Ather Rizta 2024 First Impressions | S02E23 

*Chapters* 00:00 Long Time Coming 02:09 Family Scooter Challenge 03:28 Porsche Panamera 05:08 Design 07:55 Details: Chetak vs Rizta 09:45 Performance 11:41 Screens & Software 14:20 Riding The Ather Rizta 18:22 Our Test Bike's Issues 20:01 Performance 20:58 Suspension & Comfort 22:09 Brakes 22:50 More Details 23:54 Seat & Comfort 24:35 Traction Control 27:00 No ABS Though 28:00 Regenerative Braking 30:04 WhatsApp Integration 32:13 Ather Halo Helmet 35:43 Prices & Subscriptions 42:18 Charging The Rizta 43:01 Quick Summary 48:09 Halo? Goodbye 49:30 Software Updates 50:17 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships* youtube.com/@motorinc/join *Errors and updates* - The Rizta Z might be mislabelled as the Rizta X is a few places. Apologies! - MotorInc Fam members who attended the Ather Rizta event in Ahmedabad report that the software update cleared up the glitches we've reported. However, others who went for test rides in other places also saw an earlier version of the software which remained slow. Inference: by the time Ather starts deliveries, you should see fast and stable software.

I used to work for them, hearing so much praise from you lot makes me a little proud. Can't wait to see this on the view.

The approach you guys have taken here for reviewing twowheelers is just amazing. Two guys sitting and talking about every minute detail is way better than all those "unboxing" type videos available on all over internet.

The way Shumi talks about helmet safety without his usual joking makes this conversation quite good. Nice video

We definitely need a view story on the ather halo 😂

Damn, shumi felt so passionate while talking about safety & helmet. Kudos to you for taking stand as it's important for our community. 🔥🙌🏽

Sometimes it feels like Shumi is Jordan Peterson of Indian Automobile reviews...

‘Helmets are inconvenient’ is a logic I don’t understand. It’s a device designed to protect your head and neck - extremely vital parts of our body - which you can simply put on and strap in. How much more convenient does it have to be? Until such time when iron man’s nanotechnology becomes a reality where you just think and the helmet appears around your head, that is all the convenience we really need.

I was an early Ather adopter . Ather is a research oriented company with strong engineering acumen. They are a world class company with the right mixture of European and Japanese ethos. Hope they continue to deliver us well engineered products 👍🏻

You get helmets that cost 4.5k that are ece 22.05 rated. That plus a Blu Armour or a cheaper Sena Intercom will cost around 15k total. I would pick that combo anyday over the halo helmets

You guys should definitely do a disconnect episode on riding gears. You can talk about the latest safety standards and so on.

Thank god there are some sane voices left to call out Ola and their gigantic chain of BS. That company is misleading its customers and putting them in danger with those terrible scooters. I really hope people wake up and smell the bullshit happening and get out of this chain as quickly as they can.

Baseball cap and the microwave 😂😂😂😂😂 killed me

That cover-up of triple riding 😂😂 Gold!!!

I have brought 450x hr without pro pack for 159000rs onroad on march . After three months I have asked service manager to upgrade to pro pack . He told pro pack cost 40000rs . In the name of pro pack they are looting customers so big 🙏 to Ather

I first saw the Ather 450 parked outside the electrical engg department while walking around the campus at IITM back in 2017, and I recall saying to my friend "hey! that's a good looking scooter!" So good to see them come such a long way making great stuff!

Superb discussion, no extras or no BGs for distraction. Keep up the good work..

I love how Shumi Schumacher pointed out speed on the dash when the scooter was losing velocity while going uphill.🤭

The way conversations happening here is very soothing , and the minimal background is cherry on the cake

Going back to the comment I made on thepost that you guys had put up about the Rizta, there were no issues with the screen. The remaining were almost the same minor issues that Shumi spoke about.

Have to say, this is probably one of the best summaries from K, all love❤️

Professional and fun as always. The critical points are what keep people aware and manufactures on their toes and prevent them from misleading customers (like skid control as an excuse for safest scooter or DOT helmets) At the end, when Shumi mentioned this was a one charge ride on just the foothills, i know a lot of reviewers will publish such videos as final review of the product. More videos for more clarity and awareness!

Been following your channel for some time now, very glad I came across the both of you. Don’t think many vehicle reviewers come close to this level of quality in content. Good job, gents!

You guys compliment each other so well! its a treat watching you! Amazing Review!

i have been owner of 450X since 1.5 years and have clocked 2800km since last year . its one of the best piece of texhnology i own for sure . Ride quality is quiet reliable . When i gave it to my friends to drive their mind blows away . Few of my friends told me they will consider it once they rode the bike. I think that tells quality and work they have put out . Belt noise is issue for me but glad they have fixed it with new scooters. Hopefully some solution for older scooters. Rizta has filled the gap so now my parents can use it in thier hometown . In future will consider it in my hometown as a primary scooter for sure .

MID MAY - THEY SAID. SOON - THEY SAID. THE REVIEW/FIRST IMPRESSION IS FINALLY HERE IN MID JUNE. LOVED IT ❤

Damn! Had to re-watch this a couple of times. You guys covered so much content, it felt like I was watching a tv series. Agree that maybe Ather rushed it with this launch and Halo will leave a gaping hole in our heads. Great content again guys. Keep it going!

I believe Ather has got investors which are influencing the marketing and sales decisions. Worrisome is that, from this review, it is also starting to influence engineering decisions too. Knowing Ather, they may not have rushed, and perhaps gone with a new chassis. None of that seems to be the case. 'Rizta need to bring Ather name to lot more people' - that is a slippery slope with a semi-ready product.

I love your podcasts it’s on my A list. I listen it on my way to office and back. Your conversation brings so much info to the table it’s amazing. I don’t like Ev’s and I would skip it but I know if I don’t listen to it I’ll lose on the things like the helmet story 32:17 , the ABS things 27:21 and all the things apart from Ather. Love it guy’s ! ! !

Helmet advice great thanks

Loved your video

was waiting for this! thank you.

Shumi's passion towards 2Ws is contagious 🤌

For someone who's buying the rizta I think it's a hell of a good scooter and I think most of the decisions that rather has gone forward with justifies the scooter. I'm looking for a family scooter and this is advertised as one, if I wanted something lively I know where to look, if I wanted something even more lively I'd go buy a bike. When I'm looking for a family scooter I'm looking for reliability and convenience over everything else. The decision to go with the 450 motor and interiors (most of it) is I think really smart, considering it's a tried and tested hardware, with a new system, I feel it would have it's own highlights and challenges. I don't want to deal with them, let ather handle those with the "lively" ones. If it just starts, works and goes, hen it's all good for me, I don't want to be thinking about that at the back of my mind. For me, touchscreen as a feature if like taking a step back if it's exposed. In a car? Maybe. Outside, weathering through everything, I like a bit of precise control, heck the base variant screen and the top model battery would have been a sweet spot for me. I don't have any opinion on the design, it seems okay to me. Not bad, not something to wite home about. It sits right in the middle. Doesn't steal the attention, but thats not what it's striving for. I'm happy that they addressed the belt issue. The battery flap is okay with me because as Shumi said, convenience is welcomed, but I know anyway that with regular ICE I would have had to use both hands so it's fine. There's ample space. The seat is nice from all the reviews I've read, the suspension isn't just basic. The colors offered are interesting. The software I think could use a lot of fine tuning especially with the smart eco, because it doesnt seem to be smart if all it does is prioritise mileage. I think the points that he picked from the chetak were really important and I would rather call that a "smart" eco mode. The zip does its work really well, no complaints. The other things that seems a mild bit inconvenience to me was the 90 degree valve having a rubber base, I say mild because it's a once in a while thing to fill my tyres, and the large seat having just one point of contact. I think there should be some after market spine that holds it better. The points that people pick that your hand will crash through the back rest is a nit pick, I don't know anyone that closes their seat on that point of suface, everyone I know close it from the side of the vehicle. I think the scooter shouldn't be compared with other EVS, rather we it's a feather in the hat of EV vehicles against ICE family scooters. I'm with Shumi on his stand on the helmets. I DO NOT THINK ANYONE WHO CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES EVEN A LITTLE BIT SHOULD TOUCH IT WITH A 10-FOOT POLE.Do NOT ABSOLUTELY BUY IT BECAUSE IF YOU THROW YOUR MONEY AT THAT, THEN YOU LET OTHER'S KNOW WHERE YOUR PRIORITY LIES AND OPENS A CAN FULL OF WORMS THAT WILL BE TOO DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH. That is the most stupidest thing that ather has done and after writing about all that and how I think they did a smart thing with the decisions to build the scooter I find it hard to believe they just threw a spanner and released that thing. With a helmet, that things that ather prioritised are absolutely the last things that you should have to consider better yet not consider at all. Why would you work your ass off to build a scooter like that and then announce that monstrosity with the same thing? Shumi was absolutely right to not even speak about it, because bad puclicity is still publicity. To know the power that your word holds and still chosoe that way even thpugh you know that it might piss some people off is the most wise thing someone could do. I'm really excited to try the ather rizta but the direction with the helmets really puts me in a tough spot. They really need to question this decision and realise where it might take them.

I have just commented to your channel to review it you are made a video too thank you so much motorinc team i really appreciate your efforts thank you so much

Finally someone who knows and talks about helmets with the seriousness and intensity that this topic deserves. ESPECIALLY in India!!! Thank you Shumi 🙏👍

The helmet segment was so good! Thanks Shumi, manufacturers need to realize such gimmicks can easily result into bad PR since the product isn't really doing what it is supposed to do, instead trying to do multiple other things which is not part of its basic requirement.

Idk why but it's really satisfying to watch this video, well made!

Please have a ThisConnect episode covering Helmets and other riding gear.

34:08 we need more segments about safety equipments and quality standards.

Bhai nexon Ki 10.25 inch wali screen xuv3X0 ax5 se achhhi hai response ke hisabh se aapko kiska ACHha lagta hai smooth zyada kon sa hai pls reply

Went to their showroom found it weird them saying the rizta has 56L of storage for the sake of it. It is like saying the indie has 110L of storage.

Everytime I forget to tell you guys how much I love your intro, I love it

Loved this FIRST and also Shumi's aggression and passion for safest helmets... Apart from ECE, Sharp which all safety standards are good to refer ?

That's what you get when you watch guys with so many years of experience on automobiles. I get to learn so much and so many new things everytime there's a new upload, whether it's MotorInc first or ThisConnect. Absolutely love the conversations. And yes, now I know how to annoy Shumi, just put a Halo helmet infront of him, and enjoy the action.😁

On the Google Podcasts thing... they're moving over their library into YT Music now. So essentially, you can go over to YT Music even today and listen (or even watch, since YT Music has that clever Audio/Video toggle) to MotorInc First episodes. And since it's RU-vid, it stays in sync with however much you've watched on RU-vid as a video, and you can resume from the same point in audio-only from YT Music (and vice versa).

I really admire how you say so many good things about the Ather 450 series as well as the RIZTA. However, when it comes to helmets, your points are on the opposite side, which is really good to hear and know. I didn't know what DOT certified meant and thought it should be good enough. I got the helmet for free because I am one of the Ather Unlock winners. Now, it makes me think, should I be excited or not? But thank you for the honest feedback.

Have been waiting for this video

Would you recommend the rizta s variant for city use of 15 km daily ? Would it be a good choice over activa considering the extra cost of rizta.

Is it really any good if I have decided to keep it for more than 5 years? Because the battery needs to be replaced at some point?

Guys you missed to address how much of those marketed features are part of paid pro pack which costs 20k extra. Also all of the safety features are paid, like TC, Fall safety, SmartEco etc.

it seemed the helmet discussion, struck a nerve somewhere in Shumi Saw him angry for first time :) " He was like, I'll never wear these crappy /unsafe helmets. And I'm not even going to explain myself. (isn't it self Explanatory) Then probably he realized that he's on youtube and gave his opinion "

I think yamaha ray zr is big seat is it right? In ice scooters

Fantastic conversation, as always. A recommendation to your editor (coming from a producer of TV shows): The graphics and text need a longer stay. I look at averaging 8-10 seconds for each text piece to accommodate our slowest readers. In this show, graphics which paraphrase what a host is taking are a complete distraction as they go at talk-speed, not allowing for sufficient visual registration. Same with showcases of screens/screenshots. Ex: 28:06 - the footnotes are mostly lost as the graphic plate disappears when the anchor finishes talking. (Not to mention the lack of contrast) Now the eye tends to scan the image first, register a first impression, and rescan to impress upon the idea you are trying to convey - your image stays are not adequate enough for this process - and thus - lots of graphics here are not as impactful as they could be. Small change, but try to aim for the folks who are not speed readers, or whose reactions times don't necessarily compete with a Verstappen. :). This apart, well done, you've broken the clutter of what auto-review shows were with your format, and you have much to be proud of.

I feel you guys should do a comparison between Rizta and Chetak as well...

I felt the same as Kartikya did about the 450 after riding it for 3 hours. It was fun but felt really tiny to me personally (5'11 85kgs). Rizta feels alot more like the kinda scooter i would go for 👌

Nice content 👍🏽 …… are you planning an episode on altroz racer …..

Last Saturday, Ather had a Rizta launch event and an Ather owners meetup in Ahmedabad. I got to check out the software of the Rizta, and it seems that Ather has completely refined their software from what Shumi experienced from while test riding. I did not face any issues or glitches while operating the dashboard screen. Another thing I noticed is that the build quality and fit and finish of Ather Rizta is far superior to the Ola S1 Pro, which my friend has. However, the plastics feel a little bit cheap compared to my 450X.

booked one . not test ride yet , is it faster than access 125 in zip mode? by the way great review !!

I have a qstn i do use my helmet but my head starts sweating.. and it cause hair fall I don't know its true or not what do you use to stop it

I am probably late to the party, I love what you both r doing in the Auto-journalist space of both bikes & cars on this channel (opinion based on XUV 3XO & Ather Rizta videos). I particularly like the balance you folks try to strike between both the manufacturer as well as buyers POV, ‘cause the manufacturer always cannot offer everything that the customer asks for inspite of their best intentions to the customer. Wish you folks the best! 🎉🙏🏽😇

I am really interested in buying the base rizta s in july, i need to know which is better the tvs iqube or this

A family product should be built with quality, safety, completeness (should do too many things too well), and reliable. 02:17 I dont understand why Ather Rizta or a family scooter market for that matter is considered an average or medicre product? 02:40 Average product????!!! #Ather I hope Ather would respond clarifying this. Appreciate the detailed review and perspective provided in this video.

Ather is innovative, eager to check out the new bike.

In bengaluru itself i have ridden some ofthe steepest slopes than any hills in karnataka. Let's say somewhere between 45 and 55 degrees incline.

I had a test ride, but as the showroom didn't have number plates I had to ride it in a gully with a lot of road construction (so not sure if bad handling was due to that). The UI I feel was very horrible because I couldn't change the mode easily or even activate the slip assist or even change the ride modes (2-5 min lag in mode change). I felt that it was not good enough for crowded streets. But I will give it another go soon

For someone who is used to riding Jupiter 125, will rizta feel slow?

ATHER Rizta is again a well-thought-out product which has the potential to position Ather at the second spot in the sales graph very soon.

Was waiting for this for a long time

Hey Shumi Hat's off! Seriously. You rightly said, people who speak about DOT don't know Shit about safety. And thanks for the detailed Review 👍

Guys please drop the full version of the intro . It's soo addictive

Great discussion as always. It would be great if the sound treble can be reduced a bit for the videos coming up. This might be subjective but I felt it's a little off in this video.

I want to consider this scooter but cannot get hang of its 15k subscription thing to use more feature. It’s like renting out fuel tank of ICE scooter separately.

I have a 5yr old ECE 22.05 & DoT certified helmet not ISI certified. It's it safe to use it or any expiry dates for helmets? I never CRASHED on this. Shumi & &Kartik can you please make a podcast on helmets & riding gear specific please.

At about 31:00 minutes the talk about the WhatsApp on the screen or tvs doing scores on the screen, I see the usage being when people go to hang out with a group of friends in public to sit around on each other’s bikes and have conversation while seated on the side of the road

48:35 Shumi DOT is the best helmet safety standard..😂🤣

Team, What about handling, is it as slick as a 450x?

Shumi's has eye for details, keep it up. Detachable battery (variant) should be available, otherwise it restricts the usability.

Eagerly waiting for your full test and review of this scooter.

How does the rizta compare to the river indie purely from a ride and suspension perspective

Was expecting you guys to talk about the pricing a little more, especially the Pro packs. Ather should have offered Pro pack (or at least the battery protect plan) upon pre-booking. Ola does price cuts to attract customers (though the quality isn't good), but Ather should also do similar by offering some extras (not the price cuts).

Am from bangalore, Ather Rizta or river indie? Which one to buy?

That helmet idea is jaw dropping...🤗

Ather is a great company with superb products!! I will run to buy their shares if they were to come out with an IPO....thanks motorinc for a super review!

Can you guys make a episode on Helmets and what certification to look for when buying one?

Waiting for this

What do you guys think about Hero Vida. I bought one a month ago and it's fairly decent. The connectivity features and touch screen are basically useless. But, since I can charge the battery at my apartment, the experience is extremely convenient. The pick-up is good. I never had to worry about overtaking. The scooter itself is smooth and silent. The braking is good but regen not so much. So far, it's been a convenient Point A to B machine.

just curious, what went wrong with the s1 pro gen 2 during your testing process?? was it something software related or the build quality or the poor heat management? i really wants to know how bad that scooter really is..

My friend has an ola s1 pro. And he laughs at Ather saying that my ola is so silent and Ather makes zzzzz sound. Why cant Ather make silent EVs??

Hey I'm looking to get the Ather 450 Apex edition what are your thoughts on that

Although I havn't testridden a Rizta, but being a 450plus owner, let me clarify something about Smart Eco. It's not prioritized for performance in the 450s, it's always prioritized to return the exact true range that it displays. What happens is if you ride it efficiently(which I do most of the time unless my social anxiety kicks in when an overcurious/or overcompetitive rider starts tailgating me) and the actual range returned is more than the true range, then it unlocks more performance, sometimes more so than even the ride mode..On the contrary, exact thing as shumi's Rizta in the Nandihills happens to my 450, when I take it to the actual mountains and not those joke of hills as I am from Siliguri(I am joking, Bangalore is my favorite city in India because of its awesome varied natural landscapes around it, although Nandihills is the most overrated one for sure). 450 too aggressively cuts off performance as the efficiency gets less and less and the actual expected range falls below the true range displayed. This is the reason why I use Smart eco 95% of the time when I am in the plains while it's completely unusable in the hills and i have to switch to the Ride mode.

What model is the most value for cash to battery ratio

I'm surprised that the ride didn't happen at Mecco Kartopia!🙃 Shumi's favorite place in Bengaluru!🤪😂😂

How are drum brakes still cheaper to produce with how much time passed since disc brakes

oh that helmet fits in that back seat looks convenient and the rest ather proved itself far before no worries !! karthikeya bro your summary is 9/10 thank you so much

Hi guys , would really appreciate a video on helmet certifications to help us understand them better.

The ambiguity of the battery pack pricing is not an ather only problem I think, Most electric 2w brands that I have dealt with seem to be super ambiguous on this and the answer sometimes seem to vary from dealer to dealer as well, which also makes the info that comes out of the dealer's mouth also void. From what I've come across, 15-18k per kwh of the pack is what you can expect to be shelling out as of today's prices. Things might change down the line but this is what it seems to be today

Just saw chetak's first impressions and as Shumi Sir predicted Bajaj did launch a cheaper model . The May month had all the top ev manufacturers launch mass market models.. I just wanted to suggest doing atleast a view on chetak's new base model. My father isplanning to buy a scooter so just wanted to know. Also should i just stick to ICE scooters ( daily running -15km)

Hey a slightly offtopic question, I bought a mid tier tata Tiago it didn't come with the touch screen android auto thing. I have been looking to add one to my car now. The only once I could find were those chinese once with crappy UI and heard they get slow after sometime. Can you please recommend some good once

Took test ride on Wednesday, still has lot of electronic glitches with S/W. Modes switching was glitchy, screen took forever to show if mode change was registered, one time the screen & S/W just passed out when I put on right indicator.