T-800 (Pops) vs T-3000 | Terminator Genisys 

Gigi Pretty Perfect analogy: both a bit old, some would say obsolete, but practically indestructible

Haha

Batman and t800 have the strongest plot armor

Completely off topic but i think Goku has the win against the T-800.

@@lordfencepanel8666 So you are comparing a universal destructive force that is unstoppable that can stand next to superman in power to a clunk of metal that is above human strength. I guess now lets compare hawkeye and dormamu

Hahaha see you in a few months when this comment gets hundreds or thousands of likes😂

Legendary comment hahahahah

@@LM-kb6yt c ya

@@frazixofficial842 yeah we'll see😃😂

@@LM-kb6yt it won’t get as much likes as the original comment from like 4 years ago

Because movies says it. In real, t-800 are easy to beat by those villains.

T-X actually did beat the T-850

@@metoo3342 and t-850 won in the end by shoving one of his hydrogen fuel cells in t-x 's mouth

Technically I won't count on T1000 truly beat T-800 in open zone. T-1000's biggest problem is durability. His metal is not solid enough to truly break T-800. In Judgement Day, T-1000 mostly used environmental advantages

@@BruhBot-jp8ev the T-850 is probably the most durable terminator ever made. Even then, it only beat the T-X due to the circumstance they were both in. A fight in an open filed would result in the T-850 being destroyed 8/10 times

from the second Terminator film there is also a beat like that!

Привет! Я тоже смотрел, когда маленький был. И сейчас тоже иногда.

A Terminator’s favorite move, even against humans. A fatal strike to the windpipe? Crushing their skull? Nah, just toss ‘em around a bit.

@@nemesis2591 I mean the first two terminator movies nailed that part

If it was sentinels(from x men days of future past) they should've butchered him. Ripped t800's head, arms, and legs from his body and cut his body into 10 pieces.

@@nemesis2591 yeah.... If it was the sentinels instead of t800, t1000, and t3000, the robots would've already destroyed all the humans😂😂

@@nemesis2591 That's what I'm saying...!! The sentinels would kill all life on earth as if they were plucking a flower

To be honest I came to the same conclusion, give skynet credit, the T-800 series I think was all around the best model, and always seems to come out on top even if it usually ends with self sacrifice

They don't make em like they used to lol

It's by far the most versatile and dangerous due to its ability to learn at an accelerated rate

You could argue that the T-800 series were built to last. Just a big, tough tank that was meant to walk through hails of gunfire and get shit done. Simple, brutal efficiency. But after the 800 series, Skynet started getting cute, started flexing. Everything is a new gimmick. Things that sound amazing, and can perform increasingly incredible feats. Their make up and chassis can do many, many things. But as with all machines, the more moving parts, the more likely something can break. They can perform many functions, but perhaps not all of them well. When something goes wrong, it leads to other failures, failures that threaten the "gimmick". Sure, the T-1000 could make a spike to jam through your skull...but the T-800 could do the same thing with its fist. The T-800 does one thing, does it very well, and moves on to do that thing again and again and again, until that thing is done, or it is destroyed. It's built to pound on, built to absorb damage and keep on trucking. Moreover, it's relatively simplistic design (in comparison) means that there is less shit to break. As its sturdy, rugged design was made to absorb punishment, it doesn't start experiencing failures if a piece gets damaged here and there. Loses an arm? Doesn't give a shit. Exposed to extreme high/low temperatures? Doesn't give a shit. You see this in older machines. Things built to just WORK. No frills, no gimmicks, just built to one thing, do it as best it can, and move on to doing it again. When something does break, it's usually easy to fix. With often only the (deliberate) shortage of parts making that impossible. Compare the pain in the fucking ass that is a hydraulic clutch to the old school version. Hose blew? Well, you're fucked. The T-800 was built when Skynet wasn't fucking around. But then it started getting too cute for its own good. Wanting to show off with bigger and better ideas. In fact...you could say...it started to develop a very human ego.

@@MaxxCoyote Amen

the terminator that make john a T 3000 is a T10000

Shitty plot armour I love concept of t3000 and t10000 hope they will continue these models somehow in next sequel

Hey there..! Sorry if I'm late but here it goes my opinion, I believe he's still human (brainwashed of course, but human after all), because of that he has an EGO. Is his EGO what makes him imperfect, it's what makes him take bad decisions and unnecesary risks. That's why he's toying with POPS, becouse he's an arrogant homo sapiens.

@@AgentK-im8ke T-5000 not 10,000

it was old as well

Elaborate

"Skynet, keep me alive and I'll tell you one secret that will make your terminators 1000% more effective." "Stop. Throwing. People."

Terminator could legit stop a humans heart in 1 punch. Hell they could sit on you and you’d be squished

To be fair, if that was a human thrown the way the T-3000 threw pops, the puny human would be dead.

@@gamingnate0062 "Why doesn't he just keep ripping off parts using the knife hand". It is honestly the best option against both humans and opposing terminators.

Actually I think it was more to do with foresight, because it seems to fit Terminator: Dark Fate even more.

Nah I think it was directed to the older films.

Why do they keep on making Terminator movies? Without James Cameron they're just bad, it was over when T3 flopped. But no they had to make Salvation, this and Dark Fate...

@@dogswifty7800 Dark Fate was made WITH Cameron, at this point anything further than T2 is pointless

@@neol3066 Cameron was used to sell Dark Fate because everyone cried about how bad Genisys was, so they made a nostalgia trip with Linda Hamilton and James Cameron with no relevance to Genisys story whatsoever.

T-1000, made out of liquid metal, destroyed by liquid metal? God, these writers are such lazy hacks, the franchise should have ended with The Terminator smh my head. (Come on, man, don't play stupid.)

Right? Like finally he gets an upgrade and THEN they decide to call it quits

I thought it was retarded

@@optimusprimus89 i mean who tf is he supposed to fight?

@@Nemenis Critic ratings.

@@optimusprimus89 Frankly Genisys made me want to see what would follow, Arnie with T-1000 abilities would have been awesome too

Underrated.

I mean Terminator resistance is the sequel to T2 for me

@@kriss3401 You're not alone. Terminator Resistance is the True T3(even though I don't mind the actual T3).

For you it is but for me it ended at salvation.

@@BaldinBlack shut up toxic kid spamming Underrated for nothing everywhere

On a scale 1-10 how bad is this crap?

@@fynkozari9271 5. the actors just did not fit the characters. like dany from game of thrones just isnt sara conner. jai courtney is a bad kyle reese. And oddly enough Arnold is a bad terminator now. It lacks that gritty atmosphere of the first two movies and subs it with out of place dad humor. however, the story is the strong suit. Arnold is sent back even earlier to prepare sara conner when she is a child. they then face a t1000 and a t 800 during the terminator 1 timeline. Time jump to the present where she finds that her son has turned into a terminator himself. A far more interesting story than Dark Fate which is nothing more than a soft reboot. oh this chick is john conner now, and sky net is no more, something called legion replaces it. Even though it has the exact same function as skynet and their robots are identical. bad

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@@radicallarry7044 He has to be....no one who would write that terribly bad could figure out how to turn on a computer, let alone operate one after that point. On the off chance he has help getting onto here like some wheelchair-bound invalid getting onto the roof of their house or, he somehow stumbled his way in here...Baker...don't you have homework to get to kid? Or are you just an old man who just never got past 2nd grade?

I like this movie, it was a lot of fun. To me it’s a what if film.

Some Noob Saibot shit right there

Thats not john connor for me, i can't take him as the badass savior of humanity he is supposed to be, the only good john connor besides the adult version in terminator 2 is Christian Bale

It looks cool, but does repeatedly punching a robot's nonexistent organs actually sound like ingenuity to you?

@@Hafer_ he cool just ripp off the head of pops

He's a fucking nanobot he could have just phased into Pops and fuck him from the inside out. And just swarm over to Sarah and that steroid addicted Kyle Reese and mince them into pieces. It's not like they can even do anything to stop him. Game Over

@@Hafer_ I know, I keep thinking about how fast he would win the fight just by being able to force way until the Arnold's "brain"

ASMR king :D

Sounds like my Desktop reading a CD

@@TheMacubuntu lol

Yeah

Hamd the sound effects when the t 300 uses his nano bots the sound effect is from transformers age of extinction, the more you know.

T-3000 and T-X always had the best endoskeleton designs.😊

agreed

I’m not gonna say the story is good. But credit where it’s due, it’s a fine machine.

@@MotorcycleCheetahstory is decent honestly jus confusing 🤷🏿‍♂️

@@MotorcycleCheetahstill a terminator movie I can rewatch every now and then due to action

I think cuz we perceive the future to be very advanced (for instance decades ago we thought we’d get flying cars by now) so tech nowadays is underwhelming. No one said robots had to be THAT cool and futuristic. We just assumed so

Lol, u r not thinking it the right way, the bad robot had many chances to kill arnold terminator but its just plot armour.....futuristic is better ofc....but nothing beats plot armour.....

@@RecappedMoviesUS nah. Arnie is just epic 😎

T1 had the t800 which were common infiltration units. T2 had the t1000 which was considered a unique terminator which John had never encountered before and understood that another machine may be the only change at defeating the novel t1000.

They should’ve made a full terminator movie where a T-800 goes up against another T-800. We seen that a little bit in this movie and we all know who was about to win that.

Because this timeline doesn't exist.

because the movie was very forgettable

Lml Yoo I’m dying shon

Suprisingly, he's still there despite that he was never actually created. Think about it, he never was made (he came from the future with Skynet), so how is he there now?

@@aeureus guessing he was able to grab hold of his existence by leaving before he was deleted. Its not like the events didn't happen, they were just deleted. Therefore he can't get wiped.

Guess it shows that it was becoming more human in its mission yo destroy humanity.

Yep

NANOMACHINES SON

And it isnt so mindless like the other models.

I still think the t-1000 has the advantage in durability. Unless you freeze it or melt it. The t1000 is all liquid you really cant mechanically break it.

​@@InunoTaishou07T-X can literally one shot it

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Not sure ripping his arm off was the goal here.

i don't think it failed, i think that was just to rip the skin and clothes off to show the metal arm underneath to make it more dramatic and intense

i think it was also holding back because it was thinking arrogantly like a human

I see the pattern of decline of Terminator movies.

​@@darthportus thank you, you're supposed to haha I always thought the last shot of the final terminator film should be Sarah Connor going to that park that gets nuked in her dream and just seeing the kids playing as the credits roll

And when terminator 7 comes out they are gonna appreciate dark fate.

I Do Monologues (Terminator 7 is released) Fans: Dark Fate wasn’t that bad...

@@Nemenis If they ever make a Terminator 7, they should send a Terminator to stop Carl from killing john in the first place. It might seem like a rehashed idea, but Terminator without John Connor is honestly terrible, although they should alter the plot so it isn't a recycled storyline that's just like T2's storyline, it could also flash forward to the future. But that's just my opinion.

Erm...probably because he was a machine programed that way in most iterations, doesn't excatly choose the option 🤦‍♂

Too bad Smith didn’t come back as Skynet. He was awesome.

What about Norman Reedus? Would he have done a good job?

@SZSZFilm so then T-Genysis might have been like a sequel to Salvation. but, Kyle Reese was found differently there in that movie.

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The Deadite yeah I like Jed bake too.

At least they actually used him though, *looks at Dark Fate*

Well the concept was cool and I really did like genysis because they basically threw nothing away and still allowed the potential for John Connor to still be born in the future this time without skynet though.

The idea of the the nanomech T-3000 by itself was a decent one. The idea of John Conner as the villain by itself was a decent one- how many victorious revolutionary leaders throughout history ended up corrupt tyrants as bad or worse that those they rose up against? The idea of John Conner being a Terminator by itself was a decent one- see the original ending of Salvation where John dies and Marcus Wright assumes his identity and face to continue the fight and keep mankind inspired. But somehow Genesys took all three ideas and messed them up by using them together.

@@andrewparsons2391 Wait. Didn't Marcus actually die by giving his heart to John ?

@@TheKenji2221 Yes, in the version of the movie that actually came out. However in an earlier script, John would be killed off near the end and Marcus would take his face and pretend to be him, meaning that the Resistance was being lead by a Terminator impersonating John. I don't think any of this was ever actually shot, they switched to a newer script before filming.

Definitely 😎

T-800 is more cooler

@Lucky thats not what i said, i said that the 1-800 is cooler

It was honestly not a bad idea for a terminator its just that it shouldn't have been john connor.

Underrated comment.

for a second there when his hair was flying it looked like young arnold

you should play the game "Life is Strange" sometime. Its literally all about that, and its fckn amazing (and yet very tragic at some points)

From Kyle's perspective that might not be a bad thing. If you come from a timeline that's hell, and can turn it into something better. If they prevent Skynet from coming online they save what? 5, 6 billion lives?

@@thahoule7924 I played that game lol🤭, agree with the tragic part.😯

Terminator Meets Lawnmower man 0:55 , and a lot of Dracula Untold Impaling here towards the end

Terminator Kidney Punches 2:55 old man

Magnetic field. Thats why the t3000 is so good. Thing can almost fly basically.

And I am Sarah Connor

And I am the Senate 😮

That was skynet

And I am iron man 👌🏻

And I am Optimus Prime!

@Atlas Gaming He is a T800/T1000 hybrid, only the parts he lost were replaced with liquid metal.

@@danny1884 So a fair bit of his body then. Cause if I remember correctly, when he gets thrown into the liquid metal stuff, he's only a head and torso, maybe the upper left arm too.

Still a better fate than being shot in the face as a boy XD

That would have been fun to see. Honestly I would have loved to see him try to integrate the T-1000 stuff into himself while they were developing it after what we saw with what the T1000 could do reviving old model terminators. It would have been fun to see them both shapeshift fight each other and see what crazy things they could do with it, especially after we saw the T1000 do things like turning it's arm into a spear and cutting it off to throw it at someone.

Wouldn’t he become a T-X terminator? Liquid metal case with a exoskeleton inside? like the woman Terminator in Terminator 3

too ez

Dramatic writing. People acting smartly only works in a universe where the badguys act smartly too. Otherwise it just comes off as pretentious.

Then take his fists with those guard thingys and beat John to a *nano-pulp*

Don`t think it did too much anyway

Its a movie what do u expect

It’s crazy smh make it stop

I see this as an absolute win 🤷‍♂️

Skynet is watching you, that's why.

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Same

@Johnfuse Ya no kidding. As soon as it got close you'd be dead almost instantly. I imagine it would be running at full speed a lot more as well rather walking slowly but menacingly down a hallway after you as you run away lol.

To be fair the T-3000 still thought like a human. He was high on his own power, being cocky is human nature when we get the upper hand.

Old crap. Not obsolete crap.

@Bee Zo nothing about that is woke though

Then why not write your version and produce it. Genius! 😁😁

I couldn’t bring myself to even finish the poor excuse of a movie. Did you finish it? If so please spoil the ending for me cuz I ain’t watching it again

@@TheUncivilizedNation Which one?

@@Scotttjt dark fate

@@TheUncivilizedNation Nope. Watched the first third or so, then decided I had better things to do with my time. Sorry.

@@Scotttjt that’s fair considering I did the exact same thing except I only watched until they killed off John Conner

Dosent he do that in comics?

@Hazries45 yeah.. the nano tech is the alien suit right?

@@tomasramirez2914 superior ironman or symbiote armor iron man to be specific.

@@ericjones3625 well also the extremis armor as well

He sorta did that in the comics

Considering he was at the time machine which according to the first movie was actually at Skynet HQ. the most advanced Terminator ever is at Skynet HQ with direct access to time travel. If that happens Skynet losses but John has to find a way to kill himself so Skynet can never return. He probably just use the plan they used against him in the actual movie and kill himself with the time machine

John's genetic code was re-written as a result of the nano - virus. When the conversion was completed, his memories, skills and experiences remained but his moral code became cold, calculating and twisted.

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He sounds like clone wars Anakin

Either that or they didn’t bring any

They did use magnet powered brass knuckles tho lol

God

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I also was always wondering why the T-3000 doesn't send Nanomachines into the T-800's processor to either hack or destroy it from the inside ... But then the fight would be over too fast to make an interesting action scene I guess ^^

@@onurpalpatine777 Becouse model 101 (Arnold skin) is enhancing the T-800 by 1000%.

@@JackFrostIsHere they did it properly when they did T-1000 vs T-800

@@JackFrostIsHere Those weren't CPUs that were destroyed, those were power sources. The CPU of a T-800 is located inside the skull, and there is only one.

TheNoob’s YT though this movies a guilty pleasure for me your words speak wisely

Terminator Meets Lawnmower man 0:55 , and a lot of Dracula Untold Impaling here towards the end

Terminator Kidney Punches 2:55 old man

Blanks don’t kick.

I guess Emilia sucks as an action hero.

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Spoiler : Emilia is a terminator actually.

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I wouldn't have said anything, I'd have fired and then shouted "Get off him, bastard!!"

@@TheShape--xt6pk shit!!!😂😆😃🤣

4:20 420 hmmm

>>T-3000: When would you ever learn? >>Kyle Reese: Learn this.

This was made before endgame the year this movie was released the avengers fought against another rogue AI that tried to destroy the world

I add third comment so all the 3’s

@@axelnilsson5124 But MCU Ultron is more of a joke when compared to Skynet. The only impressive thing was Ultron used Vibranium.

@@srikrishna2561 they’re about as good especially knowing what ultron would have done

It's the doctor

Yeah they probably thought the epic action scenes would mask the rest lol

Not really, the fights scenes throughout these movies got to the point of floaty movement, and throwing each other around instead of going for the kill. T1 & T2 felt like the fights had weight and grounded in realism.

@@Mr.Dark.Equinnox Well,if we're gonna talk about realism here...the T-800 does'nt even stand a chance against something that advance.! He could've finished him way sooner.We all came for the actions,that is what they gave us.Gotta understand movie logics here.

Meh. The sound design ruins it for me. Just because they're machines doesn't mean every punch should sound like a dubstep growl. A lot of movies do this nowadays. Reminds me of those stupid sound effect speech bubbles in comic books. ''Pow!'' ''Kaboom!'' ''Zap!''

@@exerpachuau5486 I’m not saying any T movie doesn’t come with plot armour, I even see it in T1 and 2 😂 I just wish the fights felt a little bit more real, or at least the sound effects and not like techno

Yes

And dark fate not follow this alternate time -_-

Well Arnold is not wrong He's always back

T2 and Dark Fate have Arnold due basically the same way

T2 Arnold: 👍

@@j.banana4258 T2 Arnold: I need a vacation.

Altough those terminators look like human beings, they are totally unable to cope with social interaction, a « classic » terminator couldn’t gain trust from skynets executives like John did.

coz he was programmed not to.

@@VCYT That's still doesn't add up, most advanced machines aren't programmed to do anything that Skynet doesn't tell them to do, they can still be a threat to Skynet because they're so advanced. It's common knowledge

@@gin.590 i think the main goal of the skynet is total domination for the skynet humans had flaws that can't be fixed if they can create something that erase those flaws that would be the T-3000 that model is basically a human-machine evolution, they simply choose john due to he was the leader of human race .yes this model had the capability to take over skynet however they already programmed it to the point where his or its beliefs,ideas of a better world etc. Would not make him turned against skynet. John was still there on that machine it's just that skynet already removed his humanity

The nanites got into John Connors brain and replaced it on a molecular level. He had no choice

@DIO Brando Stoycho exe "Time travel !"

3:34

@@pokerface4 they time traveled to 2017 not 2018 or 19

I think that’s also the case but who knows the rights were thrown all over the place so I don’t even think Cameron knows

Rev-9 isn't Skynet, it's some other AI shit. But I like the rev-9 concept. It's just too bad they made him useless and weak like 100% of the terminators they made. So slow and stupid, "hehe a human let's throw em!"

@@sacr3 no one said Rev-9 is skynet

@@axelnilsson5124 someone did, they deleted their comment. Probably because they were corrected.

@@sacr3 he literally almost killed Arnold, Sarah, grace, and the girl at the sane time at last fight

Thanos...

@@Chineseknives Not unlike I, Robot. "My Logic is undeniable." or 18 other movies about AI.

When he was fighting the T-X He wasn't a T-800 tho he was a T-850

@@melnielson4140 ok and the T-850 is a Terminator in the 800 series of Terminator is it not? The 800 series encompassing the T-800, T-850 and for fans of TSCC the T-888.

That's only because of fuckong plot armor