Ashwin Willemse Supersport Incident | South Africa (2018) 

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I just want to applaud Motshidisi Mohono for handling the situation so professionally after Ashwin left

How to end an argument in SA: Apartheid

The funniest thing is the fact that black people don't want to be called "quota players", but it's black people who implemented the quota system. If you don't want be called a quota player fight for the merit system to return!

It was a disagreement guys not everything is racist seriously.

The crazy thing is that the minister of sport called for botha and Mallets suspension without any evidence. God help us.

I do not know what happened off air, but Ashwin Willemse was very unprofessional. He should have dealt with that issue off air bcz it happened off air.

For the South Africans what are your views on the quota system for selection? Without it will black players be overlooked and marginalized or will South African rugby develop and select the best available players regardless of colour? I'm from New Zealand so i'm looking from the outside in but it seems the only way to avoid the stigma of being called a "quota player" is for the entire quota system to be scrapped regardless of what outcomes it might yield.

Unfortunately we live in a country where Double Standards seem to be the order of the day.

Hitting the nail on the head once. One more thing I found interesting is people commenting that Naas and Nick is laughing (at Ashwin), yet Motshidisi Mohono, a lady of colour, is laughing too.

Race card and white privilege is getting stale now Renaldo. When is the victim, entitled mentality going to end?

It's time to drop the victim mentality..

Am I the only one that does not understand whats going on

The only aspect I can disagree with is the notion that Ashwin Willemse was a "fantastic" rugby player. He was just one of many who played for the Springboks after 94. Same as it is not Botha and Mallets fault that they played during the Apartheid era it is nobody's fault Aswin played during the quota era. If it is acceptable for Willemse to accuse them of being racists simply because they played before 94, then Willemse must accept that he will always be regarded as a quota player. The politicians gave Botha and Mallet the Apartheid tag same as the politicians gave Willemse the quota tag. If Botha and Mallet should have refused to play for segregated teams then Willemse should have refused to play for quota teams. Willemse rigthly deserves his quota tag.

Nick Mallet touched him on his studio..

Thanks for bringing this into light Mr Gouws

This guy is gaining quite a few viewers, I'm glad to see such growth from a local channel :) well done Mr Gouws you've always brought you're viewers quality content and an unbiased debate.

Ok !! , can we all just agree that nothing offensive happened on camera and that even if something happened behind the scenes, the outburst was unprofessional.

Couldn't agree more. Firstly I'd love to know the context behind this 'meltdown'. What was actually said to offend Willemse? Secondly, I don't care how offended you are, you don't walk off a set! You are letting down your team, camera crew etc and airing dirty laundry is incredibly unprofessional. You suck it up, do your job, and then confront the individuals OFF CAMERA. How can you slap SuperSport, your colleagues and the viewers in the face like that? You got offended, felt entitled, and walked off set during a broadcast. Surely that is a breach of contract and should be an instant dismissal. You, Mr Willemse, have just highlighted the BIGGEST problem in South Africa: SELF-ENTITLEMENT. You made it about race and automatically that should save you from being fired and prompt an immediate response about Nick Mallet and Naas Botha getting dismissed. For all the younger viewers, that see you as a ROLE MODEL, they too will see that as the way to treat things when they are unhappy about something. Instead of dealing with it head on, throw the dirty laundry all over the place and mentioned something about how you are being patronized and then say the magic word, "apartheid" and what ever you do then will be safe. You, Mr Willemse, have just created the notion that as someone of colour, it is OKAY to storm off publicly in a professional environment, nevermind how many people you let down, and what's more, there are people FIGHTING to get a job every day and you've just pissed all over yours, which by the way you should be HIGHLY privileged and grateful to have, because you felt offended. Being offended doesn't justify your actions and it doesn't mean you are right. YOU, MR WILLEMSE, owe Nick Mallet, Naas Botha, the SuperSport team and the WHOLE OF SOUTH AFRICA your deepest heartfelt apology and resign immediately. If it comes to light that there was indeed racist/patronizing intent - I'm happy to eat my words and apologize. But there is no proof as of yet.

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NAAS is BAAS!! 😂

Don't pick a side too. Let's all wait till further notice neh😏😏

There's absolutely no evidence of racism here. All in Willemse's head. Chips on both of his shoulders

Hello Renaldo!! I remember when you were Rendeer on RU-vid! I used to watch you a lot about 9 years ago. Keep up the good work!

Found you by searching for this video. Great stuff, will stay tuned to all your content.

Nick Mallett has never called Willemse a quota player on live TV. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have off set either (but if he did, then they should've settled that off air). As to them playing in the apartheid era : So what ? Are they responsible for the dates of their birth, which led to them playing their best rugby during that time ? Does that make them any less good players ? Ashwin Willemse surely showed his lack of emotional intelligence and immaturity of spirit. Why they didn't get him off air a long time ago beats me (he had shown signs of this insecurity before on air). I think : Good riddance, when I watch a sports program, I want to see professionalism (regardless of politics), and not listen to child-like mentalities.

The Minister of Sport getting involved on one side...unbelievable.

Renaldo, love your work. Keep it up. Wish more people in this country could think like you.

This was unprofessional. And even if there was something legit that happened, he now looks like the idiot because of how he handled it.

Very mature and objective take on this matter Renaldo. Your concerns are mine too...I just wish that in this beautiful country the race card could be given a red card.

Are we watching sports or Jersey Shore. Sipping tea.

This was well said and as a coloured I don't see why we must resort to apartheid era for everything that happens and blame it for everything as well. if they want to come with race and discrimination into sports then they needs to focus on the soccer which we still cant play a decent game and beat the weakest of teams even if we should play against ourselves

There are 2 versions 1. Mallet asked the producer to let Ashwin do the opening remarks on the game because he did not get a change to speak after the Sharks game and he deemed it to be patronizing 2. He wasn't in the studio during the game and had no notes on the game and they deliberately asked to let him speak first to expose him, as it happens a lot where Nic and Naas have to give their notes to Ashwin to safe the day. And the only way out was to play the race card.

Just like you, thousands of us watched the clip numerous times to establish what caused Willemse's tirade and none could be found. The fact that black twitter as well as the minister immediately reach for the race card says a lot about our new, democratic, improved SA. What do they know or see in the clip that most of us don't see? For the past 24 years this has been the trend in this country and it is reaching new levels of absurdity eg you may now not call an African a 'Black' man.

Every time I go to Nandos and order lemon and herb I worry that I will be called racist for not going full peri peri extra hot.

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Really wish more people in this country evaluated situations like this rather than lashing out

Quota selection or any other discriminatory selection will always have that problem - your achievements would be perceived as handed to you on a platter, even when your achievements are deserved on merit. These discriminatory policies are founded on good intentions, but they perpetuate in my opinion, an inferiority complex that weighs you down on your way out of misery.

I like the B.I.G poster in the background....Freddy Mercury is cool as well... Let me tell you what I don't like,Racism! It's so outdated. I actually don't have time to discuss race issues. Black; White; coloured; Indian....We're all human beings under one God. Let's learn a new language the language of love.

Good one for #1 on trending man ;)

#1 on trending pal! Go RG!!! Great vid

We as a nation cant fix what apartheid did by switching over to another version of apartheid - we need to work as a single nation and establish smart constructive debates - not fall back on sensationalism and media hype by screaming racism at every encounter. Thanks for the vids Renaldo - you are fighting a tough fight 😏

If they said something super racist.....why did the black lady not also leave or even mediate or even try defend Ashwin???

Well said mnr. At no stage whatsoever did Nick make any comment(on air) about Ashwins quota status. According to a source within the studio, Ashwin was late again for the umpteenth time, and Nick and Naas put him on the spot as a joke, and unfortunately Ashwin did not see it as such. Now 2 great commentators/analysts are being labeled as racits. Shocking !!!!!!!!

so glad this #1 on trending. tired of all the professional victims

The SAAAAARK's ........

Yeah, we don't know the full story but people will always pick sides when it comes to race and what I see happening is sort of an echo chamber of people arguing with no real results. Furthermore...what does his hissy fit have to do with disussing Rugby strategies? You know...the reason why he's being paid a high class salary. Guy should suck it up and shed a tear in his expensive car.

Congrats Renaldo. You are the man

"Also please be sure" hahaha. Nice videos mate.

The only thing that can happen now is the 3 of them apologizing for what happened on air and then sort outh the problem without the public opinion.

Hey Ranoldo, I just knew you were going to be on the ball, no pun intended, with this incident. I am subscriber because of your intellectual unbiased viewpoints which I have often said in your videos I agree with you despite us being a full generation apart. My 5cents worth - clearly Ashwin was upset, I could hear it in his voice. No we don't know what transpired before hand so nobody has the right to make any accusations regarding race or the analysts themselves whether you like their anayses or not. BUT I am here with one really overlooked aspect, the professional way the woman, should I ignite a rasist fact by adding her skin colour., handled the entire episode. Props to her, ma'am you deserve more recognition than being an anchor on Supersport Rugby. More than that it would be premature to add anything, but ensure that professional lady host gets acknowledged in her handling and defusing of such a volitile situation.

Politics are not about the truth, its about the perception of truth, thereby strengthening various political parties. The rest of us merely fall in line with the tunes of the Pied Piper.

Thumbs up renaldo. Well done for not being biased. It’s best not to assume anything without evidence and I look forward to hearing what exactly happened. Hope there is a follow up video

Nick and Naas were set up and they didn't realize it before it was too late.

Good, impartial video. too little evidence to be making judgements.

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Man your channel has grown

I hered about this yesterday.

Ai. I have no more words for these things... it is just a shame. I hope they dont remove any of the the panel members because i love their different opinions after a game.

They were just giving him a hard time as sports castors, he was asked a question that he immediately attempted to pass on to Naas and he shut it down, and he caved in a very inappropriate manner. As for the minister all i've got to say is SIT DOWN MAN.

Now we know what happened. It was the physical email that Mallet sent to Supersport. Why did he not just say he did not want to work with Willemse? Ashwin found out about the email before the show, working with a person that don't want to work with you. The rest is on television. But, few things I would love to know from Mallet Did he see Ashwin incompetent? Why did he not discuss it with Ashwin? Why did he send a email to Supersport, knowing that it will get to Ashwin? Did he expect Ashwin to overlook the email? When you refer to quota players, it gives an indication there they were not selected by merit, rather skin colour. Lastly, with quota players a world cup was won or were the quota players just sitting on the sideline?

That’s how it works. Always

Much better from you. We are so sick of being sorry for the color of our skin. Wish people in SA can start looking ahead instead of towards the past. The past will drag you down.

Damn we geting on the trending tab well done

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I agree with your point 100%. You said that if any footage surface that NM and NB were racist you will apologise, but Renaldo I can guarantee you if there is footage or evidence that it was NOT a racist incident, there would be NO apologies from those who used the racist narrative.

Always likes to play the race card 😂

I was also really puzzled when I saw this clip from Supersport because I had no idea what it was about and there is no way to understand it by viewing the material...

Your unbiased perspective is very refreshing. Keep at it!

First of all this has nothing to do with Naas and Nick .It's all to do with AW turning a discussion into a race issue .The hostess had no issues with Naas or Nick just with AW since she still states this discussion was going great until snowflake AW sulked like a 2 year old boy and was very unprofessional .The hostess was fine with Naas and Nick even joking with them after spoilt brat walked off like a kid on the play ground .Nothing to with race at all .Fact 1 Naas and Nick have been saying this for years about Quotas being bad for SA sport cause this is what you get from it ,insecure black players not knowing if they are in teams on merit or just to fill the quota .This has been discuss for years ,nothing new .NZ ,Aus ,Eng ,France ,Ireland ,wales ,etc have been saying this for years that it would destroy SA rugby and it has.Choose players on Merit not colour .Keep our stupid Minsters out of sport cause ANC destroys everything they touch .Now just look how AW reacts ,like a 2 year old child ,when his opinion is challenge ,he reverts to bring in race .AW was a good rugby player agree ,but this is all thanks to a terrible system create by a pathetic government party the ANC .

Look the sad thing is that he was (as good as he was) a quota player, just as he is a quota presenter, and I feel very sorry for those who really deserved to be in any position for that matter, and gets labeled a quota player. That is the danger of any quota system like affirmative action, and sports quota's, university quota's we will never know who really made it on their own, and who are just quota players. This also creates a false sense of achievement. Stop all quota's, then each one make it on their own merit. This will be fair to all.

Thanks for this, my Facebook page is full of friends posting this, I scroll by as it isnt interesting to me, but I dont mind listening to you, explaining this hissy fit.

Hi, the problem with many white South Africans (including you) is that they don't want to admit that we are all different. Stop saying things like "it's always about race in this country" or "it always comes down to the colour of your skin in South Africa". The very FIRST step to moving forward as a country is by acknowledging each others differences because if we don't do that then we will never truly understand why others feel the way they feel. Nonetheless thank you for an informative video.

The clip starts with the chair asking Ashwin his opinion of the game. He responds by sarcastically trying passing the question to Naas who tries, humorously, to fend it off by saying he used up all the time before the game (Naas acknowledging by inference that he may have hogged the mike either on or off air ...) Nick then tries to shut the impending incident down by taking the ball away from both of them and provides - as usual - an articulate summary. Ashwin waits calmly - too calmly - for Nick to finish and then deliberately 'throws his toys on air. During his toy-launching fest, he infers that Nick and Naas are racist, they played their rugby during apartheid, that they called him a quota, that Nick was laughing at him but, most telling of all, that he is glad that this happened on air. The incident itself did not happen on air. His deliberate and racist response to whatever did happen was on air. He put it there. He should be fired for this abuse of his position as a presenter to hijack the LIVE platform for his own racist agenda. Should Nick and Naas be punished in any way, they should resign an d start their own channel or company. I would certainly support it just as I support the 1014 channel. I watch Nick and Naas because they are Nick and Naas, not because they are MNet.

Quota system is crap the best team should play. Quota system should stop the best team should play. We are already seeing rugby having a huge financial loss.

This our keemstar keep the good work up

I’m impressed...a balanced view on the incident. Such an approach will bring us closer to true reconciliation!

Well, you dont have to say anything to be racist. Your action and attitude when you intract with other individuals might slightly highlight your true beliefs. And yes this applies to all races, (grey, purple....)

What actually happened; Presenter asks Ashwin for input- as usual Ashwin doesn't really have much to add apart from stating the obvious..he was lost for words ( something that Naas and Mallet don't experience ) mumbling and not being prepared- he then asks Naas for his opinion, hoping he takes the bait and Naas couldn't help himself..instead of Ashwin not taking himself so seriously.. he feels like a tit and pulls the race card, but in the back of his mind knowing fully well he's not a real analyst. It was a coward move! BUT he'll be praised for calling out a bunch of old white guys from the Springbok apartheid era. It is a case of feeling inferior when you're out of your depth. Ashwin made a mistake ;))) Ash for the new EFF leader.

All of this for a game where you throw a ball around. No wonder we are headed nowhere as a country.

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Fact is their are Snowflakes everywhere.Sensitivity trumps all .Just a bunch of babies everywhere .AW is jealous and sulks like a 2 year old on tv .Kids do this .

😂😂😂. And then people still think I've lost my mind by immigrating to Nigeria. O my soul, I'm still trying to decide if this is funny or pathetic.

What ended up coming out ?

There is a longer version of the clip aswell which makes his outburst even weirder.

Let's not forget that Ashwin told us that South Africa can become the best rugby team in Africa. His commentary in general is laughable. No wonder the panel thinks he is a joke.

2018 - Black Privilege

Warren here and very well said , I am dumbfounded that the minister made those comments. The damage that can do for Rugby as a sport it's not just South African ppl watching , we have ppl worldwide watching . What Willemse did was very unprofessional and this matter could of been handed in a lot more professional way once the facts and all the facts laid out on the table . Then a coarse of action can be taken . For the ppl jumping to conclusions YOU ARE THE FOOLS AND IN DOING SO YOU FUELING A VERY DANGEROUS FIRE ....... GREAT CLIP AND A AWESOME OUTLOOK U HAVE THANKS WAZZA

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I agree with everything you're saying but i think something that needs to be taken into consideration is that someone doesn't have to state something explicitly racist in order for it to have racial undertones. On many occasions people of colour are undermined or patronised or not held at high regard. We as observers can't undermine his experience just because... well we personally didn't experience it. That being said no one should be jumping the gun without understanding the context first.

Rascism....rascism everywhere

Where did you buy that Freddie Mercury poster on the wall?

What do you call it

Ek weti meer nie..

Where is Ashwin today, where is Nick & Naas today? Time revealed the truth.

A good non biased way to look at it and try to iron things out. Come on SA. One love

Let us all reserve judgement until we have all the facts! That is all I have to say.

The tree of multiculturalism is bearing fruits I see. . . Why do liberals believe that vastly different cultures and belief systems can live together in harmony? Where is multiculturalism working effectively where there are no severe problems? There are parts of Sweden - the most multicultural country in Europe - where you have the military and police patrolling the streets with automatic weapons to uphold the peace. There are frequently cases in the US where black Americans take to the streets and vandalise property and loot shops. Even on the African continent different tribes of people who look identical detest each other - ethnic cleansing is a word thrown around on way too many occasions. Multiculturalism is such a fallacy.

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Can't wait for Super Rugby on Monday evening.