Aventon Level 2: This Single Upgrade Changes Everything! 

Gonna go look at it, just ordered an aventure and the only thing I've been seeing is how poor their customer service is but the bikes are good.

@@upsidedownpeon9984 It seems like a lot of people are just impatient and demand unrealistic things. Both my wife's bike and mine have had issues and they stood by their brand and made it all right.

@@EricReviews indeed, though I find it weird. ordered mine on tuesday 10/19 and just got my tracking number today that says it should be delivered 10/20. I'm in Tennessee so this is crazy fast too me.

@@upsidedownpeon9984 That is odd. Does it show the transit information? Perhaps they're shipping it from a local dealer instead of their warehouse.

Glad it was helpful!

@@freshlycharged I may buy one after the first of the year. The only question I still have is if I should hold out for a mid-drive bike. I know it will cost me ~$1,000 more. Just still evaluating that.

I would take this bike over the Pace. Cadence sensors are a little bit faster at accelerating but you have that delay and runoff when you stop pedaling.

Glad you're loving it!

@@specialist-in-tech That is my concern. I'm starting to have some minor knee issues as I'm getting close to 50. I really want to upgrade to the 2 but worried about this.

@@ace00007 As I've tested these out further, the torque sensing is a bit more amplified on these Level's than the usual torque sensing found on mid drives or other hub drive ebikes that happen to have it. What I found is in assist level 1, you can surprisingly get up to 20 mph. Very unusual to have that kind of speed in Level 1. The impact of this is, if you then go to put in assist level 2, the amplification becomes stronger, so that means you can achieve the same speeds with less effort. Usually each level of assist is more limited in the speed range it allows, so while I don't know what your ability is to provide effort into pedaling, its likely you will find it easier on the knees than other torque sensing ebike brands. Cadence sensing will always be the easiest on knees, but this is not bad on the way these Level.2's are programmed. Really its best to actually test ride these ebikes before buying, as its as much about the overall fit and ride posture, which translates to comfort and more enjoyment.

Have you tried the ripcurrent s

Cheap disc brakes are horrible. I had them on my heybike Ranger and I know what you mean. They were strong, but screeched like crazy with no way to fix it short of replacing them. These Tektro hydraulic brakes are a lot better.

Thanks Timmy! This is a good one!

Shop it around for sure. I have a folder that I like, but they do have some disadvantages. If you mean the XP 2.0, make sure you are comfortable with the range. It’s got a pretty small battery that is part of how they keep cost down and I see people talking about getting 10-12 miles if you are going quick, 20+ mph. I can get more like 20 miles riding like that, which is easier to live with. If you have to budget in buying an extra battery for your use case, it starts putting you in a higher budget class, which mind change what you want to buy.

One thing about Lectric is that, except for the XP Lite, they all have fat tires, which are quite inefficient on road. If you want to go faster than 10 or 12 mph, it's going to drain your battery QUICKLY. I have an XP Lite and I had a heybike Ranger with the fat tires, and while they were super-nice in grass or dirt, they were loud and draggy on pavement.

The 2.125 inch tires are plenty wide for traction. I have a trek Verve non electric with 1.5 inch wide tires and wish they were at least 2.1.

Which bike do you have that cuts out at 9mph?

That's why you unlock level 3...

@@chrisE815What does that have to do with what I said about Ghost Pedaling?

I didn't notice any delays in the throttle. A bike we tested today had a major delay and I normally pick up on it. I'll ride it some more and keep you posted if I feel a delay.

@@Andrew-vt4jt Sounds great, Thank you!

From what I’ve read and seen I’m pretty sure the delay in the thumb throttle’s response is an Aventon thing. My Aventure also has a delay before the motor responses to the throttle input. Owned it over a year now and it still bothers me. I find it both annoying and potentially dangerous. I’m curious to know if the new Level has the same problem also. 95% of my riding is on paved surfaces I think the new Level may be a better choice for me, If…

@@kev8839 I think if Aventon at least shortened the delay to max 0.5-1 second, which I'm sure they can by reprogramming the controller, it would be my number 1 choice for ebikes. I love the quality and aesthetics but the delay really takes out the fun. I've gotten used to near instant throttle response of e-scooters haha

We received the regular and I'm 6 feet tall.

They're up to $2050 now. (probably tariff-related)

Level.2

@@freshlycharged thanks, mate

Trek has been part of the problem all these years- they import cheap bikes and sell it for double their cost. Now you can get factory shipped ebikes for less than the cost of a Trek mountain bike!

Yes

That IS a shame for the dealers, but there don't seem to be too many. I bought mine from an Indian motorcycle dealer. Are they cutting them out now? On the flipside, it's nice to see Best Buy continuing to carry quality products, instead of just going cheap, like everyone else. For example, their home loudspeakers are pretty high-end.

Buy direct… I just did

Buy from a local bike shop. Build that relationship. They’ll take care of you when your bike needs attention (or warranty work)

​@@Jordanealme too. other day.

It has an IPX4 water resistance rating so it can be ridden in light rain.

They haven't said anything to me. I was surprised this bike came out because when we reviewed the new Pace, they said they weren't releasing any new bikes this year.

@@Andrew-vt4jt thanks. I’m considering an Aventure. I’m on the fence without it but take my money if it had a torque sensor!

@@SeanPCowan would be sweet if they added a torque sensor to it.

@@specialist-in-tech bummer. Why not??

Regular

Normally I would agree but I like that Aventon does range test in each pedal assist level. Rather than most just posting a general number.

Yes. But also a lot more expensive.

A lot more expensive, but ‘better’ is very subjective. Usually mid drives run at lower watts like 250 watts and lower voltages. Slightly more efficient but they crater your chains and cassette way faster. Also costly pm intervals on mid drive motors. So if you like spending big bucks go for a ‘efficient’ mid drive. Best bang for buck is always hub drive.

$1949 US dollars

Great tip!

One consideration. If you leave your bike in a garage or shed in the heat of the summer, that prolonged heat is not good for the battery. Much better to take the battery of and keep it in your house.

We've reviewed one before in the past. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4U7L3yzxcqM.html

Yeah there’s atleast 2 that I know of the pedal electric one and the Ariel grizzly.

@@Andrew-vt4jt that’s great! Now just needs a 72 volt swap and 50 amp controllers!

I totally agree with you. The extra $300 or so is probably the best thing for me. I used to think I could get it direct and save a lot of money. But after reading many comments, I'd hate to spend $2,000 or so and have a bike with problems that I read about. Haydon, you made my decision for me! I don't think I will buy a bike online.

It’s incredibly easy to get used to a left throttle.

54 lbs but it rides like a traditional bike. The geometry of the bike and gearing are true to a traditional bike. A lot of ebikes we review feel clunky.

It's for bike riders who want exercise plus longer distance. They also carry their groceries or books for school or work with proper accessories. Not to be compared with scooters at all.

yeah but who wants to ride a scooter

@@mikec4308people that want to go faster than 28 lol

Where have you seen: "you can't ride this in the rain"? Because I haven't seen anything saying you can't ride this in the rain

28 mph is the limit a class 3 ebike can go. Other bikes are walking a fine line with regulation. We'll probably have to register them sooner than later because of it. However, I do love fast ebikes! 🤣

Agree. It will be gutless. Ariel Rider or Amp Rides is my fav

Explain the applications then

Which commuter ebike would you recommend then? One that was not "boring, gutless, teped, etc. Thx

@@getech Did you hear the "Woo hoo" he did when he cranked the throttle? It lacked excitement and commitment. I have to wonder how many times he rehearsed it or how many takes they did before it didn't come out totally bored and uninterested. Jimmy knows what decently powerful EV's are and this bike isn't remotely close. *** YT won't let me post URLS for stuff. It's considered marketing that they don't sponsor. If the bike doesn't have at least 2000w on board I'm immediately not interested. Anything where the pack tucks into a pocket in the frame is a bad idea! you are probably stuck with whatever dismal battery the bike manufacturer offers. If I see that the thing is way too integrated and the parts are highly customized, then generic parts don't fit and you are stuck with whatever the people the make it offer. That's usually a bad deal and the parts are over priced. Things that are made with ready made parts from a dozen sources is the way to go. Stuff breaks or you want to upgrade and can't becasue you bought a proprietary setup from XYZ company that can't let go of the hook they have in your mouth and they know you HAVE to come back to them for everything! *** This bike has a decent frame and suspension front and back. It's 48v and I consider that to be low, but tolerable. I build at 82v or higher,. It's tons better than the 36v bike in this video! The frame has lots of potential for upgrades with standard bike parts. Probably the motor can be over watted a fair bit if you get bored with the acceleration. Higher voltage will get you more top speed. I'm not fond of the wheels becasue they can't ever be upgraded without total replacement. I consider this bikes specs the minimum requirement. It's not fast by my standards, but it's a place to start. Anyway, go search for this on amazon: X20 Electric Bike 20" x 4.0 Fat Tire Electric Bicycle with 2000W Motor, 48V 15/20/25/30AH Removable Battery *** Here's another bike that ought to get you started and not be entirely boring. This style of bike is mostly made from off the shelf parts that you can get anywhere. I went to electricbikeparadise dot com and found the "aostirmotor-s17-1500w-48v-20ah-1500w-fat-tire-electric-mountain-bike". It's a bike I'd say meets the minimum requirements and can be upgraded with generic parts. *** Same seller, look at the "delfast-top-3-0-dual-suspension-electric-mountain-bike". This frame and bike style is wildly popular because it is so flexible and robust and ready for upgrades and options. Pretty much nothing about it is proprietary. Yes it costs a lot more, but you are getting a LOT more e-bike too! If you go to the FAcebook forum e-bike custom, you will find hundreds of people on there who have bought the parts to make this bike or one very similar to it. It's a great design and pretty much the skies the limit with what you can do with it. Personally, I'd get the parts and build it myself for less than half of what the Delfast Top 3.0 costs.

@@de-bodgery in my state, e-bikes are limited in class 2 to 750 watts and 20 mph max assist speed. So, that is why these e-bikes are designed with restrictions. They can legally be ridden on local multi-use paths. They are bicycles, not scooters or motorcycles. This is a good bike for the purpose intended, but not for all intentions. I ride a motorcycle for when i need speed: not interested in some half-way hybrid.