Arthur Smith got mad the Saints faked a knee and scored vs. Falcons, a breakdown 

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There's a lot of emotions about this play. And I think I can speak for all neutral fans when I say that this video breakdown helped us understand that Jimmy Graham is still in the NFL.

This happening made a tremendous amount of sense once I realized that Jameis Winston was involved.

Jameis is the embodiment of a Madden player. Goes 30 for 30. Runs up the score for the lols. Does weird celebrations like eating a W. Dudes a character

The extended interview with Jameis deserves a breakdown of it's own. Reporter: I'm being respectful 😤 Jameis: Respectfully, I respect that I'm being respectful 😤😤 And they just go on like that until, I assume, the camera just explodes.

lmao, jameis sure has a history of not taking no for an answer

The issue is NOT that they scored, it's that they lined up in VIctory. There is a reason for VIctory, and that is to tell the other team that you will not be running a play, so we can all prevent injuries. If you use Victory as a fake play you are asking for trouble and it is a dirty move. They could have audible'd to another play to signal their intent to keep the game going.

Good on the Falcons coach for acknowledging that they should have played better football and not been down 24 points

Going for the TD in garbage time to rub salt in the wound of a hated division rival is fine by me, but doing it from the victory formation isn't cool. Look for the Saints to go into victory formation next year and watch their quarterback get absolutely laid out by a linebacker who remembers this.

Honestly, I am just surprised the hand-off didn't turn into an interception.

Pretty rare that every take on a situation has me like “yeah, that’s fair”

Man, Winston would be a natural at pro wrestling. His energy was 100% "Heel who doesn't know he's a heel, cutting a promo"

What you are watching is a coach absolutely losing the locker room right there.

Lions fan here. Jamal Williams not getting a touchdown this season after being the league leader last season speaks volumes about the Lions offensive line.

In general I'm against "don't score" unwritten rules because the team that is losing is still trying to score. But I do think it is bad to abuse victory formation in this manner. If something is explicitly written into the rules to prematurely end a play a la knees, QB sliding, and spikes, I don't think they should be allowed to be faked.

Woody hayes of ohio state was once up like 40 points on arch rival michigan and after scoring a touchdown went for two. After the game he was asked how come he went for two and he replied because i couldn't go for three. Lol classic woody

I'm cool with going for the TD but doing it in the victory formation is bullshit lol

I like the reasoning but not the execution. As some of you already said, should've just lined up like a normal goal line play.

Calling out #55’s effort killed me!! 😅

There was a Falcons coach that did a drive-by barrage of insults while Smith confronted the Saint guy in the middle of the field. I'm surprised you didn't cover him.

every time i'm reminded of jimmy graham being on the 2023 saints i feel like i'm learning it for the first time

I fucking love you jomboy everytime I want a concise breakdown of something I may not get in a sport, you got that shit on lock, even for some obscure ones dude, you genuinely have no idea how much your appreciated.

Jameis celebrated that brilliant play afterwards by going down to Publix and grabbing some crab legs.

Williams going from his most touches in his career to his least in one season was definitely a surprise.

When your players disobey a coach like that, it shows how little respect they have for him. And when he throws them under the bus like that, it shows why.

Oh man, that interception return highlight that you opened with is golden.

Once at University (in the UK, low quality football haha) the other team were up 21-0 and chose to try and score in the last play of the game. Their QB got sacked and one of our D-linemen got a 90ish yard scoop and score. Good times!

"I thought my under-usage of Taysom Hill would've made it clear we're not about scoring touchdowns." - Dennis Allen

It's one thing to get yer boy a TD in the waning seconds of a blowout, but to line up in the "victory" formation while doing it .... Smells bad.

Yeah, my only problem was the victory formation. Even if you think it's right to get the guy a touchdown there, it's a chicken shit way to do it.

1:30 What surprised me the most in this video is the fact that Jimmy Graham is still an active player in the NFL !

What this does is gives defenses a reason go all out and possibly hurt someone who has lined up in a known formation that signals they are taking a knee to run the clock out. Then when someone gets seriously injured, they can say “You saw what the Saints did. Not falling for that trick.”

Thanks Jomboy for not really taking a side and providing us with the lip-reading point of view.

I'm a Falcons fan (pain) and I'll say this: this adds more fuel to the rivalry, which I think is fun, personally, but taken too far by some. I want to enjoy football and trash talk. I don't want to be enemies. Haha. But I see both sides of it. I'd be mad if I was a player or coach for the Falcons. You're winning by so much, why fake a TD? To make it easier for your guy? We can get injured by not knowing, which was mentioned. If I were the Saints coach I'd be upset because that was a "dirty" (faking a knee up by that much with so little time left) play and they disobeyed you. You have to know your players are going to follow your direction as a coach. I'd celebrate the success of our boy but they'd all be running more in drills for sure. Lol For the Saints players, I get it. You want to have a victory for your boy. You should celebrate not only the victory for your boy but the win of the game as well. Maybe not the best way to go about it, but it's done already. Celebrate, pay the consequences (probably more drills), and move on and try to do better than that. I'd just say don't do plays you wouldn't want run against you. Trick plays, or plays like this when it's the game on the line or a really close game are one thing, but it just seems really poor sportsmanship. If anyone disagrees, I respect your opinion. I'm not gonna be getting into it with anyone. I'm here to love the game and have comradery with fellow fans of sports and JomBoy!

Classic Jameis isn't it? He's so hyped from his own inspiration, he can't see the fault in anything he said or did.

0:10 My man said "This breakdown is brought to you by giraffe kings", i heard it!

“That’s not who we are, that’s not what we do” …. Well, since it happened, it kind is who you are and what you do.

All this does is tell the defenses of the league that they can go light up the O-Line when they line up in victory formation. At some point someone will get hurt on a dumb play like this. The players should know better than this but, lets be honest, we're not talking about the brightest bulbs in the box here.

What I'm hearing is a coach that doesn't have control of his team.

I’d be embarrassed if my only touchdown this season was a cheap one.

Shows you the respect they have for their coach😂 I'll be surprise if winston is on the team next year

Idk. A touchdown that way, I would think that wouldn't be a satisfying one to get. The defense think you're kneeling so there's basically no pressure to get into the endzone lol.

My only concern is the victory formation. If you want to run up the score and disrespect the other team then please do. That's a natural part of team rivalry and doesn't really matter in the long run. Running a trick out of victory is unacceptable. It puts players in a vulnerable position where they are no longer safe using victory formation. It's equivalent to a fake glove tap in boxing; it's cheap, dangerous, and unsportsmanlike. The fact that it was basically a player mutiny makes it even more ridiculous and pretty much guarantees that Jameis Winston is getting fired.

As a coach of sports for 10+ years...If the team disobeyed the coach.....the team doesn't respect the coach. This started by a back up qb? Ive liked Williams since his byu days. Im curious how he feels?

How is that a satisfying touchdown for Williams?

Hey, I'm good with it. So long as the Aints offensive line is good with getting their knees blown out trying to take a knee before halftime. 🙃

Few years ago the Seahawks wanted to get David Moore (#3 WR) an extra reception for an incentive bonus at the end of the game. And I'm pretty sure Russell Wilson went to someone on the defense (49ers) and said 'hey we're just gonna throw this guy a little touch pass behind the line and he's gonna go down' - and that's exactly what they did. They came out in a normal formation, said exactly what they were gonna do and did it. I dunno if Jameis or the Saints said anything to the Falcons but to me you shouldn't be in victory formation *when the game is out of reach* if you're gonna run at them like that - because victory formation is both teams saying 'the game is over' and it breaks that unspoken agreement. There was that instance at the end of regulation in SB 51 (the 28-3 game) where the Patriots had it tied up and the Falcons punted the ball back to them. They ran a fake out of victory formation and got a decent amount of yards - didn't score though. To me that's fine. But yeah, I don't have a hat in the ring of the NFC South, but I'd be mad if someone did to me what the Saints did in that situation. So.

Winston making sure to put that extra nail in his coffin of his career as a starting QB. Dude is such a dunce.

The players want to give their guy a TD, then man up and tell the defense you're gonna do that. Otherwise someone can get seriously hurt for nothing.

As a huge Jon Bois fan, I could never forget this rivalry

Anyone who's seen the Secret Base documentary on the Falcons knows this is exactly how the Falcons/Saints rivalry operates. They've done shit like this to each other over and over.

They lined up in the victory, basically a Trojan horse for their sneaky touchdown.

Dont do it in Victory Formation..

jamaal going from leading the league to only getting 1 td is sad

I think the biggest gripe is that it was victory formation. I've had several refs tell both teams to chill its victory formation when i was playing. I also remember Schiano being called a villain for going all out against the offense when they were in victory/QB kneel. All i know is that the saints better be prepared for other teams to not respect their victory formation next year, and they better not complain one bit

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Gets fired a hour later

It was a Saints vs. Falcons game. Who didn't see something like this potentially happening no matter which team had the big lead?

As a Saints fan and seeing the s*** the Falcons have done over the last 45+ years I liked it. I remember many times, including a 62-3 blowout, where ATL has run the score up - you can't beat the Falcons by enough by any means available.

If the only way the guy gets a touchdown this year is through a BS play, then he still didn't get a touchdown this year.

i think the problem isn’t the fact that they ran a play to let him score, but rather disobeyed. can’t do that.

Winston may have made his last snap in the NFL a memorable one.

"Im sure there will be a civil conversation in the comments.." Jimmy this is why we love you.

Imagine Jameis in Any Given Sunday - changing the dialogue in the huddle; script says a basic run play, Jameis audibles to a fea flicker

"the rivalry you always forget about" is so true. but like, legit, these teams hate each other. Not that I consistantly remember that

Gasp!! Jameis Winston did something classless?!? Whats happened to him? Hes just not the same guy who stole crab legs before the draft.

The only problem I have with this is that a bunch of guys who won’t be here next year wrote a check that someone else has to cash.

This is one of the weird situations where I feel like everyone is right. I understand why the Falcons (former) coach was pissed. I understand why the Saints coach was pissed but also "Hey, don't be mad at *me*!" I understand why the players wanted to get their guy a TD. Just a lot of "Yes. I agree."

Never had a problem with people running the score up, especially professional athletes that are trying to build their stats to get better contracts or hit performance incentives. That being said, directly disobeying the coach is where the NO players went wrong. I could also hear a case for the fact that they tricked them with victory formation being wrong. Sure run up the score, but be men about it

There was no career record at stake, no final curtain call for the guy, no monetary bonus to be had and no memory playing for the SB ring. Why then?? Why didn’t his team love this guy so much during the earlier or mid part of the season to let him score?? I’d bench them all.

It's a generational thing. If you did this in the 70's or 80's, someone would have gotten their ass handed to them on the field.

1) As a Falcons fan, I was glad that this happened bc it may have moved the needle just enough to fire Arthur Smith (as I've wanted to happen for the past 2 months), so thank you for that Saints 2) The Saints players got their karma later when they also failed to make playoffs bc of a GB win...so it all is fine by me 😂

Jameis Winston's car plates read "Pick 6"

Usually it is Jameis Winston's inability to live up to his potential that kills coaches, now he is doing it by ignoring play calls.

Just because Jameis convinced 10 other guys to run a play doesn’t mean the entire team disrespects their HC. It just means JW doesn’t respect DA. Or that he knows he’s out the door and there’s nothing he can do about it. Either way, Jameis is sending a clear measure to owners and front office personnel that he doesn’t take orders well.

Number 1 was the victory formation. That's what they were mad about. Just don't cry next time a team goes into victory formation and a LB comes flying in and takes out the QB.

Winston going against the coach and leading that, not caring how disrespectful it is or how bad it makes his own coach look. I respect the coach throwing them under the bus 😂

I remember this happened along time ago and the great Jimmie Johnson said “if you don’t want them to score on you, stop em”!!! So putting 41 points wasn’t disrespectful, but 48 was!?!?!?

As an Australian I find it so weird that there are these hidden rules of ethics in American sports, because of Jomboy I have seen it happen in Baseball, NBA and NFL. In Australia if there is that big a gap of skill, you get dominated, take the loss and get humiliated. I could never imagine a game of AFL, Rugby or NBL etc. where an opposing team starts to coddle the other team, if you loose by 100 points you get laughed at as you come off the field/court and the winners celebrate even harder.

I'm not sure which is worse...the fact that Winston had the audacity to call that play out of the Victory Formation or the fact that Williams lowered himself to the point of accepting that THAT was an honorable way to erase a 0. Therefore, that makes it a BIGGER ZERO all around for those involved!

Seahawks did this a few years back to get a backup receiver a catch so he could hit his bonus. Pete was actually happy the players overruled him

Only time i haven't seen Winston throw a pick

I don't mind running up the score. But the fact that they lined up in victory formation is the problem. Just like you said, players could get hurt and honestly it's cheap as hell.

On one hand, I think it's great that the Saints coach came out and said that. Shows strong moral character and commitment to sportsmanship. On the other hand it's kind of wild that he came out and buried his team in public. He could definitely have ripped them one later, in private, but at the press conference I think he maybe should have evaded the question or just said there was a miscommunication, or that he appreciates the competitive spirit of the players or something. Unless they were all just second string guys who he doesn't care about, or something.

He got fired right after too Most fitting way to end Arthur Smiths reign

Jamieson stilling a touchdown in a victory formation is like picking up crab legs from a supermarket and leaving without paying. Oh wait, he did that too.

Dark time here without baseball to do break downs 😱

" The rivalry everyone forgets about"💀

Saints fan here. We are not happy with our coach not standing behind our players.

If the NFL can make a rule that QBs are down once a slide is initiated, they can create a rule that if a team is on victory formation, the ball cannot be advanced past the line of scrimmage. The team doing this absolutely puts players at rick of being injured.

As a huge falcon fan, this scene summed up Smiths time in ATL perfectly… couldn’t wait to have him kicked out

My favorite part of living in Louisiana (not a saints fan... god no) is they are all happy about it an saying "should've stopped us". Come next season when it happens to them they'll take it to the supreme court to get the down replayed.

I’ve always thought unwritten rules were annoying, but this feels different and I think a lot of it comes from disobeying the coach

Just because it’s disrespectful doesn’t mean it isn’t allowed. People need to grow up.

Ahhhh Jameis Winston…the gift that keeps on giving lol. Protect that man at all costs lol

Most of us saints fans that I’ve interacted with this season want DA fired. The players shouldn’t have defied his play and run it in under v formation and DA should have just let them run two plays and given a polite explanation that they did it for Jamal and but as a snub. I hope this makes the front office rethink giving DA a third season, he’s lost the locker room at this point and I’m not sure how he gets it back.

*the guy that stole crab legs still doesn't take accountability n makes excuses for the bad decision he made, not surprised*

One of those situations where both things can be true.

55 did a Jedi mind trick on 65.😂

No idea why in America its accepted to not play hard till the end. In Australia that would almost be disrespectful not taking the opponent seriously