Bachelor Fantake Do you have another RU-vid channel? A guy as talented as you has to have more videos! I watched a video about “The Office” and the narrator had a similar voice as you, not quite as polished though. Is my tinfoil hat correct, Chad?
@@HoratioMcAlge I hope it's not. My gut tells me she didn't mean it like that even though I can TOTALLY see why people would say that. "Man and woman" vs "two people in marriage". I do think she said "man and woman" because she's thinking of herself and a man having intercourse and so it came out that way. If she meant it to be homophobic then I'm horrified and deeply upset. But I think in her mind it was a response to an event that happened, her and a man, so that's why she said it. Still when you're on TV and a global stage it's your responsibility to be more conscious of that.
I feel like in the next episode, they will reveal that Hannah is actually saying “Luke I can’t give you this rose... unless you open up to me” or something similar 🤔
I feel like she will say “I can’t give u this rose but I’m inviting u to the cocktail party so hopefully u can figure out how to open up before the rose ceremony”
This episode was so irritating... at this point we don't even know half of the cast's relationship with Hannah (Devin, Dustin, Dylan, Grant, Kevin, and a little bit of Garrett) all because of the Luke P bs. Hearing Luke and Hannah talk to each other makes me loose brain cells
Also I figured out why Hannah is keeping Luke around, she was him last season with Colton, she has a lot of sympathy for the light he’s being put in from the guys cause SHE was that person.
I watched her interview on Viall Files and she said something about Luke P reminding her of her long term ex (and something along the lines of wanting to pry the good out of him and kinda fix him))
Which sounds a whole lot like the whole Cassie and Colton thing, and he still chose Cassie anyway. Both Cassie and Luke S are terrible at communicating clearly, obvious red flags and questions of character everywhere, and there both completely imature. Still look at who was chosen even though Colton was "so serious about who was there for the right reasons" guess what everything bad that the girls said about Cassie and Calyen was true, but guess who he was the most attracted to, even though she wanted to leave him, and was not ready to even try to date at first! Not saying she's gonna pick Luke S, because she's obviously fed up, but it's pretty shallow to just keep this guy on the show because theres chemistry, the only chemistry those two have is physically, other than that it's pretty hard to watch them try to have a conversation. I hope the other guy's are seeing how her character is looking in all of this..... Not so good.
If Mike is positioning himself to be Bachelor (feeling pretty sure Hannah won’t pick him, still wanting to stay and get a good edit)... he’s doing a pretty good job.
Hannah is very attracted to Luke P. and doesn't want to be wrong in her initial impressions. He probably is like guys she dated in the past so she's trying to get him to validate her own ideas of him so she can trust herself. But this guy is emotionally void and relationally immature. He also seems shocked that anyone would call him on it- Hannah and/or the guys. My guess- he hangs out with people exactly like himself and is attractive enough to certain types of women not looking for anything other than a Southern, Christian, conservative, alpha, stereotypically attractive dude. That isn't Hannah.
Hannah has to understand on some level that if Luke P can't even communicate with her on such a basic level that he's not ready for a relationship, let alone a marriage. She can't keep stringing him along like that.
This right here is way more important than anything else he’s actually done on the show. She can’t communicate with him. She can’t even ask a simple pasta question.
I know! I loved JPJ! Why did she let him go? I don't think he would have been her final choice, but I wish she'd kept him around longer. His mock labor had me rolling.
Ever notice how dilated his eyes are all the time? I don't see the others really looking like that. Maybe some of it is reaction to the cameras, but he always looks like he's on something.
Probably on some Coke. I thought the same thing. Like even in the light his eyes are that way. He seems like he’s on the coke...everything would make sense
See I don’t think he’s fake at all. I just think he is so unintelligent he doesn’t know what’s going on. I’ve noticed lately he says words to Hannah yet doesn’t really say anything lol. I’ve too noticed his dilated eyes. And they are always like that too. My guess is drugs also. But, believe it or not, guess who is the Vegas favorite to win?
I love how during the group date the three guys who succeed in the competitions were the three guys who are Hannah’s favorite, coincidence, I think not!
1. Your opinions on pastas are spot on. 2. You can never really get to know a sociopath, so she will never get to the inner Luke P. 3. Luke S. is a weasel. And he chose to exacerbate a bad situation rather than disengaging and deescalating. 4. You can almost hear her panties melting off when Tyler looks at her. 5. Mike put himself in the friend zone. The day went well, but at dinner he lost his mojo. But I could definitely stare at that smile and them flawless brows for a season. 6. Jed: too "Keebler Elf" to win. 7. Peter: a contender, but is beta to Tyler. Probably the best husband/father material though, and he will age well. 8. JPJ 2020.
I think Luke P is just immature and I don’t know what to make of Peter. He was adorable this season but not that great as the Bachelor. I hope him and his family are doing alright! I agree with the rest though (and if it weren’t for all their complicated history, I’d probably ship Hannah with Tyler) Better move for Luke S would be doing like Jackie on Sean’s season & saying to himself “you know what she’s going to find the right guy for her and she will eventually see Luke P isn’t it”. Just as you said, he did not actually disengage because he used his dying breath in the competition to talk to her about other men despite his decision to quit giving a surface appearance of “de-escalating”. Would the season have been different if he had just said goodbye and left quietly? What do you think?
I think Luke not revealing anything about himself shows more than he’s dumb than actually manipulative. My ex who was toxic would use his past to excuse his behavior, he used my past to excuse my problems with him, Luke doesn’t do that at all. He’s blank, he says one thing over and over again, he’s waiting for her to be fully in love like everyone else has cause no one challenged him before. Somehow he found his script that worked on everyone in his life and he can’t understand how to cater to someone’s needs. He even does basic manners to all the guys in the house after they have said they’re through with him because they need something different than what he’s giving. Giving to people is new which could be why he’s also super into God now. Someone told him that he needed to give back and he May think being religious is the answer? How bad of a Christian can you be if you’re CHRISTIAN?
Finally someone who said it, I feel that he was being a target since he told Hannah I love you & the rest of men have been nitpicking every little wrong thing he’s done
I think that the more Luke is being bullied, the more emotionally shut down he is becoming. Even Hannah is constantly telling him what to change for her. No guy will ever feel safe enough in a situation like that to be able to be vulnerable. If all you’re getting from people is constant criticism, it is normal to go into self protective mode.
Carole Beth I hadn’t actually thought about that. If we see his perspective as just he doesn’t know what’s going on and everyone’s always mad at him, of course he doesn’t want to reveal information, it’s constantly used against him.
I would love Mike to be The Bachelor. He’s fine and lovely. Luke P is definitely getting that 1 on 1 Rose. Hannah’s gonna say something like “I can’t give you this rose if I don’t know you want it.” Guaranteed.
I think Luke S actually left before the Rose Ceremony even began. At 2:14 you can see Hannah has not picked up a rose. The editing makes it seem more dramatic if he interrupted the ceremony , but he probably asked right after she finished talking
really it doesn't seem like it at all quite the opposite. she looked like she had a great time with him if you compare it to the one on one that she had with Luke P
@@mariagarcia-de9vc just curious, are you basing that on this recap, or last night's full episode? I feel like the recap left out many awkward moments. I agree it didn't go bad in the way that Luke's date went. There was just something missing, I felt, when watching the full date.
I'm loving how Hannah is, in her own words, calling her own shots. She's trying to figure out things on her own and follow her own heart and gut feelings instead of being told what to do and what to think and I dig that. I totally understand her need to keep Luke P around and figure out her feelings for him and what their relationship really is. I truly want her to get full clarity and closure on that relationship and be able to move forward. Having said all that, I don't wanna sit through having to watch her figure it out. I'm so over this season if Luke P is the one the narrative is surrounding the whole time. Wake me up when he's gone.
Malini Laxman I also understand her need as frustrating as it is. I think we’ve all been there where we know a person has red flags and isn’t a great fit but you can’t let go. But to get outta that ya gotta rip the bandage off and just remove them from your life. The way she’ll move on from him is by letting him go. And hopefully SOON
Okay so this is a spoiler for next episode so please ignore if you're unspoiled but: According to the promos, Hannah actually eliminates Luke after this date. He then comes back and refuses to leave, I'm assuming the producers had something to do with him coming back so yeah, it sucks but I don't think she wants to keep him on the show.
@@kk19091 ugh you're probably right about those meddling producers trying to keep up the show drama. Like how much do you wanna bet they sent Kevin up to interrupt Jed and Hannah thinking they would start up another drama and were upsettingly shocked when the guys just laughed about it later? These guys all get along too well for them to let Luke P go lmao.
@@jayson946 spot on, we've all been through this or seen someone go through this and to fully be able to get through it we gotta work through it ourselves and she's doing the right thing. I'm just so done with sitting through it lmao.
I know Jed is a fan favorite (as well as one of Hannah’s favorites,) but I just can’t see him the same way after he admitted that he originally went in the show for his music career. Jed was clearly cast to be a serious love interest for Hannah, but he obviously didn’t feel that way throughout the casting process, which means he faked emotions, lied about his intentions, and told the casting directors all the right things to get on the show. No matter how much he says that he’s there for Hannah now, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he can be extremely manipulative and that he can hide this manipulation very well. It’s a huge red flag that I think people are overlooking.
That’s what makes me think he’s the guy behind Hannah’s “Jesus still loves me” spiel. Most people think it’s Luke P. but I think he’s just a red herring. If it isn’t Jed it has to be someone else who has had a really good edit so far because drama.
from his facial expressions and his words, i truly believe luke p does't even grasp the level of emotion that hannah, and this game, require. he has nothing to say past the surface and hannah sees it now
iftlatlw I completely agree! He’s so completely shallow and all he ever says is what he thinks Hannah wants to hear. During the date on the cliff he was literally repeating the thing she said back to her. It’s insane.
@@elena4256 Often manipulative people will "mirror" you. Not validate you... Just mirror your own personality back to you...so you THINK they have a very compatible personality to your own...but they're hiding their true intentions. Copying you is easier than building an imaginary character from scratch...and is also more likely to impress you than pretending to be just anybody. I am NOT saying Luke P. is manipulative...I don't know his intentions. But you saying Luke was repeating back Hannah's own words to her instead of sharing his feelings... reminded me of this common ploy narcissists and other manipulative people do. Actually, someone did this to Donald Trump on a job interview and it made him like her much more...until she told everyone what trick she was using.
Once again...huge Mike fan! Love that guy. He’s fun, he’s sweet, he’s charming, he’s awesome! I sure hope he’s the next bachelor. I just have so much respect for him. And milk was a bad choice. 😂
You should watch Married at First sight!! It's so good and I really think you'll like it. And new season starts today so idk if that's too late of a notice but there is always next season 😉!!!
Luke P is definitely the guy behind the "Jesus still loves me" scene! In his intro, he claimed to be a strong Christian...and if that's true he could make a big deal about Hannah not being a virgin
Hailey Bakes in a way hoping it is about Luke P bc I’ll be torn if it turns out to actually be about one of the other guys who are looking to be top picks
I disagree. I don’t think it could possibly be Luke because it’s easy to say it’s the villain. It’d be more dramatic for a fan favorite to be the one and I wouldn’t put it pass the producers to edit it that way.
@@crazylittlebright That's definitely a possibility I just couldn't imagine any of the other guys making her this fired up. I think if they had a problem with it, most of them would explain their feelings rationally
Hailey Bakes I kinda hope it is Luke P because of how awesome all the guys have been but I just think someone is going to say something and it gets twisted and then Hannah blows up
I think it’s easy to forget that this is a reality TV show and we are still dealing with raw human emotions . In this sense, I will give Luke P the benefit of the doubt. In this episode Hannah demands multiple times to see an expression of Luke P’s raw emotions. The problem is, if Luke P truly has real and raw emotions inside with built up walls , demanding someone to break them down then and there (in that moment) is never going to work. However, Luke P should have considered coming into this show that it was probably going to be necessary to find a way to take down those walls on demand like so many of the other guys have done. Hannah also spoke earlier about how she liked that Mike was like an “onion with many layers”. I think Hannah also likes the fact that these layers came apart so easily. The reality is, not everyone can open up their layers on demand or in that same way. Especially if what is holding Luke P’s layers together is some type of past traumatic emotional experience. I know Mike has gone through many things that can be considered traumatic and should affect him letting his walls down but the reality is everyone handles emotional trauma differently. Another example of a very similar scenario that occurred in this show is when Colton and Cassie had their date during the suite episode. It was clear that Cassie, similarly to Luke, was having trouble opening up on demand about her emotions. Colton was so set on his feelings about her that he went as far as to pursue her after the fact (ending of the show) to give her the time she needed to open up to the relationship and let things take its natural course. It was a huge risk, but ended up working out well for them. If it wasn’t so early on in the show, I would say this could have easily turned into another Colton season. However with so many other great contenders, it’s probably best for Hannah and Luke P to call it quits.
well said! I think it's too much pressure for Hannah to ask him to 'be real' and share his emotions. I say in the kindest way that he probably needs therapy. it definitely seems like shutting down his emotions and performing for people around him has been his way of coping with his trauma. if he has needed to act like that for a long time to survive in a traumatic environment (maybe his childhood? who knows), then those walls don't just come down.
Favorite line of the night was “if there is anything you don’t like about me let me know” my girlfriend and I were like “well you don’t listen for starts”
Some people including Bachelor Fantake have said that Luke is a manipulator, but am I the only one who thinks he's not a good manipulator? I feel he's the kind of person that just steamrolls as they go and whenever faced with a bump in the way, halts or swirls around and when he does try to use manipulation and deceptions, his actions come out as poorly calculated and easy to see through. I think Luke is not all this conniving psycho that people say he is, but just a mixture of narcisism, poor management of aggressiveness and especially lack of emotional maturity. It's more of a question that how much Hannah is willing to put up with Luke rather than how much Luke can manipulate Hannah. PS: Not Luke making a literal surpised Pikachu face when Hannah says "I can't give you this rose".
I have a theory that the entirety of next week's episode is only going to be: 1) the end of this 1-on-1 with Puke, 2) the cocktail party, and 3) the rose ceremony and nothing else
That vacant, emptiness behind Luke’s eyes while the rest of his face is aghast that Hannah isn’t giving him that rose.. Yikes. I’m sure Hannah is just fighting her own desire to see goodness in Luke after all. But dang.
@@halaalonezy6925 Hannah B seemed like she wouldn't have been the Bachelorette when she was all caught up in the drama. I think we've seen enough good things from Mike for him to have a good chance. Am I sure? No, but we won't know for sure until they announce it.
The only reason Hannah is keeping Luke P. around is because she is thinks he is good looking. Has anybody ever had the crush in school were you think he is super cute but he has a crap personality and ever time you talk to them they talk to you like absolute crap but you still like them cause they are cute? That is Luke P! She just needs to get ride of him because one day his looks are going to go away.
The fact that there have been numerous red flags that Hannah can see from Luke P and yet she has not done anything about it is so sad to see. If this was say Rachel this man would be sent home by now. Sucks to watch Hannah who genuinely seems like a good and awesome person keep around someone who she obviously won't end up with and lose time with guys who could be good fits for her.
I really wish producers would take a bit more of a "trashy" reality tv route when Luke spews out his contradictory BS and would just play the clips of him saying the complete opposite after he goes on a tyrade
bro his face at the end is literally hilarious like he doesn’t say anything the whole night and she keeps asking but then is like totally shocked when she says i can’t give you a rose like total shift to like awww man wtf really i don’t get a rose. LIKE NO BUDDY YOU DONT THAT WAS LITWRALLY THE WORST 1 ON 1 I HAVE EVER SEEM YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHING BUD.
