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Asta vs Meliodas (In Every Arc) 

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This is my honest opinion on this topic I did my best to scale them properly with all the info i had currently so I used multipliers lore feats statements, to scale them and of course i don't know everything about these 2 characters so do tell me things I missed or had wrong due to x factor I didn't know about.
I use multipliers because that’s what they are made for so don’t get salty lol also calc stacking and multiplier stacking are 2 different things me saying 10x10 multiplier means he or she got 100x faster and stronger is the same as slapping to calc together

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@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
This was an editing hell... Y'all are welcome 😮... Please Enjoy... tell me what you think about the editing... Like and Subscribe too... 😮
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
Do better I want to see u sweat blood 🩸 that how good I want the next video to be 💀 remember I’m in my Owner of mappa mode rn
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 This guy... The Monkey King will bring you down
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
@@Lawlessweeb_San Buddha wukong quivers in fear when he heard the name Buddha igneel
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 sureee
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
@@Lawlessweeb_San every time they say Buddha Ig…. Every realm shakes in fear just by someone attempting to say my name 😌
@Nahneezy
@Nahneezy 3 дня назад
If prime meliodas slams he can’t get past the Ten Commandments. If current then it’s hard cuz meliodas got the power to oneshot him but asta so much faster than him
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
Agreed cause the barely any feats for him
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
@@Nahneezy Asta faster than who???
@Dkvle
@Dkvle 2 дня назад
Pretty sure Meliodas is vastly superior to Escanor in speed who was able to move casually in a space where instant teleportation couldn’t escape from.
@Nahneezy
@Nahneezy День назад
@@Dkvle teleportation isn’t speed without calc stacking asta is ftl+ pre timeskip. Inaccessible speed isn’t a speed tier system anymore and the teleportation isn’t passive it’s active
@yodogarou36
@yodogarou36 25 минут назад
@@Nahneezyno one cares about VSBw standards inaccessible speed is a speed tier
@landenchristian19
@landenchristian19 День назад
Finally someone who knows how to scale
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
Thank u
@landenchristian19
@landenchristian19 23 часа назад
No thank you for making this I love both series but I knew that it went to meliodas with it barely being a fight and your the first person to scale seven deadly sins properly
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 23 часа назад
@@landenchristian19 I’m glad to hear, hop u have subscribed cause the chaos vs yhwach from bleach is coming soon it will be uploaded this Friday or Saturday and I discovered near argument and feats for chaos
@cjcj4861
@cjcj4861 11 часов назад
​@@igneellinde4123Black Clover is not beating seven deadly sins protagonist no not a chance get to the damn point
@cjcj4861
@cjcj4861 11 часов назад
​@@igneellinde4123shut up
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
39:14 Ik I said true magic Meliodas is near chaos lvl that’s my bad lol I Made this script before my king meliodas vs true magic Meliodas video 😅
@goofy25x
@goofy25x День назад
Yeah, MASSIVE lowball for Asta throughout every arc but that's expected tbh since this is a 7ds channel. But since this just your interpretation of both of their scaling ill let it slide. Also didn't go in-depth with Asta's abilities but again, 7ds channel.
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
How is it a low ball where would u scale asta. I’m listening what we see asta have, or is there some secret ability that I didn’t know
@zeptoblade
@zeptoblade 2 дня назад
W viddd love to see it
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
Thank u. I’m glad u still alive lol
@Joey-Jdi
@Joey-Jdi День назад
i dont think yall understand how broken manga asta is bruh
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
What does he have that would work on meliodas
@Rakso-hz8hc
@Rakso-hz8hc 3 дня назад
Great video pls more seven deadly sins content
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
Thank u I’m glad u enjoyed it
@minyemwilfrid9413
@minyemwilfrid9413 2 дня назад
I think you got the devil percentages thing wrong. We use it in the context of each percentage of devil power being greater than their base form without devil power and how it it dramatically upscales the verse. For example base Dante can clown of black form asta who should atleast be slightly stronger than the one that was relative to sacred and the first wizard king. When accounting for noelle statement we know Dante going 50% on berserk asta was either because of the huge amp that was berserk mode on black asta or just an overkill from Dante. Another example is base vanica oneshoting a 50% dark disciple in base. Those disciples should be stronger than the 40% dark disciples that spirit dive Yuno struggled against. The same yuno who should be relative if not stronger than the same yuno who competing with black asta and Zagred So basically the base triad are very powerful and each devil percentage they use are greater than than base form
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
That’s still not how it works tho u can’t say 50% of there devil power is 50x stronger than them. We have no quantification for how much is 1%. U didn’t provide anything that suggests that per 1% it’s a 1 or 2x increase I explained how percentages work U would also have to figure out how much is the gap in power if they had to fight 1% of there devils power because we see asta beat his devil but he can get multiple times stronger just in black asta form
@minyemwilfrid9413
@minyemwilfrid9413 День назад
@@igneellinde4123 Wouldnt noelle's statement be all the evidence needed. If i recall, she said something along the lines of a single percentage of devil power being an incredible increase in power. She made the statement when vanica went from 50 to 51percent. also yuno went from being a oneshot difference stronger than 80 percent zenon to being inferior to 100 percent. So a 20 percent increase in power compensated a oneshot diffrence in power? not that its not possible but i think its unlikely. I also think its consitent for the devil percentages to be that massive of an increase because the cliphot devil that boost the triad are all shown to be superior to the 100percent triad by a massive amount. spirit dive noelle can style on 100% Vanica the same noelle is inferior to an unserious megicula that is at 1/3 of her manifestation. as for the asta beating his devil thing its kinda implied that liebe is holding back during their fight. Also the ritual used substantially nerfs the devil in the arena plus we know the kings of the underworld are beyond a shadow of a doubt more powerful than the 100% triad by a laughable extent.
@minyemwilfrid9413
@minyemwilfrid9413 День назад
@@igneellinde4123 im not really familiar with seven deadly sin scaling like that so i would just trust you on that part and not really dispute it. i think the universal blackclover scaling is more consistent than youd think. I dont personally use it but i think u dismissed it too quickly. glamour world isnt the only root of the argument tho i think its a solid one. i dont really agree with the arguments against dorothy creating glamour world and i believe the interaction between luck magna and the elf in glamour world supports it being infinite in size or atleast multi solar system through multi galactic because of the sheer amount of stars in the background. even if you think glamour world is hax, yami cancut it with dimension slash and yami has an attack that is both stronger and faster than dimension slash in death thrust. i still think its a highball for black clover but i think it isnt as inconsistent as people think
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
@@minyemwilfrid9413 I debunked it in the video lol. Yuno needed a lot of help to 1 shot zenon and had to charge up a attack to do so also 1 shots in black clover are never consistent and are not given the requirements. 75% megicula is 100x stronger than a dark triad but we don’t know how much power she gave vanica from my knowledge megicula gave her 1% of her power and vanica thought that it was 100% same thing for Dante lol like Dante at 100% isn’t equal to 100% lucifero or even 50% lucifero. Not trying to kill asta does mean he is suppress his power I can try not to kill someone but I can still 1 shot them or beat them up. I don’t think that nerf applies to liebe who has anti magic and not magic. Ik that in fact if u watched the video I mentioned that
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
@@minyemwilfrid9413 I didn’t just attack the glamour world argument but the other arguments. Death thrust was never shown nor stated to be superior to dimension slash equinox.
@black_otaku_lifebloodstrike
@black_otaku_lifebloodstrike 2 дня назад
Purgatory( created by Mother Chaos) which is a realm is stated to be a space time. It also has an infinite size statement: This would mean that realms in seven deadly sins are space times and are infinite. The mortal realm( the main universe) contains an infinite lake of magic and energy. Demon King Meliodas was going to destroy it with his sheer presence. This is an ultra casual High Uni to Uni + feat. The demon king and the supreme deity created a parallel dimension of the mortal realm which is again an infinite space time. So they would be at least Uni +. Meliodas scales to both of them. He even erased the demon king from existence. Chaos created the main universe, purgatory, the fairy universe, the demon king, the supreme deity, and can create different timelines. Meliodas can damage Chaos king author, and threatens him. Also the supreme deity and demon king’s combined power beat Chaos. So Meliodas somewhat scales to it. 5. It’s confirmed by sariel and tarmiel that to escape their dimension that they created you would need a power level relative to theirs to destroy it. This means that in seven deadly sins creation scales to destruction/ap. Now in terms of speed faster than light to infinite speed Every single member of the goddess race can use light attacks or light particles. Gowther uses light arrows and King’s sunflower attacks are beams of light. Ludociel is flat out stated to be faster than light. King speed blitzed Mael and (his arrows of salvation which are light) and Meliodas scales to him. Diane speed blitzed Gowther’s light attacks. Now for infinite ATTACK speed Chaos, the demon king, and the supreme deity created infinite sized universes. So their attack speeds are infinite, and Meliodas can destroy universes so he also has attack speed. He can react to their attack speed.
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 2 дня назад
YOOO. BROTHERLY... YOU COOKED. GAWD DAMN
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
The mother of chaos never created purgatory we don’t know who created it. Ik about the infinite statements I’m saving’s that for my next video. The mortal plane stuff ik about I mentioned it in the video It wasn’t stated to be parallel dimensions. Which doesn’t mean are infinite but there are other ways to argue there dimensions are infinite. Chaos didn’t create purgatory nor the fairy realm nor the universe although Arthur recreated it but prior there was no confirmation on who did it and the fairy tree created the fairy realm. Most of what u said I know about but attack speed and dc/ creation are 2 different things but there are better methods to get there attack speed that high
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 2 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 the mother of chaos is just another name those wise men called chaos
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
@@Lawlessweeb_San no hawk mama is the mother of chaos
@black_otaku_lifebloodstrike
@black_otaku_lifebloodstrike 2 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 bro go check again
@Ligmapigga
@Ligmapigga День назад
there are technically humans in the ocean so demon licht would need to do a higher than multi continental feat to kill them
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
No they are in the see that’s why it’s called the sea temple. He would kill them if he is surface wiping
@Ligmapigga
@Ligmapigga 22 часа назад
@@igneellinde4123 i see but also u could count the salamader feat as maybe continental because burning 1000 ri is continental sized but thats a little iffy
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 22 часа назад
@@Ligmapigga even with that argument it still gets him to multi continental
@Ligmapigga
@Ligmapigga 22 часа назад
@@igneellinde4123 an outlier feat I want u to check out is yami spiltting dorothy's dream dimension and surpassing it with a physical move would that make him and everyone above him solar sytem - uni?
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 22 часа назад
@@Ligmapigga no cause it’s via hax he destroyed dream spell via hax unless u can prove his ap scale to it and that the filler is canon then sure
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 3 дня назад
Went back over chapter 3 for SDS to verify the Lightning feat. Maybe there’s something to be said about every character in that chapter simply having super human speed/being able to talk fast, but given how much occurs in the time it takes for Gil’s spear to reach Meliodas (Mel senses the attack being launched, Elizabeth fumbles being a waitress, her going outside, Mel following her, then having a conversation that last several pages), I think that puts a damper on this attack being as fast as natural lightning. Then again it did have to arc through the air, maybe it covered a greater distance than the linear 7 miles between them, but I still think this is a weak point in the speed scaling.
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
There is no time frame given in ch 3 so we can only measure speed with distance and the confirmed speed. How is it weak lol it’s a blatant feat
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
@michaeldorsey9231 remember when Meliodas beat the shit out of Galand and had a discussion withe the commandments under 10 seconds... Yea. Time in anime doesn't work like in real life. No two person have full blown conversations in 10 seconds and fight in the same 10 seconds
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
@@Lawlessweeb_San actually Meliodas and Zeldris have a conversation in 1 second with approximately 69-100 words in it
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 3 дня назад
“ There is no time frame given in ch 3” Somewhat agree, any timeframe estimated would still ultimately be a guess, especially in manga format. Still, given how much occurs on panel I think it’s fair to argue that the timeframe would be longer than the 0.02-0.03 seconds that it would take natural lightning to cover that distance, unless we want to argue that not just Mel and Elizabeth but also the bar patrons are simply moving/talking at superhuman speeds constantly. “so we can only measure speed with distance and the confirmed speed” At least in ch3 I didn’t see any direct reference to that attack at least being as fast/faster than lightning. Maybe other chapters have more explicit mentions for Gil’s speed, but even then this throw may not have to be as fast as his other attacks, especially since he was doing so to test whether or not Mel had returned.
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
@@michaeldorsey9231 i disagree lol because in fiction specifically 7ds in this context they can move faster than normal humans we also know the time frame using time = distance % speed to find the time frame which would actually be 0.021 seconds which is a feat if they can do multiple things in that time frame. Yes I would say that due to the feat given lol I see no issue. That’s just baseless speculation lol because we see gilthonder being able to create thunder clouds and his lighting is just lighting speed we have no reason to assume it isn’t lighting speed or faster bare minimum. It only gets faster with him amping his weapon with magic
@Abyss_8228
@Abyss_8228 3 дня назад
My only discrepancy (20 mins in), is with Hendrickson vs Dreyfus, which I personally think Dreyfus is considerably stronger. But the entire situation with Dreyfus in that arc is suppressed Fraudrin who’s consistently like pretty weak, so it’s all good.
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
Ye but based on the narrative too Hendrickson was the superior
@Abyss_8228
@Abyss_8228 3 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 I mean Dreyfus upon getting purged of Fraudrin just has way better feats, and Dreyfus just consistently is superior to Hendrickson combat wise in the flashbacks and considering the progression of the story later on. Hendrickson > this weakened Fraudrin though is perfectly fine, that version of Fraudrin was getting jumped by fodders 😭
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
@@Abyss_8228 lmao
@Fire_Eagle-zy9lz
@Fire_Eagle-zy9lz 2 дня назад
Can you pls make a video who would win Meliodas or Naruto because I still see people on TikTok who says Naruto ez beats meliodas
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
Yes I will, don’t think I will forget it took me a month to do the chandler vs Irene video
@Fire_Eagle-zy9lz
@Fire_Eagle-zy9lz 2 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123thanks it’s alright I will wait
@cjcj4861
@cjcj4861 11 часов назад
​@@Fire_Eagle-zy9lzshut the hell up
@cjcj4861
@cjcj4861 11 часов назад
​@@igneellinde4123enough of the calculation mathematical bulshit just get to the point of fucking ready I'm standing in the top of my lungs God damn it you idiots know he's solos Black Clover seven deadly sins win that fight point blank period
@cjcj4861
@cjcj4861 11 часов назад
​​@@igneellinde4123how would you even think that mountain of them that is BS he one shot Bon so what meliodas he's beating asta get to the point
@Abyss_8228
@Abyss_8228 3 дня назад
Baby Meliodas vs Baby Asta when
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
Lmao baby meliodas was strong enough to be a holy knight so meliodas wins
@Lawlessweeb_San
@Lawlessweeb_San 3 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 oh yea. That's true. His power level as a baby during Merlin's experiment was equal to a holy knight. Crazy shi
@Abyss_8228
@Abyss_8228 3 дня назад
@@igneellinde4123 Baby Meliodas beating first arc Asta 🗣🗣🗣
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 3 дня назад
@@Abyss_8228 lmao probably
@jeffreybamfo
@jeffreybamfo 2 дня назад
theseyoutubers need to get there numbers right if pasta was 5000000 times ftl he wouldn't be needing to fly on a sword to get to spade kingdom and what would even be the point of them using finral to get around places?
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 2 дня назад
I see so u a smooth brain lol learn the difference between combat speed and travel speed before typing 🤦🏾‍♂️
@NochtanaiMauder
@NochtanaiMauder 3 дня назад
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@orkzin
@orkzin День назад
Why not just use kilometres to calculate speed
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
Do not know that miles or kilometres in light speed is massive lol the numbers would literally be 100x the amount
@orkzin
@orkzin День назад
@@igneellinde4123 it's easier because in daily life we use kilometres and miles not Mach this and that
@Joey-Jdi
@Joey-Jdi День назад
bro really gave the size of a cloud, mountain + level ap :\
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 День назад
Ye creating a cloud that big that think in that short amount of time is a mountain lvl feat lol
@Joey-Jdi
@Joey-Jdi 19 часов назад
@@igneellinde4123so far from accurate 😂. Bros using spoken hypothetical feats to give cloud mtn+ is crazy. You do realize that the cloud he created isn’t even half the size of a regular bitch hurricane right? Of which the worst dmg a 1-3 is giving is city block level at best. You need to learn to properly scale feats and NOT SPOKEN FEATS. If someone says they can destroy the whole world but can’t destroy a simple building is not planetary. Wiping all humans and building is not planetary. There are no real feats that are planetary if they are not directly involved in creation or destruction of that said planet. Civilization isn’t planetary. All sentient beings isn’t planetary either. Same style as teleportation not being a speed feat.
@Joey-Jdi
@Joey-Jdi 19 часов назад
@@igneellinde4123gilthunder is only mountain + at peak power bruh. And that’s highball. He’s literally an average city block level AP character
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 19 часов назад
@@Joey-Jdi ummm no he is large mountain lvl as proven in my video lol and gilthonder gets stronger in s1 as I also proved in my video. Like bruh stop low balling gilthonder
@igneellinde4123
@igneellinde4123 18 часов назад
@@Joey-Jdi do u just not know how heavy clouds can be and how much energy it would take to create such a big thick thunder cloud 🤦🏾‍♂️ lol saying they can destroy the world doesn’t mean that they will destroy the world nor does it mean that there attacks have to be planetary lvl in dc every time lol go watch my video on the difference between ap and dc and learn some sh!t 💀 case all your arguments are just based on your ignorance and beliefs.
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