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I just want to say: I think Thor's "I'm still worthy"-moment is an incredibly powerful message for anyone suffering from depression or other mental issues.
This is proof you can incorporate messaging of real world issues like mental health into film if its done right and earned! The acting is incredible if not subtle how he shows suprise,release and joy when he says "I'm still worthy"
The whole point of Captain America is a not a perfect soldier but a good man. Sam is exactly that. He’s not only patriotic, & in actuality a very good soldier, but he’s highly empathetic & spends his retirement from the US forces helping other vets work through their traumas even though he has lost a lot too.
Ok but SPOILERS Even after watching FATWS I don’t believe Sam can be strong enough to use the shield. Other than that I’m down 100%. I wish they had given him the serum in my opinion since it was a huge plot point already.
@@PizzaHutCEO agreed. I am pretty much on board with the direction they taking with Sam as CA but honestly don't understand why they made taking serum like a bad thing in the show. Sam even straight up said No when he was asked if he would take it and that bothers me. Hope something happens in CA4 that makes falcon take the serum and that's the last bit imo they need to add to fulfill the replacement
That's the beauty of script writing, or comic writing -- what they write next becomes the new canon. Like, why does anyone have to replace Steve? Neither Sam nor Bucky fit the bill that Steve does/did. You think a shield in Sam's hand is going to enable him to stand up to Thanos the same way? No but Captain America is more important to the MCU than The Falcon, so they have to write something into the new script to make it work. The _only_ reason Steve was Captain America was because of the super serum.
The teen you saw was Harley. The kid who helped Tony in iron man 3. Once you watch Loki, you'll get some answers about things. 😁 Sebastian Stan has said that Bucky doesn't deserve the shield cause he's killed a lot of people and has done way to many terrible things. Sam has that moral code that Steve did so he deserves it. Bucky and Steve did have a conversation. The reason no one else knew about Steve staying was cause they'd stopped him. Bucky wanted him to go.
Yeah, even though Bucky was brainwashed and is now reformed, he was still an assassin who killed many, many people for decades. Though it was against his will, that's still so much dirty baggage that people may never be able to forgive when it comes to someone being Captain America and being that kind of symbol of heroism and valor. But Sam doesn't have that baggage, yet there are other issues regarding Sam having the the shield that do get addressed in the show The Falcon And The Winter Soldier.
@@glennwelsh9784 by 'addressed' you mean 'twisted to make it fit into a new narrative' they want you to accept. That's the beauty of script writing, or comic writing -- what they write next becomes the new canon. Like, why does _anyone_ have to replace Steve? Neither Sam nor Bucky fit the bill that Steve does/did. You think a shield in Sam's hand is going to enable him to stand up to Thanos the same way? No but Captain America is more important to the MCU than The Falcon, so they have to write something into the new script to make it work.
@@MoMoMyPup10 I mean... that is how writing works, you write knew things to put them into the canon. And Sam has been Captain America before, so it's not like some crazy wild thing they pulled out of nowhere.
@@shoemy89 _"And Sam has been Captain America before"_ -- when was that? And yes, you can always write _new_ things into the arc, but that doesn't make it digestible or a continuation story that everyone buys into. They could've made Bucky into a Mother Theresa also, and probably a lot more believably. And Falcon is a much cooler character than the Winter Soldier moving forward with the series. Steve Rogers was an Erskine manifestation - a genius scientist - Sam as Cap is just an MCU writer's forced canon.
From what I understood, changing the past doesn't affect the future. They specifically said it's not like time travel movies (ex Back to the Future). Only that taking a stone away would create a different offshoot timeline but the original stays the same. Then the offshoot timeline would disappear when the stone was returned.
The moment you travel to the past, where you just were becomes your past. It's all relative. You're always travelling forward into the future at 1 second per second.
The reason Captain Marvel wasn't featured more was because the writers didn't want the 'newcomer' to come and save everyone as if the original avengers couldn't do it. They didn't think viewers would appreciate that.
That's what you call 'changing your blueprint in order to appease the masses'. They set up the whole crazy powerful 'fist blasters' in CM but she never used them here. They squeeze her in between IW and EG for what? Just to diminish her superpower when it matters most. Useless introduction film it became.
I think that is totally fair still. It's not like she didn't have her big moments in the film but the writers and Russo bros knew their audience and created the story and Captain Marvel's role in it accordingly. PS: This comment may come off as a bit argumentative. It's not supposed to be.
"Is that allowed?" Yep. Changing the past doesn't affect your present. Killing your past self does nothing to you. There are no paradoxes, any change just creates a divergent timeline.
You guys are forgetting that Bucky is an internationally known assassin! He is redeemed to his friends, but that has nothing to do with the rest of the world's public opinion of him
I love Bucky a lot, but if you think he’s more suited to be Captain America at this point, then you haven't been paying attention. Sam embodies everything that Steve did when he held that shield. It's not just about the shield, it's about the man holding it too.
I think Bucky has too much “red” in his ledger as the Winter Soldier to be Captain America. Captain America serves as a certain kind of symbol to people, and I just don’t think Bucky fits that symbol. I don’t think BUCKY even thinks he fits that mold. Sam, on the other hand, has spent his life serving his country and then helping other veterans through their own traumas. In that way, he has the heart and history of good doing to be Captain America. So while it’s easier to imagine Bucky as Captain America, because he’s Steve’s best friend, Steve probably knows that’s not what Bucky wants, and that Sam had the character to keep the legacy going.
Exactly. While Falcon and the Winter Soldier had a lot of problems the best parts of it involved the legacy of Captain America and how Sam fits into that towering role. The character building for both himself and Bucky was very well done, and if the conflict involving the Flag Smashers was cut out of the show entirely it would be much stronger and probably better received.
I had an issue with Bucky not being the new Captain America at first, but Falcon and the Winter Soldier showed me he's ready and Bucky isn't. The "red" you're talking about is dived into in that show pretty decently and its obvious Bucky isn't ready for the mantle. That being said, you worded the reasoning pretty well and to that I say good job!
I agree heavily !!! I know that I was confused at first, but after thinking about everything Bucky has been through and also watching Falcon and the Winter Soldier, it makes sense. I think Bucky himself knows that he can't take up the Cap mantle, either because he's got too much red on his ledger or because it's so much pressure. Bucky needs to be able to find himself and gain his grounding (not to mention deal with his own issues and PTSD before taking on another thing. man has been through ENOUGH LMFAO) before he can take on the huge responsibility of being Captain America, and Sam is perfect for the role. I feel like a lot of people get angry about Sam being the new Cap but forget that in order for Steve to give up the shield, him and Bucky would've had a LONG conversation on what to do with it after Steve passes. Bucky knows that Sam will be able to handle the role perfectly and make everyone and Steve proud.
What's crazy is Wanda had Thanos when Cap and Thor couldn't take him. Her wanting to cause him pain gave him time to order the guns. If he hadn't called the guns she would have killed him very slowly. Bad bitch, I love her so much. ❤
@@manasas868 that doesn’t mean anything ofc scarlet witch is stronger than Wanda then but that still doesn’t deny the fact that she took on thanos by herself and almost prevailed if it wasn’t for thano’s rain fire.
The death of the past nebula does nothing to the future nebula because her past self is now from an alternate timeline where they know about the future. This is going by their logic, so the events the future avengers messed up in 2012 created another timeline that main versions aren't a part of.
@@nathansossai true, but I didn't know how to word it, I'm relatively new to their channel so I don't know everything they've seen in terms of marvel content. I didn't want to spoil anything just in case
@@sonadowfangirl30869 time travel is actually the most easy in MCU, which avoids plot holes. Take Back to the further for example. It’s all cool but once you actually started paying attention to the whole time travelling stuff, some of it just doesn’t makes sense. It’s good thing they actually referenced it in Endgame.
The writers for the initial phases of the MCU don't get nearly enough credit. To pull lines from a decade of movies and have them work together is truly remarkable. They deserved Oscars...
Time travel works differently in the Marvel universe than some other movies and TV shows. It's a multiverse. If you change the past all you're doing is creating a new timeline. There are infinite timelines. So, if they killed Thanos in the past, they would only create a timeline where Thanos dies and he never gets the stones. Their original timeline doesn't change one bit. You could stay in the new timeline, but your original world is still half dead. So, you don't galavant thru time creating butterfly effects, you just create new separate futures. Captain America's job was to put each stone back mere moments from when they borrowed them. So, no alternate timelines if he does it correctly. Loki is still alive , in a sense, because he's other. I won't say more because I don't know if everyone has watched his series on Disney. They tied everything up pretty nicely. Falcon was a far better choice for the new Captain America than Bucky. Bucky has way too much baggage. He was a brainwashed assassin for a number of years. He almost caused a war Wakanda. That psychological programming is still in his head. So, he could run amuck yet again. Nebula wasn't operating right when she was electronically tied to the other Nebula. She did what she could. Tony and Bruce were supposed to snap. No one else was smart enough or strong enough to do precisely what needed to be done. Heimdall sacrificed himself to make sure Banner/Hulk lived and made it back to Earth. Dr. Strange also sacrificed himself to make sure Tony Stark was spared. Both of the people that could see into possible futures died to make sure those two lived. Hulk's body allowed Banner to not immediately die. And, Tony likely altered his suit to protect him from much of the radiation and other harmful effects of the stones. I think Tony knew it might come down to him. And, despite his usual I don't care demeanor, Tony works extremely hard. He'd have a suit that would offer some protection for a Hail Mary pass with the stones.
Being Captain America is not having superpowers but being good and being a symbol......Bucky is never a logical choice......you don't want your Cap broken and twisted but a symbol of hope......a loyal soldier who always had Cap's back......Sam Wilson Rewatch the movie for understanding time travel
Oh yeah? Why then do they call it a 'super' soldier serum? You think a shield in Sam's hand is going to enable him to stand up to Thanos the same way? No, he'd get squashed like a bug, but Captain America is more important to the MCU than The Falcon, so they have to write something into the new script to make it work.
@@MoMoMyPup10 yeah exactly. Also as if Sam had a great character run, guy hardly had 15 minutes of screen time in entire MCU, hardly had any screen presence or impact or depth.
To this day I'm still conflicted with Steve's ending. On one hand I love it cause I love him and I want him to be happy. But on the other hand I hate that he has to leave his best friend in the world (and the person he fought so hard for in all his movies) behind to do it. And part of me really doubts that Steve could ever leave Bucky behind, and viceversa. Also, I'm kinda pissed that Nat didn't have the send off she deserved, like Tony did. She was an OG avanger too :(
it actually makes sense that he would leave bucky behind considering he already lived a life with him. bucky is his best friend but peggy was the love of his life and he didn’t get to live a life with her. that’s why bucky stayed back and let sam talk to him bc he already said his goodbye’s before he put the stones back bc he knew he wasn’t coming back. why not go back and live the life you wanted to with the love of your life when you have the chance ?
Steve says “you’re a good man, Sam” just before he gets on the platform to return the stones. That’s what the doctor told Steve before he took the serum. The mantle of Captain America isn’t about a serum, it’s about being a good man. Bucky would NEVER take the shield. He has way too much trauma and he himself doesn’t seem himself as a good man at this point.
Yet Sam gave away the shield right away while Bucky fought to keep it. You know why? Because Bucky has a far greater history with Steve than Sam does, so the shield means something more personal to him. There is a reason Bucky's run as Captain America in the comics is so beloved, and you arguing it "doesn't make sense" in the MCU doesn't make sense considering it made perfect sense in the comics where he has the exact same backstory. It's why his run as Cap is so interesting, because he's struggling to live up to Steve's legacy after his death in order to honor him, and eventually succeeds in becoming his own unique version of Captain America realising he doesn't need to BE Steve to do so.
bro hulk clearly explained that changing the past would change the past timeline but would not affect their present timeline, so all the thing they messed up is messed in the other timeline but in this timeline everything is the same, like in this timeline loki did not escape but in 2012 he escaped and we're gonna see what happens to him in Loki and u will understand more about time travel
Man, it seems like just yesterday when you guys started Iron Man 1. Time flies during a pandemic. Hope you guys are all doing well, take a break, then I guess everyone wants you to dig into all the TV shows as well.
The majority of the elements you are 'nit picking' about are new story lines that bring us into the next phase. You do need to watch the shows, because they deal with a lot of these issues. Also, the major plot point of the movie is for the Avengers to fight Thanos together and win. Something that didn't happen in Infinity War because they were separated. If Nebula had gotten away, the rest of the movie would have been pretty dull.
Time travel here was explained. But it's hard to apply real-world physics to something that's impossible in real-world physics. So you go by hyper theoretical/esoteric physics. Captain Marvel isn't "forced". The Infinity Saga is a comic book version of a crossover event. (That being based off the Infinity Gauntlet) All the title characters appear in the big event. It's not about the serum or his powers. It's about the person. You can't give the shield to a fractured minded former terrorist. Steve was a "good man". Sam is a "good man". That's what the Shield is about. The Falcon and Winter Soldier goes further into that.
It astounds me that there are people out there who like 'ant man and the wasp' and age of ultron more than endgame lmao. It's difficult for me to even like process that. I get the drama and high emotion aspect might not appeal to some, but I don't know if a better finale to the 22 film saga could've been made, absolute chef's kiss.
I think you have to bare in mind replay value isn't a massive factor to most including them, Endgame is movie your only likely to watch after you do a MCU marathon. I'd be surprised if anyone was ever just like hell I feel like slapping on Endgame today out of no where. I'd happily watch the other two almost any time
Honestly. This movie was such a beautiful send off for two major characters and a love letter to the fans who were with the story for a whole decade. I’ve watched the movie many times, and still feel every emotion. Idk maybe it’s different if you binge watch the saga.
@Fried Rice420 I respect your opinion and I personally do love the movie not one I'd watch on its own just randomly in the day for me it's always one I' don't watch in close proximity to Infinity War but make no mistake I do love the movie i've got it like 6/7 in my MCU ranking and to this day it's the most emotional I've felt as a grown man over a movie. End of the day it's opinions I respect the movie and I love that you love it
@@Jacoc323 This movie is the most emotional for me too, and I know I'm the biggest nerd for this but I swear I tear up everytime during the avengers assemble scene lmao.
No matter what you do in the past it won't affect your present, It just creates a new timeline(universe) with the changes done to the timeline. So killing baby Thanos wouldn't solve the problem, Loki(series) explains the time travel in more detail.
rewatch the scene with hulk and the ancient one. when something in the past changes, it creates a new timeline separate from the one that already exists. it doesnt change the present, it creates an alternate reality
also , nothing changed in the past. whatever they did was undone the moment they returned the stones. ancient one explained it very well. at the moment one stone goes away in that timeline , another timeline is created. BUT because steve returned the stones at the same time they took it , as banner says, that timeline never branched so the past goes normal . Loki escaping is explained in Loki the series. Time travel is hard to do because of the implications and plot holes but they did a very good job setting rules. thats why nebula didnt die when she shot herself , because changing the past doesnt change the future. One plot hole that excist , is the "one shot or nothing" because Pym was out. Scott could go back in time when he was working with Pym before thanos and takes as many pym particles they need so they could have alternatives , or some one could stay back , just in case . but that is a thing with most movies , always there is a thin that could be done . i dont mind it thought because after seeing it in cinema , i was with great feelings and happy and joy and sadness and loved it.
I won't say too much about Falcon and Winter Solider cause I assume you'll react to the show in the future, just going to say you guys and others have been focusing to much on Cap's physical traits as aposed to his personal traits which is why he was selected to get the serum in the first place. I love Bucky but you guys didn't even factor in the fact he's spent the majority of time as the winter solider one of if not the most feared assassins in the MCU world(Not out of choice but the fact remains) he only been in control of himself for 2 movies and between his appearances in them got snapped out of exist for 5 years, I'd say he's got far too much truama to deal and I believe Steve understood that better than any could at that moment. Bucky being friends with Steve longer isn't an argument for Steve to pass the torch to him. You can say Sam hasn't done anything to earn it I disagree that's just opinion tho but putting that aside by that logic you could say Steve done even less to be given the Captain America title if you go back to the first Avenger. On Nebula trying to alert them that Thanos knew about the plan, if she had used the pym particle and gone back to present day all that would mean she's back in the present day I'm not exactly sure how the communication works in relation to the time travel I've just assumed it only works if it's the same time so Cap, Tony, Scott and Bruce could communicate with each other cause it was 2012 and Nat, Clint, Rhodes and Nebula could communicate with each other cause it was 2014, I'm not sure if the ones who was in present day could talk to the ones still in the past cause I don't remember anyone from different years talking to each other at any point in the movie🤷🏿♂️ In hindsight you can say it was a nice easy decision for Nebula but from her perspective based on my understanding she's trying to warn Nat and Clint about Thanos cause at that point the only threat he poses to the future is if he can stop them getting the soul stone. This is based on the assumption Nebula thought she'd have more time before Thanos was able to reach her🤷🏿♂️
Very well spoken. I thought it was weird that they said the audience’s biggest problem with the film was Falcon getting the shield when that was not the case for anyone I knew who watched it. (Most of my circle are comic book fans so that may skew my perception some since in the comics Sam is a beloved Cap and has been for awhile). From what I remember, the biggest issue people had was the time travel thing. I remember there being debates all over about whether Cap messed up the timeline or not by staying in the past. So much so the Russo brothers and some of the script writers made statements about it.
Yeah I was initially fine with the time travel aspect just because they made a point of saying them changing events in other timelines don't affect ours. My main issue is with Steve traveling back, only way I could make sense of Steve being old is he went back and spent roughly 60 plus years with Peggy and returned to our timeline when the Steve of that timeline was out the ice and woken up, that would sort of explain the aging I can live with that. I was however very much curious as to how much Steve could have potentially affect the old timeline. In order for him not to drastically affect that timeline he would of had to completely restrain himself from getting involved in a few events that I personally struggle to see him not getting involved in. Far as I'm aware they wasn't specific about what year he's wen back to let's assume he went back to Peggy after her and Howard helped found Shield, could Steve avoid letting her know about Zola and Hydra infiltrating Shield baring in mind they had Bucky? I don't believe he could and if he rescued Bucky that would have an affect on Tony. If there's no Winter Soldier that means Tony's parents aren't assassinated, if Tony isn't the owner of Stark Industries does Obadiah supplying the ten rings? Does he try to kill Tony? Those factors combined with Tony feeling guilty about the company he owned supplying the ten rings is what shaped Tony into Iron Man and ultimately down the line become a hero. Does Steve inadvertently take Iron Man out of that timeline and effectively any characters that get introduced due to his involvement in the MCU such as Falcon, Wanda, Vision and Spider-Man? Thanos also succeeds in his mission without Iron Man, Unless Strange can find a way of preventing Thanos armed with the other 5 stones from getting the time stone🤔Did Steve inadvertently doom half of the universe in that timeline just to be back with Peggy🤔these are the questions I'm left with just because of the last bit of this movie🤣
@@Jacoc323 I think Steve went back in time in the original timeline but he just avoids any type of confrontation with team cause he knows if he does then the timeline would be screwed. So far we know that Peggy’s husband was low-key and didn’t even have a name so it’s really possible that her husband has been Steve all along. Sad part is, if it’s true then he didn’t even get a chance to be part of her funeral as her husband cause he knows original Steve would be there and how events are gonna fold from that point onwards with Winter Soldier and Sokovia accords.
The opening scene w Tony and Nebula is just underated..she doesn't know how to show it yet..but she got to win! Earlier in series explained how she always lost to Gamora, then was punished. Then right after taking care of Tony as he was dying..I think just gets glossed over..it's more powerful than ppl give credit.
To make it easier to understand, time travel is basically going to different “timelines” aka different universes so look at it as them going to a universe where the year is still at 2012, all this will make sense in the Loki series dw it’s not a spoiler
The time travel stuff is quite easy to understand if you rewatch the scenes where it’s explained in the movie. Changing the past doesn’t alter the current timeline. It simply creates a new branch (timeline) starting from where the change occurred. E.g, I go back in time and stop myself from eating a whole cake. That doesn’t mean I haven’t eaten the cake, it just creates a new timeline where there’s a version of me who never ate a whole cake.
According to Bruce that's false. He said "your former present becomes your past", so whatever you already did is still your past. And "if you travel to the past, that past becomes your future". There is no alternate timeline -- you're creating a new future in the past when you get there. Even if you didn't 'eat the cake' in your new future, you still ate it in your past.
Also, Nebula was frozen in place. she could speak but not move. That's why she couldn't go back right away. The two Nebula's consciousness were 'linked' if you will, and Thanos was able to control the future Nebula once they located her.
Changing things in the past does not change your present or future, it just creates different timelines. So the original mcu timeline is the same that is why they could not go back and kill thanos as a baby, it would not change their time line it would only create a new one. So for example, Cap saying hail hydra created a new timeline so the events of the winter soldier movie would not happen in that timeline but it would still have happened in the original timeline. Another example, when they killed past nebula, that would change the past timeline, but it would not change the present timeline so the present nebula would not die it would only create a new timeline.
The kid "whos this guy?" Lol Is The boy from Iron Man 3 when he falls out the sky & into a small town meeting the kid who kicked it with & got back on his feet' .. leaving him a present'
@@erikawilliams9558 when I say "you are stupid" I bet you'll not understand it because for years your friends and family would have told you you are smart......so that is ingrained in you so much that you cannot comprehend anything contradicting to that believe
@@erikawilliams9558 I think all of us grew being imprinted with Back to the future’s ideology of time travelling, doesn’t mean it’s that hard to get different perspective of time travelling in different movies. Time travelling is all about different takes, especially when it’s specifically referenced that it is not same as the iconic time travelling theory we’re grown up with (BTTF in this case). However the reactors still can’t understand a simple line. Even my 11 year nephew understood what Bruce meant.
A lot of the little nipicks that are in this movie that you think of and see are almost all not nitpicks, there are explanations for all of them, you could just watch a few videos explaining them to you. I feel like you guys rank movie on certain aspects you like thats why your tier list is not like mine at all with these three tier lists are almost completly not like mine and i dont agree with them but they are there own opinion
Yeah at times I see their lists and think their wrong imo but you also have to factor in we've had th chance to watch all these movies multiple times and our opinions on them can be influenced by other people, for them it's mostly first time watches. It would be very interesting to get their views and potentially an updated list after they've rewatched some of the movies
I’ve noticed many of their picks are totally biased than being objective. However as it’s their opinion and choice so I can’t say much about them. Must say their discussion for this movie really disappointed me cause they got triggered by things which logically weren’t triggering at all had they analysed it in different perspective.
When Red Skull tells them you have to lose that which you love to get the sould stone, I'm pretty sure he got banished there because he attempted to get it himself when he didn't love anyone.
God, I love Sam. From the beginning, Sam saw something in Cap that was hurting him. He only wanted to help a veteran/serviceman. It was only went circumstances presented themselves, in which he knew he could be an asset, that he gave his "resume." From the time Cap and Nat showed up at Sam's place, he was all in. Even when Cap told him he'd gotten out for a good reason Sam's response was, "Dude, Captain America needs my help. There is no better reason to get back in." He's been right with Cap since doing everything he does...just a little slower. Captain America Sam Wilson rocks.
So in the Vormir drop scene, the directors kept going back and forth between who should jump, and people on set, even custodians argued it would make more sense for nat to jump
I know people love Nat as a character and a lot of people take opportunity to shit o Clint forced imo but it makes way for sense for Nat to sacrifice herself than Clint it wouldn't even be a question of what character you prefer it should just be about what makes more sense specially with their individual character arcs
@@Jacoc323 I think even Scarjo said that she was surprised and didn't want to die, and saw some people say "yeah fuck them for killing her". But it's like, what do you want them to do? Not kill any character and make movies with them till the end of time? The movie needed some deaths (I'm still pissed that no one died when Thanos' ship blew up the whole Avengers building) and it was the better choice. And it's not our fault they didn't make a trilogy about Black Widow, which could've been so fuckin cool and be a spy thriller trilogy like Cap's trilogy, but they didn't. I think I read that since Ike Perlmutter was the CEO, he didn't think they should make movies with female leads. Hawkeye had a family and made sense to keep him alive and also end his story with his show. And we already saw that they couldn't care less about Black Widow with her solo, let alone making a trilogy. Yeah, it would've been cool if she was still around but Yelena is also cool and I love the actress, and I also thought they were gonna even kill Thor too, but they only did two of them. So I think it was necessary for her to die and not Hawkeye, and also wanted more deaths.
She had a more complete story arc than Hawkeye. Also after BW and Hawkeye show, they make sense of things really well and it was def the right decision
Yeah loved Nat, I love Clint as well so my opinion was never based on biased, if it was up to me and I had the opportunity to keep every character I like alive just from the MCU alone there would be a bunch of characters that didn't die and a whole bunch of characters that don't develop as a result of that. This is a perfect example of why most of us aren't in charge of scripts we all think we know best when these times we'd have ruined the MCU😂 I'm fine with them killing Nat the way they did, I personally wise they had respected her character more and had her movie like 6 years ago but at this point that's neither here or there what's done is done. I love Yelena sounds bad considering I've know Nat for what 12 years and Yelena for about a year or so but I'm starting to feel like I generally like her more as a character then Nat😮That's just after 1 movie appearance and 3 appearances on Hawkeye which is a massive credit to Florence Pugh and the 10/10 casting from the MCU💯
Nat was one of the characters who got they needed. Tony got to make peace with his father, Cap got his dance and his future with Peggy, Thor got to say farewell to his mother and embrace his own path... Natalie found a way to finally wipe the red from her ledger by saving billions of lives.
Leave it. No one cared about Wanda either until she becomes Scarlet Witch. People just can’t fathom that side characters are getting screen time cause acc for them side characters deserves to be sidelined without their own arc. This is what they did with Hawkeye too even though he’s one of the OG Avenger.
I watched this in theaters too! it was unparalleled!! especially the Steve holding Mjollnir, the theater erupted. Did you guys forget that Bucky was the Winter Solider?? and has murdered people, yes he wasn't all there but he did. and the whole world knows, so you can't have a literal murderer be a symbol. Same point you made to Hawkeye re-joining the team. Time Travel is slightly more explained in Loki Aqeel is going to *love* WandaVision!
You dont understand the Timetraveling in this Movie ! Its different than all other movies. Imagine that time is no flowing like a stream but more like a ball roling along with a bunch of other balls. IF YOU CHANGE SOME THING ON ONE BALL IT DOES NOT HAPPEN ON ALL THE OTHER BALLS. Tony meeting his father did NOT happen in Tony's original time line :) hope this helped you understand this movie a bit more. :)
And the commentary is where you lose me. Applying actual logic to a make believe world just doesn’t work. I enjoyed the movie for what it is- popcorn eating fun.
Buckets of Wheat knew that Cap wasn't coming back. He knew that Cap was going to go back to Peggy after he finished delivering the stones as Captain America Express delivery services. I agree that there are no bad movies in the Infinity Saga and yes, some are better than others. The way I put it with ranking these movies is a question. Are there any movies that I would not want to watch again?
All of your worries and concerns that you stated in the video after you watched the movie..... the MCU continues after Endgame. Currently, there are 6 Disney+ Marvel tv series that have already aired and 6 MCU movies that have already been released. In the rest of 2022, there is one more Disney+ TV series that will air, and 2 more scheduled. All of the worries and concerns that you brought up are talked about and dealt with at a later time.... specifically Wanda, Loki, Captain America-Falcon, Hawkeye, time travel.
You guys got the premise about time travel wrong. There are no paradoxes in MCU time travel. Going back in time creates an alternate time line. Killing Thanos in the past does nothing to affect their time line cause Thanos's snap already happened to them in their own time line. It just creates a new time line in which Thanos doesn't exist (but our heroes don't live in that new time line). Taking the stones from a different time line only affects that time line it was taken from. Returning the stones at the time they were taken corrects the problems that would affect that time line and erases the chaotic time line without stones. PS You'll have to watch the Loki series before anyone can answer Loki questions.
Also, if you listen to Bucky and Cap talking before Cap time travels, you would realize that they did have a conversation. Bucky knew that Cap was going to live in the past and that's why Bucky said that he will miss him.
Thanos is a Beast with out the stones. He just wanted the Power and accomplish his mission faster. Remember he was doing it planet to planet. With the stones it's a done deal.
They go back in time and created an alternate timeline. Just watch the part again when ancient one explains it. She does a good job but you will miss ot cause its a quick scene. And watch the tv show loki. It explains more. But gotta watch wandavision first then loki then falcon n winter soldier
If I remember correctly the biggest issue people had was with Cap staying back because people thought that he had messed up the timeline then. It was so much of a problem that the Russo Brothers and some of the script writers actually came out and made statements about how the timeline worked. No one that I knew really had a problem with Sam being given the shield. This may have something to do with Sam already being a beloved Cap in the comics for awhile now and my circle of people are primarily comic readers. It makes sense too in the MCU world because Bucky is only known as a fugitive who blew up the UN and a Hydra assassin for the last 70-ish years so for him to take up the Captain America mantle would cause a lot of problems. I hope you guys will react to the shows also, as I think the Falcon and the Winter soldier series goes into more detail on the meaning of the shield and why Steve made the choice he did. Besides the fact that the shows are in general pretty great and allow you to have more time with some of the characters that you don’t get to spend a lot of movie time with.
For the record, in the comic books Sam got the SHIELD and became the next Captain America. That is why they gave it to him in the movie. I like when they keep things as they were in the comics. It happens rarely enough that I love it when they get it right.
Just caught it, but first scene of Tony returning to earth Black Widow( Scarlett Johansen has long hair like it's 5 yrs later already..lol same hair when it's been 5 yrs. ...they mention it's only been 23 days since Thanos.
I believe the returning of the stones puts everything back. They also say, changing the past doesn't necessarily change the present. My 2 biggest issues with this movie are the girl power scene during the battle as it didn't just happen naturally, it was an obvious hey look at this scene. All the female heroes and only the female heroes just happened to be there at that moment and none of the male heroes? Also I always felt old man Steve Rogers should have been Stan Lee as his final cameo. Making all of his MCU cameos just him (Steve) checking on his old friends.
Hi guys, I'm sure other people have commented this before, but this type of time travel is different than most. So when you go back and change the past, even in a dramatic way, it does not change your present or future. What it does is that it changes the future of that timeline you traveled back to, but not your own. So the definitely did affect the future, just not their future
You guys are making the exact mistake Bruce told Rhody to not make, that is using Back to the future to explain time travel 😂 So, basically, if you go to the past and change something important, that will create a new parallel timeline (ex. 2012-Hulk messed up the plan, Tony lost the tesseract, Loki noticed it and took it to escape…. aaaand from this mistake “Loki” the tv show is created, but of course this is not our Loki anymore, it’s a new “variant” and 2012 has basically split, like the Sorcerer supreme explained to Bruce, creating a new parallel version of the world we already knew)…. So as for Nebula, present-Nebula killed her, but the latter was already another Nebula, because from the moment our Nebula was captured and 2014 Thanos & Co. travelled to 2023, the 2014 we witnessed in this movie had become a new parallel version of the 2014 we knew from previous movies. So, for example, if you go back in time and kill yourself, you create a parallel reality where, from that moment on you are dead, but the YOU who committed the crime can return to the present and continue it’s own existence like nothing happened. Hope everything is clear now 😅
That still doesn't clear everything up though, bc if it works that way, then how did Cap go to a different timeline, but then live his life and just show up at the right place and time in our timeline. Hulks explanation says one thing, but events show another.
@@Parallaxus I had that doubt too, but I think that since the “new” Thanos from 2014-parallel universe managed to arrive to our 2023 timeline, using the Pym particles in the quantum realm maybe means that not only you travel through space and time, but also through timelines. This is one possible explanation. The other one is that for Thanos we can use the same theory, while Cap has always been the husband Peggy mentioned in an old interview shown at the Smithsonian (I think in Captain America - the Winter soldier), meaning that Steve was always meant to go in the past and stay there. I’d love to think this is the right explanation, but the first one maybe is more plausible 🤷🏻♀️ So Cap went back to the 40s and decided to stay there, creating, as a consequence, a new parallel timeline where he lived with Peggy until he became old, and then, maybe around the same year of our 2023, he return to our (his original) timeline to meet Sam and to give him a new shield.
@@Parallaxus Cap didn’t go to a different timeline… when he decided to go back further in time, instead of coming back to 2023, a new timeline created itself, where he lived and grew old with Peggy…. Of course, being a supersoldier made him grow old slower than her, and at one point, I think we he felt it was the right moment, he decided to use the Pym particles, existing in the parallel timeline too, and travelled through the quantum realm to arrive exactly at the moment he knew he was supposed to come back when he left in his original timeline.
@@giuliacheney I think the first theory is correct. They can travel through not only to their respective timelines but in our OG timeline too. Peggy never revealed who her husband nor was he ever shown so it’s high likely that Steve had been the husband all along. He intentionally never intervened with the story so that the timeline works the same way as it did in events of Endgame.
