Axial SCX10 III RTR Overview - Pros and Cons of the $500 Ready to Run

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We don't have the RTR yet and everything stated here is just our opinion, just like all content on RC Review but we go through the setup and component selection of the $500 Ready to Run Axial SCX10.3. 3-channel only and integrated receiver/esc a problem or no big deal?
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@mickd8188 4 года назад

I get the points you are making but on the flip side an RTR vehicle usually doesn't have the features of the kit version, so I can see the compromise on how many channels it's has out the box. The firma40 is way more programmable than any rtr esc normally would be,.. pretty much every feature a 1080 has except for the bec... so most folks won't need to upgrade. An external bec is an easy install or direct power servo when upgrade time comes round. I feel your complaints of these vehicle make it seem like a bad purchase but the sheer scale looks and excellent body, dig transmission, beadlocks, inner fenders etc make it just a great different choice in the marketplace. Cheers mate 👍

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

RTRs are usually good starting points or building blocks. This one seems to have roadblocks to future upgrades and is just meant to be unchanged in terms of motor and electronics. The firma40 looks like it has potential for configuration but not sure if it comes with the program card needed to configure it.

@billderas3420 4 года назад

Wow! Major blunders by Axial. Glad I previously got the kit version...with all the electronics options still being available to me. Good job FC!

@runnerbaba 4 года назад

Thanks for your videos!

@JDMJDK 4 года назад

I’m building the kit right now with FS GT3c, Mamba X, Holmes Devolver, and either a Protek or Savox servo. After seeing reviews, yours included the 2sp isn’t even worth it. I just want the dig functional. ❤️Great content as always! Keep up the unbiased reviews. 🏁💯

@fernsolo 4 года назад

Great review as always 👍

@philfernandez6306 4 года назад

I just started crawling and love it. I race 1/10 amd 1/8 buggies for years and still racing. Best part in this hobby is assembling the kit. You learn how everything works. With an RTR you don't have any idea how to fix it if it craps out on you.....you end up going to your local hobbyshop and spend money for repairs..... that's not fun..... unless you like spending money. LOL

@mikefly562 4 года назад

I just bought the scx10 III RTR yesterday, as the local hobby shop had it for $450 (instead of $499), and so far, its been running well. I also bought a smart charger and 2S 5000 battery as well, since I was already in the market to buy the charger and battery for my other RC products. As for the ESC/Receiver combo, it seems to work well, and I already have a dynamite ESC programmer at home, so I can customize the ESC as needed, but so far out of the box, its programmed well. I'm currently on vacation and wanted something to play around with while on my trip and don't have the ability to build and paint where I'm staying at. I like that it comes in Sting Gray, which matches my real full scale Jeep Wrangler JLU. I like that the LED lights come with the RTR as for the 3 channel radio..its seems really basic, but I'll most likely upgrade to a 5 channel in the near future,, but for something that I can pack in my (real) jeep and take with me on road trips, this RTR is fun to mess around with.

@OhMySack 4 года назад

Exactly, at this point just getting started, I'm not the least bit interested in spending 2 days building a kit, researching and figuring out all the motor, servo, & electronics compatibility needs and requirements. I'd have no issue with the complexity of a build, I just want to pull it out of the box, throw my battery in it, and go crawl it. The other shit will come in time if I get the bug. I've got plenty of airplanes to "wrench" on to keep flying, as well. This is grins & giggles with a pretty damned nice and outfitted truck. There's a lot of value in that for many of us, I'm sure. Mine will be here in 2 days.

@anthonyb.7360 4 года назад

Thanks for the info, you helped me make my decision and ill be purchasing the TRX4 Blazer instead.

@harrysrcchannel5651 4 года назад

I understand your opinion on the rtr car but like you said, you'll need a better transmitter, at least a 4 channel for using all the whistles and bells. If you want to go brushless and want to upgrade the transmitter you're better of buying the kit version. If you don't like building it yourself you can ask a friend or pay someone to do it for you. At the end it will be cheaper than the rtr version and you have all whistles and bells 🤷‍♂️ great vids so far, I like what I see and it's a huge help for buying or not buying the right upgrades for my trx4. I'm more a track racer but I actually like crawling with my daughter. Crawling is just more fun factor, at the track there is a sort of competition factor which is fun to of course. Keep up the good work 👍

@ConditionZero76 4 года назад

wouldn't waste my time or money on the rtr version ... another Fantastic honest video as we've all come to love & expect. Thanks Francis 👍🏼

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

For sure. Because we laid out the facts honestly, we got no commission from our links on this RTR. And that's ok. It works out for some folks but we do not want anyone to buy this and make a mistake. That's more important to us.

@ConditionZero76 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel & thats why your my Favorite & always my go to RC channel period!! we get Unbiased Honest Truth with no BS, unlike half the other sponsored channels!!

@KTMcaptain 4 года назад

Right on Axial's recommendations for the kit... first item... "4-channel transmitter & receiver (recommended)"

@kevinscott2780 4 года назад

Your Mod bodies are Awesome 😎

@ReflectivewindowcleaningCa 4 года назад

Another smash hit video. 👍🏻 So this week I went to my local hobby shop, to consider buying this. I’m very handy with stuff and now I thought it’s best i get the kit and spend some me time and assemble it. But now reading other comments .... 🤔 scx10-2 kit?

@marcochavanne4749 3 года назад

After owning a few Axial 28 scalers, two Redcat Gen 8s, a TRX4 Bronco, and TRX6 I think the best use of $500 is a TRX4 Sport with a nice Holmes Hobbies motor, Flysky GT3, HW 1080 ESC, some Amazon wheels, Amazon Hyrax knockoffs, Pro Comp Dual Stage foam and beer if there is any money left over. You can always buy the 2 speed gear sets if you want to go fast with the sport. IMO it's the best bang for the buck and what I reccomend to friends.

@ruftime 4 года назад

I have had a love hate relationship with Horizon Hobby/Spektrum for 30 years....luckily new/better options have emerged....especially in radios😎

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Agreed.

@OhMySack 4 года назад

So....I BOUGHT it! First vehicle since my Team Associated RC10 back in the 80's! Heavy into aircraft now, all with Spektrum. The 1 channel short is typical of some HH aircraft, also. Enough to fly but you need a new Tx and servo to work flaps. A shrewd corporate maneuver to sell more gear once the bug has bitten! It was a good start as a beginner but I bought an expensive Tx afterwards and I'm DONE for a few years because I knew I'd buy more planes. That was a given. I bought this Jeep without worry after hearing the 2 speed was really not a necessary function on a crawler but DIG is a benefit. I think I'll be completely satisfied with 3 channel for now and if the bug strikes, I'll go buy a real good Tx and run with that. Interesting thoughts on the Firma combo ESC/Rx. I run a few of the Avian ESC's (air version of Firma similar to Hobbyking but tweeked) in aircraft and they are ALL programmable for voltage, etc. So is it confirmed that this one is not? Must be proprietary just for this rig. Spektrum SMART is a cool technology so I'll embrace it for now.

@farmboy2462 4 года назад

As always great review, so glad I have the gen 8 axe, way more bang for your buck, and I love mine. Just picked up my first and last axial rc saturday, the bomber 2.0, wishing now that I'd stuck with redcat and got there new rock racer, because the bomber is a joke as a rock racer at 2mph top speed. Axial needs to step down as redcats setting the bar now on what you should get,for your $500.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Appreciate it. Axe has some good components!!

@Wingman-ls4bs 4 года назад

Thx Francis

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

The RTR will work for a lot of people but not all. So it's worthwhile to let folks know what they're getting.

@toolstechandtoys5910 4 года назад

I’m waiting a a few parts to finish my scx10 iii build but I can’t dont the exact size/gauge wire the come pre attached to the quick run 10 I’ve ordered multiple ones but there is always a size difference can you help as well as I want them yellow and blue to match the esc to motor thanks

@Youtuber-uz5hc 4 года назад

Was wondering if it was dumb to buy an scx10 II after the 3 just came out. So glad that I did. I love it.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

We compared the crawling performance of the II to the III and you're not wrong. The III has a lot of nifty features but they don't seem to all work together smoothly.

@juanlechuga9200 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel It would be great if you could test installing the SCX10 III axles in an SCX10 II platform, see how it works, what mods are needed Maybe getting an SCX10 II transmission and optional battery tray (with horizontal battery and servo in a forward position), into the SCX10 III chassis. SCX10 III should have a dedicated crawler version like the Sport in the TRX4

@brianmoreno3 4 года назад

Made the better decision.

@ConditionZero76 4 года назад

@@juanlechuga9200 Thats what the kit versions for!! leave her stripped & run her hard, theirs your trx-4 comparison

@juanlechuga9200 4 года назад

@@ConditionZero76 I'd love to make the comparison myself but I don't have all kits available, like RC Review does Modifying kits is part of the hobby (a fun part), but I would need very strong reasons to purchase the SCX10 III kit, pay for all the bells an wisels and then remove them. Specially when the Enduro and TRX4 kits are available. Please note I like Axial products and the aesthetics of this car, but performance-wise I'm not sure which user case is this care is intended for

@Juacocb7 4 года назад

Nice info man. U definitely one of the best the in crawling realm. But in my opinion i would go with the TRX4 Mercedez G Wagon(the 4x4) for 399.95 for a full featured trx4 and just put a new body on it.

@ShiazVivek 4 года назад

there might be tons of RC reviews with better video production quality, as far as the content quality and information you are the best SIR!!!

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Quality content that you can trust is what we focus on.

@codedelta 4 года назад

I see the scx10 2 are being discontinued , how much parts compatibility is there between the 2 & 3 ? I can see some good deals on a 2 , as long as the arts support will be there

@grandmaster-grouch 4 года назад

ty kuya im in the middle of a FPV drone build a drift kit and was a jumping in to crawl.. lol broke the arrma and xmaxx last few days.. so i have down time. parang must easy kung RTR na lang muna. shiet basic basic rtr maybe.. looks like a build kit maybe a better way than the rtr... 10 hours ba talaga? custom drone takes about 10 hrs from start too.. at the rc shop i seen a scx with 2 motors but not connected through a drive shaft 2ws each motor has its own servo is that hard to build? scx frame i think but not sure.. any advice? planning on ordering this build soon which will take 3 weeks to come in the meantime repair repair repair

@MrAlawey81 2 года назад

i have axial gladaitor can i run with 3 cell ??

@crimsonspan9750 4 года назад

They made a mistake with the 2 in 1 ESC and receiver. Redcat Gen 8 AXE is still my pick for the money. Great review keep it up!

@KTMcaptain 4 года назад

Oh yeah.... a good brushless system is $200+, radio $80, servo is $100, and all for the price of trax ass and ass ial brushed crawlers that have horrible servos and not good radios. Plus it has an awesome body.

@HardysHQ 4 года назад

Do all your trucks on the shelf have flat spots on the tires or what? I keep mine on jack stands or upside down. 🤷‍♂️

@jlp-mtb1391 4 года назад

I have the kit version and added my own electronics. Really glad I didn’t wait for the RTR. That ESC/Receiver combo was a terrible idea. I have a few TRX4’s and I think it’s much better than the SCX10 III. I picked it up because I liked the Jeep body look. Great video RC Review! Thank you! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Thanks for the input. Agree with you.

@hondofourfivetwo9347 4 года назад

😁 I’ve spent more than 10hrs on just painting & detailing a body in contrast my go fast race stuff the bodies get painted with about as much care as a taxi at Macco 😂 I’ve never been a fan of all in 1 type electronics I like having everything modular that way you can upgrade individual pieces or replace just a single damaged component instead of throw it all out. I get what Spectrum is trying to do it’s the same with Traxxas, their battery system TQi radio system and chargers but at least the RX isn’t built into the ESC. BTW a 2ch spectrum RX is only about $30 in the grand scheme of things if you were keeping the RTR radio it’s not that bad. Personally I usually never buy RTR’s, but when I do the first thing to go is all the RTR electronics anyway.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Crazy how a 2-in-1 electronics is suddenly acceptable in a $500 rc car.

@RocknCrawlers 4 года назад

Why does SPEKTRUM not manufacture 4ch Transmitter. 3.5.6ch lineup only...

@racerj2.03 4 года назад

Lights and plastic body parts are nice. However I have had a feeling that hobby class RC vehicles have been becoming more toy like for a year now. I am now more convinced of it than ever. Even before I felt this way with all the corporate intrigue of the past several years, bankruptcies, consolidation issues, buyouts, etc. began to cause me concern. Vehicle costs are through the roof! For that ever increasing cost we are getting less rather than more for our money. This RTR has definitely crossed the line into toyland! The very cheap electronics of this RTR is the harbinger of doom for our hobby. I fear that the Red cat Gen.8 Axe edition will be the last time we see a manufacturer endeavor to provide us quality and affordability in one package. Given the choice between a Gen.8 Axe or this toy, I will take the Gen 8 Axe every time! Just Saying.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

This really seems to be the case. The parent company forces the product designers to hit a bunch of feature checkboxes like 2-speed, portals, molded engine. The team doesn't believe in them so they deliver a 2-speed transmission with no range and engine detail with a hood that does not open. A body rollcage that is not visible either. And then they are forced to use IC3, company servos, integrated receiver/esc since they save cost and help the other brand. Meanwhile the vehicle suffers and the iconic brand as well.

@juanlechuga9200 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel I think your analysis is absolutely right This is for sure not the result of combining an SCX10 II and an Ascender

@Malachi_Marx 4 года назад

Yeahhh Bullshit.

@Jbzy3000 2 года назад

im late and just bought a gen 8 v2 and gen 7 Redcat just because. I just don't get how axial has dropped the ball. I may but the raw builder kit, because axial is still king for buying parts at local hobby shop. maybe I need to just go buy a trx4 and give up on axial.

@crawling86 2 года назад

I got the kit for the scx111 I'm liking the scx11 better.

@openyoureyes1776 4 года назад

I have and love my TRX-4 Bronco and love doing kits also and was waiting for this RTR and when I heard about the 2 in 1 esc and dig or 2 speed choice I immediately got the TRX-4 yellow edition Land Rover and love it...for $469 you get locking diffs,2 speed and super detailed body and I started this hobby almost 20 years ago with a belt driven RS-4 and a nitro rustler and still have them both.....traxxas has been great for me and my 8 car fleet!!! Big let down from axial. Great reviews bud, love the channel

@dennisbuckley9569 4 года назад

Love your videos. Very informative and fair. Too bad Axial missed the mark on the SCX10 rtr. Traxxas needs strong competition so they don’t rest on their laurels. Based on your reviews I bought a full function TRX4 kit that I equipped with a sport body. My son has the Bronco version.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Appreciate the compliment. Love that we didn't steer you wrong. I cry when reviewers mention zero weaknesses of a product. Or they mention one and make excuses for it right away. Why review????

@1114mat 4 года назад

Do the shocks leak oil 🤔🤔

@petersboukis67 4 года назад

I heard the esc receiver is programable ? Idk how much but they made it sound like it does what you need ? And the guys at axial said the 2 speed ratio was too close anyways most people just want to crawl with one speed and use the dig ? So idk the trx sport is one speed etc ?

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Good points. The ESC is programmable but one needs to buy a program card to do it. It is ok but is missing a few programming features like BEC voltage. Yes, not the 2-speed transmission is not useful to all people because the ratio is too close 2nd gear is only 40% faster than first. That should be fixed IMHO. The transmission gears are in there too adding weight to the vehicle even though it is not used.

@ReflectivewindowcleaningCa 4 года назад

Hey Francis, is it ever possible you doing a video that basically tells all of what to put in a kit.Best practical components Of all brand kits. Doing brushed, brushless. Top 15-20 must haves Even weights and brands. Hope this makes sense. Maybe you do have one and I’m not seeing it!

@FalconWing1813 4 года назад

I think it would have been better to leave the Dig and 2 speed as an upgrade option. Also the receiver and speed controller should be the cheaper separate versions. Leave the second servo off as well for future upgrades. This could have reduced cost. For me buying a RTR is the price tag. That is the deciding factor and trying to convince my wife i need 500+ dollars for this will be a tuff sell. Should be priced to compete with the TRX 4 Sport. I dont mind doing upgrades later as more money comes available. And its kinda fun upgrading at least for me. The Jeep body looks super cool and is the main reason i would want this. But I think traxxas has done better at making a entry level RTR Model at entry level prices AND a fully loaded RTR for those that want to spend the extra money. I do hope that they will change this RTR and what it comes with to reduce the price. Again it does look great!

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Exactly!!!! And sell it at $399 so it can be way more competitive. DIG is really not that useful unless it can be used under full load. 2-speed needs a big range jump to be worth the trouble. And then one really needs unlocking differentials so it won't flip over at full speed.

@Jrod_FPV 4 года назад

Before you knock the firma 40a ESC, I think you should drive it first. It is fully configurable. It's basically a HW 1080 with the only difference being it is fixed at 6 volt output instead of being adjustable up to 7.4 v. I have the firma 40a ESC and love it. I use it with a DX5C radio for all of the smart telemetry goodness. If you already have spectrum radios the Firma 40a is a really logical choice. It's like buying a 1080 and getting a free 4ch smart receiver. If you planned on upgrading this RTR truck to brushless then I agree it's not as ideal to also replace the receiver as well as the ESC, but then again brushless systems are rather expensive so the Rx becomes a pretty small price by comparison... And if you're buying an RTR and upgrading it then you probably have enough money to begin with since you planned on throwing out the stock equipment anyway. You won't be ragging on the ESC when you drive it! 😁

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

We read through all the documentation. Seems it's missing a few key config options. And there's no program card. The buyer has to buy another part?? Anyway, the key issue is it's tied into the receiver and that limits all options.

@Jrod_FPV 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel i have to remind myself, not everyone buying this RTR prefers Spektrum radio. But to be clear, the limitation is only related to buying a new Rx. I didn't catch that it was missing any config options... what is it missing in your opinion? Yeah the Firma program card is $15 on horizon website.... i didn't realize HW1080 came with a program card, that's nice for sure. Now, you'll see i'm a huge nerd that likes to look at the numbers and compare different scenarios... so i laid some different scenarios out to see how much it really costs to have the limitation you mentioned. This RTR + brushless setup: Say you want that brushless power/ control. New motor ($50 ?) , New ESC ( $60 ?) , New Rx ( $30 ?) Comparing the price of a new $30 receiver to the $610 total you're paying for the RTR + upgrade = 30 / ( $50 + $60 + $500 ) = 5% ... So IMO it's not really a limiting factor here... it's 5% more cost because you have to buy a new Rx to complete your upgrade package. This RTR + New Rx: For when you don't use spektrum radio. You will also have to replace the ESC. New Rx ( $30 ?) + New ESC ($40). So 40 / 530 = 7% more cost. I agree, this is significant. No extra cost related to Rx for: Upgrade to new brushed motor. ... upping to a spektrum Tx with more channels. (bummer this comes with only 3ch Tx) Now the awesome part for guys that use spektrum...when you buy this for a new build you get a 4ch Rx AND great ESC for $45. That's basically a free $40 receiver when you buy the Firma ESC. and less wiring to do in your truck. which i found nice. So doing the same calculation we see where the real value is... -40 / 45 = 81% savings for the spektrum user. I'm not saying there's ZERO limitations in this situation... just showing how i think they're relatively small at 5% and 7% and I think this was a great esc to include though, maybe not perfect for all DIY'ers. I bet Axial was thinking that most guys that want to use their own Rx instead of Spektrum will also opt for the KIT. Since those guys likely also want to choose other specific components too.

@Cheshire2898 3 года назад

Are there any mods that can open and lock the differential remotely?

@thor_4017 3 года назад

Are you sure you want it more open? I tried hpi crawler king with open differential. It barely moved off-road, good for flat surface only. 3-4cm snow and it wouldn't move on flat surface. Fwd with locked differential would be more usable off-road. Scx10 III dig can do that. If the differential was sealed with silicone fluid the trx-4 open differential would make more sense. Traxxas didn't put sealed differential in 2wd slash either. Worst flaw you can make on a 2wd off-road kit.

@sprather84 4 года назад

Here is the million dollar question my friend i already have the trx4 sport & trx6 both modified pretty close to your specs and i havent been let down at all 👍🏻SO WHAT SHOULD BE MY NEXT RIG? 🤔

@sprather84 4 года назад

Awesome review my rc brother do you know if Spectrum has a receiver that will bind to that controller if I do change to the HW1080 or do I need to switch out the whole controller

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

If you're only doing 3-channel (no 2-speed tranny) then no need to change the 3-channel controller. But if you want all 4 functions, then you need a new controller like a DX5c

@sprather84 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel to be honest I'm good with the three channels that 2 speed is so close ratio it doesn't really matter to me I just want a good ESC and motor in it without blowing the budget

@gmummy 4 года назад

Bummer! Guess its trx4 time

@ruftime 4 года назад

The Trx4 is awesome. Love my defender.

@mutstumbo 4 года назад

I agree. In the tossup that TRX4 wins. For $50.00 less you get so much more. Plus there is no clicking sound from the transmission.

@russelllashley9600 4 года назад

No doubt the trx4 is an amazing ready to run out of the box I haven't had a single problem with mine and love it

@gmummy 4 года назад

@@russelllashley9600 Thanks for the feedback , gotta say everyone has the same opinion on the trx

@gmummy 4 года назад

@Robert Hall Gotta say its tempting at 370 for the kit.. Dunno if the rtr is worth the price.. Decisions..

@SidZickerman 4 года назад

How about some love the the new mst j45c? Mine has quickly become my favorite rig and I’d love the see the aftermarket pick it up

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Is that new? We try and just focus on new releases.

@TheRoadTaken 9 месяцев назад

I'm sorry you have to buy your cars rather than receiving them for free but as a viewer, i trust your reviews the most. Nowhere else have I heard about the limits to upgrades as you outlined here. No RTR from axial for me but maybe a kit might be. I now need to go find an honest review of their kit.

@areadierc2803 4 года назад

Just checked the firma esc manual, it has all the adjustments of a hw 1080 exept the 7.4 volt bec , so basically it's a 40 Amp 1080.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

It seems to be Hobbywing based. One has to buy the control module though. Also, it's missing a few config options.

@areadierc2803 4 года назад

My friend just bought an firma esc/receiver , he tried the 1080 program card and it worked on it so that's handy to know

@marccyberwiz 4 года назад

So the combo is 4ch and they paired it with 3ch radio ouch. You need to shell out $99 plus $15 for micro servo so $615 for full feature they might need to just make a roller for us who don't like kits. Redcat gave us 6CH flysky for Gen8 Axe for same price and it only needs 2 ch maybe 3ch if you want to control lights. I'm glad to have purchased the kit it only took me 8 hours in 2 days to build way worth it. I tossed AXE system in it with my Flysky GT5.

@RallyandTrail 4 года назад

Great video bro 👍👊😎. Horizon ruined the rtr with the electronics .

@runnerbaba 4 года назад

Could you review the MN99s and mod it?

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

$47 Banggood crawler? We'll have to pass. We've done a few low-cost banggod rcs and i think we're done for a while.

@seanmcpherson7962 4 года назад

3 Crawler show down not 2. Put the $499 Rwdcat Gen8 axe against the axial scx10iii and Trx4 Bronco. (Would love to see the axe with a lighter body and OD gear too but i bet lighter body with lower COG will do wonders.

@Tesseract.1111 3 года назад

Because of the combo ESC & receiver my dig unit fried out multiple times. So I just removed it, that is lame that both are in one unit on a ⅒ scale

@OnTheFlyPA 3 года назад

You have to set the end points on the dig servo, then youre good to go lol

@Johnathandm 4 года назад

I’m thinking of just buying a trx4 Mercedes for 400 And buying a dig adapter that I seen posted online and swap it out And still have money left over to buy other pieces to get it to all work togeather

@stpbasss3773 3 года назад

Yup I am thinking of getting the bronco trx4 over this overpriced scx10III

@3ternalvigilance262 4 года назад

The electronics issues just killed it for me. I'll stick with my SCX10 II's.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Crazy huh. We all want a builder's kit now.

@3ternalvigilance262 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel yeah, for sure. I really dont see any point buying this in RTR.

@Bushwackerinpa 4 года назад

like I said in the facebook page. This is the worst value RTR on the market IMO. The kits is decent though and the much better value. Kit $370 HH Trailmaster sport $20 HW1080 $42 Power HD 35kg $30 Radiolink Rx(most of us already have TX) $15 dollars TR-4 micro servo $20 @ 507 right there with much nicer parts 527 with both servos....still more expensive than a TRX-4 because you can sell the traxxas electronics off new before you replace everything.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Great breakdown. We don't like that they dumbed down the RTR buyer. RTR is the majority and the seed that fuels the hobby with future enthusiasts and addicts.

@RyanRKJ 4 года назад

I don’t personally have a big problem with this being a 3 channel, and having to choose between 2 speed or dig in order to keep the cost lower. Honestly, I’d probably be happiest with this JL body on a 10.2. No dig. No 2 speed. No portals. Simpler. Cheaper.

@thomasgross8289 4 года назад

The jeep will probably do better in the rocks because of the bumpers on the Broncos but that's it. No I wont be buying the scx10 III because it's going to be such a pain and expense when it comes to the upgrades. I can't believe they would limit suck a good platform in this way what a disappointment. It's like they took off at such a great start then halfway through just through whatever cheap parts they could into it.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Agreed.

@stpbasss3773 3 года назад

That's horizon hobby for ya lol, I knew once they bought axial that axial would start getting worse parts and electronics.

@CrawlerRuth 4 года назад

I wish manufacturers would come out with Bind and Drive models. So tired of the crap radio systems that come with the RTRs. So now I do kits.

@aa240sx 4 года назад

Hopefully Axial will release this as a bare chassis roller only kit, no body, wheels, radio, esc, motor, like Redcat's PACK GEN8. This way, we add our own 4 channel radio to get all the features. If Axial releases that version, it should be priced under $200 to be competitive. The current kit with the JK (ugh everybody is sick of jeeps) and typical crappy wheels is priced way too much. Side note: they're owned by Horizon Hobby, so guaranteed they'll screw things up.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Builder's kit? It will happen for sure. My guess is 12 months from now. The Axial SCX10 II Builder's kit is the greatest thing they offer today. It is unpolluted.

@LargeeeScaleLife 4 года назад

I’ll probably end up getting one putting in some new electronics down the road I think it honestly is the standard horizon stuff everybody complains a Traxxas is proprietary horizon is taking it to a whole Nother level just like a lot of the monster trucks I’ve gotten lately all spectrum integrated electronics hate it that radio is not bad for a basher but not for a crawler probably ditch it sell it planet towards something else

@RTmadnesstoo 4 года назад

Well, you talked me out of buying it. The only advantage for me is cost of electronic components and in this case there is none. I've got the 6 channel radio so I'll need to buy a couple servos (trans and steering), an esc, motor and receiver. No win, get the kit after they fix the transmission slop. BTW, first question is have they fixed the transmission?

@discusdog 4 года назад

Rich stated it will be a running fix. In other words roll the dice....or wait a while longer.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

The answer is no. From the initial running videos I've seen, it still goes clickety click.

@soysalem 4 года назад

Here in Spain we have only the kit version for 450€. Too expensive. For same price we have the TRX4 Defender in kit version with electronics not like the Axial. 549 for the Defender RTR

@TuxStang 4 года назад

See no problem with the 2-in-1 ... its ESC is 40A and for the price of a Spektrum 4ch radio if you want to try both DIG and 2-speed, you can get a GT5 or RC6GS with a 1080. It's a RTR, not a product designed for experienced users.

@montesamapping 4 года назад

We think that Axial is managed by crazy people ! Since SCX10 II they made some really stupid savings, that devaluate their good product. We have 4 Axial: - 3 of 4 broke the servo and we discovered that are "almost fully" metal gear, because all the gear are metal EXCEPT ONE (really incredible!!), so that plastic gear breaks as you fall and touch front tire on the ground - Honcho has metal vs plastic gears, so that metal one erode plastic one (for 10 euro we get all metal gear from Amazon) - tires are awful for performance and also look (too thin and too hard) And now the news from you (appreciable as usual !): - 3 channel in a four channel environment - all-in-one ESC+receiver...to save how much...10 dollars ?? (the cheap, but good Hobbywing 1060 costs 16 Euro!) They made everything to make you choose to get stuff from other vendors... really crazy choice !! If you try Reely, except for the body (quite row), you get a good quality Crawler, really comparable with Axial, but RTR at 230 Euro !! And after some months the servo is still working! It's a real sadness for a good brand as Axial.

@rcwreck-creation 4 года назад

It almost seems like they made the RTR to sell more build kits!? Maybe they figured people who buy the RTR will have no interest in upgrading? I always thought RTR was a way to add a little value and get people to spend a little bit more over a Kit? I think this RTR has less value then the kit.

@ConditionZero76 4 года назад

The finance geniuses at the top figure that all out well before it ever goes to market.. your always better in my opinion to buy the kit because you get to do with it what you choose, buy the motor you want, buy the radio /esc etc that you like!! buying the RTR your paying a good amount more up front & getting cheap 20 dollar motors & electronics that your gonna toss anyhow.. either way your not necessarily saving per say, because you'll still be shelling out $$ for better parts, but atleast with the kit your not burning money & tossing it to the trash!! I couldnt tell ya at the rtr motors /electronics/ controllers that I have & never used..... 👍🏼

@NaturallyRC 4 года назад

"Revolutionary" ?? Hmm. Apart from that one quibble, good pro/con essay. Btw I am truly shocked that the initial release reviewers failed to focus on the negatives. ROFL.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

revolutionary for an Axial. We get the impression that initial reviewers are given the rc for free so it is difficult to be open.

@NaturallyRC 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel I still think revolutionary is too strong LOL, and I consider myself an Axial guy. "Discouraged" Nice way to phrase it.

@russelllashley9600 4 года назад

Yeah that doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense even the Traxxas trx4 comes complete ready to run with the appropriate servos and number of channels to operate all of the features I was thinking about an RTR however now I just don't believe axial will get my money

@sabresswords 4 года назад

Just get the gen 8 axe. For 500 bucks you get way more.

@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 4 года назад

My original SCX10 One still performs well... My SCX10 IIs perform well. There's NO way I would spend $500 on a SCX10 III, that's DOWNGRADED!! I've always loved Axial... But they really screwed the pooch this time. 😖 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

@squadleader2010 4 года назад

I'd pass on the RTR. That ESC/reciever combo along with the radio are deal breakers. A Radiolink rc4gs(4ch transmitter, comes with 6ch reciever) and a HobbyWing 1080 ESC (for example) is less than the difference in price from the kit...with $$ left towards tires...or whatever. Thanks👊🍻

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

agreed.

@thornmatthew8395 4 года назад

Why are these rtr’s so... expensive. Especially considering they are brushed. I’d consider getting into crawling but not when I can get an erevo or infraction for similar cost.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

With the competitive pricing of Element RC and Redcat, this becomes less apealling.

@LEORedSun 4 года назад

I love everything about this SCX10 III until I ran it. The TRX4 and previous SCX10 just run better. Also, is it me or this thing just sounds aweful? If it wasn't for this new Jeep wrangler body, I think I would be selling it.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Appreciate that Robert Hall!!

@KTMcaptain 4 года назад

$130 more than the kit. $60 for a HW1080 and HH sport motor, $20 for dss servo, $30 for 2 micro servos, and $20 for another receiver to run with the radio you already have... you'll get a far better performing kit with full functionality. Or get an $80 fs gt5/ rc6gs for $50-60 more than the rtr kit. If you want dig and trans you'll need to ditch the esc cause its tied to the receiver, buy another dig servo, and get a receiver. Comparing the two kits, getting a gt5, 1080, and 2nd micro servo puts you at $640 ($615 with keeping the esc and getting the DX5C radio instead)... the same setup with a better motor, likely stronger, and the peace of mind knowing that fasteners were loc-tited and gears were greased costs $560. No brainer... the RTR sucks. If they gave a 4 channel remote then more value would be there. At least with trax-ass you get a decent radio and full functionality with their RTR. It's hard to build the traxxas kits for cheaper than the RTR making sure either has full functionality. The SCX is basically adding $115 to the RTR just to have full functionality.

@aymanmohamdy9625 4 года назад

I prefer the Redcat Gen8 Axe in this price point

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

We hope the Gen9 is coming soon.

@aymanmohamdy9625 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel would be great ... with smaller axle housing I hope

@jonthomas8487 4 года назад

What’s tough is the TRX4 Gwagen is only $399 now. I know not the best body, but you could upgrade to awesome wheels and tires, cut the fenders and have a pretty amazing rig that’s much better than this thing. In any case the Blazer/Bronco is going to destroy this thing especially stock tire to stock tire

@theskeptik1 4 года назад

I'd take a trx4 sport over this any day. I would also take the scx10.2 over it.

@gfyracing7632 3 года назад

Major Con of the Gladiator. Mine died after only 2 batteries. Motor and dig servo are both out. Only steering and lights work.

@juanlechuga9200 4 года назад

I did totally missed they were using a receiver / esc combo. It is supposed to be 40A and waterproof, won't rush final thoughts until you test it (maybe it is amazing and this was the way to squeeze that performance in the price), but first impression is not good . At least it has a programming card sold separately. Axial said they did prioritize the dig because most people don't care on the 2 speed that much (this is also why they are not updating the transmission for 2 more different gear ratios, that may be the reason why people buying this car shall not really care about 2 speed). I understand the rationale, but then why carrying all those gears around? O would prefer the dig, and won't be able to use both unless I go for a big electronics upgrade (which would not be my priority if I'm buying the RTR) Love the aesthetics, suspension and chassis but I think the TRX4 is a better package for what this vehicle is aimed to.

@HL-OOI 4 года назад

I’ll wait for just the kit without the wheels, tires and body..could be below 300..😁

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

You and me both! Builder's kit.

@demofilm 4 года назад

Add the prize of a crate of beers, and you have a traxxas 5ch trx4 . Screw my mates beer i am going for the traxxas

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Right on. In the US, the Bronco is $50 cheaper. Many beers!!!!

@miker1473 4 года назад

Hmmph....looks like the best upgrade to the scx 10.3, is a Traxxas trx4.

@ralphhondaman 3 года назад

This review has many problems in my opinion just this this review is based off his opinions. One a rtr that comes brushed wouldn't have the option to just go brushless. Why? Because a brushed esc can not run a brushless motor so regardless yes you have to replace the esc and motor. Another thing is they went with the spektrum smart esc because its a smart esc. He didn't explain any of the functions of the esc. It is a 4 channel and it runs on DSMR so you can easily go to a spektrum dx5 and so on to have more channels so all you have to add is the sx107 servo for 2 speed option. The esc is fully programmable with a program box and has a lot of options to go with and has 2 plugs to run lights off of and 3s capable. But in theory this rtr is setup just like most out there only to have to upgrade the transmitter for more functions and most in the hobby already have a remote for this unless they are not running spektrum.

@nunodias3331 4 года назад

Axial just shot itself on the foot... i rather have the scx10 2, and i do have it

@keithcerce8445 4 года назад

Where are you going axial ?? My 1st axial compared to my last. And some others i steered clear of in between(capra) nope. Think im allset. Just 1 very simple Example.. My 11 year old scx 1 still has most, if not all of its original hardware. Somewhere between the yeti and the bomber the hardware got...... Softer ? I'll just stop there b4 i get to any real issues. I could be writing all night. I should revisit my idea of the gen 8 axe. When the gen 8 first came out i took a hard look. Then the wendango ...wrath looking brushless rock racer came out but wasn't quite what i wanted. I noticed cause it seemed like a good deal. I bought a redcat kaiju a couple months ago. It IS a good deal. I think redcats heading in the right direction. I have never b4 had a rtr that was assembled this well. Who ever put this one together, my hats off to you. Outstanding job. Grease, lock tite, this guy even used wrenches to tighten stuff. Everything was adjusted perfectly. There is ALWAYS something wrong w a ready to run... But im yet to find it on this redcat. My only slight disappointment, its not really 8th scale. The electronics and motor are but the truck is 10th. Its the same size as a stock 1999 traxxas tmaxx 2.5. No its not the biggest toughest most durable truck out there but i feel its an awesome truck for the money. Its also making me reconsider redcat. I will be looking out to see whats next from them.

@melmyrtle5765 4 года назад

As much as I really want to like the truck it just has too many issues. I really hate the integrated electronic system for the RTR that was a terrible idea. The other thing is I've seen on a couple other reviews the tolerances between shafts and gears look horrible. Major play between the gear and the shaft That's all bad in a crawler and any RC for that fact. Where they had an opportunity to make something a lot better than their competition I think they really missed the mark. In the price point and with the features the Gen 8 axe and the TRX4 bronco just seem to be so much better of vehicles. When I first seen it they quickly made its way to the top of my list of two buy vehicles in the near future. Unfortunately it has slipped way down that list. Even the kit for the price point and the quality I'm getting I would rather add an element RC or gmade or even an RGT or an MST. Do I think the truck has a lot of potential sure but not without putting enough money into it that you could have literally bought in one of the other rigs in its class. That's just my two cents personally I wanted to give money to axial for the next vehicle in my list so I went with an SMT-10. I hope they use that money to refine the SCX10III .maybe in the future after they've refined it I will add one to my fleet Time will tell.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

agree for sure.

@ectoplasm6453 4 года назад

that decision to make the ESC into a combo unit with the receiver is going to cost Axial..getting a 4 function capable rig with a 3 channel system is bad enough already, but that ESC 😕

@Malachi_Marx 4 года назад

Those are legit PLUSES, not negatives.

@aiwaloki 4 года назад

It makes no sense with the way they setup the electronis with 3 ch. radio and a 2 in1 esc/receiver.

@InteractiveDNA 4 года назад

You can save a lot money and have something even better with a drone flight controller and esc. You use a flight controller to control anything for miles. away from the rc. I don't understand why rc still use old technology when escs and flight controllers are 1000% better. And the size of them are so so small. There are many flight controllers out there that will control a RC. And even make them autonomous.

@johnwindsor9069 4 года назад

Doesn't Axial look at the prices of current crawlers on the market? You can get a TRX4 Mercedes 4x4 for $399 with all 5 channels working. It has an amazing body as well. Sorry, not impressed with Axial's RTR.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

Agree. They're chasing features and checklist items and driving the price up to be competitive. Even DIG... very few really want. And the 2-speed that doesn' offer much range is not compelling.

@johnwindsor9069 3 года назад

@Guy Number 1 No cheats at all. The individual servos have their own slot to plug into the receiver, seperate channel kind of thing. Yes, it would be nice to have end point adjustment, but it's not a computer radio. Maybe be able to use the bluetooth module to adjust 4 and 5. Have to look into that.

@LeftenantMalachi 4 года назад

TRX4 Bronco or Blazer far superior for the money!

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

That 2 year old RTR? You may be right.

@warpspeed9.985 4 года назад

Would still rather have a SCX10II. 🤣🤣🤣

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

That is legend.

@nunodias3331 4 года назад

I have one still mostly stock and its awsome

@warpspeed9.985 4 года назад

@@nunodias3331 . I have the raw builder's kit. Put the axial Cherokee body on it. It's a simple, excellent trail truck/ crawler. It's also the smoothest and quietest truck I have.

@warpspeed9.985 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel . Yes sir it is.....

@rc-daily 4 года назад

My wife just said "he means 500 pennies." Im screwed!😔😔😔

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

500 benjamins!

@rc-daily 4 года назад

@@RCReviewChannel that's right! As much as i love axial products i don't think ill buy a 10.3 rtr. I might do a kit and build one the "right" way. I feel like axial had their chance to straight smash the trx4 and they fell a mile short. Why offer so many features and say "ahhh they dont need this or that.."

@Malachi_Marx 4 года назад

Seeing having the 3 channel is actually the reason I'm going with the RTR. Digs are just stupid and worthless, so not worth the time. And with your complaints about the receiver and ESC... Come on man... When you add the electronics, the kit comes in WAY over the 499 number.

@shaunsanford2253 4 года назад

Im a little disappointed in this rtr. The trx lineup seems to really out shine. But time will tell.

@RCReviewChannel 4 года назад

The crazy thing is the TRX Bronco is over 2 years old now and it still leads the way.

@ekpauly 4 года назад

Its kinda silly, the manufacturer just wants the product out there to buy, they have this mentality that “Oh, if it’s someone that’s into the hobby they will upgrade anyway” so we cut the features. The whole ESC receiver combo is a joke, there is no reason to buy a RTR.

@douglaselliott8298 4 года назад

I’ll certainly NOT be purchasing this gilded-lily. After discovering my thumb was repeatedly and unwantedly activating the DIG on my RTR Capra I fashioned a guard to keep my thumb from accidentally doing so. Then I discovered the wireless digital headphones I regularly wear while driving my RC crawlers would occasionally/erroneously ‘activate’ the DIG feature and force me to disconnect then reconnect the battery (a reboot) so that the DIG would DIS-engage. I finally pulled the DIG’s servo/receiver plug and zip-tied the transmission into constant 4WD. If Axial thinks I’m going to pay $500 for a provenly problematic DIG system I don’t want and/or a completely superfluous 2-speed transmission I have absolutely no need for they are sadly mistaken.