Obedience i sztuczki z 2-letnim owczarkiem holenderskim ------------------------------------- Obedience and tricks with 2-year old Dutch Shepherd // Like us on Facebook! / avisneverendingdream
Very nice work! I absolutely love my dutchie. I'm always fascinated with their ability to catch on to new things so quickly. One of the easiest dogs I've ever trained.
Amazing dog, thinking about getting one myself. Just wondering how tall are they from there front legs paws to the tips of there ears, also how tall are you? Once again amazing work.
+Garrett MacKinnon I measured him, he's ca 83 cm from the ground to the tips of ears (I'm 169 cm tall). For me they are not so big compared to german shepherd for example :) They have different build, are more compact, much lighter etc.
Hey beautiful vid 👍 I have a very important question, are Dutchies actually able to adapt to a family living environment despite the fact that they're working dogs? I've did my research don't get me wrong, I'm just wondering if they'd become aggressive or destructive if they'd only get 1-2 hours of walking a day?
Hi! I think it depends on the line from which you get your dog. Avis isn't from exact working (Schutzhund, police, military etc) line, he has mixed pedigree between dogs training Schutzhund and herding etc. Actually he is family dog, now I have 1,5yr old son :D He is not destructive despite has less active life than before... He just has normal walks with me and my son, when he can explore environment and eventually chase or look for the hidden ball ;) Once a week we do agility training. I can't tell he's destructive or aggressive because of that, but for sure little more excited/heated? And yes, sometimes he take random toy to destroy it, but never did it on furniture/walls/his bed or so. In my opinion dutch shepherd can live as a family dog BUT it need to do some job, then is happier for sure ;) It shouldn't be just 1-2 hours daywalking all his life, but if that's a period of life, should cooperate. For family dog I would definately search for more show/herding/obedience/search dog lines, not a true working line where all dogs in pedigree worked biting (Schutzhund/mondioring/french ring/police/miliary). Not the best english, but hope you get the clue :D
Ciężko jest jednoznacznie odpowiedzieć na to pytanie, bo są różne linie holendrów ;) Mój egzemplarz nie jest nadpobudliwy, w domu jest spokojny, mieszkam w bloku, teraz jest małe dziecko i niewiele robimy, brak regularnych treningów, a mimo to da się normalnie z nim żyć. Łatwo go nakręcić, ale też łatwo uspokoić. Co do skupiania uwagi... u nas był duży problem z pracą w nowych miejscach, stres i brak mózgu, ciężko było o współpracę. Nie jest to jednak reguła, a raczej taki egzemplarz (i moje błędy) - zwłaszcza, że to dałoby się wypracować przy sumiennej, regularnej pracy, której nie było, a i tak jest lepiej niż kiedyś ;) Holendry są moim zdaniem bardziej niezależne... Mój przynajmniej taki jest, nie jest psem trzymającym się tyłka na spacerach - lubi daleko odchodzić, nawet w nieznanym terenie :P Nie miałam do czynienia z belgami (malinami) - więc ciężko jest mi porównać.
Do Dutch shepherd vary between working dogs / pet dogs lines in terms of temperament and drive etc... Do the color, coating or the length of their hair reflect on the line bread I.E. pet or working line etc... Or are they all the same but depends on how you train them?
In my opinion they do vary between pure working lines (like KNPV) and more show/pet lines. I'm sure the KNPV and the like lines can be much more drive, but all Dutch Shepherds are full of energy and temperament. The difference is that KNPV Dutchies are mixed with Belgian Malinois (or other breed like German Shepherd), they do not look on colors nor general look (exterior), so they can be really differen between each other. They are often much darker, even all black or sadle. About hair - Dutchies comes in 3 varieties - shorthair, longhair and wirehair - and they do vary between each other. It's not about breedlines, they are different, separate varieties of the breed (f. ex. on shows judged separately and usually not mixed between)
Thank you for your respond. I agree with your statement on the KNPV working dog line however; what i want to under stand if the (pure) Dutch breed, vary in temperament between the all three Dutch types? I.E. Shorthair, Longhair and Wirehair as the working lines usually chose Shorthair?! Thanks again cheers.
Yes, they do vary. Not sure about temperament, but longharis (the less popular, they almost extinct after I World War and need to be "rebuild") are believed to be more sensitive, they need more socialization, easier to "screw up" with the wrong treatment, can be fearfull etc. Wirehairs are more hard, stubborn and I read somehere they are "clowns" in the breed. I think they need more time and patience in training. Shorthairs are te most popular, used in dog sports and services (police, military, rescue etc), so it looks like they have better predispositions for this ;)
Compliments....just one question how is working with sheeps or other animals? Is it working so good also with in a place with a lot of distractions. I have got a dutch shepherd wired hair and is amazing is learning really fast but wish is going to become my utility dog as I am paraplegic and I will do some movies one day when I will buy a proper camera and I will learn how to make a serious movie.
Hi! We have tried herding with him, and he was ok, but we don't train herding (just tried it two times). Unfortunately he has problem with wild animals - he chase them and I need to look on him when we walk in woods. Also he's not perfect with the distractions :/ But we did pretty well on obedience competitions (we took 2nd place in klass 0, and 5th in klass 1)
AvisTV cool That tipical of dutchs I find the way to avoid him running behind wild animals Bram first time get almost lost behind a wild rabbit But now after 1 year of training is really good I guess he need just to get used Like with sheeps I bought 5 A rabbit A pig And so on So for Bram is not so interested to play with them so much. Cats are the only problem But is not such a big problem Cause he grew up with a little cat so he knows how to "play" with them. He play with horses and cows as well He is a bit crazy But This is a Dutch Shepherd world It is not a chiwuawua 😂
AvisTV About distractions It depends how much energy has got in his body Bram after 1 hour of running Not walking Running in Stert huge forest close to a big river where we go everyday Is really good Or I have to use chicken wings his favorite food There are not distraction .. Holland Dutch Shepherd expert told me that they become adults when they are 3 years old so they will be less playfully so less distractions Bram will be 2 years in Agoust I do not train him so much for tricks But it is really funny. The only problem is to find in Italy a good female one to breed I wish to have a second DS But I am not in hurry Too much work I need to finish Bram. Training first then he will help me with his daughter 😉
It's hard to tell how long, because we do train everyday a few minutes just on walks or in home ;) Some commands are easier some harder to understand, so sometimes you need just one lesson, sometimes a few, sometimes a week, etc. I do only short sessions for one trick, f.ex. 5-10 min. Of course usually I combine a few things in one training (in different stages of knowing). Training is just fun, so we play and train in one. He loves to do something, no matter what, so when he's bored I do some tricks with him and he's happy then :D Actually he will be 3 year old in January :) And as I said - training with dog for me is a everyday "work". Many of these things aren't perfect for me as for today and we are still working on them to get better and better! ;)
+Paul Gustin there are breeders of dutch shepherds in the USA :) but many of them are mixes with belgians or german shepherds, bred for police, military etc... Not sure how much they cost in Netherlands, it was ca 650 euro 3 years ago. I have no idea how much it's to import a puppy to the USA
It seems that a lot of people here in the states believe that Dutch Shepherds are just brindle Malinois, while people from the Netherlands state that although the DS and Malinois are very similar, they are in fact different breeds. I don't know which one is true, but I've seen both opinions. What breeder in Europe is he from?
Hi! For me Dutch Shepherd is a Dutch Shepherd and Belgian Malinois is a Belgian Malinois ;) They are different breeds, altough with common history. We can say they were the same a years ago, but when Belgium and Netherlands get separated, they wanted to separate the breeds too and first what they do was differ them by colors. In Europe they are not mixed (unless somebody want a mix of course for some purpose), but the FCI pedigree dogs actually can't be mixed (when you can f.ex. breed Belgian Groenendael with Tervueren etc legally). In the US, from what I know, you rarely have pure-bred DS - they are often mixed with Malinois and German Shepherds (for police/military work mainly) - so maybe that's why its the same for them :P In theory DS is an easier to handle version of Malinois (more social, less drive, can be family/pet dog when you give some exercise). Of course it all depends from what line do you take the dog, because working- vs exterier-line make a huge difference :D We are from Poland, and Avis was bred here too. His mother was imported from Netherlands (v.d.s'-Gravenschans kennel), his father is from Germany (Boyd's Bullriding kennel) but live in Schwitzerland :)
+Kamcia I have a working female German Shepherd from the old Czech border patrol lines of Z Pohranicni straze. She's almost five years old now and is a great family dog. She's loyal, protective, smart, silly, very athletic, and has the kind of drive that was appropriate for my skill level when I first got her. I have been interested in Dutch Shepherds for some time now, and the type of temperament the pure bred Dutch Shepherd has as you described is exactly what I'm looking for. The Malinois scares me a bit because I'm not sure I could handle a dog with the kind of drive I hear and read described about them. Dutch Shepherd's are not as common as the German Shepherd's and Belgian Malinois' here in the United States, and finding breeders is more difficult. That's why I inquired about the breeding of your dog. He is a fantastic looking dog. My main concern is the health and temperament of a dog, but I do appreciate and awe at the brindle coat and physical characteristics of the Dutch Shepherd. Are there any breeders in Europe that you would recommend that import to the United States?
+AV1776 Dutch Shepherd are a separate breed. Registered through AKC if they are FCI. They are not belgian malinois. The dutch shepherd was purposely breed brindle to distinct them from all other shepherds..
