Automatic Scouting - Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition Quality of Life 

@Big Boss From what I've seen, it's pretty terrible at useful scouting. Goes off on a tangent towards the corners of the map, failing to find both sheep and the enemy in a timely fashion. And dying if it gets close to the enemy. I suspect it'll be used only by sub-900 or so players, whose scouts would otherwise be spending large amounts of time just sitting idle. They probably added it so as to ease getting into the game for newer players, in order to help grow the community.

@@ArawnOfAnnwn If you are bad at scouting, there should be a tutorial for that, not a bot.

​@@arshiaaghaei The macro is hard in AoE II, this feature is very welcome for noobs games.

@@danylbekhoucha6180 You'd make a tutorial for that, not a bot.

@@arshiaaghaei Why you did not make that tutorial then? I hate using this word noob, but noobs and newcomers in the AoE have other things to worry about than scouting, especially since many come from other RTS games where, wait for it, the maps are revealed like a Black Forest and hence they were not needed to learn scouting before, it is something new for them. It is the same concept as saying to new players to play Huns, of course it goes against the habbit of not getting housed, but as a new player you have other things to worry about than making houses. People like that should learn one thing at a time and these things helps, throw them into everything at once and ..... they might not come back ever again. By the way if your answer will be, that the AoE II do not need newcomers from the other RTS games, then the discussion with you will be irrelevant - I had people like this before. We want the game to grow not to stale, I had enough of the 1v1 Huns Arabia only with the SAME people for the past 20 years.

They took er jerbs !!!!

@@HeavyCavalryArcher bruh nice picture and username

useful for dark age and early feudal but for the rest it is not

@@Ainsley_the_meat_rubber For new players and for people who have trouble multi-tasking, (like I do) this is amazing. First of all, I would never auto scout at the beginning because as it was said elsewhere, it can be very inefficient to find things like resources, but just a little while later on while you are busy at home building up your base, sending a scout on auto is amazing because you can use them to help find where the opponent's base is. (in fact, all the rts games that offer auto scouting is inefficient and from time to time I will take over and give the scout direct orders so that I can see something specific before putting it back on auto. Again, this is just a helping and hand helps with some micromanagement and takes of some of the strain one might feel when playing a game like this.

Ok

, heck yeah! wait, didn't they remove this after patch 5.8?

It should be something you have to enable as an option from the lobby, similar to all techs.

@@lukasg4807 yes I agree with you it should be optional to enable or disable in lobby

I've yet to see ANY scout units, which to me means the ones that CAN auto-scout, other than the original one unit. This is definitely a hassle, because should your scout die, which is none too rare, you're forced to scout manual thereafter. I use auto-scout right from the beginning, and instead concentrate heavily on my early economics. But one thing puzzles me though. Why is it sometimes the scout sticks very rigorously to the immediate area around the camp, as though making an ever-widening circle, and other times he takes off uselessly to the furthest corner of the map? Sure, he will find a civ eventually, but beyond finding a civ, I see no purpose, because after that he's usually widening a circle around THAT base. Hey, I want at least the first five minutes of scouting to be around MY BASE, so I won't have to send villagers, or military out to find the shrub bushes, etc. I'm playing against the AI as always, and I set it for me to have five enemies I think (I like playing TOTAL conquest, there is no trade, etc) and all on extreme advantage. One little sense of accomplishment, is I beat them all to feudal, but then got trounced getting to castle. I, at least, like to win the race to one age anyway, but it is surprising, for me anyway, to beat extreme to feudal. One last note, I would rather auto-scout, even though it's often very stupid, but we just have to have others we can put on it, other than the one lousy unit. All these capabilities in the game, and only one that can auto-scout? Come on. I will admit that later in the game as my economy is more settled, I will go taking over the generally shoddy scout, but with the relative ease of them dying, especially later game when there's more units to attack them, keeping them alive AND scouting is quite a pain. OTOH, I'm not so sure it's a good idea to have other scout units, though in real war that's a given, because no telling what stupidity the AI enemy might do with them (army of scouts anyone?).

i dont have it in campaign though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For all units would be better, you right click on the icon you want the building to constantly produce and it would cost the resources only after starting producing it.

And Is optional

Yeah if you're getting upset over optional changes in a game, you're honestly a moron. It wasn't added for those people.

@@MrZodiac011 yeah, im more worried that mongols has sttepes lancers

I don't think you understand what QoL means. Im fine with the feature, before you barrage me with incorrect assumptions.

@@Hashslingingslasher- Not everyone can concentrate on managing the early game and clicking on random spots of a black map to then babysit the scout when he bumps into a tree or a river, the auto-scout is useful because you can mix the random part of exploring with more precise pointers when the player gets a breather or spots a good position. Rise of Nations had this feature and worked wonders, it just removes a bit of micro from an already random part of the gameplay (sending the scout exploring into dark randomness), not a strategic part of the game. The only people I can see disagreeing with this are prob the competitive meta-players who are not going to use this feature anyway, because their micro is already godly to use it in the first place. Honestly if you're really fine with the auto-scouting, I don't know why you're even bothering contesting this is not a "QoL feature".

Not really, even an above medium skilled player has enough APM.

pros will never need that

The AI scouting is so bad it would actually hurt them more than help them.

@@snarbolax6962 nope, cope

that's a fallacious non-argument. pathetic

That's utter BS. There are huge issues with this new update. First of all, it makes you lazy to a certain degree in the game start. It always was an important task to keep an eye on both the scout and the vills. This updates changes that and not in a good way

@@hgetu3366 cope

@@arshiaaghaei waaaah waaaaah

@@mihaimercenarul7467 Well by now it's more nerfed so that it's really inaccurate. So it's not as bad as the release time.

what an unit, look at this hero saving competitive integrity with that smooth brain

Yes, they should also add auto boar luring and also auto queuing for villagers as well as an option to keep up military production. Last but not least auto conversions for monks.

​@@snarbolax6962 I'd be very happy with an option for infinite production in any building. Right click on a scout icon or ctrl+q, and they will be trained constantly while you raid enemy eco.

@@olegdragora2557 I don't know if you've played it but I think you would like the game Stronghold crusader it's more heavy on the strategy element and less execution if you're interested.

@Snarbolax Thanks for a recommendation! Yes, I like this game too. Also it has a hotkey for flattening the map which helps to build and navigate. It would be nice to have a similar feature in AoE 2, instead of Small Trees mod.

stupid comment remove plz

@@Boom3120 Stupid response to the comment. Provide reason why you think it's not useless.

@@arshiaaghaei you're not forced to use it and new players, beginners, people playing very casually could make use of it

@@Boom3120 Teaching things is the job of a tutorial. Not a bot. Add a tutorial for scouting. Not this

@@Boom3120 yer dumb as fuck my dude, lets just let the ai play instead of us and grind elo right? like, scouting is probably the most important thing in the game and can make a huge difference in every situation, if you just enable such an option you just take away from player skill and people will stop trying to improve their scouting, thus lowering the skill ceiling

Pros will barely use this

@@mrkirby8622 doesn't matter. it's still giving an illegitimate benefit to players who would have to train their skills to get it otherwise.

@@hgetu3366 It's still a skill you should learn to get better... Scouts can litterly run away sometimes. It's unpredictable and definitely not great. And it invites players to the game. Which is a good thing Edit: If you're playing half decent you can already not use the feature as it's not at your level of scouting and speed anymore...

Awesome idea. Let's remove auto-targeting too: you have to manually target every unit in combat. Let's remove rally points too: you have to manually move units after they're created. Let's remove build queues. Let's remove farm auto-reseeding. Let's remove shift-queueing. After all, making the game arbitrarily harder makes it better, right? Right? More actions = better, right?

@@SchemingGoldberg better predd autoplay Mode and drink coffe while IA plays . It may does better than u

It's like you didn't even listen to what he's saying in the video.

Might as well not use it then? It's still better to scout manually as said in the video but it's intended for new players mostly, stop crying over optional features.

are you stupid?

I didn't even bother, making game easier will only make new players lose interest. Look at all the boring afk rpg out there. Takes fun away from actual play. Am just looking out for the community.

@@gtccold You can't be serious? You actually are, aren't you? It's a single button and it doesn't even come close to being as good as manually doing it still. I can totally understand a new player that doesn't have a lot of APM being overwhelmed by the sheer amount of things that they need to keep up with being happy with this little help. You're not looking out for the community you're just trying to gate it with your own standards.