Auto Express Track Battle - Audi RS4 Competition vs BMW M3 Touring Competition

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BMW's new M3 Touring Competition has been hogging the limelight in fast estate circles recently, so keen to show it up Audi have sharpened its RS4 to create its own Competition variant. With less power, but also less weight and stickier rubber, will Audi win retribution? You might think you know how this is going to play out, but the result might surprise you...
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00:00 Intro
00:15 Specs
00:44 BMW impressions
01:16 BMW lap
02:38 Audi impressions
03:32 Audi lap
04:40 Results!

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@lassebauer 5 месяцев назад

Steve testing: great. BMW fanboys melting down in the comments: Priceless.

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

Anyone would complain when their favorite car loses due to weaker tires. And this isn't even speculation, the M3 is faster on every other track I could find.

@randyragy4592 5 месяцев назад

@@xIcarus227 because the BMW used semi slick cup 2's on every other track while the Audi has ran every track on street P Zero Corsa tires lol. Keep in mind we have yet to see a factory Audi driver take the RS4 Competition out on track with Trofeos or Cup 2s.

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

@@randyragy4592 I already answered somewhere else that the Nurburgring run for example was in damp conditions, where the Cup 2 are weak. And we've yet to see a factory BMW driver take the M3 out on track too, so what's the deal? We know how manufacturers like to bend the rules during those record runs, so what's the point? To do a proper comparison you'd need the same driver on the same tires in the same conditions which we're not likely to get.

@randyragy4592 5 месяцев назад

@@xIcarus227 it was not a damp road it was sunny and 19 degrees outside the the track was 29 degrees Celsius.. read the sport auto magazine if you don’t believe me

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

@@randyragy4592 like I told you in the other comment, watch the video. Search for 'sport auto m3 touring' at the top, first video with the obnoxiously green car. Track is wet aside from a few portions. Quit coping and face the facts.

@jamesstanley7263 5 месяцев назад

Tyre choice never gets mentioned in car reviews. This test proves how important it can be

@stefanomarcellino6701 5 месяцев назад

Michelin pilot sport 4s star marked are basically a cup 2

@user-ym9ik9ow3r 5 месяцев назад

Bmw knows better, as the Audi, which tyres are better for their car... Especially when we are talking about M and RS models...

@user-ym9ik9ow3r 5 месяцев назад

BMW knows better, as the Audi, which tyres are better for their car... Especially when we are talking about M and RS models

@jayage1229 5 месяцев назад

@@user-ym9ik9ow3rThey do, which is why they offer optional Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 for track work. I’d like to see apples to apples comparison. Tires are super important on such a tight circuit.

@mountjoy23 5 месяцев назад

@@stefanomarcellino6701 not even close when you look at the tread block design, check out tire reviews side by side test and see the laptime difference between the both.

@steventilley2064 5 месяцев назад

Im an M3 fan boy all day had all versions, Although the B7 RS4 is still my favourite saloon car. The RS4 had been left behind in terms of dynamics over the last few generations and im so glad it has now caught up. Should keep them all at the top of their game 🔥🔥

@dutchschaefer5787 5 месяцев назад

I used to own a B7 RS4 Avant and to this day maybe the favourite car I’ve owned. I can’t put my finger on exactly why that is, it’s probably lots of little reasons really.

@augustortiz 5 месяцев назад

@@dutchschaefer5787 Im willing to bet it might be related to the cylinder count under the hood.

@dutchschaefer5787 5 месяцев назад

@@augustortiz your partly right, the engine is a masterpiece. It’s perfect for the car, how it handles, feels and the noise. A V8 revving to nearly 8500rpm sounds incredible.

@augustortiz 5 месяцев назад

@@dutchschaefer5787 Nothing like that generation of super sedans from 2007-2014 where all of them had N/A V8's/V10's that screamed. The Rs4 was a real beauty of a car and that engine really was amazing.

@x50dawg 5 месяцев назад

Jeremy Clarkson did say the B7 RS4 had one of the best engines ever made...

@boss302eu8 5 месяцев назад

Rs4 looks waay better ..and faster 👌

@randyragy4592 5 месяцев назад

To put into context how much Audi improved the Rs4 competition - It's a full 20 seconds (yes, 20 seconds) faster around the Nürburgring than the regular RS4. That new $16k suspension setup they added to the car is magic.

@stubones 5 месяцев назад

To put it in context, the M3 is way quicker when the driver doesn’t sandbag. Its blatantly obvious his driving was erratic and scrappy.

@randyragy4592 5 месяцев назад

@@stubones I don't think he sandbagged though. in this video, @2:07, he said he also tested the M3 sedan and got a 43.9 which is the exact same time as the RS4 comp. So are you saying he sandbagged both the M3 touring and the M3 Sedan two separate times?

@TODM4XNL 5 месяцев назад

@@randyragy4592I don’t think so either. Adding to that is the tire difference. I think it plays a huge role at a track like this one.

@stefanomarcellino6701 5 месяцев назад

And this car wasn’t equipped with carbon ceramics

@Average_Bruh 5 месяцев назад

@randyragy4592 M fanboys are always gonna complain when they get beat. The simple fact of the matter is, BMW added AWD to the M3 and which added more weight than the already AWD RS4. So obviously Audi knows how to package AWD. The M3 having more power and more weight, results in pretty similar Power to Weight. So they were perfectly matched. Imo

@Eduardolo1964 5 месяцев назад

The RS4 is now also fast in the corners and it's nice to see that the engineers have finally got this right.

@GeordieAmanda 5 месяцев назад

I clicked on this without thinking and was created by the inimitable tones of STEVE!...yay! More Steve. Great review as ever. More please. I'd love to see a retrospective of the outgoing F Type (R), as there aren't any car shows left to wax lyrical about this beautiful dinosaur and they do represent the end of an era (especially for Jaguar).

@suprememaxpayne 5 месяцев назад

The nostils weigh 150 kgs?

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

Ugliness adding weight would explain a great deal on BMW's entire lineup. Seriously, their cars are just porky this generation.

@russ6362 5 месяцев назад

RS4 on looks alone

@user-my4xu4gf1z 5 месяцев назад

Bruh if u havent seen the new bmw m3 or m4 with an adro body kit and grille or the CSL one stop what ur doing and check them out. Ritta rides just reviewed the best looking M car ive ever seen in the bmw m4 csl. Other then that though i prefer the m3s look just need some aftermarket 300-800$ add ons and it looks super mean and aggresive. All types of stuff u can do to it. Performance wise i just couldnt go back to an older bmw too, these new xdrive M cars launch like a tesla plaid. With just 10k in tunes its faster then one too. I use to hate the grille till i saw the aftermarket options. It looks tons better then this fat wagon. Plus it'd faster from a dig a roll and around the track. But I guess ur just an audi owner

@motlatsikhomari7254 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂😂bmw fanboy sit down 🤦‍♂️

@Schuey_M 5 месяцев назад

Well done Audi.

@jamborossrs 5 месяцев назад

You’re not telling me he can feel 2 tenths. 😂. Also repeat the test over and over and they’ll probably keep switching results.

@aabidamn 5 месяцев назад

The actually do these tests several times and then pick the best lap time. The one where he speaks while driving, was not the actual best lap time. They shot another lap just to do the narration. It's impossible to get the best lap time if his main focus was to entertain the camera.

@patricklund6497 3 месяца назад

Steve is one of the few proper testers with real track skills, rather than some random boy wannabe racer - so yes he can lol!

@KS-hq3ci 5 месяцев назад

Not a fair comparison. Better tires make a lot of difference, since they connect the car to the road. Plus, in M3 there was a driver error at the chicane that costed extra time as well

@Vision_3030 3 месяца назад

Shocking that a bigger, heavier, and more powerful car would be harder to manage around a tight circuit.

@hannantr 5 месяцев назад

Great piece! Thanks.

@jamsxr 5 месяцев назад

We need more Sutcliffe content! Would love to see him and Harris together.

@Average_Bruh 5 месяцев назад

I'm happy the Audi won. Imagine if Audi increased the power like we all wanted. It would be a M3 funeral.

@evol3852 5 месяцев назад

Keep in mind the B10 will come out next year. RIP BMW

@andrewwaller5913 3 месяца назад

RS6

@ilvesman 5 месяцев назад

I hate to say it but seems that for a first time Audi RS guys have beaten BMW M guys in suspension department. Perhaps learned something from Porsche...

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

Or perhaps when the host repeats for 3 or 4 times that the RS4 has better tires, it might make a difference.

@ilvesman 5 месяцев назад

Suspension compliance over kerbs has not much to do with tyres in this case. P Zero Corsas have much higher grip levels than PS4 but thats not really relevant here.

@v12-s65 5 месяцев назад

@@ilvesmannot really much higher

@Corvolet5 3 месяца назад

Well it's about time when they made the same car for 7 years.

@v12-s65 3 месяца назад

@@Corvolet5 it's a great car so who cares? The longer they build it the better. Next one ain't gonna be an ICE

@mrtizer6672 5 дней назад

I went from a stage 4.25 gtr to a rs4 not as fast but didn't regret my choice whatsoever love it

@Diffusion8 5 месяцев назад

Great motoring journalism! Lovely to see Sutters at the wheel!

@ilandman4evr 5 месяцев назад

Fun track battle really enjoyed this vid> Win or lose that RS4 Comp in this spec 2:48 is the winner hands down imo. Just look at it 2:57

@Mahim.91 5 месяцев назад

My first impression was the Audi looks so much nicer than the BMW. If I was in a position fortunate enough to buy one, no matter what, my heart would always opt for the BMW.

@keithjackson4985 5 месяцев назад

I'd buy the Audi for the wheels alone! They look fantastic!

@andrewwaller5913 3 месяца назад

Plus the fact it has a proper grill not that hideous BMW buck tooth thing 😂

@ianwakefield3453 5 месяцев назад

The best road tester out there.

@redemptionx2918 5 месяцев назад

Audi wins on looks alone 😅. I don’t understand why they called it competition tho

@robdavis16 5 месяцев назад

BMW fanboys crack me up 😂😂😂😂

@alstound 5 месяцев назад

Chill, tyres made all the difference.

@motlatsikhomari7254 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂....Bro they making excuses about tyres forgetting the audi has lesser power & bmw is just a fat pig

@DCPEvo 5 месяцев назад

I love both cars, however I suspect the times say more about the rubber and what looked like an autocross track. On a proper high speed track on equal tires I’d suspect the result to be different.

@jaydaley1294 5 месяцев назад

Surely you want both cars on an even playing field for a timed track test. That rubber difference leaves so much on the table.

@dutchschaefer5787 5 месяцев назад

I’ll be honest I wasn’t expecting that result. I’m a fast Audi guy all day but I always know a BMW is quicker round a track. Then this result spun it on its head. 🤯

@bapr3887 4 месяца назад

And my favourite, touge timeattack made by Drift King himself. BMW M4 0:27.98 A4 2.0 TFSI quattro 0:28.10 BMW M235i 0:28.21 Absurdly good.

@ElyciusM 5 месяцев назад

I love what audi did with the competition. Made it exciting enough to compete with cars for people that don't prefer the audi way, it would have been perfect if they increased the power at least another 25-30bhp. Obviously a simple remap is enough to do even way more than that on these cars. The suspension setup makes it good enough to compete on a smaller track like this, but it will obviously lose on a track with longer straights. But still cool to see it beat the m3 comp, and totally destroy the standard rs4. I don't see a reason not to get the competition package on it. Wish they had them in the states. We're stuck with the sportback rs5 comp, which is cool, but I love the audi wagons. Would prefer this over the rs6 comp.

@wass006 5 месяцев назад

That's a shock would never expect that

@ted6462 5 месяцев назад

I have that 2.9L in my Cayenne S and it is a great engine!

@augustortiz 5 месяцев назад

130kg is a gigantic difference, especially on a track like this. I'm not sure why so many people are surprised by the outcome?

@jamesfitzgerald5118 5 месяцев назад

Mainly because and RS4 is not seen as a track car in any way. M3 on the other hand...

@Bagyyyy 5 месяцев назад

and 60hp more? (even more, if we would look on dyno)

@rforracing 5 месяцев назад

Yep small track benefits Audi. Would have loved to see the results in dry conditions in RWD mode on the M3.

@GarryMcGovern 5 месяцев назад

Based on looks alone, I would have gone Audi - the fact that it IS actually quicker, is just the most gorgeous, soft, moist, tender cherry on the top!!!!!

@sportbikejesus6297 5 месяцев назад

0.3 faster with r-compound tires vs street tires means the Audi is definitely slower. About the looks… they’re wagons so they’re both hideous pigs The BMW’s front half looks way better than the Audi bc the Audi has a grill worse than everything besides a Lexus.

@m3awd598 5 месяцев назад

I have a G80 M3 and I'd say the Audi is more pretty, the BMW is more aggressive. I agree that the Audi's stickier tires made a good difference but the M3 is also paying the price of its weight on the track

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

Quicker? Did you miss the like 4 occasions where the host said it's on stickier tires? 😂 Fastestlaps shows the M3 Touring at a fat 5 seconds faster than the RS4 Competition on the Nordschleife, so the RS4 far from being faster.

@ronaldov09 5 месяцев назад

@@sportbikejesus6297 BMW front better than the Audi's...get off the crack pipe! lol

@louisolivierfortin 5 месяцев назад

@@sportbikejesus6297I mean it is incredibly subjective but I bet if we polled 1000 random people on the streets most would find the audi to be more appealing. Again it’s a opinion

@jeffa.8976 5 месяцев назад

Completely different class of tires. I'd put my bank account on the BMW if they were on equal tires.

@motlatsikhomari7254 2 месяца назад

The fact that Audi beat bmw with less power is already a win in my books

@mrboonie620 5 месяцев назад

Does anyone know why Audi didn’t give the uk comp the carbon bucket seats

@skihu2007 5 месяцев назад

so cool these German wagons!

@superchargedsteve3411 5 месяцев назад

The Audi has fixed sport springs, ceramic brakes, better tires, and less weight. Beats more power

@wasdwasdwwasd 5 месяцев назад

Impressive!

@fredc9655 5 месяцев назад

On this track yes, these cars should be driven on some longer faster tracks than this one to really tell the potentials and differences, M3 is still the benchmarks I guess.

@Tracertme 5 месяцев назад

Ignoring BMW current lack of any styling capabilities it’s something they struggle with historically and current M3 M2 are top examples, the industry just shows how they are taking engineering down the wrong road, more weight just makes worse cars.. it’s literally a hole they dig and then spend years trying to engineer themselves out off. This test is one of those rare examples that proves it. At the end of day there is not much in it on the road with these two cars.. I find the EV future even more unattractive especially as you watch BMW putting every kind of colourful bling factor they can come up with to try and make their product interesting. 7 series being a top example.❤

@dlevi67 5 месяцев назад

You are right in general, but I suspect the tyres are much to "blame" for the result in this video. Set the BMW up with a set of Cup 2s or the same Pirelli the Audi has, and I bet the results are reversed, and then some.

@SPQRTempus 5 месяцев назад

Having driven both back to back I am not surprised the Audi is faster around LLandow. But for me I prefer the BMW because the driving position, interior and tech are light years ahead of the Audi B9 RS4 which is starting to show it's age.

@STORM3SHADOW 5 месяцев назад

Wow, I thought the M3 would wipe the floor of the RS4 Comp. I'm genuinely shocked. I'm sure on a track with more straights where the M3's power advantage, it would handily beat the RS4 but chalk one up for Team Audi!!!!

@An.Individual 5 месяцев назад

very surprising result. I wonder how much difference the tyres make?

@anitajerkin 5 месяцев назад

Or better tires.

@xIcarus227 5 месяцев назад

@@An.Individual I'd say that judging by Fastestlaps painting the M3 as faster on every other track they have, it's pretty clear the tires made a big difference here.

@ronaldov09 5 месяцев назад

@@xIcarus227 Look at you commenting on all these posts, get a f#@kin life man...geezus.

@alstound 5 месяцев назад

I’m sure Sutcliffe kicked the tail out of the rear-biased M3 somewhere, hence the 0.22-second difference. A better driver would have seen the BMW win, not by much, but it would certainly have not lost.

@petejr7583 5 месяцев назад

Did the Bimmer have carbon ceramic brakes? …noticed the Audi didn’t.

@Metal05 5 месяцев назад

Audi all the way, saving got an RS4 at this very moment.

@Sell865com 5 месяцев назад

Current gen RS without comp, not a fan. With comp, awesome.

@nickng5857 5 месяцев назад

Too bad the EA839 is not that reliable and thus you don’t see any big power builds with that engine and Audi couldn’t even give it a power upgrade with the facelift😂. With the S58 we all know it’s a monster with stage 2 people running 9s without touching the internals. M3 CS and M4 CSl already comes with upgraded powers so we know how much more headroom the engine has. Good on Audi for tweaking the suspension and fine tuning on the Rs4 but the engine itself almost pays for the M3/4s

@bapr3887 4 месяца назад

Go look gregor10 and stop spread myths. 2.9 V6 itself is at same lvl at s58, just aux is on lower tier, you have to stage 2 it and thats it.

@steveberridge4648 5 месяцев назад

I reckon the tyre on the Audi is worth about half a second on that short lap......still impressive though. Audis don't usually beat bmws or get that close on track comparison tests.....

@augustortiz 5 месяцев назад

I'd take the Audi to be completely honest. It's fast enough anyway and well, the looks and interior are much better imo. That being said, im pretty sure the same tyre on both and the M3 would monster the Audi.

@jdeejax 5 месяцев назад

@ElyciusM 5 месяцев назад

This is a small and tight track, so the suspension magic audi worked on is the reason it really shines here. Straights aren't long enough to show the m3's power advantage. Sure, the m3 would be a little quicker than the audi with comparable tires, but it would be pretty close. ps4s are 80-90% of the tire that the corsas are, I'd figure the bmw would gain maybe .3-.4 on it's time with the same tires.

@totom5095 5 месяцев назад

I think Auto Express can capitalise on the end of top gear and The Grand tour. If they don’t it’s such a mistake. Great review , could have gone deeper into the full ownership profiles though

@tepes141 5 месяцев назад

This short track put in advantage the lighter car with stickier tires. On a faster and longer track the result could be different.

@motlatsikhomari7254 2 месяца назад

The lighter & less powerful car won ....The RS4 comp is a better in all aspects

@boogboog8097 5 месяцев назад

Audi should have upped to 500bhp for the runout special

@kilove1 5 месяцев назад

😅😅😅😅 Steve “ didn’t expect that.. nor the BMW 😅😅😅

@gw7624 5 месяцев назад

Hard to take the result seriously given the Audi's tyre advantage.

@beesa888 5 месяцев назад

I approve more Wagon content!

@joshbacon8241 5 месяцев назад

How come UK-spec RS4 Competitions don't get the upgrades that Euro-spec cars get, such as the carbon seats, etc?

@danamoradi6031 5 месяцев назад

These cars will make history

@ganuv 5 месяцев назад

No two laps can ever be the same that’s why to really see who’s faster you need a drag race , trust me the Audi is not faster , the m3 would beat it pretty badly

@paultaylor9652 5 месяцев назад

Can't afford either or ever will, but I'd have the Audi, even the badge/drivers have a bad reputation. Great video, nice to see a presenter that's over 35 for a change.

@kpace8605 5 месяцев назад

Yes i been hit twice by Audi drivers.

@dlevi67 5 месяцев назад

Not that BMW drivers have a much better rep... (I have driven both - no offense meant)

@GarthLovesTRAVEL 5 месяцев назад

Love the RS4. Looks way better than the M3 too

@user-my4xu4gf1z 5 месяцев назад

@alstound 5 месяцев назад

Meh, all Audis have looked boring lately. The Beaver-W commands a lot more road presence no matter what.

@markrhoden68 День назад

I have to wonder, given that in this test on this track, would it influence a potential buyer to go for one over the other based on these results, or would it be a personal choice. Badge loyalty looks tech interiors etc

@jefferyfeng1778 5 месяцев назад

tyre makes huge difference.

@petesjooman 5 месяцев назад

Mickey Mouse circuit and the other car has sticky tires. What a great comparision. Omfg :D

@arnsteinholm7372 5 месяцев назад

The tires are among the most crucial part of this equation .... therefor meaningless race

@kamykkamyk 5 месяцев назад

I've watched all videos on M3 Toruing on youtube and your review is first that says that RS4 has better handling LOL something is dodgy here !!

@richarddocherty5007 5 месяцев назад

Goes to demonstrate the fixation with power is often flawed

@KCKNV 5 месяцев назад

Great performance from Audi! A car that was developed over 8 years ago destroys a new over-hyped M3. The M3 is also great, but it can obviously be even better.

@christiandunster4313 5 месяцев назад

As an owner of a B9 Audi RS5 and G80 BMW M3Comp, I'll say I love them both. Audi wins in the styling department for sure and in the winter months the quattro prevails over xdrive partly because of the front/rear bias of the two platforms. I also track both cars and am a bit surprised by these results. Over the few 2.5 mile tracks that I frequent, the BMW times are consistently ~3 seconds faster than the best I can muster in the Audi.

@dlevi67 5 месяцев назад

Tyres...

@ellasOLE22 5 месяцев назад

just chill for a second. They are Pzero Corsa's not fkn Trofeo R's. Just because Audi for ONCE put proper tires on their RS cars and they start Humiliating BMW's all the BMW fanboys need to start crying about tires. What about all the years gone by when M cars have been on Star marked PS4S tires vs the competitors on Hankook Ventus 3's LOL. I didn't hear any BMW fanboys cry about tires then.@@dlevi67

@ellasOLE22 5 месяцев назад

This is the RS4 Competition. They upgraded the suspension on the car to make it track focused. I take it you have a normal RS5 too and not the RS5 Competition either.

@dlevi67 5 месяцев назад

@@ellasOLE22 Nobody is crying or a fanboy - projecting much, kid? The lap difference was 0.3 seconds, which I would hardly call a 'humiliation'; Audi never fitted Hankook as OEM on this model, so try to calm down and look at the thing objectively. Given the two cars are fairly equally matched in terms of power-to-weight, it's not surprising that the one with the slightly better tyres is slightly faster around a tight circuit. The one who needs to chill is you...

@christiandunster4313 5 месяцев назад

I’m a fan of both brands but to add more context to my earlier comment. Yes, my RS5 is not the Competition, but it is on KW V2 coilovers and running Michelin PS4 tires. My M3 is on KW HAS and still running the stock Pirelli PZeros which are not great. Good to see Audi trying to close the gap

@calesticall128 5 месяцев назад

Two versus complex absolutely the new enginering auto in years.

@Muthaphukka_GT4 12 дней назад

Next time try it in 4WD and not 4WD Sport. Obviously, there was a lot of over-steer at the beginning of the drive, owed to 4WD Sport.

@Nickbaldeagle02 5 месяцев назад

Audi wins the beauty competition.

@johnandmorehb3422 5 месяцев назад

Fun to watch, but nobody can drive 10 laps with only 2 tenths difference per lap in the same car.

@iandavies1893 5 месяцев назад

I think the same tyres on the BMW would see it marginally beat the Audi. Driven by the only journalist faster than Chris Harris also helps any car😊

@Gioo72 5 месяцев назад

Sorry, but they are not comparable: the tyre-advantage of the Audi is too much on a track!

@Altair150 5 месяцев назад

Put on the M3 Touring the same tires like the optional track tires and it will be faster than the RS 4 Competition. Not sure what this video wants to say by comparing two cars with different tire sets?? Just ridiculous

@Breakout90 5 месяцев назад

Get the comp M3, and the same tires as RS4, and compare again..

@jack712 3 месяца назад

Easy 1sec between the Corsa and the PS4S.

@prageethathapaththu8090 5 месяцев назад

Bmw ❤

@kpace8605 5 месяцев назад

Think the BMW would look better in another colour.I wish Alfa did a Gulia estate.☘️☘️☘️

@dave-wz5bm 5 месяцев назад

This is too close to call a win with different tires.

@Houlque 5 месяцев назад

On the same rubber, M3 will beat Audi big time.

@robertlinge3200 5 месяцев назад

Worst still the M3 had ceramic brakes and the Audi has steels.

@ukwan 3 месяца назад

I think theres a lot of journalism tropes thrown around about Audi, which just arent true anymore. They dont understeer anymore and they certainly go well.

@bapr3887 2 месяца назад

They never understeered anyway. If there was limit, it was just case that Audi had too much grip on rear axle.

@ukwan Месяц назад

@@bapr3887you literally just defined understeer with word spaghetti. 😂

@bapr3887 Месяц назад

@@ukwan Problems with understeer, "cant turn" "audisteer" are not same, when car have too much grip in rear axle. Too much grip in rear axle is very easy to fix and in every audi there is 3-4 easy tricks to make rear slighty to a lot more loose. (but why anybody would do it, when there is literally no problem?) Audi just making rear axle more and more loose. People think, that they dont understeer anymore, when their front axle grip is still in same, record high level, rear axle just pops first, cant keep up with front anymore.

@brentpowell7889 5 месяцев назад

Well it’s not , you can only say that when you run them on the same tyre compound, tyres are everything 🤦‍♂️

@evalds1983 5 месяцев назад

Surprise from Audi, can't believe..

@eyesgreen7866 5 месяцев назад

where's Steve been?

@Nickbaldeagle02 5 месяцев назад

Prison.

@willneverstop 5 месяцев назад

wow

@VonGreen 5 месяцев назад

I know this is not the theme of the video in general, and here, I'm speaking broadly in general terms, but it seems that since the latest 5/7 years ago, from the all 3 big german names, AUDI seems to be sleeping in general terms. Merc has drop the competition for sure and threw themselves deeply into the electric trend, BMW has clearly stayed giving seriously sport models day in day out, and AUDI has kept more subdued with stagnated models with no update whatsoever since when they were lauched back in 2016/2017. Yeah, I know that just recently we got the new "Performance" variants of the RS6/RS7, but... Could that be too little too late...?

@wissor33 5 месяцев назад

Surely the tire choice doesn’t play any factor in the result 🤦‍♂️

@leonardsiragusa6675 5 месяцев назад

Dont worry....BMW will release a M3 touring CS! This is confirmed from BMW...delivered to Aus mid 2025 and will be a great send off for the s58 engine before the electrification revolution ...

@doca8792 5 месяцев назад

Audi RS models are the better all around cars. I always preferred taking my RS6 over my M3, for any occasion.

@Chris-jt4ux 5 месяцев назад

'better all round cars'. On which planet do you live? Utter nonsense.

@doca8792 5 месяцев назад

@@Chris-jt4ux I fly close to the sun, son.

@Chris-jt4ux 5 месяцев назад

yeah, la la land by the sound of it.@@doca8792

@Aizman87 5 месяцев назад

Achievement by Audi finally being able to beat a bmw on a track xD Id still pick the M3 tho=)

@GM-lq7sw 5 месяцев назад

NIO ET5T....is th answer

@dubgli 9 дней назад

Love how when the BMW beats any other car - "the beamer is better hands down anywhere and everywhere" When the audi wins - "so what. The audi won on this day in this moment when I had a big Mac instead of a whopper. Any other moment it will most likely lose"

@DrPittenstein 5 месяцев назад

How and why is the BMW so heavy? The RS4 is no lightweight itself!

@jw6188 5 месяцев назад

Audi guys thinking they’ve won and then the CS version arrives.

@cesarers7372 5 месяцев назад

I don't get what's "competition" stands for. Those cars do not compete anywhere (afaik) and you can't turn them in competition cars. Maybe it's a competition that only exist in german manufacturers's heads beetwen themselves.

@soulstyledevon 5 месяцев назад

He looked bored in the Audi. The BMW looked far more engaging and entertaining

@CarToneHK 5 месяцев назад

M3 Touring is simply too heavy for this tight track

@user-ym9ik9ow3r 5 месяцев назад

If audi put some more power ,for example 22hp more so both of the cars would have the same ratio hp/kg, the audi would be clearly ahead of BMW... Nevertheless Audi is the winner!...💪🔥❤️

@Chris-jt4ux 5 месяцев назад

lol no.

@simonbird785 5 месяцев назад

Funny how the M3 is preferred on the website head to head. For the 1% of people who might track their M3 touring this video may be of use.

@alstound 5 месяцев назад

The S58 is a engine in every way than the dated Audi 💩.

@lmtd4565 5 месяцев назад

Now let's imagine the Rs4 with the same power 😂

@Chris-jt4ux 5 месяцев назад

now lets imagine the M3 with the same tyres😂

@lmtd4565 5 месяцев назад

@@Chris-jt4ux would probably still be slower 😂

@alstound 5 месяцев назад

@@lmtd4565stop kidding yourself.

@Corvolet5 3 месяца назад

Probably an aftermarket chip would do the work. If you decide to have it tuned by ABT to the same power output, you'e gonna have to invest 30k. Quite hefty if you ask me.