Looking to sell two awesome coolermaster keyboards. hit me up for details. jk i wanted these keyboards to be amazing because they look so good. But they're terrible. DON'T BE FOOLED
Do you think that a similar kind of design (flat keycaps, laptop style) but with regular cherry switches and correct spacing between keys could work? I just can't stand those keyboards that look like they're straight up from the '70s...
u are wrong Sir! we love hearing critical feedback. It’s hard to please everyone with every product so that’s why we have a wide selection with different switches, features, sizes, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Thousands of people around the world have already gotten these boards without complaint. The switches themselves are called “low profile switches” and we never advertised the board as being a low profile keyboard.
@@CoolerMasterGaming So nice of you checking user's response. I really respect your level of concern on customer satisfaction. Unlike these Bullshit Dell guys, who ignore you right in your face with Coil Vineing XPS 15.
What? It literally says “low profile” on your channel. How is that not “advertising”. Stop it - you guys make a good looking keyboard that’s not comfortable to type on. Just learn from your mistakes. No need to make excuses. Just looks petty. Send the next model with improvements to Dave if you’re serious about this product.
The Hairmonster101 My point is that prior to watching this video, I had never seen a keyboard video or shown interest to keyboards yet one day my recommended is full of keyboard related videos. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not
But hey, it's RGB, which gives you 20% more fps. And if you set the leds to green, your pc will use less power and if you set them blue, your pc will run cooler.
I'm using the SK650 right now prior to my review. Not the easiest to type on and definitely expensive by comparison. I think it's more a showpiece than it is a truly "functional" keyboard.
Hey ScienceStudio, the keyboard takes about a week to get used to. We’ve been using them in the office and they’re more spaced it and better to type on than laptops. We all have our new travel keyboard now!
L Raven he lists each reason, also, there is no benefit to making a bad review. If anything, he is losing a brands trust in him just for an honest review. Also you spelled unbiased wrong.
i like the style of this video. short, clean, to the point, yet thorough in your assertions. i currently use a cheap amazon keyboard that bends under the weight of my hands, and while it works and i actually really enjoy the way the keys feel, i am really excited to get into keyboards.
One of the best, or at least more comfortable quiet which I LOVE and great for typing keyboards ive ever bought was a standard $20 wireless logitech keyboard (cant quite remember but it was cheap)
I love the fact how it has a daughter board for the type c port, so that you can repair it when the type c port failes. that's good engineering to me. yes it makes the board a bit higher, but certainly not that much if you engineer it right.
Dude I just bought it and returned it. The actual switches themselves type like *ss. They're horrible - worse than a membrane keyboard. Not only that if you are going to be replacing a daughter board it's not a stretch to re-solder a USB connector. I've soldered/switched micro-USB on a Bluetooth speaker... I'm not sure how much harder USB-C is but the micro-USB didn't require any specialized solder tips - just good flux and a 25$ soldering iron with smaller tip..
Imo Dave is the best and most honest reviewer. I was really attracted to this keyboard myself. Dodging this one until coolermaster makes a revision that is Dave approved. :P
At first I thought Dave was too low energy, but his consistency and honesty makes it so easy to trust his views. He never spins bad information to be 'might not be for everyone' etc.
Hey Jun, it’s always great to see different views on our products. We’re one of the first to design a whole board for “cherry mx low profile switches.” And full disclaimer, we never advertised this board as a “low profile keyboard,” although it is a lot slimmer compared to the average mechanical keyboard. It’s all personal preference. We wanted to make something sleek and slim but with a great cherry mx typing experience.
For honest review, shout out to Flossy Carter. He's doing the best honest reviews in the game. But Dave is right there with much more cool animation and more entertaining stuffs.
Hey Marc, yep we wanted to design a whole new layout for Cherry MX’s new low profile switches. We wanted it to be sleek, slim and reach out to different demographics. Like most slim keyboards, the keycaps are not replaceable and we had to design our own stabilizers to have it work with the size of the board.
Hey do the hexgears x-1 still have the problem with the actuation point and the tactile bump not being aligned with the choc whites and the choc brown because I was considering getting the choc reds because they're linear so they won't have that problem
My own experience, the connection is just horrible. Bluetooth connection always drop and require re-pair. And the white switch also occasionally miss a key
Was seriously about to buy this CoolerMaster model. It was between this and the Keychron K3. Thanks for saving me some headaches with the Coolermaster. Going with the K3 instead now.
The separated USB connector is actually a very good design choice because keyboards with detachable cables are notorious for having loose USB ports after a while of use, so the separated chip is easier and cheaper to replace. Keychron has no plans to make layouts for non-US so that's out the window for me.
no no don't do that please for the love of god don't you will have a lot of typos and you're just gonna press random keys Trust me i have experience and am writing on a keyboard like this and have already made 7 typos so just don't
the intro music is sick dude! so chill. back then when we still don't have smartphone, we gotta be careful when disassembling keyboard buttons... if we forgot the correct arrangement, we're kinda screwed until we see another keyboard haha.
Got the larger one for my mother's office setup for $75 buck off amazon. Its used in a professional environment, minimalist. Took about half a week for her to flow but she loves it. Its advantages are its aesthetics and that it feels like a superior laptop keyboard, something that appeals to some people, but not others. If you have a minimalist docking setup, this is nice.
4:33 is where you can hear how the keys sound -- thank you for this -- i wanted to hear what they sounded like before committing to a new keyboard -- currently using a Logi K750
Okay so I want to defend this keyboard. At least to the extent that I can. I have had this (SK630) keyboard for a week now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but D2D did make some valid points. 1. It isn't THAT low profile but it is a lot better than what I am coming from and is still great for me 2. Key caps are pretty close together but its better than my laptop so I am already used to it 3. Key caps have no dish but it a low profile keyboard and I don't think it would look right if it did Other things Eber from HardwareCunucks said: 1. No mute key but can be programmed in with software 2. No brightness control but can be changed in the software by adding more black to the color 3. No height adjust feet but I don't use anyways Responding to RandomFrankP - I wanted the Hexgears X1 sooo bad but a lot of the customer reviews complained about manufacturing issues and it is currently unavailable in most configs Pros of this keyboard: 1. Software - total key remapping and macros that allow mouse clicks too 2. shorter than most standard keyboards 3. I trust cherry and cooler master alot more than the smaller companies and Choc switches 4. light but does not move on desk and does not flex at all All in all I love the keyboard and I don't mind some of the short comings or quirks that it has. Its not for everyone but I love it!
Replying to your first statement. The keyboard is indeed lower profile than most gaming keyboards you would find, but if you can ditch the lighting there are keyboards with normal Cherry MX switches that are only 3mm higher. The Cherry MX Board 3.0 for instance is only a tad higher, the price is a lot lower and it doesn't have the problem with spacing that was mentioned. MX Board 1.0 is the same height, it even includes lighting and still has regular sized Cherry MX. It just doesn't feel right when keyboards that aren't marketed as low-profile are 1/10 higher or not at all than a keyboard that is designed to be low profile
never had a prob on laptop keyboards. lenovo even releases a separate thinkpad keyboard with dished and contoured keycaps. just something to get used to, not a defect.
I have been using a cooler master cmstorm quick fire rapid with cherry mx brown for 5 or so years and i love it. I have other mechanical keyboards, but this is the one i keep comming back too. Thanks for the information and time to put this video togther. Respect and apperication. Videos are time, work , and praise is deserved
if you're into a gaming review channel, check out Unwrap, they are pretty good at video games and i really like their reviews. they might do a review on a gaming mouse or keyboard and sometimes theyll compare big streamer's mice headphones, keyboards, bungees, ect.
I will say after having the CoolerMaster SK650 for a year, it was definitely a challenge not hitting almost every key at once when first using it, but after a while it stopped becoming a problem, but during then; how it looked and felt still outweighed how difficult it was to type on at first.
@zuckdaddy1596 I don't believe I did, I haven't used that keyboard in a while, but I have a friend still using them without issues, you might have just been unlucky.
I wish you said more about the issues with the Keychron K1, mainly that the keys fire before the click. The Hexgears X-1 also seem to have a similar issue. For a lot of people, this is a dealbreaker, as the click is supposed to serve as an indication for the actuation point. Unfortunately though, as far as I know, there isn't currently a good chiclet TKL keyboard with back lighting (mechanical or not).
Damn Dave, first time seeing one of your videos and wow you actually reviewed and compared them in a meaningful extensive way! Taking them apart, comparing them to multiple other keyboards and demonstrating the quirks on these seemingly 'universal' features. Amazing! Best of all you even recorded the sound of typing on them in quick succession, you can tell so much about a keyboard by how it sounds, it's a major aspect. I hit the keys hard but shallow, and so big, heavy, clicky mechanical switches don't suit me because it sounds like I'm drumming and occasionally the keys won't register because I don't depress them far enough, so I use low profile, short & flat keyboards that are quiet. Was seriously interested in the concept of a low profile mechanical keyboard but your review has saved me like what $150? Thanks man. Genuinely. Thank you. Subbed.
Hi Dave. Great vid as usual. :) They need to create a keycap set for these but with a strong angled bezel to make the top of the cap take less space which in turn will spread them apart. They should also make the whole set to have a concave curvature (albeit shallower) along the vertical axis as in a normal mech keyboard. With those in place they would have a nice KB. The sound of the keys is quite perfect already. Optionally, since the keycap's bezel are angled they could leave the last 2mm at the bottom of each cap white, allowing the caps to have a nice RGB lit border. CoolerMaster should just team up with Corsair and both use iCUE (make iCUE a framework for all these companies) instead of competing for RGB implementations. Having multiple RGB apps is a big NO NO! Wireless makes no sense, who would bring a laptop along with a KB anyway? Only pro gamers I guess, and they prefer to go wired anyway. So I would save the cost of a wireless device and use the extra resources to create a better keyboard.
I don't know why people keep complaining about spacing! I actually can't type on the typical mechanical keyboards because the keys are too far apart and I always hit the side of the keys
For me, if the keys are too close, I struggle to type as I keep hitting adjacent keys to the ones I target. For example, I have two keyboards - a Dell KB216 full size Chiclet membrane keyboard and a Logitech K230 compact wireless keyboard. The former has large spacing and is much, more easy to use and accurate than the latter in which the keys are way too close to each other. I will be receiving my first ever mechanical keyboard - Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED, Cherry blue - today and will see how it goes. PS: I think people complain about spacing for the same reason that you do. You need short spacing while others need full spacing.
Is the Keychron K1 really $75 for an RGB, Bluetooth, mechanical keyboard?! And one that looks so good AND charges over USB-C?!?! It looks way too good to be true for such a low cost.
For the money of the rgb version you could also get an anne pro 2. Not low profile, but it has the features you listed and im really loving it right now
In the market for a new keyboard and finally I come across a host that not only understands what it is he's talking about but delivers it soundly as well. Nicely done, and agree with your review.
got it, despite all of the reviews saying "it's shit" best keyboard i ever got. I was worried about the keys as well, but once you get used to it, your hand flies very fast over the caps! great keyboard
@@marcusborderlands6177 many ! many many keyboards. once you get used to this thing, its the best ever! VERY nice to type on, and the media keys are fantastically placed when you use your thumb on the fn symbol, you can change media easily even when gaming. it's awesome!
Just picked up a Roccat Vulcan - Low Profile Keyboard - for just $75 at a second hand shop (was still new). Really pleased with it so far. Kind of loud, but other than that.
I actually like how they have the USB C PCB seperate from the main PCB, it makes it easier to replace the port down the line (and my family usually needs to retire keyboards because of damages connectors that we don't have time to fix, which meana we often end up purchasing a ton of cheap keyboards).
I am using a keyboard and mouse combo of 9$ ... But hey ...they have rgb ... Not real rgb its just rainbow colour coming from back ...no movements nothing lol...it still looks good tho
I don't know exactly how they marketed it, but I interpret "low profile" to be the switch height (ie. it has low profile switches). Not specifically the keyboard thickness itself. I'm way more interested in the key travel, if it's high I'll just use a wrist support.
Hi Dave, can you recommend any low profile 75% or 60% keyboards? The Keychron K1 looks great but is far too big at 87 keys. The SK621 as you point out is not low profile. Same with the Royal Kludge RK61/Skyloong K61/Anne Pro 2/Ducky One2/Vortexgear Pok3r. The Hexgears X-1 is close but too big, same with Tesoro and Havit KB390L. The few serious options I can see are the Logitech K380, Bazalia 8839, Magic_Refiner MK10 and Apple Magic Keyboard but they all have their flaws...
I'd also consider a compact board with ten key and bluetooth as long as it's low-profile. Unfortunately there are only really two realistic candidates, the Hexgears X-1 and Drevo Joyeuse version 1. Unfortunately both are almost impossible to find and the X-1 has many flaws including very flaky bluetooth and faulty switches while the Drevo is even rarer in the bluetooth form, is a bit bulky and has that hideous gap. My endgame would probably be a bluetooth Vortex Tab 90M but without the bezel and with low profike keys instead of the massive ones it sports. A Red Scarf III or Vortex Race 3 colour scheme for keycaps would be great too.
I come from a lapop and from a logitech k360, and this keyboard looks terrific to me in comparison with a classic mechanical keyboard. It depends what you are used too.
