Audi RS6 Avant v Vauxhall VXR8 Supercharged | evo TRACK BATTLE 

Scrustle it’s not a Vauxhall that’s why

In Australia the Holden is just the family bus you take on holidays.

It’s Vauxhall by name only. Since 2006 its a new platform also shared with the “bumblebee” Camaro.

You might know but incase you don't, it's the noise to let the driver know when to upshift

Yeah but Holden or Ford could never match the Germans for refinement and overall build quality and I'm a one eyed Ford bloke

I know I will

If you buy it, they'll come

Because they are getting a better initial feel from the car, they get accustomed with it by breaking its limits. And while doing so, why not film it? :)

Mzn T Yeah but by doing that the brakes get tired and the tyres wear. Therefore the cars aren't at their best during the timed laps.

ianiva Well... at least they all have bad tires and breaks during the lap, so is still fair :P

Mzn T Yeah but some cars stand up to abuse better than others.

ianiva No, the tyres get warmed up so they *are* at their best. The brakes aren't built to wear out after a couple of laps at the track, neither are the tyres, that'd be stupid.

We make great cars !

chipchip Because this guy said from the beginning that this is the only Holden by now in Europe they can use. But I will show you some specifications that whatever Aussie can put in Holden engine can't beat the German Monster. Read now carefully this two cars are most powerfull and they are both the newest ones. Fast facts: HSV GTS - R W1 RRP: $ 170,000 plus on-road costs Engine: Supercharged 6.2 - litre LS9 V8 from Corvette ZR1 Power: 474 kw and 815 Nm Transmission: Six-speed manual 0 to 100 kmh: 4.2 seconds Fast facts: Audi RS6 Avant performance RRP: $ 260.000 Vehicle drive away Price Engine: Bi - Turbo 4.0 litre V8 engine Power: 445 kw and 700 Nm Transmission: 8 - speed tiptronic all wheel drive ( Quattro ) 0 to 100 kmh: 3.7 seconds This model of Audi RS6 Avant performance is launched in 2013 Same as Holden HSV GTS is launched in the same year 2013 The two models which i write the specifications on they are brand new ones.

Eddie D if they put another $100k into a car I reckon they’d get under 4s. A $15k Walkinshaw pack brings it to 3.7s and 557kW lol

Jamie Della Well, " Money talks " you have 💲💲💲 you can make this two cars Monsters but what I am saying is that this vehicles are like this from the factory, and for sure after you can upgrade them and make faster and faster. Also I didn't mention the RS7 is faster then HSV GTS and that's one is from the factory too is not tuned. Buddy my brother in law have 4 Holdens 1. Is Series 1 ss vf redline 6.0 L Auto with tuned of 270 kw engine and back tyres 270 kw 2. Is Series 2 ss vf redline LS3 V8 6.2 L Auto this one is not tuned and have 304 kw back tyres 3. Is Holden Monaro 5.7 L 270 KW back tyres I drive this one for a year till I bought my own car 4. Is Holden VE series 2 Ute 6.0 L upgrade back tyres to 343 kw is too loud so he drive it only on the weekend, and It's really really fast. Spin wheels easily in 3rd & 4th gear, the problem is when you buy a stock car and you upgrade to 343 kw then starts problems. The clutch can't handle that power need to be replaced with a heavy duty one, Auto gear need to be replaces too, differential need to be changed and the brand new good one cost $ 2000, you need a bigger tyres, engine need to be upgrade a bit more so he can handle all that power, and also Insurance after doesn't give a shit for you cause you break the rules he put so much extras in the car. So all this spending money in all this cars you can buy an Audi which is way more faster, but also that's the way when you like the cars who cares how much money need to spend.

Eddie I'm a holden fan too but after test driving the RS6. I now know why these cars costs that much. The quality of the car is top notch. Luxurious, spacious and hella quick. I felt like I was driving a car from the 1990s when I hop back in the holden lol.

did you mean latest or previous generation?

Trusty Tahr It's the previous generation

I think it drifts only because of the weight shifting mid-corner

To get a RWD drift is quite easy compared to AWD drift. If you can toss an AWD into a rally drift like Stig Blomqvist, You're a legend!

A V8,rwd manual wagon fixes this

the gap in australia is actually much bigger then that, look on carsales how much rs6s actually cost

crankCINEMA Probably , I can imagine your paying allot more taxes and for RHD.

Because Germans make the best cars and bring more innovation to the car world than anyone else, so when they make something, everyone else has to match it...that way they're always behind trying to catch up. It's obvious really that everyone else is a generation behind. One generation of an average German saloon car is about 7-8 years, and only when it's at the very end of the life cycle, american and asian cars can even think of getting close to it with their newest offerings...but at that point a new german car comes out and raises the bar again. It's quite simple.

derbigpr500 damn Germans

Ever heard of a Nissan GTR? The reason most don't go 4wd is because in a lot of situations it makes a car worse. It makes the car heavier, saps more power, corrupts steering and uses more fuel. In most cases that's enough to make it a bad decision because most road cars aren't struggling for traction all the time unless there's snow. Also Quattro isn't the be all and end all a lot of people think. Take this car for example. The drivetrain has a tendency for understeer as all Quattro Audi's do because most of the power goes to the front unless the front has already lost traction. Then it sends more to the rear but by then understeer has already set in. This is great for stability but terrible for turn in so the chassis engineers have set the chassis up right on the edge of stability to compensate for this - the chassis set up is what's allowing him to get it sideways into turns but the Quattro won't let him on the way out. Some 4wd systems do it the other way round where most is sent to the rear unless it slips. This is a much better idea because the drive system has a tendency for oversteer which allows the chassis to be set up in a very stable manner - this is how the GTR works (and the new Porsche, etc) and basically means you have to lose more speed on the way into a turn but can then get on the power far earlier as the drive system won't push the front wide on the exit.

Hung huge You're getting confused. You're talking about the haldex awd system which is used in the TT and a3/s3 shaped. This is an electronic based awd system that as you say sends most of the power to the front until slip occurs. All quattro cars from a4 upwards have a torsen awd system. This is fully mechanical and the newest T3 generation like in this Rs6 has a default setup of 40:60 front:rear power split. So it's actually rear biased when no slip is occurring. The RS6 then also gets an uprated sports diff in addition to the torsen awd so is a very capable car with great awd technology

I have but its still very flimsy car and overall dosent make a luxurious impression like the Audi does, it has power,traction,comfort and interior quality to last a nuke bombing, , what does GTR have a plastic sports car with lots of GRIP and traction its no way near as good or well rounded as an Audi a German car, thas what I am talking about

It is a man's car.

They both aren't sold here in the US.

I'm sorry, but the audi is the only car of these two where you can drive twice the distance of the vxr8 in great luxory... But happely the people with the money know that they are better off in the audi.

It is not more practical than the RS6, the boot is smaller and there is less space in the back. Just because it's an Audi doesn't mean it's unpractical. And while the Audi's steering does not have a lot of feel, GTS has lifeless steering which is just to light, and it still is nowhere near as luxurious than the Audi. But I still think it's a great fun car.

Audis are gay. Everyone knows this

A kebab ;-)

lol in what way?

Cr3act For me, probably because its shaped quite similar when you look at it from the front.

Wut u blind...

I think the Holden is much more muscular whereas the BMW is more sharp and fierce

It reminds me of the E90/E91/E92 3-Series, but no other BMW looks even close.

It must be cool to have a VXR8 parked outside your house...

Cadillacs are already cheap trim lol.

Sure the seats and steering wheel are nice in the V, but the fake chrome just puts me off. Outside and inside. Totally different feel in the German competitors. But hey, a lot of yanks dig the chrome. I like the GM autos out of the US much more then in (excluding the Vette)

fikes73 I definitely agree with you on the chrome but the Camaros (SS/ZL1/Z28) are pretty freakin cool.

luke mcvicar Misinformed idiot.

Sit in a Cadillac then go in a German and then you might learn something.

Or look at it the other way round and you have a car that's more fun for a lot less money. The Audi interior is still made of plastic and really what's more important in a car? How a dashboard feels (who feels a dashboard anyway?) or what it can do at what cost? Not saying I disagree - I think the Audi is a far better car. Just there are two sides to everything and as much as I like the Audi I would struggle to justify paying pretty much double for it.

Well let me tell you, in australia (a country where people love oversteer and rarely need awd) the HSV GTS which is similar to this VXR8 has 430kw and costs around $96,000. the audi rs6 has 412kw and costs around $270,000. I really love audis, however paying about $175,000 more to get the nice interior etc if all I wanted was a monster engine does seem a bit ridiculous (in australia). Also its worth noting that the car here tested is a very old model, that interior is from 2006 so really its unfair to compare that interior to the latest RS6 interior. The newer commodore interior is no audi but its a big improvement from the one seen in this video. And yes I know this review is in the uk but this car obviously isn't really for the uk is it, so thats why I am talking about the market it is built for where it actually does make sense.

Exactly, perfectly said... Holdens are pigs in my opinion and im not saying that from no experience.

Chris B ya because hsv g1s goming

And bred for body roll

SYNCOPY Probably not though. Both are far too expensive (to buy, to run, insure etc) for the normal boffin. I'd say The VXR is for a very very selective audience who wants something very specific and willing to pay for it.

Simply put, it's far more entertaining and faster in a straight line - a cut-price E63 AMG. Besides, you can tune 'em up well beyond 1000hp without breaking anything - you can't say that of the Audi.

Real men don't drive VAG tat

RS6 is more than double the price tag here in Aus - Maths makes the decision very easy. I'd rather go a second hand RS4 wagon any day of the week if it were me

If they were die hard Holden/Vauxhal fans, who have no class, have no concern of petrol bills, have no concern of build quality..practically hooners!

My cla 45 AMG does 4.5s

+Tomislav Zvonimir And price difference?

They are called sportswagon here in Australia where they are built. Many of them around i love wagons.

Only 1 in Europe!

@@Rambogner Wonder what it'll take me to buy it? That is just outta this world.

VF GTS is better ! love mine

Both buckets of shit

Me to

Holden in the UK

It's also shit because it ends after 5 seconds and never goes wrong.

FROOB202 Still better than RWD, but consumes all 4 tires.

If you want the best German fast saloon RS6 it's as simple as that

I realized I have no clue what he wore during the video. Why were you paying attention to that :)?

Because of all the in-car shots of him with that hoodie on with the fluorescent thingies.