Zack Greinke wasn’t being mean to the umpire like people thought, a breakdown 

If that banana unpeeled itself then what would happen if it peeled itself?

@@allanshpeley4284”Sir, there are children here “

See at first I thought he should have said he "peeled himself" but I think "unpeeled" is ok in the case of a man wearing a banana peel costume. Unpeeled would only be wrong if he were actually a banana or the costume was unpeeled and he removed only the banana flesh part of the costume. .

Best part of this video for me, and I love Zack Greinke!

PEELING, DUMBBELL!!!!

Miss him on the dodgers

We all will. Sure wish he was with a really good team.

Shit. I lost track of time this year. One thing I wanted to do was catch one of his games.

is it really like grenke to retire?

@@21st6 dude was contemplating retiring to start mowing lawns, yes, it's extremely Greinke to retire

I like it when pitcher frame pitchs that has a human element I can understand and can atribute to player ability, I just hate when umps are flatout bad

Same here. I've learned more about baseball from the past 5 years of Jomboy breakdowns than all my 45 years of being a casual fan.

For me it was the banana commentary.

Catchers really run the game sometimes, I know it's a team effort but catchers are always pulling double duty it seems

I'm honestly such a casual I don't know what this means lol. Why does he tell the umpire he's pitching from the wind up ? Is it a rule you have to tell them when you do ?

He’s a true pro. Elite. I don’t watch baseball anymore so couldn’t even tell you who the top 10 pitchers have been in the league over the last year or decade. However, I used to watch and I’m a sports fanatic, so just from watching the second pitch he made this video, that 91mph fastball, I could really see the difference in skill and execution when Greinke is the one making the pitch. It’s just beautiful as a spectator to Watch him throw a ball. And everything else he does. It’s on another level and if you don’t see it, you gotta watch more players pitch.

greinke built different. touched by tism

@@wingdingdmetrius8025 just tickled by the tism lmao

He’d have to be human to experience pressure 😂

With social anxiety, pitching isn’t pressure-talking to people you don’t know, though? 😨

the best part lol

we all know that feeling

It’s one of those life skills. You can’t always get what you want. Gotta be able to handle it gracefully when it happens because losing your cool never brings it to you after all.

@@MDK2_Radio Getting mad probably would have made the UMP call against him even more!

But it's entirely possible that he would have acted exactly the same way without the bad call. Greinke doesn't emote, and he needed to tell the ump "windup".

Outrageous missed call.

Greinke rules He's a smart guy in his own world

@@CurtisDensmore1yeah but he doesn’t walk to home plate every time a runners on third😂

​@@CurtisDensmore1 the batter would have struck out though for the third out therefore he wouldn't have needed to tell the ump

Yadi is the best catcher I’ve seen in decades. I’m so sad he’s retired. I love watching him play, and hated when my team had to play against him.

Yeah. Its for Balk rules.

Same. Not sure why tho. I mean it should be pretty obvious when they are. I know there are some exceptions where some pitchers have weird windup, and it makes sense in that situation. Haven't seen this guy so idk

Pitchers did not have to “declare” until a few years ago when MLB changed the rule because some umps and runners could not tell what a sideways pitcher would do, windup or stretch. Sideways is pivot foot parallel to rubber in both stances. To tell the truth I haven’t seen a sideways pitcher you couldn’t tell the difference but some umps and runners can’t.

I played baseball through high school we never had to say that, it's incredibly obvious when somebody is doing a windup

​@@swagmuffin9000😊 exactly it makes no sense

If "peeling" means to take off a covering material, wouldn't "unpeel" mean to put your peel back on?

Well said sir

Coming to say the same thing. This wasn't just a fun breakdown, this was also very educational.

@@lambert854 Right? It's the details. I know about framing the plate. I didn't know about techniques, starting at the bottom of the zone and moving up to frame.... I'm not a catcher, never been one, but back in my day, I know the general rule was to try to bring your mitt back to center. That's about as much as I knew about it before! 🤣🤣🤣

> I'm a lifelong athlete, played every sport, blah blah blah.. love it

Never was

He is not eccentric, he is maybe the most introverted player ever. Sometimes this looks a little bit odd.

@@sorenludwig3978 He's both.

@@sorenludwig3978 eccentric means "unconventional and slightly strange". i would say you're own description of him meets that criteria.

his interview before his start in game 7 of the world series with houston is one of my favorite things ever in baseball and it's not even during a game. It's just fantastic.

@@blahblorp9015 yeah I think I was fooled by my mother tongue, in which eccentric has a other connotation.

maybe, but the away team won every game in that series up to that point (and Nats obviously ended up winning on the road), so who knows!

Greinke up to that point had been bad all postseason. He never had a good outing in 2019. Game 7 he did, but hitters are now seeing him 3+ times from 6 inning onwards. Given how bad he was previously and how he kept everything under control in game 7... it was a matter of time before he gives up some hits which he did in that 7th inning for the bullpen change. It is very unlikely he was gonna pitch a shutout, so at some point you have to go to bullpen. Astros only scored 2.... Same argument for Rays pulling Snell in 2020. Rays lost but they only scored 1 run, even if they didnt pull snell, was he really gonna pitch a 9 inning shutout? lol

I totally agree and remember that!

Not to take anything away from your story but I think that's clearly Sean Murphy. Flowers never caught Collin McHugh.

should be 32

I mean for this reason alone just make sure he gets the K ump, the fans want the milestone. Though Zack would probably say he hasn’t noticed it, he just wants to bat one more time 😂

He's ranked 57th out of 64 catchers in pitch framing. Yes he is bad at it, at least compared to players like Sean Murphy, Jonah Heim or Patrick Bailey. That doesn't mean he's a bad catcher, just bad at pitch framing

Perez has been consistently bad at framing through his entire career. I'm not sure if Fangraphs' framing numbers are pitches or runs compared to average or whatever, but his career mark is -113

Salvador Perez by the metrics is one of the worst defensive catchers of all time

TL;DR: pitching from the windup means he's pitching with a full windup, which takes more motion to generate momentum, as opposed to pitching from the stretch, which is shorter. You can look up the Price Rule if you want to know why he has to tell the umpire which position he is using. In baseball's rules, there are two defined positions for pitchers, which are the windup position and the set position. The windup position would be used if you are pitching with a full windup, which could include things like taking an extra step (back or to the side), raising their front leg higher, or whatever other motion pitchers use to generate momentum. The set position is used if you are pitching from the stretch. This is cuts out some of the motions, making the delivery quicker, and as such, is used when there are runners on base. If you used the full windup while a runner is on first or second they would have a lot more time to steal a base. You can do the full windup if you are not worried about runners stealing, primarily when there are no runners on base or in situations like this with a runner on third. The MLB introduced a rule, nicknamed the 'Price Rule', in 2017 which required pitchers to tell the umpire which position he was pitching from when there is a runner on third. The umpires need to know so they can more effectively determine if the pitcher balked, and this rule was created to make it more clear. There's a lot going on for the umpire to watch out for and balks can be complicated, so they just wanted to prevent the few incidents that may result out of this confusion.

@@cheeseyman101 Thanks man. Did not know this. Always thought you had to pitch from the stretch with runners on

Came to the comments looking for this question. Found it and an excellent answer! Thank you for asking and thank you for answering.

​@@cheeseyman101great explanation I never knew this myself, with not being more than a casual fan myself these days... And the whole balk rule --has always been a tough one to grasp, but this makes sense I guess so the umpire knows your intentions.

Really not his style of video. Plus, most viewers would either already know that, or could find that info with a 20 second google search.

All that would do is lead to a bunch of comments that he A) forgot a stat B) gave a statement too much or too little importance C) is talking about things that ruin baseball If you want to become a billionaire, figure out a valid stat for defense, because all of the ones out there right now don't work.

@@seantimmons5900 "lead to a bunch of comments" presumably after a bunch of views. I, too, endorse the suggestion.

You should go to someone like Foolish Baseball or Baseball’s Not Dead for videos like that.

The nuance and small ball are one of the biggest reasons I love baseball.

Those 3 years with the Dodgers, he put up amazing numbers. 1.66 ERA in 2015...legend

I wouldn't even call it cheating, it's like selling a foul in Basketball: even if you aren't getting touched if it looks close enough then you'll get the call more often than not

It's more a skill than it is cheating 😂.

Its the position hes pitching from , its either a windup or a stretch and they have different uses depending on where the runners are on the bases, in certain situations the pitcher needs to let the umpire know that he is going to do a windup next pitch or they might call a balk

It's the full pre-pitch delivery motion that pitchers use when there are no runners on base. It's the same basic concept (lift/kick leg, stride towards home plate, pitch ball) but the windup starts with the pitcher facing his body towards home...as opposed to the stretch which has the pitcher facing more towards the side. The change in body position makes the delivery motion take longer...so they don't use it with runners on.

I'm just happy to hear that there are Astros fans who don't undervalue Greinke and who hate Maldofato --- signed "With Love from Seattle"

Rare awesome Astros fan

From the windup, with a full motion, is the normal way of pitching. From the stretch means a sort of abbreviated delivery to prevent the base runner from being able to steal as easily. With runners on base pitchers usually pitch from the stretch. Greinke is unique (in oh so many ways) and goes back to the windup with a runner on third.

​@@strange-universeAlways interesting to see how two different people answer the same question differently, correctly, without reading the other's. Good to get multiple perspectives. Your answer was probably better since I mostly focused on something he didn't technically ask about xD

When there's no Runners on base you can afford a longer windup to generate more momentum, but with runners on base the extra time means they would just steal every pitch. So the "stretch" is the shorter pitching motion you use when runners are on base vs the "windup" being the full motion when no one is on

Yeah...he's pitching as if the bases are empty. Not too worried about the runner trying to steal home in those situations.