub/sell count. If you have 1000 players complaining endlessly but 100000 subs, you have an angry fucking minority that gets boosted by the algorithm. PVP cues seem to be exploding every fucking evening. The population just shifted. I am not saying no opinion is valid, I am saying no one gives a shit about your whining unless you just unsubscribe, cancel pre-orders for Dawntrail, etc.

as it should be, done with the content time to do something else

That isn't remotely comparable because the game got so much hype from all these streamers leaving WoW to do FF. The spike in numbers that occurred at the end of Shadowbringers directly paralleled when Asmongold began playing and continued from there.

Thats weird tbh, I never had the same experience in Heavensward on EU datacenter

Just had that a few days ago. FC mate was running a dungeon and tank left, literally 10 people queueing the same dungeon to try and go in help xD

And that is the truly woke position. A lot of people, probably the majority of people, got into the game BECAUSE of the variety of content. It's got more in common with older MMO's, even if the format of older MMO's is kinda dead. People complain that there is nothing to do but sit there and roleplay and I'm like, "...I don't think you actually like MMO's. I think you just wanted a grind game, and would probably dig PoE or D4 much more."

Bozja was good for what it was but as an actual zone, it sucked horribly. It was ugly, barren, and the scaling was a disaster if you’re not in a group of 30 melting the boss down. Outside of the XP rates and dungeon mounts, the actual rewards were pretty worthless even as Glams. Everything else about it was great though. They needed to work on a few things that were thoroughly undercooked and it would be a staple piece of content, scrapping it entirely is an odd designing when Deep Dungeons exist.

only problem with bozja is it was so fucking ugly the zone looked horrible sure its a warzone but the whole place gotta be some ugly ass brown ? cmon now

​@@TheTinyTimmyTimTim I still miss those crappy late night DRS run with 40 other idiots early in ShB, it is immensely expensive to run, and ppl argue on discord, but...... I still remember our first clear in vivid detail.

Casuals and wow rats are the reason I quit XIV. Once the game was filled with casual shit birds from wow the game just went to shit because thats who SQE listens to. Games complete dogwater now.

But then you'll say that you aren't okay with just maple syrup and want strawberries added to the pancakes. And then once you get that you'll complain that the strawberries and syrup were too much and you wish you had simple pancakes. And then rinse and repeat. People complained about the exact opposite of things back in ShB. And now that EW is easier and lighter suddenly people like Zepla can grind out videos on why it's the worst expansion and other dumb hot takes.

​@@TheRealAlexFlamehow is she grinding anything, arthars made it very clear from the beginning that zepla could easily ball up into her blanket while saying uwu thanks for the subs, i love ff14. she is brave if anything for speaking out against her own audience. cuz ppl like you will alwyas say shit like that.

@@chrispyy99 Naw, she is a doomer who built an audience playing a game hardcore and then eventually got tired of it. The game doesn't currently have a grind and she is forced to either do something else. YoshiP has, for years, talked about taking time off to play other things. People like Zepla were too stupid to realize that hardcore, 40-hr a week players was not what the game was designed around. And Zepla is pissed at her audience because she is doing other things and people aren't watching her (and she is generating less money - see her talk with Preach). That is the risk when a solo streamer goes variety. She just needs to toughen up and start building a new audience instead of whining about her FF14 audience.

The problem is that he had maple syrup for several days already but forgot all about that. Then when it goes to plain (which he is supposedly okay with), he suddenly wants the maple syrup again. No game can constantly update to that degree that Arthas wants in his example.

When my parents had their first dog, they listened to my sister-in-law and the dog got the same food every day. In the beginning she ate without problems, but one day she took a bite, spit it out and looked at my mother. My mother was confused and as i asked her if she would like to have her favourite food every day she kinda realized. After that the dog got the same food with a bit of fresh fruits, sometimes cheese, potatoes, some meat or leftovers. She never refused her food ever again, instead she was always hyped for it... Even though the basic food stayed the same and she only got like 1/4 of variable content. Game companies could feed us like a dog and we'd be happy.

the relic weapons on content is always worse then the tome weapon, when anabaseios dropped the tome weapon had more weapon damage, and so did the p12s weapon, relic weapons will always remain a late tier parsing option and a ultimate gearing option

i actually find it fun doing ishgard restoration. because lots of my friend did it. and it was during the peak of covid. so we talked all night while doing expert crafting. what actually killed my fun playing the game actually when OCE data center open. because i am an english speaker playing in JP data center. lot of my OCE friend moved to that data center, my circle part into two, because i have close friend in both data center. then it is never been the same ever since. and lacking in content also killed a lot of people interest in playing. which snowball into more people stopped playing because their friend also stopped playing. and sometimes the interest to play the game again just never came back anymore.

i ranked in ishgard resto for botanist, 12 hour days for 10 days straight and let me tell you. the burnout i got for diadem is insane. still havent done back.

which is what most people do but if you look closely at content creators they heavily focus on one aspect of the game so at the end they run out of stuff to do in 14 so they cant play it anymore regularly... thats why you get people like xeno, arthars or here zepla which are complaining about the state of the game (and they do have their points im not saying they're wrong) but they are heavily biased at the fact theres no content "they" like in the game for them to do more of.

True, the PS4 support is going to persist for a hot minute. I don't think we will see that dropped until after Dawntrail.

worth considering that maybe the people looking for this type of content are the vast minority; online is an echo chamber and if the devs can see login numbers not dropping by any substantial degree, they can weigh that against these trendy reddit post complaints also worth considering that everyone bitched, moaned, and abandoned things like Bojza and Eureka until they got bored with everything else; the last two months have been the first time i've heard anyone other than Arthars complain about not having a new braindead grind; acting like this is a longstanding issue for EVERYONE is a bit disingenuous

@@celfhelp people have been complaining for far longer, but of course it wouldnt yet have reached the echo chambers of the "everything is fine" part of the community. I think you see how pointless it is to try to boil down every complaint as the result of echo chambers. "The silent always leave first. If citizens are complaining, then it means they still care." Consider these decade-old words.

​@@celfhelp Bozja and eureka instances were player capped all the time when current. The people whining don't speak for the people who enjoy the content. Same energy as the people whining about DSR checkpoint when it came out not even having extreme trial clears. They're not part of the discussion.

​@@celfhelpin that case i hope the devs take notice of the log in numbers going down currently :)

​​​@@pdoodlethe problem is that the devs know that the log in numbers drop at the end of an expansion. The thing is that the devs plan for this drop every expansion cycle (for things like massive maintenance, internal systems checks, etc.). You can tell because in ShB with the unpredictable influx of new players caught them off guard (though being on a pandemic caused a massive global shortage that didn't allow SE to get new servers in time). Another thing is that according to Lucky Brancho numbers though the number of people have dropped it is still significantly higher than it was back in SB (like a 50% increase, ShB is a bit unreliable due to the outlier conditions). So the devs know there is a drop of players from 6.0 but not enough for them to worry too much if people come back for 7.0 or 6.55 (players getting into the pre-expansion marketing groove that inevitably happens), if the number coming back don't hit early 5.0 levels then they might worry.

Such great timing. Made me laugh hard.

We knew there wouldn't be an endwalker "bozja" ahead of time. And some of us are happy about that. But I don't think anyone is happy that it's just 1500 tomestones, since most of us expected something like anima weapon grind.

​@@bluumberry Like even if it was something simpler like, "We added these special level 90 FATEs to a bunch of the Endwalker zones that drop relic materials and you can spawn them faster by doing the regular zone FATEs" it would have been better than what we got now. At least then we could be out in the overworld doing shit. The most fun I've had in this expansion recently has been the gatherer relics because I'll go out, do my grind for it, and encounter random people also doing their grind for it. It feels really nice.

HI i'm super happy its just 1500 tomes, I can do literally anything and work towards it. Manderville is the best system.

He's asmongolding better than asmongold 🤣

Lmfao that makes no sense, she wants to log in and do stuff but there is nothing to do because they added content that can be cleared in one day and then there is just... emptiness. It's not that hard to understand. Just because your spirit would break with taking on an ultimate prog on release doesn't mean it's the same for others. Imagine understanding that people aren't all one and the same and the world isn't just how you see it.

well i mean technically speaking on an uptime fight your rotation should always be the same, the only things that should move are where you use instants and SOMETIMES leylines, but like, there is an optimal rotation you should never deviate from on uptime fights, and for content with downtime and variable length sections like ultimates _every_ job has rotation variation based on kill time.

Fuck I had completely forgotten about that

There probably were a lot of them, which was likely why they felt okay to skimp on Relic Weapons for this cycle.

im actually ok with it being tied to tomes, if every relic had its own story it would be perfect content. believe me... having to run DR a million times to get the fucking items to upgrade the relics on shb was a massive pain in the ass and it made me hate DR mostly because people would never use their essences/actions correctly/properly or just outright be extremely dumb. people suck off way too much content like bozja or eureka when its mid at best

People did complain about Eureka and Bozja, I love them both but people did complain about it and didn't do it. And then a lot of the same people are now complaining that we didn't get one this expansion it's just stupid imo I don't even think people know what they want... I also hate how people act like we got nothing in return, we got a completely new dungeon system that they've kept building on and will keep being a thing in future expansions in Variant/ Criterion dungeons which is some of the best content they've ever added imo and we got a new deep dungeon + tons of new casual content. We got MORE content this expansion not less but people hyperfocus so much on Bozja and Eureka and overlook everything new we got. I think the Variant/ Criterion rewards sucking is a valid critique but the devs have also acknowledged it and said that they're working on it. On the other hand it does make sense too that they didn't throw too many rewards into it because it was something new they were trying, imagine they added a ton of important rewards to it and then it sucked. And even tho it's good people would quite frankly still complain, there were people flipping out that the P12S mount is '' cute '' and complaining about how they didn't want to do Savage for a cute mount but still want the mount. No matter what the devs do there will be people screaming and whining about it. Especially if they're going to add gearing to Variant/ Criterion it makes sense to be careful with it, and even then most people complaining probably don't even do any content where gear matters.... I don't even understand why some people care about gear when they never step into any relevant content where gear matters at all.

@@jag764 Yeah, this is definitely the case of people don't know what they want. I recall how both Eureka and Bozja were complained about. Shit, the latter, I recall DYING when it was still new content. You know why? The next zone is out, so anyone that was late to the party are left in the dust. And I know, cause I remember revisiting to redo DR and Castrum even as new content, only to quit because only four to five peeps, including myself, joined in when queues finally stop trying to find more people for DR or when Castrum popped. Eureka is devolved to hunt trains and it kept going until the rotation for NM is complete, in which case everyone just leaves.

while it IS true that its downright impossible to create content that keeps you "busy" or wanting to log in all the time, buuuuut at the same time, what MMO players in general are saying, especially the vets of any paticular MMO, is wanting to have content that actually is replayable and actually lasts longer that what we have. plus the formula is just straight up stale. its never a good sign when any piece of content, whatever it may be, legit dies in less than a week. if that piece of content is to succeed in a MMO, it needs to A) last and B) provide an incentive to actually do it. like a really good reward like maybe a mount or like a piece of gear for example. and alot of EW doesn't have that at all. which is where alot of this is coming from. nothing in this expansion should die in a week and there is 0 incentive to even do it to begin with so its like why even bother.

So what I'm gathering from what you're saying is the reward structure is weak right now. Which yeah I could see. I know that you can get the mount really easily in something like criterion/variant, but do they offer anything else in terms of rewards? Like tomes? I know they don't drop gear, which tbh they should. Maybe they could make it take longer to obtain said rewards, but that also feels like it would feel terrible. Also I know Stormblood and Shadowbringers released with PotD and Bozja respectively, and yeah Endwalker hasn't released something similar in terms of replayable content which is a terribly missed opportunity. Although I'm not gonna claim these are easy to just think up and implement while making them feel fresh from previous releases. It really does seem that FFXIV has suffered a bit in the content department because of YoshiP's split attention, but hopefully that won't be the case in the next expansion coming up or any further patches. @@KitaiAryik

@@Pandrawrr YoshiP's attention being split i think is part of the issue whether its being on the board of directors, which wont allow him to leave apparently at this point (being the golden goose with 14) could very well be one of several issues. since his focus is split between 16, 14, and to some extend running SE to a degree. which doesn't help at all. and with criterion rewards are pretty much abysmal to nonexistant at this current point. outside the mount (which can be sold on the market board btw) and maaaaaybe a glam or 2 the ONLY rewards for doing either savage or the normal versions of it is pretty much materia, which is already piss ez to get to begin with, there is 0 reason to even get em in the first place since you can just buy any of the rewards on the marketboard to begin with. so like why even do it. other than to check it out for the first couple days and thats about it. the rewards in 14 have been terrible for yrs. and with gear restricted to dungeons and mostly raids, its difficult to gear multiple classes since the tomestone caps very low with 19 and soon to be upped to 21 jobs next summer with DawnTrail, is a measly 450/week. and i do agree coming up with something like bojza/eureka is never ez to do but if taken out, what do we have that we can do that doesn't die in less than 7 days? that is something that they do need to figure out and it is up to the dev team to do so. while its never an ez thing to do, in the end i think that is something that still needs to be figured out. we MMO players can be a fickle bunch and its never possible to please EVERYBODY and all you can do is make something in the game that can apppeal to as many as possible and keep our attention for more than a couple days. CBUIII just has to figure out how to come up with a system that can be replayable and make use of what is already in the game and give us a reason to actually do it more than a single time or 2.

@@KitaiAryik Yet Eureka and Bozja were very polarizing. The dev team even had to apologize for Eureka because of how badly received it was. This love for Eureka is relatively recent phenomena.

I've been playing since ARR and I quite frankly dunno what people are even talking about. EW if anything has had MORE content than previous expansions, people just hyperfocus entirely on Bozja and Eureka and overlook all the new content we got like Variant/ Criterion, deep dungeons and a ton of new casual content etc. And people also complained about Bozja and Eureka, a lot of the same people who now complain we didn't get one are probably the reason why we didn't because they kept complaining about it when we did get it. I don't like the Manderville grind but at the same time A LOT of people actually do like how easy it is so it's not a black and white issue either the people who dislike it are just more vocal per usual. I'd just love to hear what expansion people think had more content than EW exactly, because they can't name it because it never happened... EW has been the most content rich expansion we've ever gotten... The issue is that people don't do it and then complain there's nothing to do, even when it comes to gearing most people don't even do any content where gear is relevant and matters at all. And yet they at the same time refuse to do anything unless it raises their item level I just don't get the logic.

​​​@@jag764It is less. You say Varient and Criterion without pointing out that both can be fully cleared in under a day. There is 8 months until Dawntrail wtf are people supposed to do with maybe 1-3 days worth of content every 4 months? Unsub and buy any other game out there which will give them more bang for their buck then not come back for Dawntrail because it will likely be the same shit. Ton of new casual content? You mean 1 dungeon per patch and Island Sanctuary which is also pretty content dry. That "content" is 1-2 days per week where you go there for 5 minutes, clear out everything and then set the worker schedule. Even if you try hard to stagger the content you will hit max rank in 2-3 weeks. Once again patch cycles are 4 months. So literally what content? Everyone I know who hasn't unsubbed is scraping the bottom of the barrel for content they still want to do. And what do you mean ilvl isn't relevant? To do Criterion and P1N farming you need ilvls. So if you already cleared the tier, do you want to do another 8 weeks of pf? Not really. That's why people want alternative gearing routes. They don't care if it's suboptimal, just good enough that they can get alt jobs geared up to do Ultimate or Criterion or Criterion Savage because wtf else is there to do? They are looking for things to do and then people like you come in and say "How dare you want to do content you peon."

@@jag764 It isn't that Endwalker is lacking any content at all. It that its lacking content for a specific, very vocal group (but I wager not a minority) of people: the Midcore player. Players that are too hardcore for something like Island Sanctuary, but not hardcore enough to be progging Savage and ultimate consistently. In previous expansions, what would keep these players occupied between patches would be the Relic Weapon, as well as the exploration zones (so Eureka/Bozja). All three of which, for the lack of a better word, are absent in Endwalker, with nothing in to fill that void. Island Sanctuary and variant are too easy, Pvp is too niche and unbalanced, Criterion is too hard and doesn't have the incentive to run it, and they nerfed the exp you get from Eureka Orthos for some god forsaken reason so it still better to just continue Bozja for 80-90. Yes, the content that the midcore would want is still in the game as a whole. Eureka and Bozja still exist. But Eureka is over four years old at this point. Bozja is younger but still several years old. There is a decent amount of that midcore playerbase that are just... done with Eureka and Bozja. And now they have nothing. And as I said, the midcore player is NOT a vocal minority. This is at the least, a sizable group of the player base that has been pretty much abandoned for the past two years. At this point they either have to convert to a hardcore player and find a savage static or do Orthos solos (which they may not be able to do due to irl time commitments or hard caps on their skill or whatever), or do the hyper-casual content they are done with in like 2 hours tops and then are left with the same problem. As far as midcore goes, I think Stormblood was the best for them as far as content offerings go. HoH for leveling alternate jobs, Eureka, an actual relic grind, A trial series with a surprising amount of extra content along with it (it came with two whole dungeons!), Solid rewards from maps that didn't for the most partn plummet in price to below 10k after week 1 (the endwalker map offerings have been admittedly mid if you compare them to the SB and especially SHB offerings, especially in the glamor department).

@@Enderlinkpawnu savage prog is midcore gameplay at best... the fact that you can pick random people and clear it, it immediately makes it midcore... if it was really hardcore, savage would be as hard as ultimate but just shorter fights. bozja and eureka is casual content through and through, requires literally 0 planification and quite the mediocre skill level to do... thats why those are the "catch up zones". both extreme fights (which serve as the introduction of midcore gameplay) and savage (which is midcore well developed) problem is the fact that the replayability sucks monkey ass. (while also gearing in this game also sucks monkey balls) and about your point of selling map rewards (or anything in this game for that matter for the purpose of amassing gil), that point is moot... gil in this game serves 0 purpose, theres nothing in the game that costs gil for you to do except of buying crap you dont want to farm yourself (which is not part of the gameplay loop). its not used for upgrades, its not used to buy ingredients (dont count the base ingredients from the crafters vendors because you can literally go grab them yourself and it renders the shop useless immediately), its not used to buy armor, weapons or tools from vendors... all that has its own currency which renders gil useless.

@@Enderlinkpawnu Yet Eureka was almost universally hated and the dev team apologized about it. Which is why Bozja was optional for the relic grind which actually was praised on the forums. I personally loved Eureka but that was the minority opinion for casuals and midcore players back in the day. It is funny that people have developed a new-found love for that content.

Matsuno is incredibly difficult to work with. I'm sure the decision came from higher-ups.

Apparently the story arc wasn’t very popular in Japan so the fan base they interviewed didn’t show much interest in it.

I have no way of knowing specifically what he meant, but I personally dislike the pandaemonium raids, because as a tank main, having massive hit boxes that make us no different then phys ranged is no fun, even having forced downtime like in e6s is better than something like rubicantes or hegemonies hitboxes, and that’s ignoring how immersion breaking having a human sized enemies hitbox take up 2/3ds of the arena is. Also the constant recentering of bosses gives tanks less to do, aggro is already gone as a mech so all we really have left to do is tankbusters, which is not much. Also they have been overusing body checks recently, and having everyone blow up because 1 guy did something stupid is never fun, it is much better if people doing stupid things makes it so you fail the dps check later so you can still prog even if someone in you pf is trying to hold you back. Instead we get the opposite with excessive body checks and super easy dps checks, which is not really that fun. Also jobs being super simplified just makes bad fights feel even worse.

That paints a pretty good picture for me, thanks. Yeah I've noticed that the game takes away more and more responsibilities away from the player with each expansion. Like with recentering, it takes away some of the nuance that comes with performing the tank role which in turn takes away some of the fun. Also I do wish the hitboxes were smaller to give more of a challenge. Big hitboxes also takes away melee responsibility and having to plan gcds around certain points of the fight. I remember doing e8s and honestly the variance of the boss hitbox where it was small early on and only got a little bigger at the half was pretty fun to play around. I feel that player responsibility in fights is something that the development team needs to hear as feedback, so hopefully there's some that are giving it to them whether it be through official forums or whatnot. The point about body checks, yeah it does suck when it's just because of one person mispositioning or being dead during. When it was things like vuln/damage downs I felt that was at least a good medium where you could make a few mistakes but weren't ultimately punished hard unless you or others made many mistakes as the fight went on. I hope they go back to that philosophy of fight design more than just straight up body checks. I can understand why they simplified things like buff timers and job actions, but they definitely do have to find a way to spice it up because I agree that they all feel similar because of just offloading all damage during that window. Power-creep is also to blame here, since when we get stronger, designing fights that feel fair and up to date get harder. I'm not gonna claim that job balance is easy, especially not with the amount of jobs out, but here's to hoping they figure something out.@@shawnscouten5184

@@Pandrawrr Body checks are just a quicker way to restart the fight vs the damage down abilities. To make damage down matter, you need tight dps checks. That means you could be wasting several minutes fighting a boss with people expecting that they will hit an enrage. So, people call wipes instead. Body check just saves the effort of arbitrarily determining appropriate dps checks. For DSR, they had to tweak a dps check because too few of people were failing it. They arbitrarily determined that adding X seconds would allow Y% of players to pass the check (deciding that Y% was the acceptable number for the fight). I much prefer instant pass/fail mechanics to "did only an acceptable number of people fail a mechanic."

@@Turamwdd the game isnt just designed around week 5 raiders reading guides, damage downs vs body checks are part of fight design to have point during week 1 blind prog and race prog where there is "this is a wall, do this correctly or you wont see any more mechanics" vs "ok you will fail the dps check if you make a mistake here but you can see some more mechanics to theorycraft after wipe" damage checks _are_ tight when its week 1 and you're getting to the last fight with still mostly crafted gear, the usage isnt random, also what meth are you smoking p8s got a 1% hp reduction, DSR received 0 changes, top got bugfixes which involved reduction the duration of the magic vuln of near/far world by half a second, which literally only made the auto attack not kill the main tank, and they also i guess delayed 1 auto attack so the boss can be voked in 1 phase as to not nuke a random party member but DSR has gotten 1 bugfix (brazil tower) and no damage or hp adjustment at all.

it is content that will be one and done but i do believe its setting the base for reflection travelling at some point, so we can freely go from every reflection of the source (y'shtola still wants to go to the 1st and grab some hroth conk) and it will be explored in dawntrail to a completion so we can actually make a new story revolving that maybe

Yeah, I feel you there. I'm still gonna finish up the Manderville relics (Scholar and Summoner are the last two I gotta complete) and then I plan to just take a break until 6.55. I still gotta wrap up the battle pass in Destiny 2, gotta get my money's worth there at least considering how awful Lightfall was. After that? Maybe I'll move back to DCUO or play Mortal Kombat X until 6.55

It’s a breathe of fresh air for me 😂 The previous relic involves so much grind . For once I’m happy that there is only tomestone grind

Yeah, streamers are having a rough go of it because it's just not a game conducive to maining as a streamer unless you raid or do PVP. Asmongold said he noticed when Endwalker first dropped that once you run out of MSQ the viewers leave. That's because FFXIV viewers are mainly there for react content to the MSQ, not the game, itself. That does not mean the game is bad, just that it is not CoD where the skill ceiling is so high that watching a professional will give you more insight into the game and encourage you to watch. I wouldn't watch someone grind out Night in The Woods or Dear Esther, either, or play Resident Evil 4 Remake for every day for 8 hours at a time, either. You don't get anything out of it. Now, this does not mean that there is none of that in the game, as you can see from Raiders, or from watching Pint try to get the world record on Kugane Tower.

It was a bizarre feeling to suddenly be thrown into another "Oh this even *bigger* evil darkness is gonna end the world!" plot when we just had the definitive finale of the entire story. Of all the times I expected to have some narrative downtime, some levity or even slice of life adventures to have a break from the non-stop world ending catastrophes, it would have been now. That's probably why the MSQ has felt so limp in the EW patches, everything was immediately thrown back into the status quo, even the Scion's splitting up didn't last for a single patch.

Eh, this is the Endgame problem all over again. The story MUST go on, and because of that, Thanos just can't be the final boss. I actually hope that Dawntrail kinda skimps on story and just does some random filler that takes you from new activity to new activity, and nothing more. I hope they spend most of their time focusing on the game side of the content. That said, I know I'm in the minority here. FF XIV's story is absolutely fucking solid, I just hate how it eats up so much of the content of the game since I DO play other games and I'm just like "bruh, it's good but we're not talking RDR2, Last of Us, or God of War 2016 here." Not even talking FF9 or old school FFVII. It's just a cool throwback story to really, old school FF like III, IV, and V.

Yeah, that was a huge investment and time sink. People shit on it, but it was my favorite kind of content.

The lack of a exploratory zone was sa calculated risk the devs made for more content as an experiment. Turns out in hindsight it may not have worked out as well as they thought hence why we heard from Yoshi P that they are looking at "new battle content" for DT.

I look back at the chocobo killing 48 players and laugh while telling the story. I don't think I have any stories from endwalker.

Memorizing a single pattern is braindead. Adapting to different patterns takes skill.

You aknowledge the message of not being played everyday constantly, yet you finished your Island in 3 weeks, so you did constantly log in? What is your point exactly. You make no sense. Either log in everyday and accept that at one point you're done or aknowledge the Producers message that its not meant to played daily and constantly. Make up your damn minds, jesus christ.

We didn't forget, i can't take another patch with a therapy session with krille ever again or i will sue them for emotional damage. But in the end it would have been a lot easier to swallow if we had some fun things to click our buttons at and there is just nothing :(

I feel like time in the first slowed down after we brought back the darkness. It seems to flow at the same pace as the source after patched 5.5.

Endwalker is a well done steak though not a mouth watering one.

@@ItsSVO We'll have to agree to disagree. It wasn't as good as ShB (let's be real what actually is) but it was still a solid xpac in a game where the bar is set extremely high, definitely not an abomination that is a well done steak though lol

@@moody5763 the jobs all feel the same and some, in summoners case feels like absolute garbage to play with 0 optimisation. The boring and unrewarding content, bosses all feeling like static punch bags because the hitboxes are bigger than the universe and every single boss that isn’t in the wall teleports to the middle to do mechanics etc. the game went from having the most fun mmo combat to whatever the hell this current iteration is. Stormblood was hands down the best expansion for the game in terms of content and job design minus the story but then that isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things. Most casual content is now far too easy to the point it’s impossible to actually wipe now which results in it being a one and done effectively and causes the content to stagnate.

@@ItsSVO "Stormblood was hands down the best expansion" And a good day to you too sir

Bozja was a pretty nice way to burn time. It gave money, exp, there were two large alliance-like fights, and an okay story. Plus it was tied to the relic grind so lots of people were there. There was mostly fate farming but also Critical Engagements which are kind of like world bosses and duels which are hard fights that are done one on one. So there was a lot to do. I personally did not like it, but it did do a lot to pad out the filler months from Shadowbringers to Endwalker. It now being replaced with nothing is pretty jarring since Dawntrail is very far away so players that are caught up once 6.5 hits will have nothing to do for 8+ months besides farm old content and a lot of veteran players already got everything they wanted out of old content.

@@24hr-Gaming So basically just a timesink that congregated players to give a sense of community?

@@Thundawich Yeah. I wouldn't say it was peak content, but for me it was fun for maybe a week. There were some fun ideas with the essences since it allowed you to tweak how your class works in some wonky and busted ways which on some classes was fun. For example, if you wanted to tank on a white mage, you could use some essence that's good for tanking along with role actions and be a god. So it had some cool ideas, but since none of them carried outside of the zone it was hard for me to care.