Most people miss, that when Anakin and Obi-wan are both spinning their lightsabers, it's not just "For show". Flourishing in combat, is a way to bait your opponent into attacking you, when they THINK you have your guard down, for boasting. Both of them, same training, despite different fighting styles, have done the same bait, at the same time.
its about showing anakin knowing exactly what obiwan is going to do and obiwan being too defensive to decide to make an aggressive strike. its a flex on anakins part showing he knows obiwan wont kill him
It was actually Obi Wan trolling Anakin. Obi Wan: If I think about doing this, Anakin will. [thinks about it] Anakin: [does the thing] Obi Wan: [does it to goad him]
"His fate will be the same as ours!" Dying on a Death Star! "Hello there!" was Alec Guinness's first line in the original movie, so was already an "Obi-wan thing".
The Death Star thing. Holy shit, I've seen this movie a dozen times and never once did I put that together. Anakin, Oni-Wan, Palpatine. Every one of them died on a Death Star. Amazing catch.
The Emperor letting Vader think he killed her causes him to hate himself more than he could hate anything else. It helps seal him to his change to the dark side. Self Hatred and Loathing is what helps to make Vader that much more powerful.
I see this a lot and I agree to point. However he did force choke her and, and after hearing just a fraction of what of he did she lost the will to live. All of that is down to Anakin and the things he did to her: directly and indirectly. Anakin did in fact cause her death
@@yomama629 there could be all sort of theories, but there's nothing in the movies to support that one, not that I am aware of? But there is plenty of evidence that she lost the will to live, since that's what we were told. And we saw him force choke a pregnant woman into unconsciousness for ourselves. I don't think it's possible to disprove fan theories; in that sense pretty much anything *could* be possible. Cheers!
@@ajmeyers5661 agreed, we can't know for sure. At the end of the day it was Palpatine who deceived Anakin and used his anxieties against him, so it's hard to fully blame the latter regardless
Anakin promised his mother he wouldn't fail to save a loved one again. Only upon seeing Luke suffering, crying out for him just like Shmi and Padme did, did Anakin snap out of it and succeed, saving his son by killing the Emperor and fulfilling the prophecy.
@@brandonrogers9007 he wasn't Anakin at that point. He was completely gone at that point and only Vader remained. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
both separatists, republic and the jedi were all tools for the chancelor to assume power. The war between them were all made by the chancelor... both darth maul and count dooku were just simple pawns in his game. its so sad seeing yoda feeling the deaths of all his friends 😢
They were all pawns to Palpatine... including the Jedi order. Palpatine had them dancing like puppets and fighting his battles for him. He was consistently about 5 steps ahead of them from day one. If you really think about it, it's highly unlikely that Palpatine could have risen to power without the Jedi's help. And looking back to when the original orders for the clone army were placed, Palpatine could see the future and began putting the pieces in motion in 42BBY... about a year before Anakin was even born. And lets not forget Anakin's "miraculous" birth... another cunning orchestration of Palpatine (and perhaps Darth Plagueis, who many sources suggest was killed in 40BBY about a year after the birth of Anakin in 41BBY). So it's likely that Sidious was using Plagueis for his power, and got rid of him once he was no longer useful. He drained Padme's life to save Vader's life... ensuring there would be nothing good in the life of his new apprentice to draw him away from the dark side. This is why Yoda finally realized what a danger the children were... not to Vader but to the emperor. The children were the keys to turning Anakin back, and Anakin was the only one capable of taking out the emperor.
For what it's worth, the ancient sith were furious with him. This was NOT their plan. Their plan was for the people to turn to the sith instead of the Jedi, instead palpy STILL kept his identity hidden and their ;grand empire' that was meant to last 10000 years last just over 2 decades because Palpys own greed blinded him to the dangers. He was an utter embarresment to the ancient sith like Bane. He cared nothing for the teaching of the sith, or for making them stronger. He only cared about his own power and taught vader practically nothing of sith philosophy or their secrets. He turned their grand plan into a personal tool for himself, not for the sith.
I think another very interesting detail is that the chancellor made sure most of the Separatists were non-human species. Obviously some non-humans still exist and have influence in the Empire, but it is *significantly* more human-centric than either the Republic or the later Rebellion, which are much more diverse. The Empire is like many historical authoritarian states in that way.
Regarding the yellow eyes: the yellow eyes represent the full dive into the Dark Side. A complete devotion to passion and power. Notice how Palpatine's eyes are yellow after he killed Mace Windu, and for the rest of the film. That is his true eye color, that he has been masking this entire trilogy. No Jedi? No need to hide anymore.
@KventinCompsonnope. Anakin is the chosen one. The chosen one prophecy has nothing to do with the movies. They go into detail in the clone wars tv show.
It was his love for his son that brought him back to the light and that promise he kept to himself at his mother's grave that he would never let that happen again.
eh, only in the most literalist and least used interpretations of the Code. Jedi tend to think of each other as family and love each other as family. They have to be able to set that aside for duty's sake but there's a lot of love in the Jedi Order if you pay attention to their interactions, hell Legends Yoda calls out a Padawan on this point with this section from the novel Dark Rendezvous "Teach me about pain, think you can?" Yoda said softly. "Think the old Master cannot care, mmm? Forgotten who I am, have you? Old am I, yes. Mm. Loved more than you, have I, Padawan. Lost more. Hated more. Killed more." The green eyes narrowed to gleaming slits under heavy lids. Dragon eyes, old and terrible. "Think wisdom comes at no cost? The dark side, yes - it is easier for them. The pain grows too great, and they eat the darkness to flee from it. Not Yoda. Yoda loves and suffers for it, loves and suffers." One could have heard a feather hit the floor. "The price of Yoda's wisdom, high it is, very high, and the cost goes on forever. But teach me about pain, will you?"
hmm don't think that's right. attachment and possession is forbidden. Anakin himself said Jedi are encouraged to love , compassion is essential to their teachings
@@ccam7802 there was a whole compartment of the ordeeer on Coruscant full of jedi having lovers, children and partners without falling for the dark side. why didn't they? Because they learned that losing loved ones to death is part of the circle of life and be preparedfor it, as Yoda said to Anakin. They were "these guys" when you ask the main order, but they were accepted. Source: Republic Commando 4: Order 66
He says he loved him, but he didn't cry. He's clearly in pain, but he is blaming himself for everything, that's why he's not enraged towards everyone else like Anakin. I think that self-pity is what's actually braking the Jedi code.
In deeper Star Wars lore..the emperor was pretty pissed about Vader losing that battle and becoming completely crippled. But he kind of doesn’t have a ton of options at this point lol
Did you miss the sarcasm when Darth Sideous said, “He will take care of you?” In the US it’s an expression that can have sinister undertones by one’s tone of voice.
Palpatine telling Vader that he killed Padme basically breaks him, it puts him under his power forever because he has no-one else, he believes his child (He didn't know it was twins at the time) died with her, so he gave up everything to save her and was told he killed her, so it was all pointless and he has no-one else but Palpatine.
HE does at one point gain a friend. An imperial officer who is ambushed by rebels with him, he expected the officer to hide behind him and let him take out the rebels, but was shocked to find himstanding alongside him, firing back, trying to protect vader. He asks the officer why eh joined the millitary and he responds by saying he was a family man and wanted to provide for his wife and children. After this incident, the officer proves his loyalty again and again, claiming he is only doing what any other officer would do. Over time, the two actually for a friendship until they are ambushed by Palpys assasins. The officer is struck by an exploding gas pipe and suffers severe burns. this sends vader into a rage and when the assassins are dealt with vader uses the force to dull the pain of his friend. Fortunatly, this officer survives, thought is forced into early retirement - but finds a sizable number of credits from an unknown source in his account when he does... :)
@@Whoami691 he also, at one point, encounters his old childhood friends Kitster and Wald and saves their lives. And then rides the podracer that the two had been building.
He did it mainly to put him in never-ending guilt and and shame state, which puts him under total control, as the person living in deep shame and self-hate would never rise up against anything, like his "dark master". Such person is "dead" inside and becomes just a living shell and a pawn
I don't know if you thought about it, but when the chancellor (later emporer) was talking about Darth Plageous being killed while he slept, he was actually recalling what he did to his Sith master. He was the apprentice.
@ShavayD a few books and comics before the Disney buyout confirm that, yes Palpatine was Plagius's apprentice. In fact, Plagius was apparently still alive in Phantom Menace.
The novelization of this movie by Matthew Stover (which is *fantastic* by the way) has Commander Cody think something along the lines of, "Would it have been too much to ask for the Order to have come in ~~before~~ I handed him back his bloody lightsaber?!"
@@DarthRayj Yes! I've read it like 18 years ago and I still remember that line! Thinking back now I don't really get his complaint though. It's not like the lightsaber made any difference while the AT-TE blasted him from afar. :D
@@starlighter93 I think it was probably more of a "well, it would have been nice if he had actually been disarmed for us so we could have just shot him ourselves" kind of thing. Even Obi-Wan probably wouldn't have stood much chance against a bunch of clones without his lightsaber, and then they could have confirmed the kill and not had to resort to *artillery cannons* to try and kill him.
"Hello There," is the first line Obi'Wan says in the original trilogy that is why it is so iconic when he states it here and why so many fans associate the quote with him. Great reaction, glad you are a fan now. I would recommend watching the animated series " The Clone Wars."
So normally Anakin wouldn't be too bothered about not getting the title of Master alongside his council seat. But the reason he was mad about it is because the title of Master would have granted him access to the archives where he could find restricted knowledge that he could use to save Padme. And in the clone wars series there were a few times where the council betrayed his trust as well. So at this point his trust in the jedi had nearly been shattered and it was the perfect opportunity for Palpatine to goad him to his side. Palpatine knew the council would deny him that promotion because of how arrogant they had been lately as well. We hate him but his tactics were brilliant By the way you will learn more about the clones in the clone wars series
@@christianfaux736 You see they couldn't fit enough into the movies but the novelization and canon comics give more insight into why Anakin was so upset with the council. The restricted section held a lot of knowledge about the dark and light side and he would be sure to find answers there. A way to potentially save Padme had just been cut off for him and that made him more desperate. And Palpatine preyed on the piled up distrust he had for the council and his desperation. There was a lot that had to be cut from the movie for run time. In a hypothetical alternate timeline he could have found what he needed if the Council just decided to trust him just once because they had a track record of betraying his trust by now. If not an advanced form of Force heal then he would stumble across records of a sith ability to manipulate dreams and put two and two together
32:48 the fact mace windu said “you will have gained my trust” means to anakin that he never had his or even the councils trust to begin with, which just made the decision that much harder
he did say "it is too late for me son" for a reason, he knows he did horrible things as anakin skywalker and being vader was him "drinking" from the dark side to cope with it so when he does come back it is to do at least 1 thing right, he lost everything before and he will sacrifice his life for his son he will give up his life of misery for the best day of his life
@@yoda9188 no he was blown up by dooku and dooku tricked him into thinking the jedi did it which is why he hates the jedi so much. thats whats canon. mace doing it is legends
I have no problem admitting that the dialogue writing in the prequels are a bit clumsy and weird at times but there are some banger lines too. When Anakin saves Obi-Wan and tell the Chancellor that "his fate will be the same as ours". All 3 of them ended up dying on a Death Star. That's just so great.
Lucas was an incredible world builder and story teller, but wrote very, VERY, average dialogue. HC’s performance was criticized more for that than what he brought to the role… which was exceptional.
I agree mate. I've seen lots of vids and BTS stuff Hayden giving different versions of the same lines and obviously they picked the one they liked more. Hw played Anakin perfectly...a confused horny teenager with a God syndrome and a super complex backstory ( he was a slave ffs ). He was neither a great writer, nor was he a good director but he had an incredible vision and I loved the storylines a lot.
Qui Gonn spirit taught Obi Wan to become a force ghost, (at the end of the movie Yoda said to Obi that someone returned from the netherworld of the force). In all those years in solitude in Tatooine Obi Wan learnt it. That´s why he told Vader in episode IV: "if you strike me down, I´ll become more powerful that you can possibly imagine".
Lol im so desensitized to the emotions of this. Ive seen this 1000 times. Shes here crying her eyes out and im laughing at all the memes in this movie XD🎉
1:01:32 Some dictators truly believe in bringing peace but I think Palpatine knows that he doesn’t care about peace only about holding power over everyone.
Grievous beeing a Cyborg was the plan of sidious to make him the supreame leader of the sepretist army and a jedi killer trained through Dooku. Their destroyed his body through a bomb at his shuttle, than there make him believe that the jedi are responsible for that. That`s why had become this cruel machine.
General Grevous was able to cough because he was not a robot, as you thought at the time. He was a cyborg, as Anikin would become after he was christened Darth Vader. So General Grevous actually did have lungs.
Something that was pointed out to me I never noticed is that Obi-Wan was anticipating Anakin's attempted leap over maneuver because it's EXACTLY how he cut Darth Maul in half. His entire journey as Anakin's master really began and ended with the same technique, accept he was on different ends of the attack both times.
In my opinion, empire strikes back to me is the saddest point of the sequel. Because anakin was a hero then turned and was SO ARROGANT Vader wanted that millennium falcon ship without ANY excuses and killed any imperial officer who failed to meet his orders, but after the fight with him and Luke on cloud city, he was so heartbroken he couldn’t even bother killing officers.
It is a sad movie. :) It's interesting that Yoda and Obi-Wan have apparently given up on Anakin (and still feel that way in IV, V and VI). But Luke believes in his father, and Anakin does eventually save the day, as you have seen.
Count Dooku's Sith title is Darth Tyrannus. This is mentioned only once by Jango Fett when he tells Obi-Wan who hired him in episode 2. Dooku did not reveal he was a Sith and used his title as a count to bring in more systems to his cause.
@@AwakeningComics Yeah it's perfectly fine that she didn't think much about the line. Most people don't pick up on all the little things like that the first time they watch a movie.
Anakin and Obi-Wan were definitely not evenly matched. The whole fight has Obi-Wan on the back foot. When they match Force Pushes, you can see Obi-Wan’s fingers slowly bending backwards. Anakin’s Force Push is stronger. The biggest sign is right before the high ground, when Obi-Wan starts talking with “I have failed you, Anakin.” Obi-Wan is completely gassed, out of breath, sweating profusely. But Anakin is breathing normally, not even sweating. Obi-Wan knows he can’t beat him normally. He has to trick him through Anakin’s arrogance. He goaded Anakin to jump over him, making him briefly vulnerable.
Obi Wan did not trick anakin, he was the more skillful combatant. He knew anakins pride and arrogance would lead him to underestimate his former master. And Obi Wan even dispatched him with the Sith technique mou kei. Power does not overcome skill.
Vader was technically stronger but all duel he couldn't even break Kenobi's defense his strikes were more aggressive and stronger but again Obi-Wan was a master of defensive combat and he trained Vader so he knew him well
R2 knows the entire story and been there since the beginning. C-3PO mind was wiped so that explains why he didn’t remember but R2 knows everything. Palatine was master manipulator orchestrating the war from both sides as well as influencing Anakin. At the same time the Jedi had lost there way, had become arrogant and constantly giving Anakin poor advice pushing him away. Anakin won many battles yet the council wouldn’t let him move to master.
How Hayden Christensen, Ewan McGreggor, Natalie Portman, and Ian McDiarmid elevate George Lucas middling dialogue. They really squeeze the most out of some truly hackneyed lines.
That lightsaber collection was made up of close to 30 different blades many of which were taken after Grevious destroyed the Jedi that originally owned the blade. He also had a few far older than the events of episodes 1-3 like Darth Zanna's double bladed lightsaber. She was the apprentice of Darth Bane the Sith lord who established the rule of two 1,000 years before the events of episode 1.
The Emperor absolutely manipulated Anakin, but the Jedi failed Anakin at every possible turn. All Anakin HAS is the Jedi code, and the Jedi ignoring it and asking him to spy on the only person he can be truly honest with is a huge moment. He seeks out advice and guidance about his fears of losing Padme, and is basically told to get over it. When he kills Dooku, Palpatine says, "He was too dangerous to be left alive," And when Mace Windu is about to kill Palpatine, he says the same thing, so for Anakin, what's the difference?
I think that was the point. That the Jedi were too arrogant and that's why Anakin needed Qui-Gon's guidance in order to grow into a better Jedi. Obi-Wan was also arrogant but grew wiser in his old age while his arrogance rubbed off onto Anakin. Despite the Jedi failing Anakin, I feel like once Palpatine reveals himself, that should've set Anakin straight as it validates all of the Jedi's concerns given that he is literally the most powerful government figure in the galaxy. It just feels like more context is missing from Anakin's downfall.
36:00 All the Sith names in these movies are based on words that bring to mind something bad. Darth Maul is pretty self explanatory, as getting mauled is pretty violent. Count Dooku was Darth Tyranis, like tyranny, Palpatine is Darth Sidious, like insidious, and Darth Vader is like 'invader', leaving off the 'in' like Sidious does. It's fitting for the moment since his first task as a Sith is to invade the Jedi temple.
Anakin wasn’t the apprentice until he was named Darth Vader. You can’t be an apprentice without knowing it. It’s an act of volition. However, it was all part of Palpatine’s life-long plan to groom Anakin in being a Sith.
the fun part is vader never lies in this movie. also yes palpatine was controling both sides and neither knew. in one of the novels the chancellor has an aide who is working for sideous and thinks he's betraying the chancellor not knowing they're the same person
36:07 the slight pause Palpatine did was actually him "listening" to the force, as it interceded his thoughts as he was about to name Anakin. so palpatine didnt name him personally, the Force chose Anakin's new identity. This is backed up by the revenge of the sith novelization by Patricia C Wrede, but i could again be wrong as its been years since ive read through it fully
Oh, I would 100% recommend reading the novelization by Matthew Stover as well, it's (imo) much better written. But yes, that's the implication in his novelization too, that the name flowed from the Dark Side.
You asked how can General Grievous cough if he's a robot. Well, he's actually a cyborg. He didn't always look that. He was a very fearsome warrior and war criminal until his body was one day damaged beyond repair. What parts of his body that could be salvaged and saved; his eyes, organs, brain, mouth, and some facial skin tissue were put into a mechanical body that was very much stronger than his original body. Count Dooku trained him in lightsabre combat and applied it to his already very effective battle strategies and strong fighting skills.
Im so glad you realized something most people miss. Alot of people hate on Yoda for his advice to just let go. You realized Yoda was right!! If Anakin just unclenched a bit Padme would survive. He wouldnt have turned and the Jedi and Republic would survive. He would get to retire and raise the twins. Instead he lost everything.
I think that is great thing they pulled off with this movie and why its often hailed as either the best or second best Star Wars movie. We all know Anakin is destine to become Vader and evil yet despite this we still have this weird hope that some how he makes the right choice in end.
Hayden Christensen was totally under-appreciated for his portrayal of Anakin back when those movies came out. Mostly because of oldschool-die-hard fans which couldnt really get out of their comfortzone and had a narrowed in view of how Star Wars should look like, and be told like. Im now a little over 30 so i grew up with these Star Wars movies. I loved them back then, and even more now. There are lots of formidable performances in terms of acting. I think Lucas' dialogue is sometimes very cheesy and cringey, and given that the actors really made the best of it. McGregor, Christensen and Portman really delivered. Anakins gutteral "I hate you" at the end is bonechilling to me to this day. How he gurgles and forces it out, quivering, and almost crying with all these emotions. Its one of the very few performances of hatred that i believed so far.
I'm actually about 50, but I was never one of those who disliked the prequels. I actually really like them, and so does my dad (who is 91). We just don't like the Disney stuff
This is a really fantastic reaction! I love being able to experience the movies again with new people. Around 57:45 "why would the emperor even want him anymore?" A broken Vader actually works out much better for the emperor. Sith apprentices had been rising up and killing their masters for a thousand years, and the most powerful Sith of all time at his full potential would have eventually become a big problem for him. Vader's armor significantly restricted his movement, and his electrical breathing apparatus ensured that he would be vulnerable to Palpatine's Force lightning if he ever became a problem. You're also onto something with Anakin's resentment toward Obi-Wan. Anakin knew all about Obi-Wan's duel with Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace, including how he defeated him. Anakin likely would have won the duel on Mustafar if he had been able to control his pride, but he insisted on jumping over Obi-Wan to kill him the way Obi-Wan defeated Maul, in order to prove once and for all he was the superior of the two.
In the novelization there was a scene where Anakin and Padme were talking about the baby. They both didn't know it was twins. Padme kept saying "He" telling him her mother's intuition told her he was a boy. Anakin put his hand on her belly and the baby kicked against his hand and he said "With kicks like that it's definitely a girl."
Darth's last names are usually based on bad things such as Maul for well Maul/Mauling, Tyranus for Tyranny, Sidious for Insidious, Plagueis for Plague, and Vader for Invader
Awesome video and reaction! I think your emotional response was indeed justified, and there are a lot of Star Wars fans (including myself) who had a similar reaction. This movie is dark in so many ways due in large part to how Palpatine manipulated Anakin into turning away from everything he understood to be right. He embraced greed and a lust for power and lost sight of compassion and selflessness. Thank you for sharing your experience with this movie!👍
When Luke approached his father in Episode VI, Vader himself said "it is too late for me, son". He knew what crimes he had committed, and that he was nothing more than a puppet to the Emperor. Albeit a powerful one. Anakin's fear to lose the ones he loves is what made the Jedi suspicious of him all the time, and it is the same string Palpatine played his tunes on to gaslight Anakin.
My favorite scene was a deleted one when Obi-wan speaks to Padme and confesses that he has always known: “I am not blind, Padmé. Though I have tried to be, for Anakin’s sake. And for yours. Anakin has loved you since the day you met, in that horrible junk shop on Tatooine. He’s never even tried to hide it, though we do not speak of it. We... pretend that I don’t know. And I was happy to, because it made him happy. You made him happy, when nothing else ever truly could.”
This line is definitely in the Matthew Stover novelization. Which makes sense, because the novel was written based off of the script, before the movie was edited. I really love the novelization though, and would highly recommend it to anyone who likes reading! There's another RotS novelization too, but I'd only count Stover's version among my favorite literary works.
When Darth sidious was getting hit by the force lightning it didn't turn him scared,over time when you use the dark side it corrupts your appearance,he was using his force powers to disguise himself and made it look like the Jedi did this to him. Their were 10,000 Jedi spread around the galaxy a few survive
That is not what happened. The novelization describes it essentially like Palpatine was giving it all he had to not get killed, trusting that Anakin would come to his aid. The book details the melting of his flesh and softening of his bones, as the lightning incinerated him from the inside out. He was in excruciating pain, but willing to tolerate or die, if necessary, as he waited for his new apprentice to save him. The price of using the dark side showed itself in ROTJ as Palp's body had become rigid and inflexible, while his mind was pushed further into a corrupted state of insanity.
Stop posting that bullshit. Using dark side itself does nothing to your appearance. Look at Darth Maul and Dooku. Both look well. Palpatines skin was just fried by lightning.
This is a quote from the Revenge of the Sith novel, it really adds to this whole movie. "This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever: The first dawn of light in your universe brings pain. The light burns you. It will always burn you. Part of you will always lie upon black glass sand beside a lake of fire while flames chew upon your flesh. You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down. You don't even have lungs anymore. Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream forever. Lord Vader? Lord Vader, can you hear me? And you can't, not in the way you once did. Sensors in the shell that prisons your head trickle meaning directly into your brain. You open your scorched-pale eyes; optical sensors integrate light and shadow into a hideous simulacrum of the world around you. Or perhaps the simulacrum is perfect, and it is the world that is hideous. Padme? Are you here? Are you all right? you try to say, but another voice speaks for you, out from the vocabulator that serves you for burned-away lips and tongue and throat. "Padme? Are you here? Are you all right?" I'm very sorry, Lord Vader. I'm afraid she died. It seems in your anger, you killed her. This burns hotter than the lava had. "No... no, it is not possible!" You loved her. You will always love her. You could never will her death. Never. But you remember... You remember all of it. You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth- And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker. That it was all you. Is you. Only you. You did it. You killed her. You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself... It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith- Because now your self is all you will ever have. And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself - And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker . . . Forever . . ."
I really love this novelization. This is the one by Matthew Stover, to be clear. It was written based on the script before the movie was edited, so it has a lot more detail and I don't remember if it's considered fully canon or if it had points where it differed slightly from the movie. It gives you glimpses inside every one of the main characters heads that feel perfectly in character, and actually help make sense of a lot of the points that feel kind of weird or off in the movie.
So, Darth Plagueis was Master, he was killed by his Apprentice, Darth Sidious, because the Rule of Two is that Apprentices kill Masters to take power, but it can go the opposite way, if the Master wins that fight. Sidious became Master, and his Accolyte (Darth Maul) was left to go mad on a trash planet, while Sidious took Dooku as Apprentice, Darth Tyrannus. Tyrannus took an Accolyte, who Sidious told him to kill, so she kriffed off to do her own thing. Dooku gets killed by Anakin on Palpatine's insistence, and eventually Palpatine reveals to Anakin he is Sidious, while offering Anakin the power to save Padmé's life. Anakin becomes Apprentice, Darth Vader, still loses Padmé, not knowing Luke and Leia were born. Vader was burnt and lost limbs, and Sidious put him in the suit. Not having anything to live for except teh Dark, Vader became the Emperor's enforcer, leading the Inquisitors hunting Jedi who survived Order 66. This carries on for the next 20 years, until Boba Fett brings him back the name of the pilot who made the shot that destroyed the Death Star... and it is Skywalker. Thus he believes Luke is the solution to taking down Sidious, but he is still very deep in the Dark Side, so he believes the only way is for Luke to Fall. He thinks that right up until he is faced with Luke being tortured and the prospect of Luke's death, when he turns on Sidious, and comes back to the Light, for his son, killing Sidious and finall6 fulfilling the prophecy. Anakin may have Fallen because of his Attachment to his wife and prospective child, but Attachment also saved him, coming back to save Luke, and he died in the Light, which allowed him to become a Force Ghost (and around 6-7 years later act as a guide for Ahsoka on a vision quest, and watch over her and Sabine).
Hearing Obi Wan say "I loved you." always gets me. Jedi aren't supposed to love. Obi Wan always wanted to be the ideal jedi and follow the code as closely as possible, but he couldn't help loving Anakin as his brother.
Anakin wasn't "brainwashed". He made a choice, several choices. Also Anakin was the chosen one, not Luke. Anakin brought balance when he killed Palpatine.
He made choices. Yes. But he wasn’t given proper guidance and tools to make sound decisions under emotional pressure. The Jedi forced him to free himself of emotions and never helping him navigate through them, it’s not how they taught. Sidious only gave him lessons that he could manipulate to his own gains and keep Anakin weak and a slave. Funny how his hold and refusal to let go of his emotions is what ultimately saved his son, also freeing him and the galaxy.
This is a profound philosofical question: Do we made choices? If every choice is based in information, who control information can influence every choice. Is there free will? These are hard questions. If there is free will, you can never bring the influencer to justice, despite him being the responsible for people making bad choices. But if there is no free will, then people could not make any choice that defies the collectivity, and the collectivity may also be influenced by bad leadership. Free will leads to individual punishment, sometimes very harsh. Not free will leads to reeducation, often with political agenda, sometimes gulags or concentration camps.
I've wondered if Order 66 was part of the grand design of balancing the Force. Maybe hundreds of Jedi and 0 Sith isn't "balanced" either. After Vader kills Palpatine, there's only 1 Jedi left, who's not quite like the previous Jedi, who has emotions and never told to suppress them, who's dressed in all black like a Sith, but has reason, compassion, and forgiveness in his heart. Maybe Luke is the "Balance" that Anakin brought. (if you pretend the sequel trilogy doesn't exist)
I always love all of the prequels no matter what and that includes Revenge Of The Sith. It's ironic that love doomed Anakin and then love eventually saved Anakin. Thanks for reacting to this film.
R2 knows EVERYTHING! Edit- Thank you for stopping the film when you talk about certain things. It keeps you from missing things. Edit 2- I made the comment before you said it in the reaction!
It’s actually the dark side itself that “brainwashed” Anakin. Palpatine simply used Anakins weaknesses against him to get him to open himself up to the dark side. To let it into his mind. The force is not a passive thing. The Jedi invite the light side to guide them and their actions. The Sith think that they are using the dark side’s power for their own ends but in reality, once they start to use it, it influences their actions to the point where it ultimately controls them. Something not mentioned in the movies is that the high level Sith Lords use the force to influence every underling under their control to keep them all on the same page. In reality this is also the dark side of the force working through its high level adherents to exert control over its minions. That part of the reason the empire troops etc were so savage toward the inhabitants of the galaxy. They didn’t just rule, they oppressed, they terrorised. And also the reason Vader could not just turn back when he found out about his children. It took the near death of his son right in front of him to give him the strength to break his mind free. If you read the novel of the Revenge of the Sith movie it gives so much awesome insight into this stuff. Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin because he fully gave himself up to the force to direct his actions. He was the ultimate Jedi that Abakin never could be because Anakin could never give up his desire to control things. The influence of the dark side.
Many informative comments on this video, but this may be the most insightful. Kudos 👏 Very true descriptions of the Jedi and Sith, and their devotion to their respective sides of the Force. As Qui-Gon said, "Your focus determines your reality." I too love Obi-wan's complete devotion to the light; at times (especially in the book) it bordered on childlike. On Invisible Hand I think it was even implied he experienced a state of Oneness with the Force.
True with one single exception. Revan. He is the only being in history who could use the dark side without succumbing to it. He constantly flicked between light and dark and understood the force in a way nobody else ever has. He was unique, the true embodiments of the forcein balance. It;s raw power, it's will, its... everything. If anakin was chosen by the force then Revan was it's very heart.
You're right to a point when it comes to premonitions. They can be self fulfilling depending on how the person reacts to the premonition. In Anakin's situation, yea, his choices and actions made the premonition come true.
19:50 Yes he has but the Jedi Council themselves asking him to go against the code is nothing short of hypocrisy on their part. Hence why I’ve always felt that if Qui-Gon hadn’t died in the Duel of the Fates against Darth Maul…Anakin could’ve had a master who understood him better as Qui-Gon wasn’t so much stickler to the Jedi Code as the others
Typical mistake. Qui-gon guidance would bring Anakin to the dark side just quicker. Look at Dooku. There was no chance to Anakine to become proper jedi.
@@iscariot2180 I disagree. But you are by no means wrong. I’ve watched many videos about your theory as well as mine. And in the end I choose to believe Qui Gon would have been the perfect Master for Anakin and would have reshaped the Jedi order and its teachings, bringing them into a new era. Not a proper Jedi, but a better form of Jedi.
@@zingyzippo9713 the difference is that yours is theory but mine is Canon. The simple thing that you qui-qon idealizers understood nothing in Star Wars.
Not to mention in the OT if my memory from childhood serves me correctly, the emperor is credited as “Emperor Palpatine”. I remember this since I was in second grade before the prequels came out. So when the prequels did come out the second the name “Chancellor Palpatine” was mentioned I knew he was the emperor. I didn’t know it was supposed to be some shocking “I am your father” moment.
I love when people are so taken in the story :P Believe me, watching the prequels and sequels makes watching the Obi-Wan Kenobi series hurt a lot more where that came from
21:38 Actually no…it wasn’t Luke but Anakin. He did bring balance to the force…just not in the way the Jedi read it. Before Anakin became Darth Vader…the Jedi were too much powerful in comparison to the Siths and the Dark side. Anakin turning to Vader and then destroying the Jedi Order under Sidious brought the Jedi and the Siths to the same level. But once the Dark Side became too much power as the Empire…Vader turned back into Anakin and killed the Emperor/Sidious…thus restoring the balance again
Balance doesn't actually mean having too much sith or Jedi. Bringing balance to the force just means getting rid of the evil in the universe, so too much Jedi isn't the problem it's only the sith.
@@jamesonyamato1455No it depends on how many people use that particular side of the force or how strong the users are… Many strong light side users will cause the force to create stronger dark sider users and the cycle continues… True balance would be everyone mastering both sides
@@LordDarshdan "Which brings us up to the films 4, 5, and 6, in which Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe... Which proves that balance does not mean equal number of Sith and Jedi." A direct quote from george lucas during the commentary of a new hope
@@jamesonyamato1455 Then how do dark sider users continue to appear in Disney’s universe as well as George’s eu verse… Whenever there is too many or too strong light or dark users a counter force is created to achieve balance
@@LordDarshdan We can think of the Force as a body and the Light Side as the immune system. Then, consider the Dark Side as a virus. While our bodies are constantly under siege by harmful viruses, just because there is strife doesn't mean it will kill us or maim us permanently. That is balance: the viruses still exist and attack our bodies, but the immune system will keep them at bay. But the viruses still want the whole deal, and some will be more effective at killing us than others. If we only adhere to Anakin being the Chosen One, then he was the only one who killed off the head virus and allowed the immune system to return and keep fighting. If we consider the prophecy to apply to multiple people, then they just fight off the infection and return the galaxy to its normal state of having the light side always fend off evil. Personally, I look at the prophecy as destroying the Banite Sith.
Love this movie, but that "You shall be known as Darth Vader" line riles me up so much. It means nothing to anyone but the audience haha. It would have been so much better if Palpatine had said "The Ancient Scrolls have long prophesized the emergence of the chosen one - Darth... Vader..."
I like the way it's described in the Matthew Stover novelization. Sidious pauses because he's waiting for the Dark Side to inspire a name for his new apprentice, with the implication being that all Sith are renamed this way when they're taken as apprentices.
Yeah......this one is a "gut-punch." I was emotionally spent after watching this for the first time. Hearing the heartbreak that Obi-Wan was going through kills me EVERY time. When Vader takes his "first" breath, Padme' takes her last. Too much. Now......go watch "Fan Boys". You need a happy/funny movie to watch after this. It's a love-letter to Star Wars fans and takes place before the Prequel Trilogy. Go have a laugh. Your heart needs it now🙂.
So did she watch all 3 prequel movies in the same day? Not sure if I’d recommend that to a first timer as you get no chance to really reflect and ruminate on what you just watched. Or get corrections on incorrect assumptions, or clarification on what’s actually going on in each movie. But to each their own, I guess.
The scene on Tattooine was actually filmed with a small crew while they were filming Episode 2. George Lucas didn't want to have to go back to Tunisia for less than a minute of the last episode.
I don't know if you noticed at the end of Star Wars Episode 1. Palpatine told Anakin "We will watch your career with great interest." Even back then Palpatine showed interest in Anakin and his abilities. Palpatine has been influencing and manipulating Anakin ever since. One thing that I like is that, in a round about way, Luke and Leia have inherited their parents droids (R2-D2 and C-3PO).
