AWNP: Unplugged with Khary Payton | Ep. 5 

uplifting your feelings, your experiences, and you.

I will have to do my best to listen so people don't feel like they're not being heard.

I started crying when he said that. That was... powerful.

Almost a cryptid, like Talisen

Heh. Dorian Gray. I get it

Dorian Grey...nice

More proof that the cast of Critical Role is in possession of black magic.

the whole cast and the guest stars are a collection of cryptids, change my mind

best idea, yes please

His charisma stat on his real-life character sheet just says, "CHA - Yes"

YES !!

+ yes please

This, x1000

It really shows his greatness. And he is totally right about it. We all need social correctives and if we act up, the good guys need to step in and put us in our place, make us reflect on our behaviour and give us a chance to be better. At least that: a chance.

He's definitely a better person than I am for that sentiment alone.

Absolutely. This idea that there are a few "bad apples" is an easy explanation that prevents us from looking at the system. It dehumanizes George Floyd and other people of color by viewing them as threats, but it also dehumanized this officer destroying his humanity to the point where he could ignore the plea of a dying man.

The police culture and training process deliberately dehumanizes them. It is not a mistake. They foster a mindset that they are *against* the public, and also that anyone who tries to speak out against the culture of violence and lying is a rat and is peered out. It is a deliberate process. They know exactly what they are doing. They didn't "fail" that officer he is exactly who they are trying to create.

@@chalor182 Well, that is simply not true. :) And honestly to advocate such ideas is not helping anyone. Now, there are plenty of reprehensible episodes with police out there. But Just take a look at Donutoperators channel, there are so many moments of cops being both friendly, civil and taking just straight up SHIT from bystanders or people involved with traffic stops. And on occasion, cops helping out or simply ignoring minor violations, if you are civil with them. But you never see them in the news, or on the social medias. Even cops pleading, and i quote "i do not want to kill you, man". Which i find the most heartwrenching of all. Regardless of race, if your mental state is so deteriorated that you decide to swing a weapon or put policeofficers in a life threatening situation so they are forced to fend for their own lives, that statement makes it pretty clear that it is not a issue of indoctrination. Other than that, i have no interest in commenting on the situation. But saying "cops are trained/indoctrinated to hate civilians" is just.. False. And a dangerous attitude to have.

your not wrong

Not evil puppies!!noooooooooo!!!

There is no such thing as "evil puppies".

I’m starting to believe the Mayan who made the calendar had Dyscalculia and misread 2021 for 2012...

Killer hornets, covid 20 in the fall

Definitely lost some weight, looking good, keep up the running

That he is indeed

More like Khimara Peyton

so is he a druid?

He looks 10 years younger without the beard and bald head and it was an absolute mindfuck when I first watched this.

Same but i hate it cause of health reasons.

Yes. Yeeeeeees. Running is the worst. -_-

Perfectly said, Ranger Luna. Thank you, Khary, for sharing your truth with us and thanks Sam and Liam for providing the time and platform.

The black conservative voice is a part of the conversation, sure. But uh, if 20 people get stung by a mutant wasp, and 19 say it was the worst pain they ever felt and 1 said it was a super amazing high, would you assume the 19 were lying or would you assume the 1 had an anomalous experience. Black conservatives experiences are valid insofar as they are black people with world views and experiences, and sometimes they do have meaningful things to contribute to the conversation, but they have an anomalous world view. They are a tiny percentage on the Black experience.

More education and training is needed for sure within their structure, both for civilian v cop and cop v cop

@Kustard Kippers You touched on some good points there, I didn't even consider stress evaluations. That would be getting to the roots of underlying ssues before they escalated in a tense moment.

This is why in most first world countries police training is longer than just a few weeks. It *is* an incredibly stressful, demanding and difficult job. But that's not an excuse to get a lot of things wrong. Imagine if ATC or paramedics took that approach: "Well, my training was only X weeks, so how do you expect me to always remember all those meds?" No, you train people to *properly* do the job you ask them to do...

I mean the problem is that Derek Chauvin, who murdered George Flloyd, had actually already killed someone while on duty. In 2006 he shot and killed Wayne Reyes. In 2008, he shot Ira Lotrell Toles in the chest at point blank. He shot Leroy Martinez in 2011. And in each of those cases there were at least 4 other officers standing there. Disciplining these officers might help, but it hasn't in the past. Officers are legally protected from prosecution, and usually they will protect their own, no matter how illegal that might be. Bob Kroll, the president of the Minneapolis Police Union, is pretty openly racist, and has always defended killer cops in his city. So the problem doesn't really reside in persuading cops to just be better, but in removing from power and radically changing the police.

@Kustard Kippers Why do police need hundreds of millions of dollars? What are they spending it on that is benefiting the community? How come schools, libraries, and hospitals get threadbare budgets, forcing the people who work there to buy their own supplies out of pocket, but every year police get increasing and increasing budgets? They buy tanks, assault weapons, and tear gas, why do we need those on our streets? Wouldn't that money better be spent on things like after school programs or a community free clinic? I think you have a misguided impression of what the police do. The police officer who murdered Rayshard Brooks had just completed deescalation and stress management classes but still killed someone. So it seems like we aren't approaching our society's problems in a good way, and we need to rethink. Police have killed over 1000 people in 2019 alone. Six months, over one thousand human beings that died in interactions with police. Obviously this isn't working. We need to do something different. Something new.

Yes!!! He is actually my favourite 😂 he should be a regular character on the show!

Yup!! 100%

*echo whispers* Shakaste

@@C_Bat now think not just Shakaste, but a One Shot including all the guest stars of Critical Role, with Liam or Sam DMing and Matt playing as Kiri.

A mini campaign stating guest characters.

Hopefully people are aware that things are moving so far nowadays that they actively look for the date, but know... couldn't hurt.

Definitely.

True, like 17/7/ 2020 pre calamity - 23/7/2020 Satan returning to do his taxes

To be fair, there is a date stamp on the video, Jun 18, 2020.

@@jamescanjuggle found the EU guy.

Bless you and yours. "Don't forget to love each other" is what we ALL need to live by. Best wishes.

Yes I was impressed by this because usually they are much more chatty, you could tell they were being respectful and really listening. That's exactly what should happen right now.

Not only listening, but asking pertinent questions that showed they were trying to understand. Very wholesome.

Nick Smith Nobody's saying everyone has to automatically agree with other people, we're simply admiring the respect these guys are showing by listening.

It’s definitely important for empathetic white people to deconstruct and cope with the pain they are experiencing in a way that doesn’t monopolize the conversation and allows us to regain stamina for the fight ahead.

Shakaste, baby!

@@wkehrman lol my fave is "that's not just 'some bird' baby"

REVERAND, YOU SURE? I GOT THREE OF THEM IN HERE! 😂😂😂

I appreciate the concept of BLM, as police brutality is an issue that needs to be addressed, but I am concerned at the amount of antisemitism that seems to be festering within the movement. I think we should be addressing the problems presented, but not necessarily supporting the movement without question.

Zansi as a proud Jewish woman, black lives matter. there is very concerning antisemitism, but conditional allyship does nothing to fix it. There has been a lot of mutual aid between our communities within the US, and also a lot of conflict, but the true enemy is white supremacy and inequality. Call out antisemitism when you see it, call out racism when you see it, and just focus on improving your community around you, because waiting for the perfect, unproblematic coalition just lets the real problem grow

Dont understate your own suffering! I now that wasent the point of your comment but you shouldent have to deal with that either 💝

@@finsteramma5345 This is actually a problem that seems to happen a lot, but it is getting better is as time goes on. The problem of comparing one's suffering to what others are going through. I compare myself a lot, whether its something that troubles me, or something that I want to do and I compare myself to those who're so much better at it than me. The whole comparison thing can only be minimized in my opinion. Just like other problems, you can only really minimize it. We have communities like this where people can have problems and that's ok. No judgement, no comparison. Nothing.

@@copycrow4486 it's all about intersectionality. We need to acknowledge that several factors are cause for suffering and trauma, and that they can overlap, or affect you in isolation and that neither of these factors is more difficult to deal with than any other. We all need to learn that one type of suffering is not more or less significant and impacting than others, but we also need to learn to focus on individual factors that cause harm without implying that other factors are less or more important.

Just like his reference to "That's Not My Name" by the Ting Tings during the game. It's not like the things he references are crazy obscure.

It was such a good reference too lolol

@@fenzelian I'm pretty sure Scanlan used "that's not my name" in at least one Inspiration

You are totally right, it was a two deer in the headlights when he made that reference. Great reference though.

"Hoping they weren't relying too much on Khary to educate them" Just casually throwing out accusations... nice.

@Nick Smith Any time you listen to another person's perspective it is an education, whether or not you agree with everything they have to say. Giving someone space to speak their mind and validating their point of view is important, and it does not imply anything about your own point of view.

And he's nearly 50. I wanna know what he's been sacrificing, and to whom, because he's gotta be stealing some youth and vitality from somewhere.

Hes 50???? No effing way

I wanted to like this comment but it’s currently at 69 and...gotta let it ride

strong, strong second on the sentiment in this comment

Don't forget Reani! And hosted by Dagon or Hawkeye (Brittany's cat)

Can confirm, he is

Oh my god, yes!

My wife has watched some c1 eps over my shoulder. She couldn't hide her thoughts on how attractive Travis is. NO WAY I'm letting her see Khary.

@@skoltrollkallamik4450 awh, come on man! She married you, that's gotta be better than some pretty man on a stream! Let her enjoy looking at handsome men, it'll remind her she's got the best one. :)

@@probablythedm1669 Well if you put it THAT way... ;-)

I hear you Captain B. Glad you’re one of us (by that I mean a Critter).

Matt: Make a persuasion check with disadvantage cos realism Khary my charisma modifier is +12 Sam: mine is -1!!

The sad thing is they are actual saving throws...

@@jjmeyer74 Shit, u rite :(

@@jjmeyer74 godamn that hurt

@@jjmeyer74 The realism! It's too real! Make the bad DM go away.

2020 in a nutshell

@@mudkipjuice Just wait, 2020's got more gasoline in the back.

@@copycrow4486 bro im from the future and yes

@@princessjello I hate that I was right.

What does presumed privilege have to do with sharing their opinion on keeping politics in or out of the show?

@James Trotman Politics have been a huge part of this show from its inception, particularly in C2. Asking to ‘keep politics out of it’ is missing the point.

To emits not politics. It's rather you if your a empathetic person or not (and likely racist).

@@anonymouspotato3453 I can understand that, it be unrealistic to keep something as human as politics in or out. I just don't see how a presumption of privilege has to do with sharing valid opinions. Like what do you think

I am normally one of the people who prefers to keep modern day real life issues out of my fiction, for mental health reasons. However, this episode was extremely well done and goes over the issues and talks about them without increasing my anxiety. So hat's off to Sam, Liam, and most of all Khary. In an a time when so many media outlets are trying to increase fear and anxiety for clicks and ad revenue, this is a breath of fresh air.

that last one is the scariest

I don't mean to alarm you, but China has named it's State sponsored facial-recognition surveillance system... "SKYNET". Not even kidding. That's what they actually named it.

@@wickedpissa25 lol the creator called described it as "Skynet, but good" This is so going to go wrong

@@KalilIllinois that's what the guy in terminator said when he made skynet, guess we need to find Sarah now

Apparently someone read the myan calander wrong and it's meant to be 2020 the world ends... Normally, I would have scoffed at this, however... I think they might be on to something! The main important thing though is BLACK LIVES MATTER! Not just saying it, meaning it!

i remember reading somewhere that police are trained to see people as threats, and they have to react preemptively before anything happens -- before the threat starts to manifest. you were "a scummy hippy" as you said, and they saw that as a threat. that itself is a problem. they shouldn't be trained like that. they should be trained to see everyone as someone to protect. police are warriors, when they should be guardians.

@Nick Smith Law enforcement is a service, should ideally be done for the good of the people and society. Their lives, as soon as they step into that uniform, are no longer selfishly theirs. "Serve and Protect", you know? Being taught to act on impulse and draw guns on civilians who could possibly be innocent (such as the original commenter, whose point you so horribly missed in your reply) is not an embodiment of the police's promise to _serve and protect._ People *can* be threats, I agree with you there. But the problem comes when you start believing _everyone_ is a threat, and you are part of system that allows you to commit murder with impunity.

There are a lot of suggestions and solutions being proposed right now and what's so great about how things are set up is these changes will get to be made on a city by city and county by county case. I firmly believe there is not one solution that will fit all. Every county has different needs and defunding may work for one county over there, but reformed training and education for officers may be the solution in this city over here. Whatever happens, we do need change. Whatever that ends up looking like.

Side note: I love Khary Payton so much. Such a cool and straight forward dude with an amazing ability to communicate his perspective.

You’re brave for putting this out here, and I agree with what you’re saying

I believe an increase in training and education for both civilian interactions and police to police interactions will help with dealing with this unspoken rule. After all, despite good intentions humans need to feel safe and secure to unveil how they feel or to act against what could be a dangerous situation

I just read an article that one other problem is the power of police unions. I'm always a little weary when someone critisizes unions. They are necesarry, more people should be in unions, so as to not be shat upon by their employers. But there seems to be a certain spirit in police unions that facilitates inaction when it comes to removing people from the force who don't belong there.

Quotenwagnerianer oh that’s actually really interesting. I hadn’t thought about the role unions play in this. If you could link the article I’d love to read it!

Police in other countries are also racist, also do racial profiling, etc. Racism runs deep in many if not all societies, maybe just amplified to a higher extreme in the USA. And when the system, the education and training for police is based on identifying threads by racial profiling and see black people and people of color as less-than, it doesn't matter if this training lasts 6 weeks or 6 years. The "quality" remains the same. The whole system needs to be torn down and re-build.

I agree, sitting down and listening to one another, not jumping at what they say first hand, and being open to conversation.

So true, he looks a different man! Great look on him.

I think this is actually just him without a haircut considering everything XD

I thought he has older, but to be fair I mostly associate him with a cheesey, scruffy-looking phoney on TWD.

He put to words what I have been trying to explain for well over 15 years... throughout history this can & does apply to so many differences between people. Gender, culture, ideology, religion.... I could continue to list all the ways that throughout the history of the world this applies to (and reference examples) but I'd probably hit the character limit. I've seen & heard & tried to explain why regardless of the MANY things that NEED to be addressed & improved & changed... I still love this place I was born & believe in hope for a better future. The truth of his words & phrasing is so perfect. "...the people that come before me have worked too hard & too long..." Humanity is & has from the start struggled. We struggle to advance, grow, learn... life & nature in general from the very start is a struggle. I didn't ask to be born when, where, or what I am, but I do have the ability (& the right) to choose things in & for my life now. Change, advancements, improvements, growth don't happen if no one tries... and if we all stop trying, at best nothing gets better & at worst... regression. Also, on a personal level I think back to those who struggled & fought & died for equality & hope of "better"... I would rather try, & be grateful for those who were (& are) brave enough to keep holding on to that dream and belief of a better future where all are seen & treated as equals. I was heavily influenced by certain shows & authors growing up. As an adult I am still drawn towards entertainment & that which strengthens my hope & desire to keep struggling for that better future for all. To focus on how to move forward in a positive direction & not just keep repeating the injustices of the past. 🖖 He eloquently expressed what I have wanted to reply to those who have made such comments to me & to those around me. I'm grateful that such issues are addressed & opinions and thoughts are shared in entertainment. Leading by example is something I hope continues to be a presence of positive influence on the world.... because we've seen & got more than enough negative examples through history & present day. 😓 Don't forget to love each other❣️

It was a thing that Travis made a joke of and Matt decided to make it a real thing in the game. I highly doubt Matt would immediately kill his entire party, especially after this huge break.

Lol 😂 oh no

@@Strykerclass242 if they die they die but fingers crossed

This episode is only a week off, maybe two at the most.

Still get what you mean though lol.

@@IcepersonYT Yeah, I made the comment about two minutes before they mentioned scrapping the episode they already shot and doing a new one. 😅

it shouldn’t be the job of black people to de-escalate the situation. There shouldn’t be a situation to de-escalate, and it’s sickening that when a white person is pulled over they’re thinking ‘oh, man, I hope I don’t get a fine’ whereas a black person thinks ‘I hope I don’t get murdered’. PoC shouldn’t have to talk the police out of killing them with little to no provocation when they’re just trying to live their lives. But this is the reality. We have to have hope that this movement, and these protests, will change that reality. BLM.

Friendly Redneck Neighbor Ok. That’s literally false but i guess you believe in ‘alt facts’, right? There are more white people in the US, but a smaller proportion are killed than the proportion of black people. If you look at useful statistics that could actually be used in any statistical analysis beyond high school, 3x more black people proportionally are killed by police in the US. While only making up around 12% of the US population, black Americans make up over 30% of the prison population and black people are sentenced for disproportionately long amounts of time for the exact same crime, compared to white people. If you understood such complex ideas such as ‘minorities’ and ‘statistics’, you may grasp that. Also, that’s a terrible argument. ‘The police actually murder white people too so we should all be ok with them’? Surely this means you’d be more for defunding and restructuring the police, because you’d be part of a targeted group. Of those white people killed, the majority (over 50%) have mental health issues, and a further fraction are part of another visible minority, and most of and/or the rest are activists (almost always human rights activists and labour activists, statistically). None are killed because being white makes the police think they’re suspicious and less human. It’s not a race issue for white people, because they’re the powerful majority without hundred of years of racist pseudoscience fuelling stereotypy. They are killed because policing is a fundamentally flawed and violent system that does nothing to reduce crime and everything to oppress the vulnerable and keep people living in fear. I doubt you genuinely believe that there’s no racial discrepancy, or maybe you simply think that black people commit more crime and deserve more violence. Anyone who openly calls them self a redneck is likely beyond reasoning with. TL;DR This commenter pulled a fake number out of their ass. Proportionally, black people face more police violence and misuse of the justice system, the numbers just don’t seem to make sense because there are fewer black Americans than white. It’s also not ok to murder white people, but they’re not murdered for being white. In 2019, more than 1,000 people were murdered by police.