and the thing that is better about older games? they existed during a time in which pandering to multiple audiences wasn't expected, and games were made purely on how the devs wanted them to be. that is why games like ALTTP, Super Metroid and Mega Man 2 are immortal.
I never even finished MC back in Vanilla because I was such a pleb that it took me about three weeks to finish Stranglethorn, seeing as I kept getting ganked and was pretty the category of player to target stuff with their mouse. But I'm still excited for Classic WoW!
Everytime I play Morrowind, I go back to being that 8 year old boy who played on his step-dad's laptop exploring the truly mystical island of Vvardenfell, and it just feels good no matter what anyone says, despite all the flaws the game has. To me it hold ups, for a personal reasons and nobody can tell me different.
Imo nostalgia depends on whenever you started playing the game and had a really fucking good time! Mine personally was MoP because thats whenever i really got into WoW
Literally exactly the same as me I started playing mop when it just came out and I was about 6 years of age or something well im 15 now and I miss playing mop and I miss watching my brother play it because we would take turns on some old shitty PC that somehow could run wow
It is so funny to look back on these videos... Classic was and is still so much bigger than Retail. Sure they ruined Classic with Retail elements, but those who liked older versions of WoW were always right.
old games were created really well to make sure people like it and in return made a lot of money. new games are created by algorithms filled with microtransactions for maximum profit
@@martinivanov1319 true. look at all the superhero movies lately... its a one-time watch for sure. the audience has changed. new gen of kids want different things. i guess every generation had this problem
Makes sense and said very well, for the newer generation it’ll be fortnite or pandemic Warzone or whatever and it’s fine, because they had memories comparable to what others had from vanilla WoW
I had great nostalgia for Vanilla WoW.. I couldnt wait for Classic any longer, so I started on a private-server 3-days ago. I am absolutely fucking hooked. Almost 30-hours in, and everything so far feels exactly how I hoped it would.
3years later and I’ll put 100$ that none of these 3 replies still touch classic wow lmao, shit was cool for a month now we’re back to chasing the next high. Like this shit is sad people, look ahead instead of living in the past
You know Blizzard is just waaaaiting for Classic numbers to drop to say "see we told you so" even if its 3 years later and numbers drop.. SEE WE TOLD YOU SO! lol
@@hallo-mt5tx What? That's not how they work?? lol no shit.. They are making classic cause fans asked for it, but that doesn't mean it's going to stop them from saying I told you so....
I don´t think ist about the game itself but more the feeling you had playing it. When you buy a game today you dont buy 100%. DLC and mikrotransactions are the curse of modern gaming.
Some games are affected by nostalgia .. and then there's games like super mario bros 3 ... my nephew got the switch online thing and everyone from his class loves it .. there's 25 years between me and them.
Theres a difference between playing an old game and just trying to recapture your younger self. Thats what I feel most people who want to play Classic are, chasing their youth which has long passed. I played Classic back in 2004, it was something new and fresh but even if I go back to play it, its not going to return me to that time anymore. People will quickly realize that Classic wasn’t all that great very quickly...
@@ElvenMans private servers are: -free -boosted -sometimes modded While I agree there is a group of people who play in private servers because of nostalgia, to think that the majority do for that reason alone is just stupid, sorry.
@@johnathanera5863 Yae they are, and still are. Servers at max capacity is not popular enough? There weren't many doing private server stuff, but those who did were very popular. Ofc i'm talking about only Classic/Vanilla here. But the other expansions are popular too.
Bad thing about so many games being online even far too many singleplayer games - in 20 years when the servers are shutdown we can’t jump on and play them for a bit of nastalgia
It is amazing how a well-made game can stand the test of time... I mean Super Mario Bros (so simple yet satisfying).. Starcraft 1 is still a great game. Counterstrike, WC3, Diablo II, all older than WoW and still really fun! It isn't just nostalgia; they are actually just very well-designed! I've been playing on a new private TBC server and it's the most fun I've had in WoW in a long time! Classic will be great and not just for nostalgia. : )
Netherwing Atlantiss. hand-down the best private server I've played on (1x and absolutely no p2w) and started this year in 2019. There's even a queue to log on during peak time! I am Kog on horde side . GLHF :)@@M4XIUM
I've always hated the argument that these games wouldn't hold up to modern standards, the reason a lot of these games aforementioned are still fun to play is because they still hold up. I'm shocked this opinion is coming from a WoW vet, considering the amount of times over the years people in trade chat would defend WoW, "it's not the graphics that matter, its gameplay and mechanics." Stiull true to this day, one example ~ indie games sell well in todays online modern retailers.
For me, nostalgia was lost in WoW after I already discovered a new zone. Been to each on 100 times now and that feeling of how big the world was will never come back.
I started at the very end of TBC/beginning of Wrath and never played Vanilla. The rose-tinted goggles/nostalgia argument doesn't hold up because I don't have nostalgia for the Classic WoW era. I started playing classic private servers in WoD and I love the game because it's fucking amazing and immersive. Is it perfect? No, but it's still one of the greatest games of all time, if not the greatest IMO.
There was freedom of expression and nobody believed in hate speech. No milking cow games existed nor lootboxes in any form. Just pure passion and ambition to create art for others to enjoy. Have a good day.
Good games, but still forgot that you need the memory card not only just a transaction for something you need, it also allowed you to bring your memory card to other's houses back when there was no internet for cheats or characters to play with vs your friends. Memory card had good use besides losing it and all your memory lol.
the notion that new and better are always synonymous in the eyes of some is just insanity I wonder if there are people who genuinely believe that the newest sonic games are the best the series has ever seen
As we get older we generally dislike "new" more and more, because we prefer familiarity and we pick up new things slower. It's not about better or worse, its about preferring what you're familiar with and for most wow players classic is that familiarity. There is no argument that you can present that quantifiably proves classic was better than the current game, yet you and I both want to play classic more than the current game. Its not a better game, its just a different game.
@@CardinalHijack that isn't necessarily true, I was born in 1990 and my favorite classic mega man is 11, and my favorite pokemon generation in terms of competitive battling is 6(x/y/oras). mine is one of looking at things objectively, though of course I understand everyone will have preferences. there are still people who think the original pokemon red and blue are the best in the series when that, objectively speaking, is not true in the slightest as Fire Red and Leaf Green exist which are the same games as red and blue but they have more.
Dizzy the egg Atari Kirby dreamland game boy Metal gear solid Silent hill Resident evil 2 all for the ps1 My best gaming memories apart from the 14 years I’ve dragged myself through Wow
Once the market management started deciding what makes the final cut , the game starts dying. If we were to compare it to art , if there were 2 people , one drawing and the other selling the picture , they both have a meaningful position. Once the seller notices a surten pattern to what the majority dislikes about the picture and tells the artis to cut down on some lines here and some corners there , the picture will not only lose character but also originality. Its happening to modern art aswell . Anything profitable which has been around for more than its infant state is being plagued by the market placment.
super mario world is one of the best game ever made, it's still as good as it was when I played it as child, I still play through it from time to time.
I used to love a game so much when i was 13, it's called APB. Now, you'll hear the whole bs about it and i know, and it's true, i wont deny it. But why I miss it so much ? Is it only nostalgia ? well , you just answered that for me. APB was so shitty it was some next level difficulty to kill another player. You could buy your way into killing people yes, but eventually you will find yourself losing against a STAR 555 just because the one with the f2p gun was expecting your gun to be better, so he trained to be a better player. When i first started, i hated the game and everyone so much, and while being angry i realized how far had i became. I was an angry 14 yo screaming the hell out of my lungs but i reached Gold rank. And i was playing against GOLD players with p2w guns. And i won. Most of the times. And i realized that it was possible to beat the p2w system of the game. And if i suck i suck. I lose. But there's a chance to win against all odds. and that's what i miss so much about it.
Nostalgias mostly just makes it easier for someone to enjoy something older. It's all preference but ive gone back and played old games from the 90s that have no nostalgia value to me and still find them better than almost anything coming out today. Sure they lack quality of life. Maybe the gameplay isnt as smooth. You just need to have an open mindset going in. Classic WoW is objectively a better game than current because it's actually an MMORPG and current WoW is basically a mindless looter shooter hardly different than Destiny. Most modern gamers will probably hate it because they want the modern conveniences.
I never got to play Classic WoW in the day, but I now play it on a private server. I like it more than the main game. The graphics are terrible compared to modern WoW, but the game itself is difficult, and when I level up or get loot it feels rewarding.
I'm not a nostalgic person just because i think that most new games are crap and easy. I mean, most of the new game holds your hand to the finish line and they all play the same way; no originality. A nostalgic person is a guy who buys classic controllers for the nintendo switch. I personally use gamecube controller while playing smash not because i'm feeling nostalgic, but because the GC controller is the best one for smash.
I love NES Metroid and played it for hours when it first came out. I play it now, but not for hours. Nostalgia is great but for me there's no longevity. I'll dink around in classic because I miss old school Scholomance, but I won't play it exclusively
@@tuslayer5071 That's basically it, vanilla wow is good memories, not nostalgia. But I do agree that it could be unhealthy because living in the past is not always great.
I’m fucking young, like, too young to know what a game cube is. But, I still play Diablo and aoe2, Mario 64, paper Mario, some of resident evil. I hate fortnite, I played aoe2 and Diablo when we had no wifi back in 2014 and I loved those games. Nostalgia should definitely be on the “grading list”.
its not just nostalgia it was actualy beter. trust me i play enough vanilla,tbc,wotlk private servers to know. allso vanilla wow still has beter graphics then 90% of 2018-2019 MMORPGS
Back when Devs make games so players should learn...nowadays it's the players bitching and whining about the difficulty of the game instead of taking time to learn -> forcing devs to make a "easy" mode for them...
Thats why we need classic wow because of how wow is its just garbage older expansions made this game perfect because their wasnt anything boring about it gear was harder to get and not handed to you
@@devin7683 I agree with what your saying, but I dont wanna go back to vanilla either. Most people have forgotten some of the shit we had to do before. I remember hours upon hours wasted grouping up at a stone for summons while someone in trade tried to get more players for a dungeon. A single dungeon! I could go on and on about more but you get my point. After a decade of playing I think im 100% done with warcraft as much as it saddens me. its just a waste of money. Blizzard isnt putting any heart anymore its all numbers and figures now. :/
@@cmendr011 but thats what makes the game really good i joined back in wotlk before they added lfg and honestly i love how long the dungeons, questing and finding groups were because thats how you make real friends and experiences, right now you cant make friends because dungeons are too fast to bring down, no one quest until 110 but you can solo everything and all you do is sit in org all day for lfg at low level, yes back then was hard to farm but those are the best experiences to meet new friends.
Devin W I get what your saying and fundamentally I agree with ya. My own experience is, that after nearly ten years, multiple guilds, arena teams, and fair weather friends I’m still solo. I’ve been playing solo since wrath ended. Not that there was any comradery back then anyway. Everything was cloak and dagger, not pulling your weight, fuck ya. Didn’t show up to raid cuz your family member had surgery fuck ya. Don’t comply to the social justice rules fuck ya. There really is nothing to go back to. It all all an illusion to take your hard won money.
They both missed the point. Nostalgia shouldn't be used as a reason why anyone else should like a game, primarily because it's tied to personal experience. People have nostalgia for the star wars prequels because they watched them as a kid and have fond memories from it, and they might even still like the movies today for that reason, but that's not an argument why anyone else should like those movies. Something can be objectively shit and yet be liked because of nostalgic reasons. Classic WoW is a little different. There's tons of reasons why it's a great game, but nostalgia shouldn't be used as one of those reasons.
Nostalgia is a stupid argument, I’ve gone and played private servers, I still enjoy the game and got to 60 and raided on 2 different servers. I wouldn’t put that much time and effort into something that I only liked for nostalgic reasons, and anyone can go play classic wow right now and see if they like it it’s not hard
"Only cause of Nostalgia" is used by the naysayers a lot, if you notice. It's a nice example of what he talks about at the end of this video. Some people can't handle when others like something, they try to ruin it for them.
Nostalgia argument is BS and people can test it really easy - just play an old game you haven't played from older times. The only thing I understand being off-putting are the graphics, old 2D games are probably easier to get into today. There's also something different I observed with myself. I am a fan of NFS games and at the release I thought NFS:Undercover is shit. Fast forward to today, I think that NFS:Undercover is ok game - it's probably due to lack of satisfaction with modern titles that were even worse that caused the shift of my previous opinion.
the thing is with nostalgia the only games that u find nostalgic are the goods ones, i dont remember the shitty ones, an example today is w3, heroes 3, etc still revelant today and fun to play if u take the time to reinstall them
As a guy who never played Vanilla Wow back in the day I can say that current WoW was fucking boring as shit, I tried playing a Vanilla WoW private server, and gahdayumn it feels good the sense of achievement its insane. its not about the nostalgia if a low life casual like me actually liked vanilla more than bfa
People like asmon are the problem, just denying anything that he doesn't like, yet acts like he's above everyone else. He really missed the point of this video.
Older games were just better, it's not nostalgia. I've gone and played so many games I didn't play as a kid and I acknowledge that they're better than 90% of shit today.
I want to see and play classic WoW but completely overhauled with a modern game engine that takes advantage of today's hardware. The renditions using the unreal 4 engine looked amazing. I was a huge fan of vanilla, tbc, and wotlk and I miss it.
If classic wow came out today it would be compared to tge other mmos today which means classic wow would be a joke compared to swtor or dc universe online or guild wars 2
LOL His reasoning about Nostalgia and old games (MadSeasonShow's) is so stupid. Good games are not good cause of nostalgia, and you can feel nostalgic about bad games too i guess, so it proves that again. You feel nostalgic if you played them back then, or makes you feel a certain way, but thats it. And kids today are not playing those cause they might not even heard of them, there are a shitton of new games to play, which they might enjoy more, or are simply more accessible. Some kids like those cool old games too, if they get a chance to play them...
Asmon!!!! My man pleas to a video reacting the legacy videos of preach gaming!!! You missed a couple of them. Ps: can we keep donating to your channel by twich or not yet? Greetings bro
well some of this is bullshit, i started playing wow during MoP and i really liked it (yes i like MoP). But now i only play WotLK private servers because i have more fun that way, so no, old games are not only good cause ofm nostalgia
no nostalgia I started playing in cata as a little kid got bored but returned for legion because i got free game from the warcraft movie and legion was on a huge discount got bored after a month and returned to playing on a vanilla private server and it was 10 times better 14 and 16 me preferred vanilla way more than cata and current wow
Ok I hate to be that guy but ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7RNK0YBdwko.html here is a great example of what will happen to classic WoW. but there won't be saving it after the drop and i will tell you why. because Activision has already shown they don't concern this a massive project of 2019 meaning when the player count drops, no money flowing in anymore. they will do what they did to hots and just leave it to die if you watched the runescape video you will see that F2P, bonds and new updates saved osrs. Activision is a much larger greedy company so no matter how much they make from launch it will not impact them enough since call of duty black ops 4 made them 500 million at launch and didn't please investors and as much as your hyped for classic WoW, the reality is there is not as many people as you think that will be purchasing it. id say classic wow makes at most 2 to 3 million so it will fail in the end in Activision eyes. I personally will not support Activision in this project but enjoy classic WoW. and people who say TBC and WOTLK is next are delusional because Activison will not put more resources in something they deemed failed.
People overrating graphics are the reason why Witcher 3, divinity original sin 2 , GTA 4 etc will be shit games because new graphics are coming up every year. In reality graphics are way below art design , gameplay, story,dialogues and music. Those are the things that makes a game that hold its own in the test of time. Nostalgia isnt the only reason to come back to those games.
wow classic will fail because unlike smash wow vanilla is a long probably the longest progression system ever asking people to do month long grinds to lvl 60 is not going to happen people have kids, jobs, life has moved on though we wish it hadn't
No lmao tf are you dumb or high? Thats why it wont fail because you have months to years to progress, current wow YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO pay attention kid
Come back two years after classic, e m p t y s e r v e r s . At least OSRS has new updates going for it. As for Classic well there’s the initial fun and joy but afterwards what else will you do apart from community events which won’t bring something new? It will become stale. Though till then feel free to ridicule me :). Edit: Also the community thanks to being split even further will be even more toxic Pepelaugh
I feel sorry for you for not knowing ff7 back in the day... or now! Makes me wonder why you play Sekiro... ... a wide stretch for most... but. Makes me wonder... ... ... ... ayayaya
Wow was great because you had to interact with people to learn and conquer new content. That is the main reason. The mechanics and systems in vanilla were shit
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