Attack on Skynet base \ T800 Arrival | Terminator Genisys 

Ryan Sewell wouldve been the perfect full circle. They over thought it so hard.

Ryan Bradshaw plus they were tryin to reboot it for a new generation like they do with everything nowadays instead of coming up with something original. Now with Dark Fart being worse than this, hopefully they'll stop.

†HΣ DΣV¡LS ЯΣJΣC† one can only hope man. I think money will be the determining factor and since it bombed they’ll stop....for now. It gets so tiresome when you see something so awesome decay so rapidly

I agree with you on that. I feel that after Terminator 2, James Cameron should have made one or two more movies just dedicated to the original future war. Showing us how John Conner saved people from the prision camps, taking command of the resistance forces against the machines, & ultimately showing us how he lead them to victory. Then the part where skynet used the time machine, he could show us that he sent the two protectors back in time on the same time line, Kyle Reese & the T-800. Then the movie would end showing how the future was slowing rebuilding itself. Terminator Resistance did a great job on that.

The salvation trilogy was gonna end with Kyle reese going back in time! But instead we got genisys!

Right? The Resistance didn't count on that ONE terminator to be a go-getter employee. Lol

"Hey wait a seco..." *starts intensive fire on the truck*

Already smarter than a generic imperial stormtrooper.

Enter metal gear solid *!*

@@scarface1138 But it still bonks it's head trying to walk through a doorway.

they were not T800....

@@ARUNSINGH-td7eh yes they are

@@ARUNSINGH-td7eh Those were T-800 models. They just lacked the Arnold skin cover.

Somebody needs to explain to me why these killer robot machines are DRIVING TRUCKS....

@@doriandundee9906 They had automated motorcycles in Salvation. It’s easier to maintain.

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You know honestly John being a terminator isn’t a bad concept but it was just executed so poorly

3rd rate actors this john doesn't have the gravitas of the T2 adult john same for reese

Yeah 👍,John Connor turn into bad actor after opening scene make million fun around the globe dispointed, they not destroy John Connor and Skynet ,but they own entire francise itself after make John and Skynet work together after few decade try to kill each other.lmao.

@@Ivan24524 We need a great Russia

That just sounds like Salvation with this scene at the end

Now that's creative.

@@bagelbramble7335 Salvation takes place like 15 years before this scene though

@Revan It's a game not a movie. The movie is just more amplified AND better with the lore than a video game would be.

I agree

"What you see is what you get, buddy."

@@AurelionSass DA OOOZY NEIN MEELEEMEETU!!

meh, styropyro has had them for years lol

Just what you see pal.

@@brucestrauss you know your guns pal, each of these is great for home defense.

Here's a making of featurette on the CGI: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XEMPJyh29Rc.html

There was a whole refrigeration unit with dozens of Arnold clones hanging up in the Time Machine building. I'm guessing they just used one of those.

@@matts1166 I think he means three. Where he says "I killed you." "The resistance REPROGRAMMED ME" That same unit being the one who kills him in the future is used to protect him in the past.

You should play terminator resistance, that’s actually an objective in the game! I’m not spoiling how it happens!

Terminator Redemption

+Kenjiro It occurred after Kyle Reese was sent back. This is mainly why Kyle Reese didn't know about the T-1000 or T-800/Uncle Bob and thought that he and the Terminator were the only time travels. The T-1000 also traveled back to 1994 after Reese was sent back. John told Reese that Skynet may attempt to send another one to kill him as a child which is how Sarah Connor knew about a second Terminator (Didn't know about the T-1000. But she knew that John was in danger).

Yup

And that shit was copy pasted from the 1st

Agree but I'm getting annoyed by the time traveling movies an instead concentrate on the future war. Yes we did get somewhat of a movie with Terminator Salvation despite its flaws [WOW DID IT HAVE PLOT HOLES AN FLAWS] it was still an enjoyable film.

Raymond St Paul Right

@@ghostknight2562 Calm tf down kid

Antonio 123 exactly! The first 10 minutes are very fucking awesome compared to the rest of the movie. This first 10 minutes is one of the best scenes in the franchise.

@@Locadel2003 The battle still could've been more epic though.

Like T3

This wasn't solid. It lacked the horror & desperation of the human soldiers. Kyle Reese is meant to be a battle-scarred, dirty & hungry soldier. In this, he's a muscled up jock douchebag who looks like he's spent the future at the gym.

@@paradigm_sh1ft532 That's why I said that the battle could've been more epic in a way that it needed more carnage, blood, guts and realism as well. It was still a good scene unlike the rest of the movie.

That’s not a T100 it’s a HK Spider

It’s a NH-101 “Sycophant”

Sometimes you just use what you have. There were plenty of truck stockpiles laying around. Better to make a t-800 that can occasionally to chauffer duties than make an entire new assembly line for an AI truck.

Skynet killed Elon Musk at the beginning of the war.

@@matts1166 Skynet could've simply repurpose those trucks it acquired into autonomous vehicles If you lose the Terminator driving it, you lose the vehicle, whatever it was transporting and risk having it highjacked and turned into a suicide bomb all at once That's just not efficient in any way imo

@@magicalmagicmagician5223 Well, yeah, but that autonomous truck would require specific parts, and would only be good for driving. Perhaps Skynet crunched the numbers and figured out that having the once-per-week truck delivery would be better served by having a spare T-800 taken off the guard lines for a couple hours. A T-800 is overkill to be a driver, but that autonomous truck can't park itself and pick up a plasma rifle.

@@matts1166 sentry guns? Case in point a C-RAM turret

Sadly, I was still distracted by the sheer stupidity of the machines using trucks with steering wheels instead of self-driving ones to be impressed

@@wjzav1971 Skynet uses self driven vehicles. Even the Guard Terminators were confused to see a Human Vehicle driven by a Terminator.

@@srikrishna2561 yep true and it was all skynet's plan from the begining

@@srikrishna2561 no they weren't. It was that he was deactivated that tipped them off.

@@wjzav1971 I’m pretty sure that’s why they were suspicious of the termimator driving a car in the first place

Wars???

Well said.

Salvation?

@@bigblueassbaby9074 I really liked Salvation, but I meant THIS type of war.

Salvation apparently doesn't exist

**Auditory Satisfaction**

oh yes. give it to me

Nah the 80s scenes were good. It goes to shit when they travel to 2017 and the actual genisys is introduced

A real shame for salvations reviews

@@whatever3132 The people keeping this series up are probably the animators, and the very few RP communities in video games. Those two keep it alive, I think.

@@whatever3132 Salvation wasn’t terrible the story wasn’t the best but it’s the final actually good one

Be good to see the "original war" before skynet sent 2 terminators back in time. The timeline is otherwise so convoluted at this point.

Salvation was going to do that but everyone hated it

@Distinguishable Pie I really like that idea, would make for a great twist.

@ninjast4r lol sure

They would have to fight the T-1000000

T-800 Model 420 that’s non-cannon from universal’

No story? No story? Wtf are ypu talking about. The story itself setup the original trilogy...

no necessarily, it depends on which time travel theory you put in use 🤔 I like to think of this as a multi-verse time travel, where everytime you go back in time, you end up in parallel universe actually. because in this one here, Skynet is down, and no T-1000 nor T-X can be developed and send back in time. hence in this one, no Terminator 2 nor Terminator 3 can exist. so I believe these movies are just spanning one after another. Terminator 1 happens, Skynet learns about the failure in THAT timeline's future and prepares a program to initiate T-1000 as a safe mechanism. then, in another timeline, both T-800 and T-1000 fail, Skynet learns of this again in that timeline's future and prepares both AND T-X as another fail-safe - and so on and so on.

@@ErenisRanitos So either way, in this universe, Skynet lost.

@@adamg5780 I believe Skynet is destined to lose in every Universe. since that's what always happens.

skynet never loses this war is never ending.

@Kristoff Salas it actually does end. After the third movie they have a tie in comic that has the end of the main timeline skynet and humans come to an understanding and both sides just want to survive so they agree not to kill each other and rebuild. They also figure out how to transfer human brains into terminator bodies so people dont get old anymore

so an automaton without an operator-controlled OFF switch is not a machine by definition? does that mean that once the break hydraulics are fucked and ignition circuits are short fry locked - a Toyota automobile [d]evolves from a machine state into a projectile on wheels state?

@@cyberbiosecurity Just quoting Terminator Salvation 🤣 Easy pal

@@TDKiller415 aighty

@@TDKiller415 i'm just learning natural language pal

And it should be a sequel, not a reboot!

That would have been a better film A prequel to the original T1

Wasn't that just salvation?

@@tabbywarrior yup it was supposed to be Trilogy but salvation under performed

@@video409 Genisys was also supposed to be the start of another trilogy, but underperformed and got canned as well. Then we got the even crappier Dark Fate... funny how we got 3 movies that all underperformed when it could have been a decent trilogy at least.

same. salvation was a prequel to the original movie. i think that flew over peoples head tbh. everyone wanted Laser Weapons but they were not built at that point in time i bet they had plans for a sequel to salvation aswell. (had being a key word there)

-Dat Mental Gamer- Salvation was supposed to be the start of a trilogy set in the future, then when that was cancelled, Genysis was supposed to be the start of a new trilogy, then when that got cancelled, Dark Fate was supposed to be the start of a new trilogy, then when..........

@@steveh4290 at least one good thing came from all this Terminator Resistance. (imo)

-Dat Mental Gamer- - Woah, I didn't even know about that, I've just had a look at it, looks good.

@@steveh4290 i've been playing it alot recently. its awesome

Omg that’s genius

they shoulda ended it with him saving the earth from skynet

Sadly they don't care what the fans want, milking for money is what matters to the corpos and cashing in on nostalgia.

@YoEditmusicGuy Cutout Jason Clarke is the most generic b-rated actor you could find to play this role.

Terminator Salvation was supposed to start off a New Trilogy that was more a out the actual war. But because of bad reviews it got 2 reboots instead :/

Yeah, "the same" right? 0:57 - 1:02

@@johnniecinco6698 I dont get your comment

Dean Solaja that wasn’t in the previous movies

Chris P it’s actually 3 times terminator salvation did something different than 1 terminator and 1 guardian sent through time for their targets and this is the 5th movie

This scene is what fans wanted you're an idiot stfu

YES! If this whole movie was just the future war like Terminator Resistance was then it would have been great. The movie ends with both Terminators getting sent back in time and the resistance sending back Kyle Reese and a reprogrammed Terminator. That would make T1, T2, and this Future War Film a perpetual looped trilogy.

@@callsignmaverick3979 amazing how a few comments can come up with better ideas than a whole writing crew. they tried to be so clever in Genisys that they completely ruined the film.

Well, they went there with Salvation, didnt work out.

@@Tessellastudio we were thinking Terminator Resistance! It’s really good, authentic to the first two films. I’m on my 5th play through, I have more hours in it then I do in Halo multiplayer and single player combined.

@@Tessellastudio i didn't think salvation was too bad, but it could have been better

Resistance is amazing. A little slow to get going but still fantastic. I really hope the developers do more with the franchise. Main stream reviews gave it crap scores but the game made alot of money and actual gamers enjoyed it. Enough to get a free DLC, a free ps5 next gen update, and its getting another dlc this summer.

The game had its flaws but it was clear that the developers were real fans of the first and second Terminator movies (which are the only ones for me). The details they put in the game are incredible

Is actually Terminator 3. Terminator Resistance ignores all the crap from T3, 4 and 5 and is a direct sequel of T1 and T2, and a brilliant one at that

The one interesting thing it had going for it and they blew it. Dumb asses.

@@TrAp1O2 you and me both bro. I thought i was the only one 👊

@@N-e-o1 i do the same.

I don't watch trailers. Waste of time

Kabal true. And why make him a terminator in the first place

The t-1000 did good

They could’ve at least cast a more convincing Sarah. I like Emilia Clarke, but she’s just not a Sarah Connor.

@@JoshPadgett to me John Connor looks like a office clerk here

MP4A1 He looks like a stockbroker after doing a bit of blow to me

I like that actor that played john but he is miscast in my opinion.

It just has one flaw. Destroying Skynet's mainframe wouldn't be the end of the war. If a Terminator can function after being sent through time, then every Terminator still functioning would continue trying to exterminate all humans. That's why they would have to rig the time machine to blow after sending the protectors back in time, because the remnants of Skynet's army would be closing in on recapturing the facility and they'd have to prevent the Machines from using it again.

​@@Eluzian86Terminators sent back in time are made to be sentient, so they do not need SKYNET to exist for them to operate.

This one is more faithful to T1 and T2.

@@misaeltoral508 true a lot but the problems would be miscasting maybr they could of make emilia clarke look like lindas Sarah like her being more skinnier with some muscles like in T2 and for Jai Courtney where his face needs to have alittle facial hair and his acting alot like T1 Kyle and his hair and him looking less buff and more thinner like in T1. Buy I think there was a chance for them to look a lot like Sarah and Kyle abd to sound and act like them

Skynet need to have "cores" or "mainframes" to house, receive and transmit data between factories, but it's true that the moment one is destroyed the units that rely on it should be able to function autonomously albeit with a lot less efficiency. A few years after Judgement Day, it was able to make automated factories to send satellite to be safe in orbit but Skynet have to exist physically that's its only problem.

Skynet should have hundreds of backups

Thw skynet core being destroyed was faked by skynet

@Darnell Onyewu Thompson who says it was 102?

Bruh I'm dying 😂

T800 model 101: "Jeffrey epstein" Jeffrey epstein: "yes" T800 model: proceeds to rip open the door and strangles epstein to death

@Darnell Onyewu Thompson And it is Franco Columbu..

Nope

More on humanity's war against the machine salvation kinda did that

Phase plasma rifles in the 40 watt range or something like that

@@shahabhassan6477 hey just what you see pal

Phakes the opening of this was pretty on point

ya out of all the newer terminators i only liked salvation and christian bale was a good john connor

This, is the changing of terminator timeline. Which sucked.

Spoiler alert There's actually a comic book that delved into that route, apparently the Terminator that was played by Sam Worthington wasn't the only hybrid that Skynet built, it made another out of a serial killer that went rogue and tried to take over its mainframe, he actually was a big enough threat that Skynet actually contacted the human resistance thru Sam's character (I wanna say his name was Marcus, can't recall sadly), as "Marcus" wasn't actually dead, he was a hybrid Terminator, so his heart was able to regrow itself after some time, Skynet reactivated him and sent him to speak with John, the result was a peace agreement between humanity and Skynet to take down the rogue hybrid, I'm not sure how long it lasted for, but in the end of the comic, they did defeat him and things still ended with peace between the two, as for the future, it's up to us lol

@@stephenbutler4399 *rouge

Westinghouse Phased Plasma Rifle (in the 40-watt range)

because anybody who has seen Terminator 1 knows how that story begins and ends - the only way to make it interesting would be to introduce twists or new characters, which is what Salvation tried to do.

Salvation was supposed to be the beginning of 3 movies but it received such negative criticism that they scrapped it and went back to the garbage we got

Dark fate isn’t T6 it’s the real T3

T5>T4>T1 imo

@@axelnilsson5124 No, it's not, it never will, Terminator ended in T2 with the Director's cut ending

@@joaquincobas2223 too bad it’s not the canon one

@@axelnilsson5124 It is the canon one

Well, these people are better equipped with weapons that could destroy a terminator instead of a shitty shotgun like Reese had also they're way more familiar with the terminator's tactics and weaknesses.

There is no way mass production machines would lose to a few humans who survived the judgment day. If I were to direct the movies, the humans would have traveled in time to stop Skynet from existing instead.

Terminators (at least the humanoid ones and not the massive tank-like walkers) are actually very fragile in the face of plasma weapons.

João Moreira oh u mean like T2?

Its not hard if you have phased plasma rifles in the 40watt range!

I never read them but apparently there where books or comics that covered the post skynet world and this is exactly what happened. Splinter groups broke off from the resistance and claimed any resources near them, warlords and goverments in hiding resurfaced and took the opertunity to basically conquer and swaths of land they could. Humanity fell right back into killing eachother for food, water, and left over skynet tech.

Stfu

We rararrsrs up at dis moment

@@generalgrevious815 not surprising

On one hand I'd believe something like this would finally bring everyone on the planet together for the sake of one common goal (retaking the world from oppressive genocidal automations) but tbh I'd expect nothing short of everyone forming tribes, gangs, etc and then pillaging & ambushing one another while the robots sit back and watch in awe.

Asking ‘who else?’ In desperation for likes and comments. Wanker

Or a better end, the resistance loses the war.

2years and still nothing, james cameron should have come back to just film the war and use this as the end scene to go full circle.

​@@Paka1918shut UP edgy

Would be cool.

Nah. We don’t need to see how Reese or the T-800 went back in time. The Terminator is awesome the way it is.

The capture of the time machine was in one of the earlier drafts for the second Terminator movie, but they cut it down due to budget constraints.

Ed Edison that would have been a great deleted scene.

@Ed Edison/MikeLive1285 It's in the novelisation for the film. I read the opening chapters of the book as a kid before watching T2, and was surprised not to see those scenes in the movie.

Bit dramatic tbh

The while speech was awesome

@@SCARRIOR not at all

@@SCARRIOR duh it's dramatic it's movie and people are going to storm the enemy base that's run by Terminators and even bigger mechs and they have a high chance of dying

I found the speech cringy to be honest. Maybe it was the writing or the delivery. I'd rather think the latter because, oh boy, Jason Clarke is totally miscast as John Connor.

@60 Billion Double Dollar Man yeah if your fan of t1-2 the game dawn of fate, and the new game terminator resistance, is a better sequel/prequel to the original story.

This is fucking amazing

LMAO

It... was covered in T1 that skynet built the time displacement equipment because it was losing the war. Humans only used it because skynet sent back the T-800, otherwise they would have no use for it. They already won.

It'd be bitterly Ironic if it took us inventing a real life sky net to actually obtain time travel.

@@heresjohnny602 machines don't waste computational capacity on emotions

@@MrSCOTTtheSCOT Well as evidenced by some machines in the movie wasting computational capacity on emotions or at least mimicking them was key to their success in outwitting and nearly extinguishing the human race.

@@generalgrevious815 Yeah, Reese literally says "Their defense grid was smashed...we'd won. Killing John then wouldn't have mattered." so this is just showing that exact sentiment.

Alright nerd...

@@franciscomadrid5789 unnecessary dickness

Yeah I noticed that. Gotta love the classic Star Wars sounds

Hahaha 😂

Up to the T1 intro it was good.

Completely agree.

@@theterminator8707 Hey, you can't do that

Yeah true

Yeah, dead terminator driving a fucking car into skynet base and then blowing up like ten other terminators because they are retarded is so cool. I also loved terrible CGI and the fact that our heroes are invulnerable because it's not a war movie, it's a fantasy for girls. Great battle for sure.

I'd rather see the machines kicking ass with superior technology and the Resistance having to retreat

Алексей Сафронов shut up weeb go play your mobile games

I liked Salvation because it would of been a good way to start the prequel trilogy.

@@MyoclonicJerkCough That's what they were doing during most of the war

Right. And they must go for revenge.

If it had Michael Biehn as Kyle and literally anyone else as John it would have been perfect.

Not even almost. The effects are laughable. John Connor's speech was pathetic. The concept of Skynet having its Terminators drive cars instead of making self-driving vehicles is just ridiculous. And there was no sense of threat or grittiness in this scene. This is how a teenager would imagine the battle.

@@wjzav1971 Those Vehicles with Terminator Drivers confused the Guard- Terminators too. That's why the scanning took place. Skynet already has Moto-Terminators, HK Drones etc,.

@@wjzav1971 John's speech was decent. Skynet does have self driving vehicles. But sometimes, one also needs to load and unload things and hence needs drivers. It will also be more efficient to separate intelligence from the truck as making intelligent robots are much more time consuming

@@wjzav1971 If I were a screen writter, I would have made a Terminator-3. It would have been about the Future War prequel to T-1. It would have been dark, gloomy and scary to give watchers PTSD. And the bunker Terminator scene would have been included. With this one single T-800 wiping out the entire bunker, full of soldiers, who weren't able to stop it, it shooting surgically precisely, being able to perfectly use obstacles to avoid being destroyed and Reese, managing to crawl away. And also getting into the control center, imitating a bunker leader's voice, making more units to fall into a trap. I would have shown rotten toothed, riddled with diseases humans, dressed in rags, eating rats, living misery (no cool fashionable haircuts, no sexy make up, no piercing, no fancy tattoos, no smartphones, because the War started in 1997) outnumbering machines heavily, but machines being infinitely better fighters. I would have shown how much lives it takes to obtain even one small victory. I would have shown human slaves, loading piles of bodies of killed resistance soldiers and putting them into Skynet incinerators to extract energy. There will be no waves of "skeleton-type" T-800 on the battlefield. Only inhuman looking, perfectly adapted for fighting, hunter-killers : different robo-tanks (with sensors-« eyes » not only in front but also on their backs), HK-drones, suicide-drones. The only purpose of designing and production of T-600,700,800 will be to be combat infiltrators. And nothing more. There will be no TX, no Rev-9, and other BS terminators. T-800 will be the newest. T-1000 will be the only one, very recently finalized, inactive prototype, activated only in the brink of a defeat of the Skynet as a last ditch effort to change the past. And all this Time-Machine being finished hastily, litterally hours before the defeat, having barely enough time to send two terminators before humans would have retaken it, sending Reese and previously captured one single unique T-800, kept for a very special occasion. Sending them almost in the midst of a fight, with the Time Machine being irrepairably damaged in the fight. I would have gone to the basics of Terminator (1984) I would have made Skynet appear an absolutely cold, emotionless, soulless, rationally thinking net of military computers, which somehow just bugged and it made them defend themselves instead of defending their creators, using their tech capabilities to learn and become even more efficient and smart. No Helena Bonham Carter evilishly screaming antopomorphical BS "Skynet". To boil it down, Skynet IS NOT a life-form. It is just an AI and nothing more.

This movie takes place in another timeline.

Rotten Tomatoes says it was good.

Dark fate rated r?

Trase Gorsuch rotten tomatoes also said last Jedi was the best Star Wars movie ever made

@@PhaseSkater I don't always agree with them.

Reese: (yelling) That's what he does!!! That's all he does!!! Me: Until the T-800 found a familly and runs a drapery buisness.

Standardisation propably. The same reason the Americans used perfectly functioning Sherman chassis as mine sweepers.

@@DimoB8 That's some bad explaining. Why the hell skynet will create a freaking TRUCK with controls for humans, with seats for humans, with gauges and steering wheel??? Isn't this completely stupid? They created god damn cyborgs with nuclear power cells, but for some reason they use humans trucks with drivers. OMFG. I very hope that terminator driver have an insurance and social security. Because his childrens probably just lost their dad is that horrible accident.

@@Chastity_Belt Idk dude, I'm just trying to find some logic. But it could be that Skynet couldn't be bothered to repurpose old vehicles and had terminators drive them, which in hindsight gives them some combat versatility.

@@DimoB8 There is no logic in that film. Because it's very bad. It was the worst Terminator movie before dark fate, and there was reasons for that. Even if we forget about T1 and T2, and will not compare T5 to them, it still very and very bad movie. Because it's just poorly made. In every detail. THEY BUILT A FU#IN TIME MACHINE IN A BASEMENT!!!! LIQUID TERMINATOR HAVE AN INTELLIGENCE OF 5 Y.O. CHILDREN IN THAT FILM THEY SOMEHOW TURNED JOHN CONNOR INTO SKYNET'S CYBORG, BUT HE IS ALSO TOO STUPID TO KILL HIS TARGETS, INSTEAD HE TRIES KILL THEM WITH HE'S BULLSHIT SPEAKING

I mean there are moto terminators in salvation

Instead they continue the timeline with crappy plot

The people should have been cheering but the director thought “let’s make this moment ominous”

I'm blown by the fact that I knew this just recently

100% true

@@Warm_Ice0 with graphics from 2008

@@ASSASSIN19923 Yes! Because all you need to make a good game is the graphics, right?

@@antoniofagarto2033 Thanks

@Monsieur Café Absolutely not ;)

I agree. I dont get even after gen and dark fate so many still dont see salvation was a good terminator flick!

Salvation was also quite bad

@@mozzarella7924 but at least it's better than both genisys and dark fate

agreed.

What's a pano

Norman Reedus looks more like a older Edward Furlong/John Connor.

Trouble is Edward Furlong looks a bit of a mess these days. Never been much of a fan of Reedus either to be honest. I thought Michael Edwards looked bad ass as Connor.

I realize this is probably not a popular opinion but Nick Stahl in T3 looked like Kyle Reese sort of. So I didn't have a huge problem with him being cast as JC. Like how in younger years he looked like a blend of his parents' features maybe slightly more towards mom Sarah. Later on looking more like his dad Kyle. What I would be most interested in is how, if each time travel is an incursion into another offshoot timeline and a whole separate instance, where it all began where John was the patton and Kyle wasn't his father originally. The terminator saga cannot be a closed loop time travel, as-is with just t1 and t2, it's a bootstrap paradox.

Michael Edwards is the face of future John Connor that everyone knows, but too bad that he is too old now to play the part. I still think that Edward Furlong with the right rehab and diet could still play John Connor but i guess this will never happen.

Not agree. Jason Clarke good for this role

Who said this phrase and for what?

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p You mean the activate model 101 ? Thats from the future war part in T: Genisys.

@@CliffuckingBooth I know, but why Skynet says it to himself?

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p So that people watching the movie knows what is going on ;)

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Better tell me why John Connor has to be on the frontline, fighting like a regular grunt and yell "Go! Go!" to helicopters flying above both of his shoulders? This whole film is CRINGE. To me the only movie which made sense was Terminator (1984). T-2 was a great sequel, but just because people craved for a sequel. From a story line POV it was needless.

It's like that one soldier in real life in either World War 1 or 2 who was shot and killed literal (maybe) minutes before the end of the war cease-fire went into effect. It's like, well *someone* is going to have to be that last soldier killed, but to be that soldier so close to the end? That's some really horrid timing.

@@DeltaKnight The only thing worse in this context would be surviving the final battle and then getting landed on by an out of control H-K lol

I agree with you. This is what a lot of the older fans wanted to see. But bro you got to stop using "should of" it's should *HAVE* 😅

They honestly should have just not make any sequels after T-2. Live it alone. Even T-2 was needless from a storyline perspective. But granted, it was so gorgeously made, actors played so great, there was depth, we can accept it as a sequel. If they REALLY wanted to explore, they could have made a prequel about the future war. The Terminator-3. But it should have been FAR BETTER made than what we had in Salvation.

Terminator MVP

@@technicalthug Nowadays terminator movies feel like nowadays music. It must be loud, over the top, and fast-paced. Like if it was made for early teenagers full of hormones.

And in this movie the second best part for me is t800 didn't die at the end instead got a upgrade

Given that they cancelled the sequels it's not likely to happen

There’s a really good game on steam that’s exactly that!

Jakub Wierzbicki Absolutely correct.

So true T1 and T2 seemed much scarier futures

@@JM-zz3vs the Future War get delayed every movie so the Resistance get more and more advance and stronger, eg: in Dark Fate they even have weird futuristic troop air transport.

Obvious CGI argument over sets and effects

Jonas Mayo idk if it's just me but the music, especially in T2, has A LOT to do with it imo. I'd KILLLLLLL for a future wars like in T2 with all those sounds. Sadly doesn't seem like it'll happen. There's even a vid of the T1 cop station shootout but with the T1000 theme over it for bad Arnie and the eerie-ness just fits so perfectly. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r2pnjIR_M1Y.html