@@tanossquad7101The ship we're talking about is the Iliad, the carrier which carries the monolith, which is a portal leads to another planet where Hive is on
According to lore, 4r Hellicarrier was scrapped, the original plus the 3 new ones. Basically because of the rise of Hydra and the fall of Shield plus the Actions of Civil War, things was such a mess that during the scrapping of the Hellicarriers the pieces were just stolen by Shield and the ship was reassembled in the secret base. Basically 4 Hellicarrier pieces they slowly siphoned enough pieces from 4 of them to make 1 Hellicarrier. Plus supplement what they could not get and use items from storage.
For the record, the scene from 2:43 onwards is the Illiad, not the helicarrier. The Illiad is a traditional aircraft carrier, and was where Gonzalez' S.H.I.E.L.D. faction hung out when they weren't busy screwing up Coulson's plans during Season 2 of "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D."
@@DedricSilva and soon those things won’t even matter considering the multiverse is opening (wandavision) and that they can travel through the timelines!
Every time I see the Helicarrier launching the lifeboats, I can't help but think of one conversation from Season 1 of Agents of SHIELD: Nick Fury: The principle SHIELD was founded on was pure. Melinda May: Protection. Nick Fury: Protection. One word. Sometimes to protect one man from himself, other times to protect the planet against an alien invasion from another universe. It's a broad job description. Phil Coulson: No need to tell me. Nick Fury: But the belief that drives us all is the same. Whether it's one man or all mankind. Phil Coulson: That they're worth saving.
Agents of shield Canonization is something everybody wants. But for now it sits in the category of “Although it didn’t happen, the world is slightly more pleasant if it did.”
@@zagreus1999that's the same thing I said, everything follows the mcu avengers events and how they fought thanos when he invaded earth, and even if they branched off fitz literally took them back to much timeline at the end.
@@zagreus1999 Hell, in season 2, when Coulson visited the Theta Protocol base you saw this helicarrier being worked on under the supervision of the Koenigs. Same season, Maria Hill and Coulson discussed Loki's Sceptre, Sokovia, Hydra, and the Theta Protocol readiness during a teleconference.
Okay, the ship can fly and launch kick ass fighter jets and we even get a cameo from Admiral Adama. Just call it what it is. Old #64 is a Terrestrial Battlestar.
Well, officially, it is canon and so are the other Marvel Television shows and Kevin Feige will never say otherwise, but anyone who watches the movies and shows knows that reality is not that way. Because Kevin Feige didn't have his fingers on these shows and the disagreements between him and former Marvel Enterteinment CEO Ike Perlmutter or something (forgot his name, sorry), the movies never acknowledged the shows' events except for two indirect references and they still treat Coulson as dead since the first Avengers and SHIELD as being disbanded since The Winter Soldier (with SWORD now taking it's place) and whenever a fraction of the disbanded SHIELD shows up, it's always Nick Fury leading them, even though he stopped being the director of SHIELD and went into low profile since The Winter Soldier, accoarding to Agents of SHIELD. They also treat the Inhumans and the Hive plotline as non-existent and the time travel rules are different between Avengers Endgame and Runaways. They also re-designed the Darkhold for Wandavision, and while one of Wandavision's writers "imagines it's the same book" (which, lets be honest, is just a polite way of saying "sure, whatever"), they also said that they adapted the book from it's comic counterpart rather than looking at the already existing Darkhold from Marvel TV. Also Helstrom was officially decanonized by it's showrunner in a interview. As for now, the only Marvel TV show that is actually treated by the movies as canon is Agent Carter due to Edwin Jarvis' cameo on Endgame, but that's only because that's the only show who had Kevin Feige as a producer and it also had other Big Heads from Marvel Studios on it (Markus and McFeely as creators and one of the russo brothers as an director for one of the episodes). Lots of MCU movies people worked on that show so that's probably why they cared enough to directly acknowledge this show. As for now, there isn't any contradictions that prevents these shows from being canon except for the Darkhold but Agents of SHIELD establishes the book can change it's appearence so they could use that as an excuse. Also it's technically just a re-design thing (for now). And there's also the time travel thing with Runaways (but... yeah, there's no way to justify that one). The Ms. Marvel TV show will be the make-or-break moment, they'll either treat inhumans as existent and being public knowledge since 2016 or they'll treat them as a new thing and Marvel TV will definetely stop being canon. I like most of the shows and i want them to be canon (except for Inhumans. That shit can burn) but i won't keep my hopes up, i'm already at peace with the idea of them not being canon.
Where was this base? What was this base? Where did the helicarrier go after age of ultron? Where did the gun ship that gonzalez had go after the inhuman battle??????????
The base was an old SSR facility located somewhere in Canada, but it got destroyed later on in the show. The Helicarrier was still in use by S.H.I.E.L.D. as of the last AoS episode - during the bit at the end where it shows each team member, you can see Mack standing on it. Gonzalez' ship (The Illiad) was also presumably still in use, although it wasn't seen again after the Season 2 finale.
This, along with the events of The Dirty Half Dozen, proves the SHIELD was canon until a certain point. Age of Ultron doesn’t make much sense without it.
I hate that Kevin Feige has basically disowned Agents of Shield. If they can fully integrate the Marvel Netflix shows into the MCU they can find a way to Integrate Agents of Shield.
I mean, we're dealing with a multiverse now. Canonicity is moot. If projects such as What If...?, the Tobey Spidey movies, and Deadpool are connected to the MCU, AOS should be too, with all the connective tissue it has with the movies. Feige will find a way. For all we know, it's already set in the motion the moment Daredevil appeared in No Way Home. It's all connected.
Uh...was that Lashawna Lynch as one of the "other" SHIELD agents, the ones who thought Coulson needed stopping?! Ohhh...imagine the creative retconning to get Maria Rambeau officially in the latter scene as Fury's woman on the inside of the splinter group of agents😮
It's not mcu timeline, it's a variant timeline that branched out of the sacred timeline, it's similar to the sacred timeline except that coulson is alive(which was the nexus event that split his timeline).
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 nope..Wrong..was the dr strange spell in NWH who create all the universes desviations as showed in THAT crappy show called LOKI
@@FULANODETAL the dr strange spell did distabilize the multiverse but for each alternate timeline to branch of there need to be begans a nexus event, and the agent of shield nexus event is coulson successful resurrection(in the sacred timeline he's dead).
I'd assume it's the helicarrier from _Age of Ultron,_ as this and another scene from Season 2 were meant to reference the events of the film. Here, it is referred to as "a" helicarrier, indicating that it's not one-of-a-kind, and thus other helicarriers have been constructed in the past. As for its resemblance to the helicarrier from _The Avengers,_ rather than the later helicarriers, I'd assume that was due to a lack of accurate details behind the scenes. Either the _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ team weren't informed that later helicarriers would have repulsors instead of turbines, or that wasn't a creative decision that had been made for _Age of Ultron_ when this scene was put together, so the _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D._ team just reused the CGI model from _The Avengers_ and trusted that most people wouldn't notice it was identical.
and SECRET invasion shitted on nick fury and shield...instead of ask for SHIELD help ,,nick plan was let a 40 kg emilia clarke to try to defeat a srkull with military experience
