I watched your update about the auto rotation fix. Have you heard if the issue where the controls for up and down not working in vertical mode (I think BYOG) have been fixed or will be fixed by launch?
Thanks for the great review and comparison between the two. Good point you made that the Legends Ultimate Mini, despite its smaller 18" screen (vs 24"), has MORE space during gameplay on *vertical* games than the standard (larger and FAR heavier) Legends Ultimate in both 'Fit mode' and 'Pixel Perfect mode'. Got this for only US$199 from Sam's Club + $18.xx shipping (sold out now). No brainer for $199 since the ALU was still $350 at Sam's Club and had already sold out before I had a chance to decide between the two! The Mini is far lighter which is nice for moving it around if needed. The main negative of the Mini for me is the lack of the trackball and spinners though - going to look into aftermarket options (doubt my old Wico trackball will work - just kidding).
My only gripe is they no longer have & took out the spinner & trackball. Considering the fact they got rid of buttons, you'd think they'd have enough space for at least one of the two. There are also smaller trackballs & spinners they could've used for this & they probably would've fit.
I love the rotating screen. Well done Atgames. Not everyone has a giant house w room for 3 machines and their products do a ton to help w that. I still love that my legends ultimate has a spinner and ball plus 2 controllers, that seems rare. Just wish I had more options for artwork on version 1
I think this is a great entry product for people who want a full-size home arcade but don't want to spend a ton of money. If I hadn't bought the Legends Ultimate a few months back, and was looking to get something as my first full arcade, and both of these were available, I'd likely have gone for this over that. And I'm betting this will be available at a reduced price at Sam's Club or somewhere else eventually.
Great no nonsense video! The Atgames Legends Ultimate truly looks like the best option here. I've been on the fence about picking one of those up because I wanted to see what the mini had to offer. Now I don't regret cancelling my pre-order for the mini and sticking with the Legends Gamer Pro!
Honestly... when it comes to vertical cabinets like this... you are better off removing the marquee altogether, and using a larger vertical monitor that takes up most of the space of the marquee, etc... and then be able to simply display a marquee image for the game in CoinOps,etc to fill in the unused space, since most of the classic games are not widescreen. This also gives you a wider screen for horizontal games as well, and this gives the best of all options with no need to rotate a screen.
I think this makes sense at the $299 plus shipping I was able to get on NOD. I agree at $400 your better off saving up another $100 and getting the full size ultimate at $500.
Would be cool, if AtGames came out with a screen replacement for the big cabinet, so we could rotate the monitor on that model, too. At least they're listening to you. This mini cuts out so many other games, by not having a trackball, or spinners, unfortunately. Thanks for sharing.
Very good honest review. For me personally I think it’s a miss as a dedicated vertical cabinet. If it had a 4:3 or 5:4 screen and a trackball I might consider it (I’m curious why they wouldn’t include a trackball and/or spinner knowing that many might use this just in vertical mode) The vertical games look small on the 16:9 screen playing in the proper aspect ratio. I can definitely see why it would be a good option for some though.
only thing i dont like about the mini is the price rest of it good to me i would buy one if it was $300 . 2 player,trackball,spinner don't bother me not having one cuz i never really used trackball and spinner .
The mini is attractive to me because I would want to put a 4-way Leaf stick in it, and use it as a dedicated vertical cabinet for Pac-Man and Donkey Kong and such
I just purchased the mini stand alone console with pinball kit, I really don't have space for a cabinet. I purchased a 32" lcd with a stand to rotate between vertical / horizontal games. I wish they would have made a 1player version with a trackball and spinner. I'll be using mostly coinops x for game play.
Nice review mate! I was about to spend the bet better part of $1000usd importing one if these but after watching this and a few other reviews I'm happy sticking with my legends connect
I loved the Ultimate when I had it in for review. I wish I could justify buying one. The Mini looks nice, but I’d miss that spinner and the second stick for Robotron. (I also wish it had better screen modes. The NeoGeo cab I had offered a quite nice CRT filter.)
Nice piece... we can always count on Doug to provide a candid review. I'll be interested in seeing the price difference for the standup units in Canada. It's possible that the Mini will be more compelling in markets outside of the US as the Ultimate retails for more than USD$700 here. I have to wonder if AtGames has any plans to provide a variation of their screen rotation solution for the Ultimate. From a product strategy standpoint, I'm also surprised that they didn't go with an offering to address the cocktail segment. The differences in the pricing and feature set between the Mini and Ultimate are fairly nominal and provide more of an either/or purchasing decision as opposed to a +1.
I would prefer holes in the plexi that match the hand grips, and you just grab the screen and tilt it, without unscrewing anything and removing and then replacing the plexi. I know that would leave holes in the front of the cabinet, but I personally would prefer that. Unfortunately, cutting those holes in the plexi yourself is difficult, and needs decent tools. Maybe they could offer a replacement plexi with the proper cutouts?
I don't mind it only having single player controls, but they REALLY should have included the trackball and spinner. If it had that, I would have purchased one. As it is, I bought the full-sized Legends Ultimate.
Nice review. I'm passing on this but definitely see the appeal, especially for vertical games. The question I have is which version of the pinball tables this is running. It was rumored this would run versions for the Legends pinball, and if so that would be interesting since presumably there'd have to be some adjustments to those tables since there's no backglass.
The screen on the mini will never be able to adapt instantly by rotating it like a cell phone. Cell phones have built-in gyroscopes to engage that feature. To have this type of screen in these would be way too costly for them to sell this. I'm quite certain though that they will fix this through firmware update
If they are into making things modular, maybe in the future there could be some way to connect two full size legends. That way you could have in home, something to the effect of owning a double screen x-men, with all four players having comfortable elbow room. With the ability to play one game on both screens, but also have the ability to play two different games if you choose. Need to move or change ur house and you’ve run out of space? It just becomes two separate cabinets and you can move them around the house or sell one off if you need to. I agree why not just buy the full size. I was hoping this would be a 200 ish dollar price difference not just 100. Thanks for the info.
I see a market for this. It provides a "real feel" in a smaller package with extended pinball functionality. Although it seems your losing features, I disagree. For single people, people on a budget and /or people with tiny apartments, this mini is providing more of a little bit of everything package and at a slightly smaller price point. Hopefully they continue to refine and improve it.
I'd also add this seems to definitely be incorporating pinball and it's only my opinion but virtual pinball is very desirable and a strong force right now which may carry more weight and value in the market right now for some people.
Not bad, but just like the arcade1up first generations Theres lots of room for improvement,it is good for people to have more choices though As always thumbs up for your videos, they really mean a lot...
In the new era where Arcade1Up cabinets are $599 and $699, the AtGames Legends Ultimate cabinet can still be found for $499, with 300 legal/fully licensed ROMs from the 8 bit, 16 bit consoles and arcade. With 2 player support, a decent full sized trackball, 2 spinners, and a nice chunk of original Atari game ROMS (not to mention the TRON arcade games), the original Legends Ultimate is worth the extra $100 over the "skinny" version here. This "mini" cabinet should be under $300.
i agree it should be $260 to $300 at most when you can buy a ALU for $500 and you get so much more for extra $100 but i really like that screen flip and screws don't bother me
Just got a shipment is delayed email from AtGames about the Tetris version of this cab. Here’s an excerpt from that email: “The good news is that we were able to send Legends Ultimate Mini Tetris® Limited Edition samples to a small handful of RU-vid influencers, so they will be able to share their findings with the community in advance of delivery. This will be a valuable educational resource in anticipation of receipt of your own Legends Ultimate Mini Tetris® Limited Edition.” You and PDubs should feel honored to be such educational resources. /sarcasm.
Cool video man. This sounds like a bargain with these supply chain issues and Arcade 1up constantly raising their prices. I am surprised Disney allows their games to be on this thing. Only 1 player dedicated controls is kind of a bummer though, I would just keep it in Portrait mode for pinball in that case.
Disney has been a long standing partner with AtGames, they've licensed tons of their games on various AtGames devices over the years, this one included.
Is this supposed to be a question or a statement? I clearly stated both products were sent to review and then send off to another person down the line to do the same.
Hello Cooltoy, how can i access the Game Lost of fighters/fighting games. I notice in this vídeo i Saw one and can i play online??? I do not owned an arcade yet bit i need more info before making a purchase. Thanks
thanks for the review. very well done. i would have been interested, but it doesn't have the atari games on it. only the taito, and other releases. i already have the 2 player gamer pro deck, so i don't think this is worth it for me. it's a good cabinet, but since they don't have enough other games in the store,its not worth it for me. i can already all my own roms to the other one, so the only point of this is having it in a stand up version thats smaller. later -1
if you already have the 2 player gamer, then this would be somewhat redundant for you to pick up, unless you were just dead set on having something with a screen positioned vertically .
Like the concept but I can't see anyone who already owns the full size or modded 1ups jumping on this if anything they will buy the full size this is really only good for a certain market such as someone who has a big dorm room in college and wants something fun to play while having downtime
Reality is if you have a Legends Pinball, there's no point of getting this as the Pinball does vertical better on top of the trackball. What they need to do with screen rotation issue is too make it easier like magnetic on the plexiglass instead of screw on.
On par with the weight of an Arcade1up cabinet, easily can be moved around by one person. Speakers sounded fine to me, and are located underneath the light up marquee, just like on the normal Legends Ultimate.
@@cooltoy Im looking for a multi game console that has all of the Classic Arcade games, Donkey Kong, Pacman, Galaxia ect. Not 3000 games I have never heard of or played. Im looking for a GOOD machine. Money not an option. just looking for best bang for my buck...TIA
Fully aware, but it’s not something that is copyrighted to a degree where other manufacturers could not be doing the same or similar thing on other machines. The implementation for rotating screen arcade cabinets has been around for several decades and has been used by many different companies.
Since you have AtGames ear, I’m perplexed as why if I buy pinball games for the Tetris Mini (they are shipping a bunch for free as it is pretty late) why can’t I use the games on an AtGames Pinball if I was to upgrade at a later time? I had planned on buying a bunch of Pinball packs when the bundles went on sale, but I’m certainly not going to wish to pay for the same games in the future. (In other words, it would dampen if not kill the idea of getting a Pinball in the future). If they truly are different coded programs, why not simply sell us the license for the game (to play at home) and have no additional costs if we were to buy a new machine and wish to transfer the purchase. Cheers!
If you tie the downloads to your ArcadeNET account you have the ability to re-download the tables on other AtGames machines you own without repurchasing the files a second time.
Pretty cool device! How does the size compare to an Arcade1up machine? Is it possible they were shooting for a size that fits better in an Arcade1up filled gameroom?
I think I might have to pick up this mini. Had no idea it was coming out. I like the slimmer size and already have enough arcade 1up machines, so this would be a good pickup for me. I see you can pick up a plug and play usb stick for the ultimate that has 1,800 games installed. Do you think that would also be compatible for the mini considering it’s the same build? Thx for posting!
I would avoid purchasing a USB stick. For starters all the information on how to compile your own USB filled with games for free is already online. Secondly those USB sticks are essentially a "moment in time" and can become obsolete with a random firmware update, so it wouldn't be wise to pay money to someone to get something that can be suddenly useless the moment you update your machines firmware.
@@cooltoy really? Did they upgrade the internal components on the larger one with that version 2? To me, if there is one big problem with this unit, it’s the fact that the online, subscription games run really really poorly. :(
Please clarify something. Do you need to constantly be connected online to access offline games or even the games you add to this ecosystem (this product and all At Game arcade variants?
@@xcom6466 but the majority of arcade games are played with joystick and not played with spinners or track ball so not a deal breaker for some.The price point for alu mini excludes this but for a hundred more u can get the alu arcade that has what u need.
@@JoseOrtiz-pp1vm This thing stinks,, the proper aspect ratios make the screens smaller than 1ups 17 inch monitor both vertically and horizontally. Even worse, the shape is hideous at best.
Looks like another half baked idea from Atgames. I already have their Ultimate Legends Pinball and have continued sound issues with the haptics despite Atgames sending out another set of speakers and also purchasing the new conrol deck. The distortion of the haptic speakers is unbearable even when set to 10 or even 0! I have lost all faith in their products.
I’m not pushing anything, I reviewed the product and specifically said to people in this video I don’t tell people what to buy and they should do whatever suits them best
