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Watching Fouad Butcher the excel sheet was fun. I imagine there was a column where he could have plugged in the actual placing and the sheet would have pumped out everyone’s scores 😂
There was, off to the left. Sentiments out to the fan that developed the sheet, with Vlookup functions, only for Fouad to butcher it. Oh well, love y’all meatheads! ❤
Agree with Fouad,Iain, and Mike's sentiments about Hadi who I feel also should have won. A Mr. Olympia winner shouldn't be talked about as not having a striated chest and lacking detail in arms and shoulders but unfortunately for Derek this is the case. Man I truly miss prime Phil who amazed me in every single shot especially his most muscular and back shots. The 3D pop was out of this world. I've never felt that way about a Mr. Olympia winner since. Prime Phil Heath kills all these guys!
Agree with you. But once the era is gone, we have to deal with the current crop of competitors, you can't just write them off. They work their asses off too, just like the previous generation they deserve respect.
I had a chance to be there this year. A few take aways from a normie: - Your eyes went to Hadi the entire time. I was positive he was winning the entire time. - Derek was impressive, but wasnt "whoah thats a Mr O" - Hunter is so much better and bigger than you think. Never been a fan of his physique but man... So impressive to see on stage. - You do not understand the size of Andrew Jacked on that stage. Although a bit off, he looked incredible and dont see how Brandon beat him.
Thank you for the most comprehensive, logical, and unbiased breakdown of the top 3 I’ve heard yet 👏🏼 AND the Hadi walking off situation. Very level headed discussion. Dave and anyone else calling for suspension is beyond absurd
Loved the podcast but was not comprehensive at all. The breakdown was front and back poses, shape and condition. No one talked anout the side poses and they all agreed Hadi has better shape which is not true considering Hadi has a bigger waist and Derek has an X-Frame with small waist.
Omfg thank god you guys are back - I’ve been scratching at the fking walls 😂🙏🏻 Also respect Mike discussing his friends passing, RIP, it’s hard and we all appreciate Mike showing us it’s okay to hurt
BEEN waiting for this one! 3 Weeks Out tomorrow, you guys and the champions of our sport make the journey all the more better. Definitely gonna replay this for fasted cardio all week
Haha Vigorous Steve and I had a good chat with Paul at Mikes booth talking judging. My most shocked moment was running into Fouad and Ben at Iron Republic 😂 it was a great weekend
You guy are great! I’m 60 years old and I watch you guys all the time! Got to take a picture with Big Mike, but didn’t get a chance to catch up with the rest of you guys
Mike I went to your booth, I didn’t know you were going to be there and I was looking at your bad a$$ car then boom you were there , holly cow what a surprise, you were very humble , took like 3 pics with me , I asked you about your shoulder etc , great to meet you man , keep rocking man 💪🏻
Iain and Fouad the 24 hour road trip sounds amazing, those are exact same stories we have driving 20 hours down to texas for spring break! chain smoking cigarettes, and crushing chewing tobacco and coffees.
The sacrifice you make as pro I can't even fathom. I only competed once a year provincially for 5yrs and I thought that 20 week contest prep was hard. Iain , Fouad and Mike doing it as a career is a huge accomplishment and a major sacrifice.
Think a business decision was made. Hadi was a lot closer to Derek from the back than Derek was to Hadi from the front. Hadi was 1 or 2 in basically every pose while Derek was probably 5th in a couple, yes his back double is phenomenal but one great pose shouldn’t win an Olympia when you are possibly 5th best front lat or abs and thighs
These guys all give so much back to the bodybuilding community. It's so awesome 😎 Top tier entertainers and hilarious men. This podcast is such a great part of peoples lives 😊
Imagining Iain practically cracked out on zens and energy drinks wide eyed driving is an absolutely hysterical image . I can just imagine a cartoonish looking Iain looking all whily coyote lookin' @ss borderline psychotically looking around while driving 😂😂. Foaud you are a great friend helping drive that far too!
The Detroit Pro is going to be crazy with Nick Walker, Quint, Phil Heath, Brandon, Samson, Jay, Cbum, and Derek Lunsford all fighting for that top spot
Mike hit the nail on the head: Derek’s back double was very dominant, but not so much that it allows him to dominate a show. Derek has no ab & thigh shot, his most muscular is weak, his legs are still too small, chest and shoulders are big & full enough. And are we going to continue to dance around those glaring knots Derek had on his lats? Can’t criticize Ramy for it and then award Derek. I’m a fan of his but Derek isn’t there yet, Hadi deserved that win
I had the pleasure of meeting all of these guys at the expo and actually sat by there wives at saturday night finals, amazing people, everyone should listen to bro chat
Glad I got to see you at the press conference and the Wycked booth at the Olympia! I hope to move up and get Gold VIPs for next years Olympia in Las Vegas!
I normally don’t like people in general but watching this makes me want some cool friends fouad seems like he’d get you into some trouble really easily lmao
Huge fan and love Samson. When Fouad was talking about reassuring Samson on his success and trajectory with winning the Arnold and taking 3rd at the Olympia, I couldn’t help but say out loud “Like Nick Walker”. It’s already been done.
Agree with most of what you guys said. And most of us will probably never know how Hadi felt the pressure he was under. But i guess thats what it is to be on the biggest stage. Regardless of how he felt, it made for an awkward moment, for Derek, Samson and Brandon who were calling out to him. Bob made an announcement. It wasn't so much the disrespect but the unnecessary drama on stage that could have easily been avoided. Phil lost to Shawn and didnt make a Scene. Brandon curry won in 2019 and lot the next year to Ramy and took it well. Hell, Ramy in 2022 as the returning Champ got placed 5th and had nothing but love for Hadi. It doesn't matter how you feel, you eat it up and conduct yourself in the manner everyone is expecting of you, for your achievements and status you've attained.
@@FouadAbiad Agreed. It's not grounds for anything. And one would hope that he'll be fairly judged next year with no bias. But as far as us fans discussing the situation l, don't think there's much to say in Hadi's defence. It isn't the end of the world. But it also can't really be justified.🤷♂️
Probably they refer to Eric Kanevsky? His video is not out yet but he is a youtube prankster, often do pranks at bodybuilding expos. Eric said something about how Mike behaved, im not sure i remember correctly so i wont say it, we will see monday when he uploads the video.
You guys are so far off on thinking it’s no big deal Hady acted that way! Usually I agree with everything you guys say, but you are basically condoning every loser of a show to throw a temper tantrum. Jay lost 6 times and never acted close to that way. People like Shaq and other new viewers don’t want to see grown men act like angry little roidheads and then let their people of their country send death threats to everyone. It makes bodybuilding look psycho and like a complete joke.
Mike saying Samson shredded is the next Ronnie Coleman, couldn't agree more. Depending on Jacked's progress, he's in that same vein. Both of them have made astronomical progress, looking forward to the next year!
I'm interested to see your guys conversation after the judging analysis breakdown that Jim Manion has released. That would be another great topic of discussion
I thin hadi did enough to still retain the title Derek was great but I agree with Mike. Derek I think had some shots where he looks stumpy imo. Samson was awesome but I think he was tighter and more lines at the Arnold classic. As much as I love Samson he did have some transitions where the waist kinda went and being 300lbs I hope it doesn’t get to that because he is that good. I think he was a definite 3rd which is not a knock at all. He was much improved still and especially when he was in the middle it shows really how dominant he can be.
Aye man, I know imma sound like a bitch…. But you guys please take care of yourselves driving fast man. People die everyday doing that shit. Just make sure y’all safe man.
thanks for this review guys !! i don't wanna take anything away from Derek !! super nice guy and congrats to him for his victory !! but i think Hadi definitely should've won !!
Nick placed behind Hadi and Derek last year. While he did improve it was near as substantially as Derek so I could see him placing 3rd again and maybe sneaking into 2nd
It's not a problem that he walked out, the problem is that he had done nothing to calm his fans down after they overwhelmed Derek with hate and literal death threats. Derek fkn issued a statement, even Hany had to step up meanwhile Hadi was just riling them up with his rethoric.
You guys forgot to mention how Derek and Hadi always making step by step over the lane to make themselfs look bigger than samson, they realy gave samson a hard time
I think people forget the original context of “ shows are won from the back”. The original context was “ all other things being equal, shows are won from the back”. If the back was ALL that mattered, they would walk out back facing the judges, hit a BDB and Rear Lat and call it all day. It’s the WHOLE package that matters
Been using mikes way of training (the right way) and my chest and back have improved dramatically. I feel it so much more with less pain in joints. This man needs to be more known
Samson had the least issues when comparing to the top 3. Derek coming in 1st with no separation between his chest and delts and also clear injections in his lats which is basically going to be on every photo. Choosing Keone in 212 made me think they’d go for more shape/size and aesthetic over conditionning of Shaun, hence Samson winning. All that being said, they basically rolled the red carpet for him since last year when they didn’t require him to compete in an open show to qualify
@1:45:45 Keone was 207 at weigh ins. Tonio came in at 215 before pre-judging. At the Superstar Seminar Derek wouldn’t tell his exact weight but he said he was up around 20lbs, so he’s 220-230. It’s like a Diamond, the weight matters less than the quality.
Is Tonio not like 5’8-5’9? Not many 212 guys that tall. Also Kerrith still has like 10 pounds before he hits the 212 ceiling, i discussed this with him in Texas last year.
People should understand why they have it to Derek and it’s not because “his back was better” IFBB has always and will always be political or pull a political card whenever. I think they’re afraid to have the belt or title sit in Iran. It really doesn’t make sense. This whole switching up of Mr O year and after year is off because they don’t really do that
