Astroturfing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) 

Ditto!

I actually didn't watch this episode for the longest time because that is what I thought lol

Same

@ZionHillCalling Ah...you make me sad my kinsman.. :c I thought you dutchmen were responsible like us Danes....dig up the yard and fill it with pebbles :D

The astroturf industry does its own astroturfing. You are incidentally correct.

OMG I just spit out my muffin reading that. lmao

🤣🤣🤣.

Count your blessings. The Castrati.

I thought the EXACT same thing

That's a cursed comment if I ever saw one 😂

I know right.

How will I feed my children a healthy diet without high fructose corn syrup?!

I am pretty sure the tax was for juices and sodas.

@@jeremyanderson3819 Juices are also not that healthy. One cup a day - sure. One liter a day? Not so much.

Gergely Kosztolányi Even a cup a day is pretty bad. Drink water!!

Indeed.

Different circumstances. _Scumbag Bob's_ was a SLAPP case, i.e. without real merit or substance. This would have been slander, which is actionable for good reason, and _LWT_ would have lost.

@@Gaius__ I honestly thought it's just because *geriatric Dr Evil's* case was still in the court and Business Daddy wasn't too keen on invoking the wrath of other companies

He had already taken some legal action, I think, so it was already kind of passed that point.

To who really is in controll you Just need to look at what you can't legaly say or do

Same, I was like, " oh no, is astro turf bad now?!"

Me too haha

The Groovy Guitar Dude - Daily Guitar Lessons who says "AstroTurf" anymore? It's called field turf now, not that Astro shit.

You're not alone. I did, too. I'm like, "What kind of shady stuff could astroturf manufacturers be into? Or is it that laying fake grass is actually harming the enviroment or something?" Yeah, clearly, I'd never heard the term before. XD

ill lay down some astroturf so they dont scrub their kne-kne-kne-kne-knees

John Oliver is Zazu from The Lion King a sage old hornbill

Smart Aleck Comedy I'm glad you didn't say owl.

Smart Aleck Comedy: Turtles are stupid. Remember Terrapins for Trump?

Timothy McCaskey #NotAllTurtles

EXCEPT OLIVER DOESN"T TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH: astroturfing is OBVIOUS felony fraud and systemic FRAUD. ANY DECEPTION for money = FELONY FRAUD. IT'S A CRIME LIKE ANY OTHER... so why will NO ONE tell the public this? SPREAD THE TRUTH, because HBO won't let Oliver tell you the COMPLETE facts. Clickbait is also exact FRAUD.

Yeehaw

Especially as her background doesn't exactly paint her as seriously underpaid.

🤣😂

Right. “How much is your soda lady?” “$1” Oh, how much is your kid’s tuition? “$100,000.99, But you gotta spend money to make money” Translation: “I don’t like everyone else to have the same opportunities as me, because that shows I’m a nobody, and we are all equal”

And dude, if you’re getting financially destroyed by a few cents, SODA IS NOT A THING YOU NEED. My family isn’t struggling financially, but I don’t think anybody *needs* soda. Water is both cheaper and healthier, and if you were really low on money, you wouldn’t be buying soda. Such a clearly fake thing.

“Look when Britain taxed our tea we got frisky/imagine what gonna happen when you try to tax our whiskey”

@@gennybaratta2460 Come to Australia, our alcohol is taxed 40% plus :S we are just too lazy to get angry lol

fructose supresses the feeling of fullness and contributes to obesity, its not used but its proccessed by the liver and acts like a poison check out the book "Year Of No Sugar"

@@VincentGonzalezVeg so all fruits are poison? Or is it specifically when its extracted for use outside of what naturally occurs in fruits?

@@jamesloucka1952 "everything can kill" so genrally theres a lethality of everything Just Like how dogs can die from Chocolate-the active lethal ingredient is theobromine dogs specifically don't metaboloze the chemical fast enough, everything has chemicals, and as organic organisms we are biological machines the book "Year Of No Sugar" The Author is going Sugar Free with her family Her, Her Husband, and two kids I was reading parts of it and taking notes because i was just taking notes on Eating/Digestion my body for the past 4 years has decided to refuse to proccess sugars of certian varieties, So im on a low "FODMAP" diet like lactose intolerance so when i drink a can of fruitjuice it feels like i have a rotary tool in my abdomen and it was at a 7 avarage for every day really i was reccomending that people checkout the book the author was talking about how the liver processes the fructose and its like an empty calory

Or, it could be a PR stunt for himself... He is a struggling actor after all, so making a name for himself is important if he want to no longer be 'struggling'. Now, everyone knows about him, so he is more bankable in a film than my roommate Jeremy.

@@applemauzel poor Jeremy

@@PRINCEJORDANTYSON yeah i agree...but damn dude change your name XD

@@PRINCEJORDANTYSON Wait a minute... For real? That actually you? Dude, honestly, you commanded a lot of respect from me. Even though you look like the villian from Despicable Me 3, you have something a lot of people in the country don't: backbone. You fucked up, you knew you fucked up, you were honest about how you fucked up, and you made sure that people affected by it knew that you knew that you fucked up. That takes a LOT of courage, especially these days where people (me included) just hide behind screens, spout out total bullshit in the hopes that we'll get noticed, and then try to avoid accountability for it once we've attracted attention. You have my respect as a intelligent human being, which I'd argue is greater than the respect I give actors I love (RDJ and Cumberbatch specifically). And y'know what, when I have the time, I will actively search out a film piece with your name in it and watch it. Can't promise I'll enjoy it, but you deserve the chance for me to judge it. And who knows, maybe I'll really like it and then you'll get crazy famous and I'll say I knew about you before you were cool. Never know...

That's the same logic Boris Johnson had. and he looks like Boris Johnson.

The difference between poison and cure, is the dose. But sometimes you should be toxic. Like anytime you talk about either of our garbage political parties.

@@tomhill3248 Or while talking about your favorite Britney Spears song

@@SennaHawx Exactly!

While scepticism is healthy. Cynicism. Real cynicism is toxic. - John Oliver.

Not really suprising tbh, just infuriating.

Welcome to the USA!!

I feel like there could be a lot of grey area that's hard to dance around. Think of people who were with trying to go to things like BLM demonstrations, the March for Life, or the Women's March. If someone gives you money for gas, food, or lodging (think donations so that people can take off work or school can spend the day demonstrating), then that might be seen as paying someone to protest. I imagine it'd be splitting hairs between protesters-for-hire and actual non-profit protesters

A law like that would be struck down as violating the 1st amendment.

@@paulwblair Uhh, how? I'm not American but isn't the 1st amendment protected speech? That would be a law targeted at lobbying not vocal support?

Well, bottled water is more expensive than bottled soda, so if you live in a Midwestern town full of lead or a Southern town with fracking, you can be forced to buy soda, but in the case of the average American, yeah, this isn't at all a problem.

@@elvarestep3323 wait are you overexaggerating or is soda actually cheaper than water in america?

@@allegro6104 It's cheaper than bottled water, and since we have terrible water regulation, tap water is unavailable to some people, the famous example is Flint, Michigan, but a lot of towns in Kentucky and other fracking states also have toxic tap water.

@@allegro6104 no soda is actually cheaper than bottled water

Also soda is consumed a lot more by lower income households than higher income households. The higher income ones generally buy more fruit juices and healthier alternatives. Lower income families can't always afford 100% grape juice and stuff like that so if your kids want something that's more interesting than water, you have to go soda. The concept is also the same with frozen foods and fatty snacks

Would it also be anti-Semitic as well? :O

Another successful Lindsay Bluth passion project.

LMAOOOOOO

Topical!

Brilliant :D

Sam Masghati indeed

Be sure to watch the rest of the episode, he went over some other very important stuff. You can find rips of the whole episode on youtube. They'll get striked for copyright infringement anyway, so the ad revenue still goes to Oliver&co

You didn't know? As in, didn't know for sure or didn't even suspect?

I've known about it for some time. I recommend that if you have Netflix, to watch the documentary Street Fight.

You mean money in politics? Secular Talk, young turks and rational national are talking about that for a long time.

To be fair, PETA isn’t exactly one of the good animal groups. You used a bad source to attack a bad group. Like using a quote from Hitler to talk smack about Al Capone. One is definitely worse than the other, but neither are exactly nominees for Sainthood.

PETA is still a garbage organization, so don't feel too bad

While the source may indeed be (highly, extremely) suss ... the sad fact is that PETA is by no means an honorable organization, either. This isn't meant as a diss towards animal rights activists & the movement for promoting humane practices (it's not), but as a reminder that bad actors can appear anywhere & in any guise.

@@zenkim6709 How terrible is Peta really? I think the biggest criticism I've seen so far is that they kill dogs and cats. But so does most animal shelters and the reason for that makes sense.

I bet there are people who have done their college thesis on statements made by astroturfing companies

I genuinely love this show because of it.

@@whoviandax8053 you're a great teacher. Thank you.

Are you kidding me? I didn't get to go to college but I feel like I know things about very specific subjects bc I watch these shows over and over cos they're informative and hilarious😂

Bob Marley RT if this made you cry :(

Didn't make me cry made me laugh because my dog is dumb enough to do this too and he looks so pathetic it's hard not to laugh when I pick him up

I don't have a dog but I actually worried about this happening.

Fortunately for me (or rather, my dog) I had headphones on, but I know she would have been miserable if I hadn't.

Poor dog :(

Matthew Crites so he’s a copy of a copy? Seems about right

Who looks like a discount orangutan. :D :D

if anything trump is a discount Boris. Atleast Boris got some brains.

Trump is the least of anything or anyone in any category. There's no discounted version of him because you can't get any lower than zero.

Looks aside, Prince Tyson is 100 times the man Trump will ever be. He actually had a conscience, and went back and admitted his wrongdoing, by his own will. And you know that dude needed the $100. There's currently an entire party of DC politicians who would never be capable of something like this.

Lol

Satan told me these mortals are idiots. They put them in the wrong place

I have been reborn. Thank you mein freind

Just dropped my ceremonial dagger 😂

Wouldn't that make it a ritual preparation ritual?

Conspiracy theorists don't consider things. They just make shit up and believe their own bullshit.

That is true, but also it should apply to everyone. John Oliver took the word of an actual astroturfing organization (US Right to know = anti-vaccine, anti-GMO and more) and attacked a non-profit science promotor. (American Council on Science and Health). Hilarious, but sad.

So mentioning their donors is "attacking"?

By attacking I mean the false statements Oliver made about the organization. Read about it here if you feel like it: www.acsh.org/news/2018/08/13/if-john-oliver-wants-be-funny-about-science-non-profits-i-can-help-write-better-material-13303

So Tim Phillips, what Astroturfing organization do you work for?

KBikert even non american people like me watch it to understand western world and international issues

Even though there is a heavy democratic bias and im republican i still enjoy most of the show

stonks

That's really cool. If more people were only this virtuous...

Is what the US did in Panama and other Latin American countries count as astroturfing...?

Sure

Hmmm. I don't hear of people knowledgable about propaganda that use it for anything remotely good. Nice to see your comment pop up.

Funny thing about astroturfing: it's always the OTHER SIDE doing it. wink wink nudge nudge

Idk if they are being paid. People are really that stupid

There are parrots, but there's also those who know how to train the parrots.

This comment didn't age well, and if you think it did then please be advised it is safe to come out of your house just like it always was.

Robert Zhelyazkov ..Thank YOU! with Love! Prince Jordan Tyson..(PrinceTyson.com)

John Oliver took the word of an actual astroturfing organization (US Right to know = anti-vaccine, anti-GMO and more) and attacked a non-profit science promotor. (American Council on Science and Health). Hilarious, but sad.

@@princejordantysoniii902 holy shit it's the real guy himself!😂😂 Congrats man you're a hero

But he was already paid lol

@@akumamakima2280 That's what I was going to say! The bastard most likely did it for shameless self-promotion purposes, which I also applaud!

I thought so, too 😂

you and me both...

Me too, I was wondering for a second b/c I never heard of that before.

You're thinking of terraforming. ;p

Zero Cool Citizens!! We must destroy the Bugs.

yessir, super scary

It’s getting unreal

For what, the lockdown protests?

@@psychicbyinternet yes

Jojo Giles makes ya wonder why it aint

Absolutely agree! Philosophy used to be a required subject. It was painful! But indispensable in the development of critical thinking skills. Seems like debate class was also required. The US has really dumbed down.

No state legislature is going to allow that, they have to protect themselves.

Indeed

I think the class where I learned that the most was Speech and Debate (which thankfully was required in my district). When you're looking at evidence, you always have to consider the source!

Caper INC your avatar makes that abundantly clear XD

Best laugh I had all day! ty

Comedy gold

Yea I have an online presence, a flaming baby and about 20 to 30 people chanting "we want fresher orange juice!" on my lawn and my lawn still isn't ready for the soccer game this weekend. I'm confused.

You did not listen, its a corporate hired fake company to make bogus claims and demonize their apposition via advertising, and social media etc.

...and people in those RTW states wear it as a badge of honor.

@@stoneman28 Ya they do. They work for significantly less money and crap benefits because of a catch phrase that sounds good. Dumb as shit.

dangit I knew Oliver was in the pocket of big OJ

catfishwithwhiskers and all this time i thought he was in the pockets of dewalt ladders.

The oranges are people! The oranges are people!

Its worse than that, as Mr. Oliver is also in the pocket of the efforts to legalize live baby burning...

...and some oranges are more people than others...

Whiskey it's too green!

Kind of wish it was...

Same.

Whiskey same 😂

justinutube ף0ף

And it's idiots like you who vote for Hillary and Pelosi and other sellout corporate democrats who allow these things to happen

@@VideoGameCenter100... The fuck are you talking about?

From Memes 2 Dremes huh? Get triggered much?

From Memes 2 Dremes holy shit lmao. I'm sure the GOP and the corporations you worship don't astroturf at all. Gtfo of here

Astroturfing is not new. It's quite old, and has been covered many times before. If you don't know about it, that's on you.

me

Pleasantly surprised

That's exactly why I clicked. lol!

I almost didn't watch it because of that. Lol

I did, I freaking hate that stuff, and I was looking forward to seeing John bash it for a while.

If anyone could keep us entertained and informed about actual astroturf it would be John Oliver. I clicked on this cos I really wanted to see how he did it...

First comment was my first thought. Second comment was my second thought. Why I clicked on the video.

Well first it was called polyturf then AstroTurf and sometimes tartan turf in Dallas and the new England Patriots had super turf until the next generation of artificial grass came in....

Very slowly

On the surface, there's nothing ethically wrong with offering pretend support for someone for pay. After all, people should be able to (and should be expected to) form their own opinions about someone without entertaining fallacious ad populum reasoning, so your acting gig shouldn't actually matter in the slightest. But dig a little deeper and you find the ethically suspect part: the center of the IQ bell curve has, time and again, proven itself unable to make well-reasoned decisions on their own. And so they're taken advantage of by stuff like this, time and time again.

Was it Kevin Hart?

Claiming Light The Bell curve was fallacious bullshit.

It's a common and, under normal circumstances, rational mental heuristic to take the testimony and apparent support of others into account when forming an opinion. It does not always necessarily lead to fallacy. There is absolutely not enough time in the day to form a full and well reasoned individual opinion on every topic available. You don't have to be an idiot to fall for this sort of stuff.

Drew: That's just plainly untrue. If an idea can't stand without support, it can't stand with it. If it can stand without support, it doesn't need it to stand. Added: So while it might be rational from a corner-cutting point of view, you'll never have an answer for yourself that you can confidently call correct. Fallacious reasoning could *happen* to produce an objectively true answer, but you'd never know it as true if you arrived at it foolishly. And, of course, we have to remember the topic of the video itself-- highlighting the sort of hucksterism that makes crowd-following a foolish thing from the start.

Lucian Florin Feier depends on how active your little dog is.

You killed it bro

Cassandra Bankson At that very moment I died.

Another great example of Astroturfing would be "right to work" laws. Or as explained by Martin Luther King jr: “In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, such as ‘right to work.’ It is a law to rob us of our civil rights and job rights. Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining by which unions have improved wages and working conditions of everyone…Wherever these laws have been passed, wages are lower, job opportunities are fewer and there are no civil rights. We do not intend to let them do this to us. We demand this fraud be stopped. Our weapon is our vote.” -Martin Luther King, speaking about right-to-work laws in 1961

Good job 🖕

Report for spam. Jesus christ Cassandra, chill with trying to advertise your channel.

Cassandra Bankson 😂

Tristan Neal Trump is human self incrimination.

This is so accurate that I'm going to cry on my kitchen floor now.

Everything Trump accuses others of, he is guilty of himself. Wouldn't be surprised if he has more paid protesters than anyone else.

hes always wrong but hes always right somehow godamnit

Also he also got a great deal on paid protesters, I mean $50 is pretty cheap, while he complains about his opponents paying protesters $1500.

He should be Dumbledore!!

crb2061 I d rather have him as professor Binns

I want to hear him insult mandrakes

Okay, but then he'll only last for 1 year. Hahaha

Well he already looks a lot like Harry Potter so

I've probably watched most of the episodes on RU-vid 2 or 3 times now but I'm avoiding the chicken one at all costs

@@whydoineedahandle1058 in all honesty, I had been avoiding the Churches one until a couple months ago

I'm gonna use that to get outta tough situations from now on. "Hamza, why did you kill that innocent man with a rusty butter knife?!" *shrug* "Well.......i wasn't under oath to not specifically kill him with a rusty butter knife"

"Astroturfers are gonna come to your house, and *light your baby on fire!* ...Paid for by Citizens for Fresher Orange Juice." XD

I beg to differ; have seen plenty of reckless/careless "mothers."

Still less believable than "A dog knocked something over that *really* shouldn't have been knocked over"

I dunno man I’m a social worker and we had a mentally ill lady bathe her little baby in boiling water because she was convinced it help get rid of all the germs

Kate Jesus. That's one of the worst things I've ever heard, and I worked in a Burn Unit.

My roommate works in the humane society and they got in a cat that someone put in a microwave to punish it. After a lot of treatment the cat is going to be fine, but that still destroyed some of my faith in humanity.

Yup, a reddit thread investigating "liberation protests" brought me here.

Bex Ed this will show you who’s behind the stings right now. Can you reply to me on your thoughts after seeing how corrupt the US is? Watch the video and tell me some of your thoughts. Please I’d really love to hear your opinion!!! m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J3hFfbIXpg4.html

@@zainshute Hi, sorry it took me long to get back to you! Thanks for sharing this channel with me, I had not seen their content before. When I saw your comment I ended up watching several of their videos. The one they posted today was great and needed as well (and I remembered that oops I forgot to respond to someone that for once was sharing something out of interest and not calling me a liberal shill/lying whore/communist cunt). I have been heavily invested in studying American misinformation and propaganda the last five years. It's a fucking mess, to put it lightly. There are so many bad actors influencing what happens and how people interpret it in the US right now. I think "good" people have an obvious weakness, and that is that they don't imagine the bad, and when they do they minimize it - "fringe groups", "a few bad apples", "some random radical". For five years I have been shocked and disgusted, how can people live with themselves when creating propaganda? How can people blindly believe in propaganda? Why do people feed old hatred? This shock and disgust is good, it's what I "should" feel, but with time you learn (rightly) to expect this disgust. Then you can be a step ahead of it. Sadly you have to allow yourself to role-play evil in order to understand it. You have to imagine being a villain with endless means. You have to look at a bad situation and think "how can I make this worse?" You have to look at suffering and think "how can I take advantage of this?" You have to look at conflict and think "how can I make this escalate?" Too many "good" people stick their heads in the sand. Too many "good" people think we are unique and "bad" is what was defeated in history. Too many "good" people refuse to stand up for the good they think just magically endures.

Bex Ed what makes it worse is that politicians that want to actually make a diffrence can’t get any influence because there competitors who spread hate and propaganda gets funded by billion dollar company’s and industry’s. We started out as small tribes around the world caring about one another to this. I hope humanity will open its eyes one day 🙏🏾😔

Alex jones was talking about this year's ago

As have other programs, however Alex Jones libertarianism has no response against it.

Well, corporations ARE people so they technically can be called a grassroots lol

Thank you!

Which answers the question "What kind of person leaves a candle near a baby ?"

I made a screenshot of that picture. If I ever have to explain the meaning of the word "smug" to somebody I have the perfect instrument.

Anthony Lourenco Had me holding my stomach from the deep blissfully painful laugh...

Putting aside whether it was fictional or not, that man was a burn surgeon. All children in his care were burned before he got involved.

Later on that guy did admit he just made the whole thing up about burning babies.

Actually, a very similar situation happened in San Francisco: the local Trash Company testified that "X" would "clog up the recylcing machines" unless San Francisco "banned X" or "passed this law." They did it for the 10cent paper bag law, phone books, etc. It didn't matter that there were no such "recycling machines" to gum up. This trash environmental lobbyiest just lied lied lied and nobody called out the BS. the Progressives just ate it up and the SF Chronicle parroted it. It drove me mad nobody would call it out. I wrote a letter, and they labeled me a "conspiracy theorist" and the clerk left it out of the file.

Start with pizza parlors and Catholic churches.

Pizza parlours?

So clever. Please teach us.

*Spams more references of video to try to advertise youtube channel.* Cassandra, amiga, chill with the rapid-fire comments.

Cassandra Bankson, fail. You should definitely leave the clever to Oliver.

Presented by Tyler Perry...starring Madea.

Being featured on such a popular show is in itself a good promotion.

It's nice to see struggling actors find god

Yes, kudos to the guy who took money in order to lie to get laws changed in an underhanded disgusting way. Thank God he didn't stick to the contract he made agreeing not to reveal that. He really sticks by the agreements he makes and signs. He seems very trustworthy and is clearly an amazing actor as evidenced by his 3 minutes of Shakespeare here. Please shout him out so he can get roles where he only has to sell his soul to Hollywood monsters and not DC monsters. Kudos for "taking a stand?" Are we on the same planet? Taking a stand would have been saying "No" when asked "Will you take $100 to lie in front of people?" Doing it afterwards isn't taking a stand...it's agreeing to get paid to do something grimey and then acting like you didn't agree to get paid to do something grimey. "Yes I know it's terrible I lied for money, but I at least admitted it afterwards...I still kept the $100 though. I'm a saint. Please get me a role starring in Nolan's next film."

Cook County Illinois was in a huge uproar over it a couple of years ago, because the County government decided to up the tax by 1¢ per oz. So for example a 2 liter bottle of soda cost 67¢ more. Vending machines, which aren't designed to take one cent pieces, had to either undercharge by 2¢ or overcharge by 3¢ for a 12 oz can. Dollar stores couln't charge only a dollar for the purchase. Etc.

Either way, that is a seriously punchable face. Hell, my hand involuntarily made a fist just looking at that slimy smirk on his face in that photo.

I would so do him though. And more than once, because he's probably loaded by now.

Child support ftw

sickest burn i heard in a while lol

hahaha' that's hilarious.

And then John delivered him a 100% burn. :D

Chase T How many burns is that?

Damn. Burn.

I think John gave the stories in that order, but the order these stories happened IRL was 80% (and the mom put the candle near the crib) first, 75% (dog knocked the candle over) a year latter, and 50% (mom put candle IN the crib) at the most recent testimony.

Holy shit, that's over 200% burn! That is one burned baby!

ZesPak I work for a candle company and we are looking to make cribs with candle night light. We will give you 1500 dollars but for god sake don’t say you got paid. Deal ?

Hunter Manley I was actually a bit disappointed when I realized it wasn't

I was too but I'm glad it wasn't about that because I want a fake front lawn soon.

Same. I was like oh boy what does john have to say about fake grass???

Elvisneedsboats Bennett that baby is lit yo

Hey, you never know when the power's going to go out, and where's the last place you want to stumble and fall into in the dark? That's right: a crib with a cute little baby in it.

Your dog is cute !

Cris KP thank you, his name is Booger.

This isn't authentic British humor, though. If you want that, and a lot of insights into the way govt. works, I recommend you watch the classic show "Yes, Minister" (and its sequel, "Yes, Prime Minister").

Oooh, it's imported! Swanky!

it's not that British now, he's trancended, it's universal...

basti vargas you're just now realizing this?

Exactly. Unfortunately looks like your teacher was an exception and that common sense is on the decrease, otherwise these manipulative tactics would not be successfull enough. Not to mention that they should not be legal in the first place in my opinion..

He sure does mention Trump a lot. Hmm.

Another great example of Astroturfing would be "right to work" laws as explained by Martin Luther King jr: “In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, such as ‘right to work.’ It is a law to rob us of our civil rights and job rights. Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining by which unions have improved wages and working conditions of everyone…Wherever these laws have been passed, wages are lower, job opportunities are fewer and there are no civil rights. We do not intend to let them do this to us. We demand this fraud be stopped. Our weapon is our vote.” -Martin Luther King, speaking about right-to-work laws in 1961

Shouldn't trust anyone 100% sadly.

Jack Ban Woah woah woah; I think people just voted against "right to work" laws in Michigan days ago. That's insane that they're still trying to screw us over.

nooberNXC And justifiably so, because Trump is a liar.

Nerd moment but read the rope dragon (as in 50-feet of rope that can form into a little dragon made out of that said rope at will) entry for pathfinder here, it actually does love baked goods: www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/dragons/dragon-rope/

Its all part of the Grand Wizard's plan to turn the frogs gay!

Tacet the Terror How ELSE would the bakers get their fires started in the morning?!?!

As someone who has founded a religion based on dragons, I can confirm they love bakeries.

As a dragon I can confirm this as well.

Oh welcome to our cult

Ihaia Rollo You mean I can’t buy a farm on the moon? I was looking forward to milking my space cows!