I feel number of charging stops might be irrelevant as that's not really the point of the challenge, with many cars you might be able to take off 2 or 3 charging stops while only losing 10 minutes in total, he's always just going for maximum speed.
That's something only somebody who doesn't understand the "1000 km challenge" would say. If you wanna be as fast as possible, you need to do many short charging stops for up to 40 - 60% (depending on the car's charging curve). If your goal is less charging stops and not time, then slow down and all the good EVs can complete it with 2 or less charging stops.
@@Evans_Managreed. Exact same mentality of the people who don't know about EVs and ask you when you take a road trip "how many times did you have to stop?" - now knowing that's not how it actually works.
@@swecreations it is something the community has been asking for a long time especially because we do not know how charging can be optimized in the context of a speed challenge. I would very much be interested if you could share your knowledge about charging time and battery management with all presented models.
The Audi is 27% less efficient in this test. That's a serious difference. It would be interesting to see how the two would compare on something like a rally driving stage. There you might see a benefit from the Audi's suspension and fat tyres
A typical burger stop gets my cheap ass MG4 from 15 to 80% so I can imagine this car barely lets you take a toilet brake before it is waiting for you, not the other way around. To think the engineers pulled this out of a by now pretty dated architechture is very impressive and makes me look forwards to the A4 even more.
Impressive time. Just a pity that it is thirsty but no wonder because of the fat tires and large energy pull from the battery (lots of kW power). Tesla efficiency is still better but I am not sure if I had the money for a luxury car I would go for Tesla. I think that while Tesla is unmatched in terms of value for money in the medium segment, it fires back that the S and X are produced in Fremont which is just rubbish quality compared to all other plants. Also, the comfort deficiencies in 3/Y are vastly outweighed by practicality factors , esp. efficiency and space) but in the luxury sector they become dominant, certainly above efficiency (who can pay 150.000€ or more for a car does not care about kWh prices) and space.
@@G15Movies see and I think nothing is better than Tesla because it does best what matters for you and has the best price value proposition dor my needs 😎
I never touched a cigarette lighter, but as a kid I had noticed our family car's tail pipe was coming loose, so one day after a family drive I hopped out and called the family over to point out that it was loose. Unfortunately, to emphasize how it could wiggle around, I grabbed it, burning the palm of my dominant hand. Ouch! Lesson learned!
14:30 - this challenge required 17 ELaunches (ELaunch Count increased from 49 to 66), probably counts every full (longer) throttle. Also BYD has internal counter "times off full power".
Bjorn, you probably would have been faster without ultra fast charging. In cold temperature it cranks up the 11kW heater into the battery to optimize charging. That costs A LOT of energy just to have 300kW instead of 150-200kW charging. Thats why the car has that high consumption bc of the fast charging. So with normal charging you charge a few minutes more but you get more range and need less charging stops. I know bc I own that car, I don't use the super fast charging feature any more, most of the time not worth it.
That does not make much sense what you say ... 11kw climate while charging with 320 makes over 300 kw.. so that is faster then charging for example with 180kw and using 2kw .. what do you mean by charging slow?
@@FlorianMickler You misunderstand. It heats Up the battery WHILE driving If you navigate to a ultra fast charger bc it Thinks you want maximum charging speed. This costs you 10+kWh of battery capacity and so on range plus a lot higher consumption.
On this run, I think Bjørn did it right. Say he was preheating for 2 hours, that would mean 20kWh or about 4 minutes of charging.. But if he went for the slower chargers, he'd replace around 45 minutes at 300kW with around 75 minutes at 180kW, so that would be about 30 minutes of charging. Roughly, it's going to be 26 minutes faster the way he did it.
Nice video as always! Just love the exterior design of this car👌 But at the profile pic of the car at 6:30, it looks like you have the air suspension on ”high”, correct? Should have a lower, more agressiv look
I’d like to see if there’s different self-driving abilities in the cars you drive, just to compare with the Tesla FSD everyone in the States showing on all videos. Of course the other manufacturers have different assist levels, but would be interesting to see and also hear your thoughts about the differences.
The beauty of the Audi comes with cw 0,24 while the boring looking MS has 0,21. I take it. The tests of the MS have been on 19“ rims which save ~90km WLTP range to the 21“ rims according to Tesla specs. So both in summer on 21“ will not make much of difference, and for sure not in the real world use.
I don’t Think so because the Comsumption Was a lot lowered by detour and roadclosing so without it would be higher and the time even worse (time is always corrected by Björn but not the advantage of lower consumption/ higher range bc of lower speed)!
@@johannesmuller8214 VW did it. Porsche and Audi have already modern platform with few (super)computers and Android Automotive in Macan EV/Q6 etron like Tesla has. VW is just a big mess where the same things are developed multiple times by different teams.
That little and graphically outdated center screen is rediclous for a 150.000 Euro car. The Interface is 1:1 out of an Q4 Etron…embarassing Therefore the design is outstanding
@@PsychedMedia But if you charge at home, that 272km extra would only cost €5, but on the road obviously it would cost more. In general day to day use the difference is negligible.
The UI is adapted to the average Audi buyer that's around 60 years old... even if you have the money before that age, you prefer to buy a golf and half of a house.
Bjorn, someone in my circle had the same stomach issues as you (24:20), and you've mentioned this before . For him, it turned out to be colon cancer, and he just got it treated in time. He's recovering now, but the point is, you should get yourself checked out immediately. You have a young family after all...
Can you do a vid or comparison table on real life trip section ranges? What do I mean ? In real life we start with 100% of course but most drivers would go down only to 15% because much lower than that all the warnings start up saying low charge, then you charge to 80% max because the charge rate tails off. uh? That means on the next section you only get 80-15 = 65 wha-aat that means a trip section only 2/3 of full range -shi-iit! And you’re on a long trip right so you’ll be doing next section 120 km/hr so your efficiency will be lower - that’s a bummer !! You probably have all the data would be interesting to hear your comparison video competition for longest trip section! Always be Creative what do you think?
But in real life you don't watch the charge but stop for the burger and family pee stop or whatever and by the time that's done the car is at 95% plus, so each leg is more like 80% of the battery.
Its a design element its calles integration. Some people in ingolstadt made some thoughts about it. In china every brand just puts in a big screen into the middle😂
It is impossible for an 800v car, with practically the same battery and approved consumption to make the 1000kms worse, something is not right in that test. Tesla S 140kw 10-80%, etron 2.0 240kw 10-80%. Only if we use 400v chargers and there is this trap. Therefore NO, a Model S is not faster than a J1 2.0-Taycan/etron gt if we use 800v network.
I just saw that Tesla's 1000kms were with a 19" tire, if etron had 21 even 22" that is a 25% penalty of consumption for the Audi, with 19" the Audi is probably more efficient than the Model S and in load is that there is no color, 140kw vs 240kw Audi 800v, so I repeat that the Tesla 400v will never be faster than the etron.
nice car, but a quarter million Euros when Taycans depreciate faster than Truth Social stock price? All high-end EV prices are stupid, for no good reason IMHO.
The plaid consumption on his table looks off. Probably using some inefficient snow tires or something, never seen it that high. The problem with Norwegian tests is that efficiency is much worse than in France or Switzerland where they also use winter tires. I personally try to get the most efficient always, but people don't pay attention to labels. Driving 135 km/h and doing 1000 km road trips, never seen it above 210 Wh/km. But then I'm very specific about rims (always the small ones) and tires, always the most efficient e-primacy etc. and tire pressures at least 3 bar. Last road trip switzerland to Netherland and back doing 5 over the limit I did 175 Wh/km. Maybe the road surfaces in Norway are just very resistant to rolling or something...
Vw needs to start doing some engineering themselves and not just buy ready made parts and assemble them. They are way behind in electric cars. How can a tiny sportscar just consume 15wh less than a 6 seater EL8.😂 And also be slower.
@@Lucas-wp2ph battery swap is a stupid technology that is destined for retirement. But it is fast when it works. Most chinese brands don't use battery swap, so your argument is moot. This is one of the worlds fastest charging cars, and it's also one of the ones that can travel a certain distance the fastest. Yet you are on about how horrible it is. If this is bad, and it's one of the best, i guess there must be many many more that are much worse.
@@youtubebob123 It is stupid to people who do not understand how it works or how the grid works. As long as evs will only be able to fast charge with a specially designed battery they will just be a small part of the car market. No one will dare to buy a used ev that is out of warranty. Here in Finland Mercedes wants 65000€ for a battery change for their ancient eqc.🤭
Hahahahha Lucas its every time the same with you chinese propaganda. None of the german brands sell evs in china because of patriotism. The id series the eq series are much mire efficient than the chines brands. Conpared the nio without battery swap it would loos really hard. Have you ever been into a chines oem? Or chinese suppliers? You know that one of the biggest chinese ev brands are been supplied by german tier 1's? Inverters electric motors alls from germany? Or from chinese suppliers? They put the cars the same way together but with a big difference. Someday you will find out it😊
