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F.H. Audley was a saddler who ran a business in New York City starting in the 1870s. As his business in horse tackle declined with the spread of automobiles, he found himself looking for other product lines. In 1906 he moved to a location across the street form a New York police station, and found himself fielding a lot of requests for holsters from the local police officers. He would end up patenting a number of holster designs and features, but the most popular and successful was his Safety Holster.
This design used a spring loaded metal catch that locked into the trigger guard of a pistol or revolver, which had to be manually depressed to draw the gun. It is a design that would not pass muster by today's safety standards, but did hold the gun quite effectively and with pistol like this Colt 1903, was not actually much of a safety hazard (thanks to the gun's grip safety). Audley died a few years after he patented the design in 1914, but his design would continue to be produced until the 1950s or 60s. Examples can be found made for nearly every popular pistol used in those decades, from all sized of Colts to Savage to Lugers and revolvers as well.
This particular holster and Colt 1903 have the remarkable provenance of having belonged to Roger Hall, an OSS Jedburgh agent who wrote "You're Stepping on My Cloak and Dagger" - a rather self-deprecating account of his activities with the agency during World War Two. You can find the book here:
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@johnnymnemonic69
@johnnymnemonic69 4 года назад
It's alot better than the Oddly Danger Holster that depresses the trigger every time you holster it.
@amitnachman3840
@amitnachman3840 4 года назад
lol
@709badwolf
@709badwolf 4 года назад
lol,,,lol,,,lol 👍
@Stukov961
@Stukov961 4 года назад
Lmao
@inTIMMYdator44
@inTIMMYdator44 4 года назад
I imagine it also plays the "shake hands with danger" motif whenever you holster or draw the pistol
@Seb-Storm
@Seb-Storm 4 года назад
Which holster are you talking about?
@c.s.p.schofield2202
@c.s.p.schofield2202 4 года назад
Hall’s book is glorious fun. One of a small handful of ‘humorous’ WWII memoirs that don’t set my teeth on edge. Many have a ‘isn’t this jolly fun’ attitude about the War. Hall takes the war seriously. He just doesn’t take the War Department seriously.
@troy9477
@troy9477 4 года назад
That right there is the key. Bureaucracy has many foibles and thus a lot of comedic material. But war itself is very serious business, especially WW2 when it was supremely important to put the Nazis down.
@jonathan_60503
@jonathan_60503 3 года назад
I'll second that. Really enjoyable book - so cool to see Ian whip that out.
@la-zrider2749
@la-zrider2749 4 года назад
"Welcome to the Salty Spitoon, how tough are ya?" "How tough am I? How tough am I?! I carried a loaded Glock this morning." "Pft, yeah, so?" "In a Audley Safety Holster." "Right this way."
@rucker69
@rucker69 4 года назад
Kydex Hut Jr's?!
@boymahina123
@boymahina123 4 года назад
@@kenbrown2808 damn bruh
@phillipbampton911
@phillipbampton911 3 года назад
Evil, wicked, mean and nasty. I like it.
@schrodingersgat4344
@schrodingersgat4344 Год назад
From MOM to WOW.
@SpaetzleOperator
@SpaetzleOperator 4 года назад
Ahhhh.... that's where the idea for the SERPA came from.
@robertscott2210
@robertscott2210 4 года назад
Yup, thought the same thing. As Solomon said, there truly is nothing new under the sun.
@ryanpeck3377
@ryanpeck3377 4 года назад
My thoughts exactly
@andrewpiegzik4121
@andrewpiegzik4121 4 года назад
Beat me too it
@matveicat5594
@matveicat5594 4 года назад
It's really impressive how close it came, this guy if he'd played with it tad longer could have made leather and steel, 1870's SERPA holster, just add double fold tot he sprint to extend the tabs push button in front of the guard, contour the leather rover the trigger guard leaving just small hold for the spring button. Same mechanism and tooling, same look and use, but actually safer and more secure so close, its kinda freaky he didn't end up all the way!
@robertscott2210
@robertscott2210 4 года назад
@@matveicat5594 The part where he died probably interrupted development lol.
@Outerwebs
@Outerwebs 4 года назад
If it's on Forgotten Weapons and has the word 'safety' in the name, you can be pretty sure it's inherently unsafe by modern standards.
@lasarousi
@lasarousi 4 года назад
The word safety will always be ironic on any device made exclusively to harm and kill.
@moralmonster6444
@moralmonster6444 4 года назад
Someone once commented that guns today are designed by Lawyers.
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 4 года назад
When I was very little my dad had a box of "Safety Razors" that introduced me to the concepts of philosophy, relativism and critical thinking at a very young age.
@mistakenotou7681
@mistakenotou7681 4 года назад
@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey they are safe compared to straight razor you can't cut your ear off with them
@JayFude
@JayFude 4 года назад
If there was never an accidental discharge, then it was safe enough. This was made pre-nanny state. I think "safety" is completely ridiculous today. There are areas that needed to be made more safe, but many just need to axe the lawyers, and rely on not being stupid. You can't fix stupid, and that's the cause of about 100% of all accidents.
@genz2a497
@genz2a497 4 года назад
Forgotten holsters
@ltcysaber87
@ltcysaber87 4 года назад
@@detol8 nice
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx 4 года назад
forgotten hats, forgotten vehicles, forgotten weapons
@fabiankonrath2804
@fabiankonrath2804 4 года назад
@@manitoba-op4jx forgotten Bergmanns
@HumbleDirtMerchant
@HumbleDirtMerchant 2 года назад
You can tell it works better than expected by the lack of holes in it.
@normtrooper4392
@normtrooper4392 4 года назад
That's fine leatherwork especially for being over a 100 years old
@sterkriger2572
@sterkriger2572 4 года назад
Actually we don’t get to see this quality of work for something mass produced nowadays. It’s much more common to see leather and other premium materials in the past than is now
@donovanchilton5817
@donovanchilton5817 4 года назад
@@williamkeith8944 Damn right. Got three of their full rigs and two holsters for semi autos. Beautiful work
@jakubukleja2553
@jakubukleja2553 3 года назад
@@williamkeith8944 They are niche tho. As you said "small" companies. Back then, factories made quality items in the hundreds of thousands.
@MMitchellMarmel
@MMitchellMarmel 4 года назад
My favorite OSS author! I regret never having met him, but "Stepping" has been one of the few books I repeatedly reread. :)
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 года назад
This is of the same mindset that if you're going to draw a pistol from a holster you need to be ready to shoot it.
@5000rgb
@5000rgb 4 года назад
Maybe even before you get it out of the holster.
@scottyj6226
@scottyj6226 4 года назад
Yeah I mean I figured keeping your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot was a hunting /"range rule." Not for, "oh crap I'm gonna die!" Moments.
@kennethquesenberry2610
@kennethquesenberry2610 3 года назад
The old-time fast draw artists had their finger inside the trigger guard as soon as they touched the handgun. But there were a lot of accidents when fast draw became a sport in the 1950s.
@4nhk066
@4nhk066 4 года назад
man that leather... 100y.o. and still shining like new! very rare for an organic product to be holding up like that after a century
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 4 года назад
Carcinogenic preservatives, probably.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 года назад
Yeah whats in it can kill you just as dead as what is in it. Lol
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
Well tanned and well maintained.
@jakubukleja2553
@jakubukleja2553 3 года назад
No it's not. Look up some Russian videos of guys searching for ww2 stuff with metal detectors. They often find complete rifles with their stocks and leather belts completely intact, despite them sitting in mud for 70 years.
@alanurban8095
@alanurban8095 4 года назад
The grand daddy of the serpa.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад
@@detol8 Heh!
@alanurban8095
@alanurban8095 4 года назад
@@detol8 It is much better looking at least.
@jesseterrell9354
@jesseterrell9354 4 года назад
Dustin H. Training issue.
@mechredd
@mechredd 4 года назад
Dispite appearances, this one seems to avoid the serpa discharge.
@troubleinbound
@troubleinbound 4 года назад
@@jesseterrell9354they're fine holsters for Springfield XD carrying boomers who only have to contend with sweating on the gun, but they tend to get filled with dirt and fail to release the firearm
@PoindexterG
@PoindexterG 4 года назад
Honestly, if you pair that holster with something that has a grip safety, it’s probably not that horrible.
@jasonirwin4631
@jasonirwin4631 4 года назад
That's what I was thinking. A 1911 with this kind of holster would be a match made in heaven and a fudds wet dream.
@cg8212
@cg8212 4 года назад
@@jasonirwin4631 or an HK P7.
@camwinston5248
@camwinston5248 4 года назад
I agree with all 100%
@scowler92
@scowler92 4 года назад
Same thought.
@The8thCharacter
@The8thCharacter 4 года назад
William Keith make sure it ain't cocked
@16Tango
@16Tango 4 года назад
Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought FW would highlight something that I own. My Grandfather gave me a 1903 in .32 that belonged to his father and it came in that exact holster.
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 4 года назад
I'd love to get the Colt. The 1903 looks as elegant as a PPK.
@transtubular
@transtubular 4 года назад
It feels as good as it looks in the hand however, the safety catch isn't as sure, it just kinda moves up and down and there is nothing to tell you where it's at along the way nor to keep it there other than minimum friction.
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 4 года назад
@@transtubular It would be more of a collector item for me. I love old semi-autos, and at some point I would like to start buying these old ladies. And shoot them occasionally, to be sure.
@smartacus88
@smartacus88 4 года назад
Everybody likes to shit on America these days, and in many ways it's our own fault. At the turn of the last century however our arms industry was second to none. Only Germany could offer any viable competition in the innovation department.
@dmg4415
@dmg4415 4 года назад
@@smartacus88 True, but do not forget Beretta and CZ, northen Italy has a long tradition of good quality machinery, and the Chezcs was as good as the germans and the swiss, but not so complicated weapons, the true central Europe was good in enginering. And a lot of these folks emigrated to the US, took with them their knowledge and workmanship. But after the war as the market was flooded by surplus, 2 different categories turned up. 1 Very high end products ( just revived after the war) and 2 cheap production, to comptet on the same level as the surplus guns. Then we got the worst of them all PLASTIC/POLYMER. Good and bad guns, the really bad ones goes away quickly, but the rest? Good functioning, very ugly to the eye.
@GCJT1949
@GCJT1949 4 года назад
See Ian reviewing the Shanghai Police Pistol. Geoff Who would like a 1908 and a Savage double column .380.
@WhitePaw80
@WhitePaw80 4 года назад
I have one of these holsters, in similar condition, for a Savage 1907 pistol; I have the pistol as well. Neat piece of history.
@kevinbrackett101
@kevinbrackett101 4 года назад
Imagine if Audley were alive today, marketing his holster at SHOT, when Ian and Karl walk up to his booth!
@magoid
@magoid 4 года назад
It look scary at first sight but actually is a very thought out holster.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад
It presumes the shooter isn't an idiot; that assumption no longer applies in this imperfect world.
@dillonandrews8970
@dillonandrews8970 4 года назад
Laird Cummings I don’t want to come off as a Pratt. But I would say, that the idiots carrying guns then were, just as bad as idiots carrying guns today! The difference being that an idiot today does everything they can to blame any and everyone from the holster designer to the firearm manufacturers and there instructor even if thats the poor chap at the gun store who sold them the firearm i agree with your statement and have no clue why i am writing this comment maybe its just the lockdown and sleep deprivation getting to me P.S. sorry for the degeneration of my punctuation i hate to using proper punctuation when typing with my phone its bloody inconvenient
@BigSwede7403
@BigSwede7403 4 года назад
@@lairdcummings9092 To be fair, we all have that inner idiot that strikes when we least expect it. Most sensible people manage to keep him in check 99.90% of the time, others activly invite him to take the wheel for a bit.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад
@@BigSwede7403 truth.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад
@@dillonandrews8970 and that is *WHY* the assumption no longer applies.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 4 года назад
Very cool old holster. As a former peace officer, I can tell you, any holster that secures your weapon from the hands of a bad guy, especially when you are rolling around in the gravel trying to cuff the guy is a great holster. I would have no problem using such a holster today, looks like a great match of pistol to carrier, especially for the on duty officer. Today, of course there are good holsters that do retain very well without exposing the firearm to the bad guy and without forcing the trigger finger into the guard, but I guess my initial training never included the new attitude of not touching the trigger till you are ready to fire, but then I have been out of the system now since 1993.
@RNKel1
@RNKel1 4 года назад
Cool! I’ve never seen a 1903 colt in real life or in videos besides video games. That holster is nice!
@Gladiator34B
@Gladiator34B 4 года назад
Kelly I’m lucky enough that my stepdad has one that is either nickel plated or stainless, can’t remember which. It’s a smooth shooter :D
@sorenlilienthal1368
@sorenlilienthal1368 4 года назад
@@Gladiator34B Nickel plated, for sure. Stainless steel wasn't used for guns until 1960, when S&W introduced their M60 Chief Special Stainless.
@zachbenton2171
@zachbenton2171 4 года назад
The little graphic showing what you hit was pure genius. Something like that should be in WAY more videos.
@kampase
@kampase 4 года назад
For the record, horse equipment is called tack
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 года назад
Thank you , Ian .
@burnttoast26
@burnttoast26 4 года назад
Gun Jesus is expanding his teachings to holsters now, blessed be.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 года назад
This time he preaches from the book of Audley safety holsters
@williamthompson5190
@williamthompson5190 4 года назад
Hallowed be thy name
@gcart7675
@gcart7675 4 года назад
you know hes talked about holsters before not as often as guns but he has
@Kawawaymog
@Kawawaymog 4 года назад
Under his hammer
@williamthompson5190
@williamthompson5190 4 года назад
@@Kawawaymog Amen, brother.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 4 года назад
The book, Your Stepping on my Cloak and Dagger is a great read.
@steeltalon2356
@steeltalon2356 4 года назад
Back in my day we called them leg-poppers. As was the style at the time.
@Clipazine
@Clipazine 4 года назад
I love when he covers this "Ye Olde Tactical" stuff.
@Alfenium
@Alfenium 4 года назад
I remember those times. Yup, they don't make tacticals the way that they used to.
@MrRobbi373
@MrRobbi373 4 года назад
tacticlassical
@John.VanSwearingen
@John.VanSwearingen 4 года назад
Nice, an early SERPA.
@dBacH1000
@dBacH1000 4 года назад
Came here to make that comment.
@ColtautosUSA
@ColtautosUSA 4 года назад
Audley had a few holster and shoulder holster designs that pre-date this version of his safety holster going back to 1908. Also, the Colt depicted in this video is a Colt 1903 that, but for some wartime blanket procured guns, appears to predate the US Property marked Colt 1903 .32 pistols issued to some members of the OSS.
@chemech
@chemech 4 года назад
I need to go re-read Hall's books.... the irony in them was often intense. The training site at the Congressional Country Club made for some good chapters...
@steveh1792
@steveh1792 4 года назад
I came across the book in high school (50+ years ago), and nearly injured myself more than once by laughing so hard. ("...very few bodies bounced quite that high...")
@chemech
@chemech 4 года назад
@@steveh1792 We're of an age... and I discovered the books when I was in high school as well.
@Count_Smackula
@Count_Smackula 4 года назад
Nice piece of kit!
@Michael-im1vc
@Michael-im1vc 4 года назад
The craftsmanship is superb! Also, thank you for the heads up on the book, just purchased it as a result!
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 4 года назад
THANKS for a good story and a look at an often overlooked part of the pistol system.
@beaker126
@beaker126 4 года назад
I actually have one of these for a Mauser 1910, kinda scary but an interesting design for its time.
@jakubukleja2553
@jakubukleja2553 3 года назад
How is it scary? Just put your gun on safe before you holster it. Isn't that like the most basic thing they teach you on the range? I would never holster a gun with the safety off, no matter how "safe" and "modern" the holster might be.
@beaker126
@beaker126 3 года назад
@@jakubukleja2553 The other basic things they teach is to never rely on a mechanical safety, and to keep your finger out of the trigger guard and off the trigger until you're ready to shoot, so there's that as well.
@jakubukleja2553
@jakubukleja2553 3 года назад
@@beaker126 I know, but it's kind of weird. if you can't rely on one part of the firearm, why should you rely on the rest of it? If the safety is unreliable, why should the rest of the gun be reliable? By that logic, you should expect every firearm to blow up in your face every time you pull the trigger,.
@beaker126
@beaker126 3 года назад
@@jakubukleja2553 Pistols blowing up with factory ammo are rare occurrences, so much that it's noteworthy when it happens. A small machined part or tiny spring, less so. The bigger issue is safe gun handling and not sticking your finger in the trigger area while the pistol is strapped to one's leg. Apparently I can't express why that's bad gun handling in a way that makes sense, so have a nice day.
@jakubukleja2553
@jakubukleja2553 3 года назад
@@beaker126 I have seen locking lugs tear off of an ak bolt with factory ammunition. I have also seen an ar bolt crack in half in the middle of the cam pin hole. If two of the most reliable firearms on this planet can fail in such ways, what stops pistols (which are much more flimsy) from doing the same? Firearms suffering possibly deadly malfunctions is far from a "rare occurrence". Also, if I had a choice between trusting a mechanical system a team full of 150+ IQ engineers spent decades to design and perfect, and trusting some random guy to not pull the trigger when he's not supposed to, I would rather choose the former.
@Deannatheos
@Deannatheos 4 года назад
Excellent you have one of the best shows on the you tube.
@agingerbeard
@agingerbeard 4 года назад
As always I learn something and enjoy myself thanks for another great little video
@morganahoff2242
@morganahoff2242 4 года назад
Ian makes such good videos. It can be a topic I'm barely interested in, and by the end I'm glad I watched it!
@davidstooksbury8835
@davidstooksbury8835 4 года назад
Thank you Ian! A nice piece of history.
@mockingpirate7659
@mockingpirate7659 4 года назад
Nice 1903! I've been lucky to know a guy with a few old colt autos. They are well made, and fun little guns. And he likes to shoot them from time to time
@ohg4338
@ohg4338 4 года назад
Last time I was this early these weapons weren’t forgotten.
@tonyburns6707
@tonyburns6707 4 года назад
I bought the Hall book after seeing the video and I have to say it is one of the funniest memoirs that I've read in a long time. Thanks for the tip.
@richardkluesek4301
@richardkluesek4301 4 года назад
This presentation brought back some memories. While growing up in the Bronx NYC as late as the 1970s there were the older cops who had been "on the job" since the 1950s still wearing these holsters for service revolvers and this can be seen on the old tv cop shows like Naked City and the comedy Car 54. Also there were other holster makers like 'J' ay 'P' ee, Paris Theodore (sneaky people ASP S&W39 review), and Chick Gaylord who were famously successful and others not so much, like Stein, all who got their start by proximity to the NYPD Precinct houses. Never heard of any accidental discharges or gun snatches from out of an Audley. An improved BH "serpa" style lock might still be workable in this holster platform.
@MrPanzerDragoon
@MrPanzerDragoon Год назад
This was an Audley refreshing video to watch.
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 4 года назад
The book is absolutely fanastic. It is a long time since I have read something even remotely as hilarious as this book.
@CatalinaThePirate
@CatalinaThePirate 4 года назад
😃 Cool! Hall's book sounds great. Thanks for posting this vid, Ian. I always learn a lot more than expected from your channel, glad I subbed (so many years ago). 😁
@slimsammyone
@slimsammyone 4 года назад
If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
@troy9477
@troy9477 4 года назад
Very interesting. Back in the good old days, when a 32 was considered a fighting pistol. I think condition 3 carry was fairly common back then, so there may have been less of a safety issue than we think. Audley was certainly very innovative. I bet they were popular with plainclothes people if fighting with suspects was common. Great video as always. Thank you
@davidkermes393
@davidkermes393 4 года назад
I read that book when I was in high school! Good stories.
@tulsatrash
@tulsatrash 4 года назад
History is fascinating and so is this holster.
@tripleog9557
@tripleog9557 4 года назад
Top notch content Ian. Bravo very interesting 🤔
@callumdonington2227
@callumdonington2227 4 года назад
Man the 1903 in that holster is a sexy combo.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 года назад
Oddly an Audley from a hundred years ago still looking that good. Cool
@rocksandoil2241
@rocksandoil2241 4 года назад
Had to post this to my buddy's website since he builds holsters and knife sheaths for the knife builders.
@Sp1der44
@Sp1der44 4 года назад
I think that holster is a brilliant design and I'll bet the release was fine - if it wasn't they would have changed it. The finish of that leather is very fine as well. Great Video!
@stevelewis1721
@stevelewis1721 4 года назад
Perfect for any cocked and locked pistol. I'd use one for my 1911. You actually keep the weapons you spotlight from being forgotten. Thanks.
@bbb462cid
@bbb462cid 4 года назад
Love it. And one of my favorite pistols too. Love my 1920 Colt 1903.
@NielMalan
@NielMalan 4 года назад
The diversity of material on this channel is a great part of its appeal.
@trickeydick5024
@trickeydick5024 4 года назад
It's really not the safety standards that have been compromised.. it's common sense that has been thrown out the window! Cheers
@ToastytheG
@ToastytheG 4 года назад
BEST. GUN. EVER. I have one, but I never knew what that holster was. Thanks, Ian!
@VicFromFallout
@VicFromFallout 4 года назад
Safety standards 100 years ago....Fitz special revolver? Hmm
@SlySquriel
@SlySquriel 4 года назад
As soon as I saw the release procedure I had to pause the video and face palm for about 30 seconds. We really have come a long way...
@MFGordon
@MFGordon 4 года назад
Many years ago I used to work for Sile Distributors on Centre Market Place, one of the the last gun sellers in NYC, right next door to John Jovino. The New York City police had long since moved away.
@nonamesplease6288
@nonamesplease6288 4 года назад
Nicely designed holster for a guy who used to make buggy whips.
@steamboatmodel
@steamboatmodel 4 года назад
A friend of my late mother was one of the Canadian Women's Army Corp. assigned to the OSS in New York, some of the stuff she said, made it sound like a rich playboys club.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 4 года назад
That's a pretty apt description of Wild Bill Donovan's bunch. WEB Griffin has written a couple fictional book series dealing with the OSS in this time frame, and that's pretty much the impression that you get -- Ivy League jocks playing at being spies. Griffin's books are pure fantasy, of course -- all the men are handsome, the women are beautiful, they're all pntelligent, and most of them are ultra rich and have the purest of motives. If the character comes from a normal background, that just means they're extra intelligent and handsome and athletic, so they can win the heart of the super wealthy girl... I've seen Hall's book, I think my brother had a copy ages ago, and now I want to find a copy and read it myself.
@troy9477
@troy9477 4 года назад
I love Griffin (RIP). Actually William E. Butterworth III; Griffin is a pseudonym. One of my favorite authors. Have read all the series more than once. Only one i don't have all of is the Badge of Honor series. I am short 1 or 2 volumes. I discovered The Corps at random maybe 20 yrs ago, and it led me to the others.
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 4 года назад
@@troy9477 I have read most of his books as well - beginning with his young adult books about cars and racing set in the 60's... Have not read the Badge series though, but I'm sure my dad has them all. I will say that the quality of storytelling has dropped off - too formulaic, even though I still like them.
@troy9477
@troy9477 4 года назад
@@AndrewAMartin - yeah it did in the later years. Hecwrote and co-wrote the MASH followup novels as well. Were the young adult novels under his own name, or under Griffin? Have you read The Hunting Trip? It was a hoot
@AndrewAMartin
@AndrewAMartin 4 года назад
@@troy9477 I have not read The Hunting Trip... The juvenile books were under Butterworth, Griffin was in order to escape that reputation. Fast Green Car was one of them, and they kind of cross over with Helicopter Pilot and Orders to Vietnam... I don't have any of those, I got them from the library back in the day...
@Gundog55
@Gundog55 9 месяцев назад
I was going through my “Holster drawer” and found one of these that I got from my grandfather along with his Colt Pocket pistol. He bought both “new” back in the day after being sought by St Louis gangsters. He joined the Navy and was sent to France in WWI and took these with him.
@hanktorrance6855
@hanktorrance6855 4 года назад
Great presentation, what's old is new again, retention holsters
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 7 месяцев назад
The police holster my Dad used in the 1960s was made by Jay Pee, and it used this exact same system.
@Nordy941
@Nordy941 4 года назад
I really like that. Would definitely buy one today for my 1911 it’s within my realm of acceptable safety standards.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
What Price Glory has them for $55.
@paulo5501
@paulo5501 4 года назад
I have one of these for a 1911. It´s very secure and fast to draw.
@paulo5501
@paulo5501 4 года назад
@Jon Maier Mine Mine is an inheritance from my great-grandfather who was in the Great War and I still use it today where I go. It is in excellent condition for its age and I always take care of its leather. It's from Audley's originals and not from the next Folsom series.
@dawnpatrol1943
@dawnpatrol1943 4 года назад
i would love to see more videos about this, you don't really see many vintage holster reviews.
@reconty2133
@reconty2133 4 года назад
My Great Grandfather carried a Luger in one of these in the twenties and thirties with a Sam Brown belt. Really nice rig.
@jona68
@jona68 4 года назад
Besides the functionality, this lether is over 100 years old and still in this good condition?? Unbelieveable!!
@bcaffrey98
@bcaffrey98 4 года назад
Along the same vein, in the 1960s and early 70s, was the revolver "clam-shell" holster. It encased the revolver and required you to push a button like the Audley, whereupon the holster would "split" into two halves using a spring to flip the outer section open. The gun was lightly retained by a form fitting interior. These were even shown for one season on "Adam-12". The problem was these could fail under certain circumstances. If you're pushed against a wall or laying on the holster wrestling someone, you couldn't draw the gun. Sometimes hard running could pop the holster open, especially if it banged into something like a chair or fence post. Then the gun would fall out.
@davidgillon2762
@davidgillon2762 4 года назад
5:16 "Hall was an OSS Jed-burg agent" Everyone in Scotland and the North East of England wonders why they just winced simultaneously. "Jed-bruh" MoD assigned the codename, so definitely British pronunciation, Jedburgh was a joint British-American-Franco-Belgian operation, with some Dutch participation as well.
@someguy5444
@someguy5444 4 года назад
y'all just wait until my safety dynamite is patented, comes with a lit fuse as lighting it yourself would be far to dangerous..
@mistakenotou7681
@mistakenotou7681 4 года назад
You will burn your finger if you hold the match too long .or cut yourself with a flint stone or ferro rod and don't even start me on those damn gas lighters
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 4 года назад
My dad had a police holster for his S&W 38 that worked exactly like this. I think Jay Pee was the maker. I wish I knew where it was today.
@travpots6318
@travpots6318 4 года назад
Good job
@EldarKinSlayer
@EldarKinSlayer 4 года назад
Showing once again the most important safety is the nut behind the trigger.
@EldarKinSlayer
@EldarKinSlayer 4 года назад
When The US wanted to screw the enemy FDR turned to a Lawyer. The British who were much more sophisticated turned to Bankers.
@OLLE3770
@OLLE3770 4 года назад
So that's where the name of Darius Jedburgh (played by Joe Don Baker) in the TV-series "Edge of Darkness" came from - I guess. Really good show. The film (based on the series) with Mel Gibson as Detective Craven left no impressions as far as I can remember. But I do re-watch the BBC-series. Musical Score provided by Eric Clapton and Michael Kamen btw. For those interested.
@Scourgething
@Scourgething 4 года назад
I wonder how many of these exist with bullet holes in the bottom.
@GiggleBlizzard
@GiggleBlizzard 4 года назад
Apparently none by the sounds of it but it would be quite a find to discover one.
@Hypastpist
@Hypastpist 4 года назад
​@@GiggleBlizzard betcha one in florida
@8-7-styx94
@8-7-styx94 4 года назад
@@Hypastpist Florida Man is as Florida man does. Ain't nobody gonna tell him where to shoot a pistol. Greetings from Daytona Beach, FL =P
@uhhhhh262
@uhhhhh262 4 года назад
Speed holes, enables you to draw faster
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад
Maybe a few made for revolvers. None of the automatics of the time would have been able to go bang, even if they were carried with a round in the chamber.
@LifeisGood762
@LifeisGood762 4 года назад
Well that's pretty neat. A modern kydex holster puts retention using a very similar method.
@mitchlovesgames7281
@mitchlovesgames7281 4 года назад
I have a Colt 1903 in .32, its a real doozy absolutely beautiful. I often wonder why the airforce kept issuing .38 revolvers to pilots and paid money to design lighter sidearms for crew. A Colt 1908 in .380 would be great for that role and is in my opinion the ideal compact handgun and holds up even today. I wish they would modernize it with a +P rating.
@clothar23
@clothar23 4 года назад
I never understood the whole giving a pilot a wimpy cartridge. I have no problem sitting and moving around in tight spaces with a 9mm handgun while carrying a few spare mags.
@Ashcrash82
@Ashcrash82 4 года назад
The only problem with that is the issue of HP ammo. I have both the 1903 and the 1908. Both are great, my favorite pistols that I own. However, the 1908 has significant difficulty feeding hollow point ammo. The sharp front edge of the bullet just doesn't slide up the feed ramp well. I suppose some serious ramp polishing could help, but since I don't plan on using it for defensive purposes, I just switched back to FMJ 380s.
@mitchlovesgames7281
@mitchlovesgames7281 4 года назад
@@Ashcrash82 Yeah the older guns were never really made for hollow points
@kennethquesenberry2610
@kennethquesenberry2610 3 года назад
A holster like that, and I think there were similar designs, leaves a distinctive mark on the trigger guard, in the same way that a holster will cause wear around the muzzle.
@infamousfalcon588
@infamousfalcon588 4 года назад
Early. Sleek pistol. And a wallet-looking holster.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 4 года назад
The best channel for the metallic snaps/clicks/beards and long hair on RU-vid.
@leondillon8723
@leondillon8723 4 года назад
5:07)I read the book more than 50 years ago. 5:32)Some of the OSS agents went on to HOLLYWOOD & became famous actors. Josephine Baker was already so famous, she operated as herself. An Overt covert agent. None of the German intelligence agencies ever suspected her. Julia Child worked in the Pacific. I didn't understand why she used the name Culinary Institute of America (CIA). Maybe it was a message to the other CIA? The Colt is referred to as the Hammerless & The General Officers' Model.
@iainsmith6643
@iainsmith6643 4 года назад
Very nice
@andrewpiegzik4121
@andrewpiegzik4121 4 года назад
Alot of Safariland holsters use a pin in the trigger guard to retain the pistol. only difference is they don't require you to put your finger in the trigger guard to release it.
@samcarroll4584
@samcarroll4584 4 года назад
The safariland designs index off of the ejection port for their ALS line up. The serpa uses the trigger guard
@peewee102100
@peewee102100 4 года назад
On the 1903 with the frame safety on, and also having to engage the grip safety, and with having to adjust your grip, I would feel reasonably safe with the holster. Wouldn't do it on a striker gun!
@tombrown8800
@tombrown8800 4 года назад
Ian , liked you gave a shout out to Hall's book. Read it as a teenager. Cool to see it was his holster. Folks in comments are freaked about the exposed trigger guard , before 1970 most holsters did this. Not saying it's a good idea , but most important safety is use your brain. Any below average individual can circumvent any safety ever disigned if he/she just applies themselves.
@OldManMontgomery
@OldManMontgomery 9 месяцев назад
Modern vs "Old" safety standards. Part of training 'back then' was to not activate the trigger until firing. That worked for any sort of handgun as long as the person drawing the sidearm understood the concept and controlled his or her finger. I have seen premature discharges with modern holsters not allowing access to the trigger (including full flap holsters). There are far more dim bulbs being taken into 'police' type service than ever.
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee Год назад
This is a lot safer than the clamshell type holsters used by police in California into the 1980s and beyond. Those also required the trigger finger to depress a button inside the trigger guard, but with a far worse "retention" system than this holster's simple lever pressing the front of the trigger guard. You can find videos of the "speed safety holster" on youtube. It has to be seen to be believed.
@MVDVM
@MVDVM 4 года назад
Hey just a little thing to help. Love the holster videos as an old west shooter and horseman. Proper term for “horse equipment” would be the word tack. It’s a term we use to describe everything you strap on a horse form saddle to bridle. Just figured I’d try and help.
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 4 года назад
Very cool design. And the provenance is like whipped cream and a cherry on a chocolate shake!
@rogerlibby14613
@rogerlibby14613 4 года назад
If you are able to look at some of Paris Theodor's Seventrees holsters (for spooks) this safety holster seems quite "tame".
@ben501st
@ben501st 4 года назад
Safety standards were lax back then. Also 20s safety standards: grip safety, mag safety, manual safety, single action only, shrouded hammer.
@axelord4ever
@axelord4ever 4 года назад
I always like to imagine what people who were contemporary to the thing being shown and talked about would react if they could watch the video, or at least hear the audio or even read a transcript. It's my favorite _what-if_ fantasy. I wonder what Audley would have to say about Ian waxing the (de)merits of his holster.
@scotte2815
@scotte2815 4 года назад
must get that book
@bryanmartin2271
@bryanmartin2271 2 года назад
You also have to push the lemon squeeze on the back before it will fire so other that marring the inside of the trigger gaurd it was a damm good idea
@xxheartbrokexx100
@xxheartbrokexx100 4 года назад
This is great
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