I don't understand why all astrologers focus on the negative sides of plutonian relationships. I'm in a plutonian relationship (my Pluto opposing his Venus) with many positive aspects. We've been together for 9 years and there's great unconditional love, understanding, support and solidarity. At first there were many quarrels but we were both willing to see our shadows and learn to love ourselves. A plutonian relationship can present many obstacles but it can definitely work,deep healing can come for both partners and love can prevail.
I was once in a Plutonic Relationship and I was definitely the Pluto person: Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Pluto with all 3 conjuncting each other. I desperately clung on to person I should have let go because she validated my existence. Years after being apart I found my own strength and peace. However I can admit my Plutonic relationship showed me the best and worst of who I could be.
I was in a plutonic relationship. It was very manipulative, unstable, addictive, sexual, and codependent. You’re correct that it forced a transformation through shadow work and healing inner child issues. I was the planet in one aspect and pluto in another aspect.
This really sheds a light for me. In past relationships I was both the Pluto person and the one on the receiving end of my partners unresolved Pluto issues. I am a Queer person who is very involved in the occult. Often I meet others through my activities that are still in the closet but want to be in secret relationships. I have my Natal Pluto in an exact conjunction with Black Moon Lilith at 27° Virgo in the 11th house. Both are trine my Sun and Saturn, which is combust in the last degrees of my 7th house in Taurus .Sex and power issues are usually at the forefront of what drives the relationship along with transformation via Black Magick. It hurts but it feels so good! I get addicted to that cycle and have to stop myself. To me it's edge play, but to some of the freaks I have dated in the past, it's for real a swipe at their ego. I have Venus in my 6th house in Aries at 22°. Kill or be killed. I hope that interpretation is wrong.
I have one sided plutonic obsession, we have lots of pluto aspect in synastry but mostly he is the pluto. Even it's all in my head, this obsession gave me priceless awareness about myself. And it still continue maybe there are more shocking things I should find out. I want to say to fellow friend: it's hard, it's feels ridiculously irrational, but i guess this is what it's like to be human
Love this video! I’m in a plutonic relationship now and we are both doing some deeeeeep inside work on ourselves and have opened up and communicated to each other in ways we haven’t with other people and have openly acknowledged that our relationship tension will get better as we work on ourselves individually... we have each been doing this and it’s amazing to finally be in a relationship that is literally transforming every aspect of my life and to see it doing the same for him and watch out relationship flourish. Due to my own natal chart, plutonic relationships are literally all I’ve known... this is the first time however that both me and my partner have had mutual Pluto contacts... And because we’re both very scorpionic, it just works. Me: Aqua Sun; Pluto in Scorpio conjunct my DC in the 7th; 8th house stellium containing Uranus, Saturn and Venus (Sag); Libra Moon; Pluto square Mercury (Aqua) and Pluto Inconjunct Mars Him: 2nd house stellium in Scorpio with Sun, Venus and Mars; Pluto in Libra conjunct AC in the 1st; Moon (Cancer) square Pluto and Jupiter (Pisces) inconjunct Pluto Us: His Scorpio Sun, Venus and Mars conjunct my Pluto in my 7th; My Libra moon conjunct his Pluto in his 1st. His Cancer Moon Trine my Pluto; His Pisces Jupiter Trine my Pluto; His Pluto Trine my Aqua Mercury; His Pluto opposite my Aries Mars; His Pluto square my Cap Neptune; His Pluto square my Cancer Lilith. My IC in Cancer and MC in Cap is opposite his IC in Cap and MC in Cancer (We have some really strong flowing aspects as well lol) Our Relationship: Sun in Sag -6th house sextile Pluto in Libra - 4th house; Moon in Leo -2nd house sextile Pluto; Neptune in Sag sextile Pluto aaaannnddd Cap Mars in 7th square Pluto in 4th... oh and Venus in Scorpio in the 5th Needless to say, our relationship is heavy and we’re both working on ourselves tremendously... luckily we have this same energy nataly and enjoy the tinge of drama and power of transformation so it’s working for us ❤️ *We also have the same dominant planets lol - Venus, Saturn and Pluto
Ive been in a few without knowing what was happening. Now I am older and am going into one with my eyes open and staying in my center. And I know the other person has done a lot of inner work as well. It feels like it could be a really positively powerful and passionate experience to be in this kind of relationship with your sense of power and strong connection to yourself intact.
Wow.. I had a short relationship with this foreign man but had a lot of signs and intuitions that he could be a soulmate and even that he could be "the one".. Our natal, synastry and composite all contain pluto aspects (natal moon opp pluto, natal pluto conj asc, natal pluto conj desc, natal venus trine pluto, synastry moon opp pluto and pluto opp mars, composite sun square pluto and mars trine pluto). But we also have lots of "unconditionnal love" aspects in synastry, and a great global composite chart. As I'm a scorpio rising with Pluto conj asc, I think I feel good in this kind of relationship, and would get bored easily if it wasn't plutonic enough 😄 🙏
Thank you for the very clear explanations! I only like to ad that sometimes (in astrology) aspects work the other way around - the Venus person (Venus oposits Pluto) can abuse the Pluto person as well and the Pluto person has to free herself. It depends on someones's personality and the other aspects in someones' chart. Sometimes the Pluto person is only abusing herself by staying in an unhealthy relationship.
I’m getting to know this guy and in our composite chart we have: -Scorpio Sun -Scorpio Rising -Pluto conj.Mars -Pluto conj. Venus -Mars conj. Venus -Mars conj. Pluto -North Node the 8th house And in Synastry: -Moon Square Pluto (his Pluto) -Moon trine Pluto -Pluto conjunct Ascendant (his Pluto again) I’m afraid this relationship might end up abusive, what do you think Tan? 🥺 He also has strong Plutonic aspects in his chart.
Hi Tan 👋🏻 thank you for the insight as always, Initially i don’t know if I am in a plutonic connection with this guy, but based on what you said I think I am because it feels hot and cold at the same time but I do know the feeling on my side I can’t get this person out of my mind and I feel terrified of him and magnetized at the same time there’s this unspoken bond that’s irresistible he doesn’t know that I am somewhat obsessed with him then again I have sun-Pluto exact orb in my natal hence the fixation is natural for me as hard it is to admit but I am channeling it constructively until this guy came around, Natally I am more Plutonian than him, he only have Neptune in aspect to Pluto might also be his moon but definitely wide orb, he is a sag stellium - his luck! His horse’shooves” might be running away from this connection as fast as he can, he had been ghosting me lately, wish he would have been more honest synastrically we have a lot of Pluto contacts including moon-Pluto mercury Pluto and my Venus Semisquare and semisextile (I know they are only minor but they are exact orb and double whammy) we also have Mars -Pluto (Sextile and Inconjunct) close orb also Neptune double whammy to Pluto and his Pluto loosely square my ascendant in Leo.. our composite is stellium in Scorpio including (Venus,Mercury,Pluto) with moon in Taurus opposite Pluto and Venus and Mercury conjunct Pluto.. on top of that all our personal planet is in aspect to each other’s Saturn creating a double whammy I feel suffocated when I’m around him at times ... I want to break it off but I can’t seem too so god help me 😌..again thank you and keep doing what you are doing thumbs up for this one 👍
lol the checklist. my natal chart: sun square pluto, moon trine pluto, venus square pluto his natal chart: pluto conjunct mc composite: moon opp pluto, mars square pluto. we also have pluto in the 7th synastry: moon trine pluto so far it's been one hell of a ride, but highly transformative (we also have a bunch of chiron connections incl. pluto square chiron 0deg 💀) and i overall trust him so far~ i think both of us are attempting to keep everything in check idk
We had the Pluto and moon in the same signs and they trine. My pluto is in the 1st house. He also has a grand trine Pluto, Moon, Venus. And our Pluto squares my mars. We never got into physical fights, but things would get intense super quickly. I think being at distance helped us in that aspect but we ended up breaking up. Those 3 years we dated where the most transformative years of my entire life, it really makes me appreciate him.
I have another connection with someone who has his Sun, Moon and Mars in my 8th house and we have Mars opposite Pluto in each other in synastry as well as Sun in opposite Pluto as well. He also has his Pluto’s conjunction my ascendant
I have the aspect. Even though I have sun and rising in sadge ♐️. My Venus 1st H Capricorn ♑️ squared to my Pluto Libra ♎️ and I also have 10H♎️MC and NN Scorpio ♏️ 10H Natally. I attract mostly scorpionic or plutonic admirers. My husband has scorpio ♏️ sun cancer moon 🌚. I’m a Nurse, this one surgeon at work, i noticed he’s kinda obsess to me to the point that he always timing my lunch time so he can sit and eat at the nursing lounge just to see me even though he’s shy to make conversations with me, we just say Hi, hello. It gets to the point that he will not do the surgery on time, just because my boss kinda noticed it so she won’t let me go to lunch the same time every time at work, which was good coz it almost caused a scandalous situations in OR department due to delay of surgeries and some nurses were noticing the situations. I’m also attracted to him but I don’t wanna cause troubles at work and ruin my reputations. So I avoided the situations. I just did our synastry, I just know his birth date but not the time and I notice that he has sun in libra ♎️ conjunct his Pluto and mercury and fall into my 10House Pluto and 10 H Midheaven libra ♎️. His Pluto conjunct with my Pluto and MC. He also has NN in Scorpio, he’s older than me 1 yr.
Our synastry: 💘 He has Pluto square moon in his natal chart I have Pluto sextile moon in my natal chart. My Pluto in the 3rd house, his Pluto in 2nd My Pluto square his moon: 1 degree orb 🤞🏼 My Pluto square his mercury: 3 degree orb 😭 My Pluto trine his sun: 6 degree orb 😊 His Pluto conjunct my mars: 3 degree orb 🤞🏼 His Pluto sextile my moon: 2 degree orb 🥰 His Pluto sextile my Neptune: 1 degree orb 🤲🏻 Pluto conjunct Pluto: 5 degree orb ☠️ Additional aspects Moon square mars: 1 degree orb👹 Moon trine Neptune: 5 degree orb🙌🏼 Venus conjunct sun: 5 degree orb 👉🏻👈🏻 North node conjunct sun (both ways): 1 degree orb 💋 His North node conjunct my mercury: 1 degree orb 👁👄👁 Composite chart: 💝 11th house stellium: sun, moon, Venus, mercury and north node. Pluto in second house. Moon in 12th house Pluto square sun: 5 degree 😪 Pluto square venus: 3 degrees 😫 Pluto square north node: 4 degrees 🥺 // Additional notes Venus conjunct the north node: 1 degree orb 🥳Venus trine Saturn and Neptune trine moon I’m not a plutonic person I only have Pluto on my mars and sextile my Ascendent and my moon but I don’t consider myself Plutonic I’m more of a moon cancer type since I have moon in the first house conjunct my Ascendent and a cancer midheaven I project my moon out a lot I’m highly emphatic, so what would this mean, would I be getting abused since I’m the Pluto person in the connection???
In my natal chart I have venus opposite pluto and I have the same aspect in synastry (I'm the venus), also mars trine pluto (I'm the pluto), pluto sextile moon (I'm the moon). Partner's mars is in my 8th house and pluto in my 12th. Relationship ended in ugly way. I think any good aspects in synastry has no weight agains plutonic aspects.
Hi Tan, I found this video because I just met a plutontic relationship and we can both feel that we don't know if we are ready for a relationship. Digging into his chart made me realize he has moon conjunct Pluto and I have moon opposite Pluto. Both of us are adult children living with our mothers. Both of us struggling with it. My Mom has Pluto mars conjunct in 8th house and is very manipulative. Does this mean our relationship is plutonic and I am being shown the mirror? Thanks for the video.
In our Synastry my mom and I have aspects where my plut squares her mars and hers squars my venus. She has pluto in the 12th house and in our composite Pluto is squaring both the moon and venus... no wonders why we were like we were... Ufff... its a lot to take in as a child...
Hm, I’m a Scorpio rising with Pluto in Scorpio, so I think I had like all of my relationships in some ways connected with pluto. So, for me they Can work just if both parts keep transforming at the same pace, astrologically speaking going from the south node to the north node as the same speed, house by house. I’m kinda having this relationship with my brother as he is a scorpio rising with pluto too. With my father too, but there i got to still see his chart btw. In any case I think stuff works if the parts really knows themselves and doesn’t lie à bit on themselves, and probably get to know how stuff exists over the ego alone. We live in a Leo society, if we Can call it like that, All Focus on the ego (sice Cartesio for sure, sice Plato for many), and too less on the collective, not to speak the species. I think that if we All Start to take the species as seriously as we take the ego, we’ll see that our shadow is not that Big of a deal, and that we have to act to make the species transform and getting better. But probably is that the very scary part: to see that we all, i the ego we’re tought to live for, are not that big thing, compared to how big are the problems of the evolution of the species and therefore how big could we become, as becoming a part of it. But we need overcome that fear, of our shadow, in astorology (?), of our Dasein, for Heidegger, our true being in the world. So not only our persona, but the full self-being, from whitch, for Heidegger, we ran in fear and distract ourselves with overworking (i did it myself a lot), or creating enemies, but in the end we just have the fear to see how insignificant we are, as mortals, compared to the being, and we fear this knowledge because we fear what comes with it: the urge to act, to make things true to ourselves that can most of time create separation in relationships or distances. But it we get that we all already are together, as a différent part of the same thing (life, God, the being), we should get that in the end we will get back to be All together, and so this fear of being lonely is not to be feared at All: is the way from which, for this philisopher, humans Can actually achieve true knowledge, and therefore making that knowledge into acts, shaping the world and making the being evolve again, in the greek’s idea of the being being in movement, ever changing, moving this stagnating and boring period of history. Because as Palsolini said: the developement is not progress, but, In think, nor of them are evolution, in the sense of transformation. And that transformation Can come right through watching our feras in the face, and probably that Can be seen in the 8th house, but I think mostly (for our full-public society) in the 4th house and in the south node. So, for those reasons I think Pluto is highly misvalued, as it is heavily needed in this society (I think), and it should’ve, and it should be, being used more in a positive way. As it Can, think, and I think I was unconsciously trying to prove that since i was kinda little if that can make sense (as i have my moon in capricorn)
what if the only aspects that me and my partner have are positive ones? (i have pluto sextile moon, conjunct mars, trine MC, he has pluto trine venus, sextile AC, conjunct MC) in composite chart we have pluto sextile mars but in synastry we don't have any of the aspects you talked about. is this still a plutonic relationship?❤❤
I only have Pluto sextile Venus. My ex has Pluto (11degree)conjunt Ascendant(11degree), Pluto square Sun(16 degree), Pluto opposite Moon(22 degree). There's a T-square with Sun on the top, Moon on one side, and Pluto&Ascendant on the other. For synastry chart, his Moon opposite my Pluto. For composite chart, Sun opposite Pluto and Moon trine Pluto. A lot of manipulation and verbal abuse to me. He was the one wanted to end the relationship because he was cheated on me with other women. I was very angry and began verbally abusing him and being violent by breaking things. He threatened to call 911. It was painful but after we left each other I have been feeling so much relieved and much happier being without him. Even today I asked myself why I felt so painful when he left and I don't have an answer. If I had known how great without him I would have been glad to let him go.
Tan you are fabulous 🖤 I have a question for you - What about pluto/vertex aspects in natal and synastry? In pluto and in the 8th house. I don't find many astrologers touch on the vertex, though it most definitely is an angle.
I exclusively attract Plutonian relationships (no indications of this in my birth chart so I’m not sure how or why this is the case!!) Is there a way to stop this pattern so I can finally have a normal healthy relationship?
สวัสดีค่ะ Is quintile hard or soft aspect? When I search on Google, can I read “sextile” instead? For example, Venus quintile Pluto in natal chart, can I read Venus sextile Pluto instead? I can’t find “quintile” on the internet.
@@TanAstrology how do I solve my Pluto issues? I have pluto rising, pluto square my venus, and scorpio rising and moon. I used to attract very obsessive intense people. I'm that myself but once in a blue moon when someone stirs that up in me
