I am the person you are watching and listening in this video. Thank you very much for your kind words. I never would have looked at it that way. And, by the way, this video was actually filmed in 2012 and not 9 years ago.
This is not a level of rhythm, this is a level of modular arithmetic. Aspire to this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e6avrxvSZTM.html&t=168 . This silly short riff has more quinary spirit in it than all youtube tutorials combined.
Auto pilot feet: Learn the 4:3 pattern until internalized, the hands are a pattern over it like any other. Most drummers are not thinking of 4 different things here. Auto pilot feet, 1/8th note rhythm with hands (The fact that is a 5 beat groove seems harder than it is, the body won't mind as much)
@@Mussi93 i understand your words, but l disagree. Twas because of talent that Mozart wrote his first concerto around 6 years old, while most are learning the alphabet at the same age. And then there's the freakishly talented Chris Coleman.
5/4 and 7/8, although odd time signatures, have always felt so naturally hypnotic and almost tribal. they're both like the perfect rhythm for the flow of the soul and amazing to meditate and spiral out to. Or maybe that's just my take because of liking prog music for so many years lol
I doubt it's just the prog fan in you lol! I'm no expert but I grew up steeped in choral and folk lit, and from my exposure, you're spot on with the tribal vibes :) A bunch of the coolest chantiest danciest tunes I've ever sung have been in funky 5s, 7s, and a good dash of 9s (the unevenly subdivided kind, my favorite being 2-2-2-3), with most of these being choral arrangements of traditional songs with rich deep histories. (A great folk song in 5/4, about which I've heard several conflicting backstories, is "Turn the World Around" as recorded by Harry Belafonte -- yes, THAT Harry Belafonte -- and it's a beautiful jam, definitely worth looking up! I think the video of it on here of him performing it on the Muppet Show calls it "Earth Song" in the title.) Also, a cool professor of mine once pointed out that asymmetrical time signatures and use of polyrhythms in much non-"""western""" music can be viewed as an artistic parallel to the way many cultures view time as an overall cyclical phenomenon, where many micro and macro patterns revolve together and patterns ultimately align and repeat, rather than conceiving of time in the same linear beginning-to-end way that shows up a lot in much """western""" philosophy and theology.
@@ItsAsparageesewow that last paragraph makes complete sense and I’ve never thought of it like that. The older I’ve gotten, the more I’ve been attracted to polyrhythmic cycles. Great point I appreciate the comment!
Thank u for your very kind words, and l am sorry for not seeing this before now. You are on track, for seeing this as sort of a "milti-layered" groove concept. The "polyphonic" will usually apply to individuals who can sing 2 part harmonies (youtube polyphonic sing or voicing). The closer term for this would be "polyrhythmic" or an over-the-bar groove, possibly "poly-metric".
I feel like each limb of your body has a seperate brain, the cordination you must have to play this must be out of this world. Congratulations dude, u good :)
I love the over-the-barline stuff, the "obtuse & sharp angles" of an odd-time groove seem to smooth down and become more palatable to the ear. Great flow and nice kit too!
@@nunnayuhbitness6708 7/8 - 9/8 by Mogollar (in the album Düm-Tek) is a great example. And Hababam Sınıfı (the theme song from the movie Hababam Sınıfı) is a great example of 5/4 in Turkish music. i suggest you also check out Kapalı Çarşı by Moğollar which is in 9/8.
I love the Turkish 9/8... I've heard it called "the drunken 4" because it has not 3 but 4 strong beats - 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and a, the final beat has a "lurching" quality.
Nice viby groove... But! and I apologise for being an annoying metrophiliac here: I'd argue that the kick is the pulse, and so this is a quarter note groove with the hands playing a 5/8 triplet pattern that moves and displaces over the quarter note in the kick. I know you didn't count it like that, but since everyone in the room will perceive the kick as the pulse, counting it in 3/4 ( or 9/8 if you want the triplet to be the meter) makes more practical sense to me. Still, very cool groove and very well played!
Hi, Does it take 3 whole bars for the bass drum to fall back on beat 1 or am I way off and looking at this wrong? Thanks. Great playing and excellent lesson.
Hello, Chris, my name is Matt, and I am the one who played this video. Your words are correct -- three measures of 5/8 are necessary for the bass to "wrap around" and "land on one". As I stated in an earlier comment on this thread, an added bonus is to look up the video "5 ways drumless play along" -- I am the one playing that video also.
I think of it as 4 on the floor bass drum underneath the 5/8. he starts the right hand with (left hand ghost) RLRRL, and the bass just cycles over it like a slow tripplet.
Awesome groove and I can tell you're an excellent percussionist. You have the charisma and all! Succinct explanation and impressive mental separation of limbs. I will definitely apply this groove theory to my own playing!
Some of you were looking for transcriptions of this Rhythm, and now you can find it here from this person who made a video based upon my video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j7h-KpN2aPY.html
Great stuff. For anyone trying to learn this, the key is to learn each part one at a time, with a metronome, with let's say 30 seconds for each part. Once you've got that down, start combining the different parts like he does in the video. One trick I've done is to make a table with each column representing either a stick or a foot, and the rows with the smallest subdivision of notes - in this case if I counted right it would 10/16 since ten 16th notes fit into a 5/8 groove. So you've got a 4x10 table. In each cell you mark if that stick/foot hits on that beat with an X, and that helps you line up when to hit as well as if one or more limbs hit together. Now because this is a polymeter the tricky thing is that it takes more than one revolution for everything to sync up like it did at the start, so that means you'll have to reiterate the table multiple times to get the full groove. Think of it like planets orbiting the sun, where some of them will complete their revolution faster than others, but on a long enough timeline you'll get a "total solar eclipse". Hope that helps!
That's just a 3:5 polyrhythm. Also, I always count your kick part as dotted-8th notes, but I suppose "3/16" also works, just never talk about it that way with my friends. If you guys really love this 3:5 ratio, a band named Vulkan (Swedish progressive rock, 5 or 6 members, big sound and atmosphere) has three very strong albums, with many songs featuring either a base-3 with a 5 overlaid, or a base-5 beat with a 3 overlaid. Very snazzy tunes.
@@The1aMattHello, appreciate the reply. Yeah, dotted 8th's played over a quarter note pulse u get 2:3 poly. That's happening between hi-hat/kick. As for subdivision-U got me.
I do somewhat of a fun post, but not really....love your lesson!!!...though what we learn so hard, others learn it with mothers milk. We come from english colonialization..though that rythm is prussniac 1234..ok i do fun.. the prussnians are not that evil as most people think they were...but anyway our culture is on beat, not even back beat...and now we are interestested to learn, how to play all over the place, but in a controlled way...that is what other cultures have in their blood. And we have to slice it down, though they dont have to...that is soo fkng cool but for us against our predestined nature...music.is soo cool...why? Because you have to communicate on rythm and frequencies....you dont have that in languages!
this is a similar groove i did in one of my metal songs for 5/8. Big Blue Whale. nice beat, i'm no drummer so always cool to see people do well at odd meters
mannn i'm a sucker for the rhythm that's going on with the bass drum and it just pulls everything together so smoothly this was so fun to watch come together
As a tap dance instructor I would pay you to give me lessons on rhythm and music theory like in this video so I can understand it better and apply it to my tap dancing! You are incredible at breaking it down and explaining it! So cool!
Odd time signatures are like being at a party and having multiple conversations going with completely different people with varying interests and education.
I am the one who played this groove. Please remember that the snare is on 5. If you remember that, you will be freed up from thinking in 4/4. Thanks for viewing and writing.
This CAN be counted in 4/4...it will just take 60 1/4 notes (or 120 1/8ths) to land on "1" (4 beat HH x 3 beat BD x 5 beat hands). The math gets squirrly when can be counted in 1/16ths, or 1/8s, or 1/4's.
Awesome groove man. I have a suggestion. Listen to the song "no place left to go" by Charlie Daniels band. Yes I said CDB...lol. this was way before the devil went down to Georgia BS.
I couldn't hold a beat with a stick and a hollow log. How can any mere mortal hold 4 different time signatures with all four limbs at the same time. Only one answer.... This man is not a mortal being. That's the only possible explanation.
I was wondering if you’re grouping the triplet first or last? 5/8 usually subdivides to be a triplet and 2 eight notes (or two eighth notes and a triplet), and I was trying to figure out how you’re doing that.
Wow, this would’ve been cool to see 9 years ago.. I just saw it now for 1st time! Really cool groove 🤙 It’s definitely like a 12/8 groove, but having it cycle in 5! Yeah, very cool!
Jesus, how slow do you count??? "The snare will be on five" proceeds to only hit the snare once after a long time playing that ride, damn that's a long 5 count
