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Audio Post Production for Film 101 - Dialog Editing pt.2 

Thomas Boykin
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In this third tutorial I go over how to refine your dialog editing in Pro Tools for a narrative feature, short, or TV show.
For part 2 I will focus on destructive processing using iZotope, finding alts, destructive processing, cleaning lav mics, and removing noise and clicks, ending up with a polished dialog edit for the mix.
If you'd like to learn more advanced stuff click here: eepurl.com/hcpA2z
A link to Catchin' Sync: quietart.co.nz/catchinsync/
And another link for Youlean Loudness Meter: youlean.co/youlean-loudness-m...
0:00 Intro and scene playback
2:49 Clip gaining to match levels
3:04 Fixing sync problems
4:54 Clip gaining futz track up
5:10 Fixing a track layout error
5:30 Second pass of dialog edit overview
5:44 Duplicating playlist before processing
6:52 Removing ticks/click using iZotope connect
10:08 Leaving tonal/broadband noise for the mix
10:50 Removing noise from lav mic example 1
13:23 Using an ALT take to fix a noise example 1
15:15 Using X tracks for garbage
16:23 Removing plosives
17:24 Using an ALT take to fix a noise example 2
20:07 Fixing breath edit
20:35 Leaving in “good” clicks
21:31 Removing noise from lav example 2
23:38 Second pass dialog edit overview
24:33 Edited scene playback
26:32 Adding missing PFX to fill out scene
28:39 Wrap up

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Комментарии : 66   
@AllenCavedo
@AllenCavedo 3 года назад
Best dialog editing video I have ever seen. Amazing skill set on display here. Hard to imagine how this was ever done with analog tape.
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
I was lucky enough to see a little bit of it when I started. Razor blades and tape, no thank you
@Eldude101
@Eldude101 2 года назад
I need a story drives every decision T-shirt at this point lol. Great video!
@louis-etiennepayer3839
@louis-etiennepayer3839 3 года назад
This is gold ! There is a lot to catch, to learn and to be inspired by. No matter the level you are you can learn from this. Thanks Thomas !
@Grihel
@Grihel 3 года назад
Totally!
@arnoldantony7400
@arnoldantony7400 3 года назад
Dialog editing ain't boring. I love it haha! Thank you Thomas!
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
Thanks. It seems like more people want to get into sfx. But the money is better in dialog editing.
@jeremiahjackson3248
@jeremiahjackson3248 2 года назад
I am amazed that you put this stuff out for free. Dialogue editing is a guilty pleasure of mine. Coming from music engineering (which tends to make me anxious) I find working with dialogue very cathartic, relaxing, even thrilling! No matter how many tracks, takes, nudges, or splicing I have to do.
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 2 года назад
For some people it is a great fit. I used to enjoy it more but after I started doing more sound effects it’s hard to go back. One of the better dialog editors I worked with used to work high as a kite and did a great job due to being able to zone out and enter a zen like state while cutting.
@scottbertram3208
@scottbertram3208 2 года назад
Hey Thomas, amazing video, thanks for the time and effort you put into demystifying and showing your process in detail. Grealy appreciated
@dankot87
@dankot87 Год назад
Wow these tutorials are incredible! I'm studying sounds design for film and television and these videos are a great addition to my studies. Ku-dos!
@Kamarkarze
@Kamarkarze 3 года назад
The films I usually work on are low budget films not shot on a sound stage.. And the background on the dialogue is super noisy. What you've done here has helped me realise some mistakes I've made and also confirmed other decisions I made. So thank you and I look forward to the next video!
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and glad to help
@tasha4293
@tasha4293 Месяц назад
This was so helpful, thanks!
@OhayoMacchiato
@OhayoMacchiato Год назад
Awesome trick at 7:50. I later used it on a scene to remove clicking and clacking from hand rings and jewelry. Great results without over processing the audio. 👌
@user-ly9wp5ir2z
@user-ly9wp5ir2z 8 месяцев назад
how much of free information you are giving. love you mannnnnn
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 8 месяцев назад
Happy to help!
@paulkazibwesekyeru
@paulkazibwesekyeru 7 месяцев назад
Great video here Thomas. Very well articulated. Could you do one one specifically for processing dialogue at the mixing stage? I'd like to understand how you would approach getting great tone with EQ, compression and other processing. Thanks.
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 7 месяцев назад
Great suggestion!
@223Mattc
@223Mattc 3 года назад
Great stuff Thomas! Enjoyed watching your process :)
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
Thanks!
@yangtzuting
@yangtzuting 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the tutorial! Learn a lot from your every step!
@christibugmusic
@christibugmusic 2 года назад
Thank you!!! This was amazing detail and transparency!!!! I learned "too much"!!!!! Just getting into this business.....extremely helpful!!!!!
@crisislab
@crisislab Год назад
Great video. I'm just amazing at how fast you manage to find missing bits of sound. Coming from picture editing I would've somehow just taken much longer to find the alt line and the arm going down on the table. This is wonderfully informative stuff. :)
@jeeminhan
@jeeminhan 9 месяцев назад
Amazing video. Truly grateful for your time and effort to share your skills! THANK YOU! GOD BLESS YOU!
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 9 месяцев назад
He does, and I hope He blesses you too.
@evanhaley2255
@evanhaley2255 3 года назад
Great Tutorial! Very helpful
@andrewmacht1667
@andrewmacht1667 3 года назад
You and I use the same techniques. However, I really love how you're using markers during the dialogue edit to quickly recall what you're editing. For me, that's one of the big takeaways form this. Looks to be a great time saver.
@andrewmacht1667
@andrewmacht1667 3 года назад
I also really enjoy your method of color coding alts.
@bekimachine
@bekimachine 10 месяцев назад
Fantastic video series, thank you!
@chinpou
@chinpou 2 года назад
This is a masterclass but for free. Thank you! You got a buy me a coffee link or anything?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 2 года назад
You can buy my kids an ice cream and get a template in return: www.4lo-digital.com/pro-tools-templates/
@chinpou
@chinpou 2 года назад
@@ThomasBoykin I’m a reaper user. What’s your kid’s venmo? 🤣 How essential is it to work in pro tools for post audio, would you say? I’m kinda married to reaper…
@MegaMen767
@MegaMen767 Год назад
Awesome ❤ you‘re such a help! Greetings from Germany
@kabed9413
@kabed9413 2 года назад
Great videos!
@vijayanand1154
@vijayanand1154 2 года назад
brilliant videos
@0bsolet
@0bsolet 10 месяцев назад
Excellent thank you so much.
@dezua
@dezua 3 года назад
Another great video! I woudn't mind if you make longer videos, because i learn so much with every move you make. I don't think I came across so detailed explanation on dialogue editing on youtube before. I hope you will keep up with making videos. Will you also go through mixing dialogue, I'd really like to see how you approach mixing (especially cleaning dialogue with EQ, because I can't find any reliable videos online and I think its my weakness (probably because of poor monitoring condition (mainly working on headphones and checking on cheap focal pair of monitors, because of not so good room acoustics)). Thank you man!
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
Thanks! I will be going though mixing in an upcoming episode. I try to keep these videos under an hour for a few reasons. But one of them is I don’t expect to make any money off of them so I have to pay my bills by doing work.
@dezua
@dezua 3 года назад
@@ThomasBoykin Of course, ty!
@arnishmech3415
@arnishmech3415 2 года назад
Hey thanks for your amazing content, where can we find these projects so that we can practice.
@TheJoeStockton
@TheJoeStockton 3 года назад
Loving these videos Tom! I'm curious as to why you chose to leave certain sounds like footsteps in the dialogue tracks and not your pfx tracks. Would they not need to live in the M&E?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
If there is breathing or other vocalizations the tracks need to be in the dialog stem. When I do an MnE I will go through and do further editing to ensure the MnE is fully filled.
@Almokyshow
@Almokyshow 3 года назад
This is great! I learn a lot from your videos. Do you think that Pro tools standard it’s enough for editing or the Ultimate version? Thanks for the video it’s really helpful
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
It will depend on what you do. For just sound editing the standard version is good to start with.
@lagaleracine
@lagaleracine 10 месяцев назад
Beautiful! But what do you do when one actor's lav is present in a scene and not in the next one? Lol...
@JosephHenryLuckinbill
@JosephHenryLuckinbill Месяц назад
@bharathj63
@bharathj63 3 года назад
What about dialogue panning based in the source of the sound and the position of the character?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
It is case by case. But that is a mixing topic not editing
@YahirVergara
@YahirVergara 5 месяцев назад
Great video, Tom! Quick question, are you working on Pro Tools Ultimate or Studio? Thanks again, for your videos.
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 5 месяцев назад
Ultimate
@omegwaw1619
@omegwaw1619 9 месяцев назад
Hi, many thanks for your tutorials. It helps me a lot. I was wondering, when you work on a complete movie, do you do all the dialogue edits and then sound design and ambience or do you go scene by scene?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 9 месяцев назад
Dialogue first
@omegwaw1619
@omegwaw1619 9 месяцев назад
@@ThomasBoykin thank you for your reply. I admit that I was expecting this answer but I find it very exhausting to do so much dialogue. But it does make sense for workflow :)
@clayman55
@clayman55 2 года назад
How would you deal with a scene that cuts back and forth between 2 medium shots (characters are sitting at a kitchen table), but the room tone is drastically different between the two shots?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 2 года назад
Fill both sides and deal with it in the mix
@dautzhantassov8410
@dautzhantassov8410 3 года назад
Great tutorial! How much time does it take to edit a feature film?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 3 года назад
It will depend on the budget. For most indie films I will be given 4 weeks to do a proper dialog edit.
@dautzhantassov8410
@dautzhantassov8410 3 года назад
@@ThomasBoykin Thanks!
@andrewmacht1667
@andrewmacht1667 3 года назад
@@ThomasBoykin I'm curious to have you elaborate a little more. What do you do differently between a high budget and low budget film to meet deadlines and client expectations?
@Thuser-ij8kv
@Thuser-ij8kv 2 года назад
Great tutorials Thomas! Thanks a lot. I’ve got two questions if you have some time would be great to know what’s your opinion. 1. Do you think using boom and Lav on the entire film , at every single dialogue line is it a good idea? 2. I’ve seen pfx some times to be routed to Dialogue Submaster and other times to Fx submaster. Of course make sense to send to FX but there are a lot movements, footsteps that happen same time with breathings etc. If I send to pfx I’ll have to fill the DX with room tone and at the end I’ll have a lot of noise from the room from pfx and the room tone on dialogue tracks. So what I do now is to keep these movements on Dialogue tracks so I don’t have any drops on the sound and I only place some wild sounds from the location on pfx with some denoise processing. What’s your opinion about it? I see you place some movements on DX tracks as well but the MnE version will miss these movements and only will come from foley (FX master).
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 2 года назад
1. No. 2. Depends on the sound. Big pfx that I will likely dip I fill the dx tracks with tone. If it doesn’t interrupt the flow of the dialog this usually works fine. Basically spiky transient stuff or completely clean pfx I will split off the dx tracks. I route these to the sfx sub.
@Thuser-ij8kv
@Thuser-ij8kv 2 года назад
Thanks so much for your reply Thomas. It’s nice to know the opinion from a pro audio engineer.
@kathleenmoser6797
@kathleenmoser6797 Год назад
@@ThomasBoykin Thank you for your videos and for taking the time to answer all these comments Thomas! I‘m curious, as I am learning from the people I work for I‘ve been using both Boom and Lav for my projects usually (aligned of course). Whats the reason as for why you wouldn‘t recommend it?
@BurgundyKRO
@BurgundyKRO 2 года назад
What headphones do you recommend ?
@ThomasBoykin
@ThomasBoykin 2 года назад
Beyerdynamic DT880 pro are what I use
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