BACKERBOARD/DRYWALL Transition Tile Shower Wall

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Where to stop the Backerboard (Hardiebacker/Durock/Kerdi Board) in the shower and start the drywall. Tile shower walls need to be waterproofed and drywall is not recommended in shower. So the backerboard needs to be stopped at some point and there needs to be a transition to drywall for the remainder of the bathroom walls that won't be tiled.
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@ericviveiros5574 3 месяца назад

There are so many DIYer with bad advice on here, and the comments full of people thanking them for teaching them... This video is one of the first I found sharing what seems like actual good info on this.

@jamesm1938 2 года назад

Is it too much to say I just love this guy. Have never seen a more caring, positive, encouraging person! Would love a link to the end song. You are amazing!

@kylethorpe4452 2 года назад

Absolutely perfect timing for this video. I'm just about to start on my master bathroom. Thank you Isaac! And congrats on the RU-vid award!

@saljablo2767 2 года назад

You know that thing is gonna leak

@tiolarrea 2 года назад

Your work ethics are super high. I am tile guy myself, but you are the best. Best of luck always, and keep up what you doing, teaching up high standards work ethics. True Professional!!!. Blessings my friend.

@alanbutler5210 4 месяца назад

Thank you very much for posting quality content like this. I have my own general remodeling/handyman company and am fairly new to the industry. Your attention to detail and the pride you clearly have in the quality of work you perform is a welcomed experience in this line of work. I am currently installing a tile surround with a shower tray at my folks house for the first time to help them out with the pan height going from a tub to a shower as they are in their mid 70's, videos like yours are invaluable. Thanks again for your positive attitude and for sharing your knowledge, information, and experience. 👍👍

@edzaffina9785 2 года назад

Congrats on the RU-vid Award! you totally deserve it! Thanks for all your help!

@dhammer5645 2 года назад

I also run my tile out minimum of 3" beyond the edge of the tub of shower base. I helps keep the corners between the shower base and tile as well as the transition between the base and the wall dryer as those spots are typically the spots that get wet and start to rot first.

@mkmaille 2 года назад

This is awesome and thanks for the tip. I started one of my baths and always used the mortar to seal between the sheetrock but will use the Multimax now. Thanks.

@benhobe Год назад

Great tip on adding a stud where the shower door will attach. Unfortunately, I have a drain/vent pipe on one side, but this will definitely help.

@pjwhalen5104 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing your expertise, your joy and your sincerity!

@rowanralston 2 года назад

This video is exactly what I needed right now. Perfect timing

@salb4982 6 месяцев назад

You’re a gift to all of us that we trying to become better on what we do Thank you coach and god bless

@randyrodriguez1789 2 года назад

I love this guy's videos. I have learned so much every time I watch his videos. Keep it up I hope one day I can do a shower and it coming out close to as yours.

@hugouribe1203 2 года назад

God bless you and your family my friend. Thank you again for the work you do bringing us excellent videos of you trade. I appreciate it sir.

@T.E.P.. 2 года назад

thanks COACH! You do such a stellar job on your vids ... Love the channel

@Corkboard753 Год назад

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

@rhyllested Год назад

Great video! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

@tilerman 2 года назад

Now this is great content! @ 1:00 mark Isaak is bang on right. Some jobs i go to no timber at this position and sometimes the backer board goes outside of the shower area or the drywall goes into the shower! With no timber joining the two. Unbelievable. WHO does this. It's nuts! Isaac, great advice mate.

@isaacbeckel2044 2 года назад

I'm a big fan of the hydro ban fluid applied. I tried the sheet and it's a really good product but I just have better piece of mind with the fluid applied and it doesn't take that long to apply

@deekmdrs 2 года назад

Thank you. Your videos are so helpful.

@josephmauldin3 2 года назад

I wish I would have known about the tape trick before I did my bathroom. I have some spots where I went over too far with the water proofing and you can see it under the paint. Now I know for the future! I am going to build a new house in about a year and will definitely be using that for a nice edge transition. Also the turned 2 by for blocking! So much more space for screws! 3.5" vs 1.5" wish I would have known that also at the time. Thanks for all the great information!!!

@stephengonzales3276 2 года назад

Looking sharp. Thanks for sharing.

@robertvillegas7472 2 года назад

Great job!!!🤙🏾wish we hadPerma Base wallboard hear on the big island! Cheers

@DaveSkor01 2 года назад

THANK YOU!!! I've always wondered about this...

@illmatic33 9 месяцев назад

This is the most under talked about topic

@michaeltwiz8477 2 года назад

Right on time boss!!!

@bucky5063 8 месяцев назад

Great video learned a lot thank you

@boppins 8 месяцев назад

I've just used regular thinset and it's quite annoying with how gritty it is, as it messes with your final drywall texturing, so the multi-max lite is a great tip!

@amazingfinishestechniques3476 2 года назад

Master class!! 💪

@juzoli 7 месяцев назад

I just extended it beyond the shower by a foot or so. 4’ board for a less than 3’ corner shower. Then I covered that 1 feet outside with mud, merging it with the drywall, and painted it over.

@bryankopesky8228 2 года назад

Good timing for my project! Not sure what happened to the insulation behind the backer board but suggest taking a little more time to place it neatly whether for thermal function or sound abatement. I love using Rockwool comfort batts which are easy to cut and install.

@DayTrader__ 2 года назад

Ur not gonna need that insulation! 😂

@lancefrank6742 Год назад

Tile Coach thanks for your videos. I’ve been doing granite countertops and showers and floors for 25 years. Now that I own my own business I’m trying to reconfigure products that last and help save money. My main question is have you used the James hardie backer with the hydro defense. If so what is your take on it.

@johngalv9288 2 года назад

Good video! thanks

@scorpio6587 2 года назад

Very educational

@j.johnson8360 2 года назад

I dig it.

@kennethgordon9194 2 года назад

The levels name is Dave lol. Love your videos!

@skipbickford3970 Год назад

Thank you

@never2be07 2 года назад

How do you stay so clean Coach? I looked like I fell into a bucket of cement when I was tiling my shower

@par3me 2 года назад

Love the content. You’re doing a fantastic job brother. What part of the Bay Area are you in?

@Coach-AB Год назад

very good.. thanks

@felipelarrondo1308 4 месяца назад

How do you pick what type of backer to use? I've seen you guys use multiple different ones from kerdi to durock and now with permabase. Is it just what's provided to you by the contractor? Or is it up to you guys to choose which one to use? I've always wondered which way is better and which one to stick with, but you guys are masters of all methods, I love watching your videos and I've learned a ton.

@pxods Год назад

Thanks

@williammorris3303 2 года назад

I’ve torn quite a few tile showers out from the 70s and 80s, they more times than not tiled directly to plaster and/or plasterboard. Tell me if I’m wrong but I’m my mind the most important thing is the waterproofing. Whichever method you use

@EduardoMiranda-yf7cc 2 года назад

U are the best .

@robertreynolds3997 2 года назад

No issues with the modified thinset (multimax lite) when using kerdi under large format tile?

@mattc5185 2 года назад

How do you transition/finish from the Backerboard (GoBoard) to the ceiling drywall.

@M.Jsmile 11 месяцев назад

what do you use on the ceiling? cement board or hydro ban board? will tile the ceiling but looking at studs now.

@emmanuelgutierrez8616 2 года назад

Request: Same video but for shower panels, like Nu-tile- tile look-a-like panels

@HillshaveIsaac 2 года назад

I have a few questions. 1. Why didn’t you add a poly barrier between the cement board and the iso? 2. Was that a Pex A coupling being used on Pex B?

@bibrules 2 года назад

Is it okay to leave the top 12” of shower drywall, if I plan to use Hyroban on the entire enclosure? Could I also cover that 12” in thin set or waterproofing membrane e before the hydroban?

@21gonza21 2 года назад

On the niche can you get away with applying water proffer on the drywall and only installing cement board around the inside? I have a 2x4 framing and adding a cement board inside the niche wall will make it smaller.. Also don’t you need to apply thinset to the screws?

@rich5034 Год назад

I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and taking the time to make this videos. Fish tacos on me when ypur in LA. 🤛✌️

@dougwells8463 2 месяца назад

Question: If using Hydro Ban board with a foam shower pan what would you use to apply the Hydro Ban fabric corners, Multi Max or the Hydro Ban liquid membrane?

@TostaProperties 2 года назад

Off topic, but noticed the ventilator system at the jobsite. what type do you use/recommend?

@TrentonFall Год назад

I'm building a chilled wine wall that I will put tile on the wall for an accent wall; it will be enclosed with a glass-enclosed. I will be insulating the wall with R19 or better. Q - should I just use backerboard or do I need to combine backer with greenboard due to moisture

@declanmanning4264 2 года назад

Can I ask why do you not always use backerboard for the wall? I often see mud used to screed the wall. Cheers Declan

@shaneburfield3196 Год назад

Use drywall mud and topical waterproofing over the seam

@Sugarshane88 2 года назад

Hey man I doing a house where the shower has a wooden base that's pre sloped usually I make my pans with dry pac what you suggest I do just schlueter it all

@shannon1872 Год назад

would backer board and say a red guard or hydro ban be better than the new foam products? I seen a lot of the videos you did on how some foam products can fail even if installed correctly. Seems like backer board would give more strength as well.

@toph2o676 2 года назад

I've always wondered why not just tape and bed the joints with waterproofing? Instead of thin-set.

@als1023 2 года назад

Waterproofing has no strength, just a rubber like coating.

@toph2o676 2 года назад

@@als1023 I'm sorry man but I don't agree with you at all. Waterproofing has two functions waterproofing and crack isolation. When going over cracks in concrete or cold relief joints you need to use crack isolation membrane. If you use straight thinset they will crack through your tiles, but if you use a crack isolation membrane the concrete or movement in the walls or floors has no effect on the tile. So what you're saying makes no sense at all

@ShaneHolly 4 месяца назад

Isaac do you have a prefrence to use 1\2 drywall next to 1/2 in cement boards or do you use 5/8 and float out the transition

@MrSarge99 7 месяцев назад

I don't know if there are any videos that answer my situation. I have two showers that are back to back then the one side of both showers are up against the wall to the kitchen then the dinning room. The studs on both showers are dry rotted. So do I have to remove the sheet rock in the dining and kitchen to replace the studs? Probably have to do the sill as well.

@jameyjeffords5631 2 года назад

I actually don’t transition….the whole bathroom is backer board/concrete board. I apply a stucco finish or tile. I guess I have PTSD from mold issues with drywall lol

@shmerd1 2 года назад

Backer board is much more difficult and unnecessary, in my opinion, but you be you.

@shmerd1 2 года назад

Also, I've torn out plenty of moldy backer board. It performs horribly when exposed to moisture. Sucks up water, gets all crumbly, and makes a great environment for black mold. If I could post pictures here, I have plenty. This is where the modern method of applying the vapor barrier to the installation surface shines. I don't even do morter beads anymore. They're just a trap for moisture. I'm hopeful I don't have to replace any of my shower pans. As far as I could tell in the video, he didn't preslope the niche cavity or the curb. Personally, think it's a good idea to preslope all horizontal surfaces.

@pkjr216 2 года назад

@@shmerd1 Have you ever had any of the New Red 1/2" Hardy Fail? I can't remember the name at the moment. It has some kind of Hydro Defense or something on it.. I have had 1 Full 3'x5' Board outside since October 2021.. Its now April 2022.. Its still dry and Feels like it was unnafected...

@shmerd1 2 года назад

@@pkjr216 I've become less of a fan of Redguard for the same reasons Issac doesn't like it. The 1/2 Hardi precoated with Redguard has the same problem Redguard itself has. It changes color when water sits on it. Both Issac and I agree that this suggest it's changing the properties of the product. If you're using it in an application that completely dries out it's probably fine, but in an application where it stays wet, I don't trust it. In one circumstance I coated the Redguard with an oil based rustolium waterproofing paint. I like the oil better. It beads the water and does not penitrate the surface. I won't use Redguard on shower floors anymore. I did a couple years ago and haven't had any call backs, but I'll only use it on walls now, and for that, I believe it's fine.

@Ksllks 2 года назад

I know what you mean!!

@jonathancaldera4972 7 месяцев назад

What about the ceiling, gow to transition that. Just joint mesh tape and mud???

@jerrycalovich 9 месяцев назад

Can you tell me what’s your favorite shower wall board? What do you use with customers currently? Thank you! Jerry

@mloaiza770 Год назад

I am going to add a small bathroom in an existing bedroom. I'm hesitant to remove the ceiling drywall because of the insulation that was blown in. Will it work if I just put green board over the ceiling drywall? Thank you

@TheHardVerse Год назад

Can you use purple drywall blasted with 3 coats of red guard for a walk in shower that’ll be tiled

@waymenlawrence2064 Год назад

I noticed that you installed the alkali-resrstant mesh tape on the joints without putting the modified thinset mortar on the perma base first, is there a reason for this? I ask because perma base says to put the modified thinset mortar on the perma base first then embed the alkali-resrstant mesh tape then apply the modified thinset mortar over that.

@Obshowersyndicate 2 года назад

I love u man

@marktormey7632 6 месяцев назад

About to tackle my shower. Do I hang the hardy board before I tackle the mud pan?

@jepp0711 9 месяцев назад

How do you do the outside corner 90 where drywall and cement board meet?

@briggshome7012 6 месяцев назад

I think it would be helpful if you explained one of the most frustrating things for the average tile guy (who watches your video and buys most of his materials from big box stores) is the "Nominal sizing" of tile backer board. Unless you know what you're doing, buying a 1/2" backer board will get you only a 3/8" thick product. That will NOT mate up well with 1/2" drywall. In this video, yours seems to mate just fine, so either you're using actual 1/2" backer board or 3/8" drywall.... Unless you really know about this, you can get into a bunch of problems when tiling from backer board to drywall on ONE PLANE. The best approach is to make sure you purchase ACTUAL 1/2" thick backer board for the surfaces that must meet up with 1/2" drywall. I've not found box stores in my area carrying actual sizes. I can only get it at pro suppliers....where you may be buying yours......but, your videos are for non-pros. The time to know this is BEFORE you get to the job with a load of materials that will cause you a headache.

@doubledragon9530 2 года назад

How much would a 48" x 72" RSS shower pan cost? We're looking at a standard central drain.

@maryjaneelisondo1748 Год назад

What size or thickness of cement board do I use on my shower walls and do I need to seal them

@TrunkShoes 7 месяцев назад

I’m watching the guys do my bathroom remodel and there is a half inch of space between the drywall and ceiling. Is that okay?

@napolitanotile2919 Год назад

I'm trying coil roofing nailer to fasten down my hardi backer board,I can't see them backing out or giving out,I'll mix my mud a little wetter ,I'm trying to save time and this seems logical,,,,Any feed back would be appreciated, I plan on using a ton of nails as well !

@brc9064 6 месяцев назад

Oh what type of liquid waterproofing did you use??😊

@bonitabromeliads 8 месяцев назад

What if you just used waterproof paint on the cement board? Would you need the tile?

@13Appleyard13 2 года назад

How much of a gap do you leave from the permaboad to the drypack shower pan?

@osheros Месяц назад

What about redi board? How do you transition from that to drywall? Same kind of thing? Or does redi have a product?

@jdg8534 2 года назад

How do you handle transition from to drywall at an outside corner

@johnwhite2576 2 года назад

why didn't you use your favored lacticrete hydrogen instead of vinyl liner on the bed as you did on the wall ??

@anthonynapier4668 2 года назад

👍 👍

@gilm7248 Год назад

does it have to be a 2x6 to screw into for the shower door? could you use a 1x6?

@doubledarefan 2 года назад

Now let's see all the tiles going up. I wanna see the build from start to finish. The whole reason I subbed to your channel.

@philrevahesq6180 9 месяцев назад

why dont you use laticrete 254 as your thinset when applying kerdi or laticrete sheet membrane? its rated for underwater applications. wouldnt this be better than multimax light or schluter allset if the goal is to waterproof after all. ALSO CAN I apply hyddroban cemetitious directly on drywall (my bathroom ceilings are done in drywall, my showers are steam showers, you think i could just waterproof there with hydroban cementitious directly over primed drywall shower ceiling?

@ianheslep 2 года назад

Have you ever used dragonskin waterproofing

@shawnupdegraff8138 2 года назад

Hey Tile coach! Would it matter if that joint was taped and smoothed over by the drywall finisher? I’ve done quite a few jobs where they wanted me to finish joints like that. Thanks for the videos and your reply!

@franciscoibarra1232 2 года назад

It shouldn't matter as long as you apply waterproofing membrane after

@RocNoggin 2 года назад

Why do liquid waterproofing on the walls but a sheet membrane on the floor?

@vinceferraccioli4661 Год назад

How would you do that if it was a out side corner

@devinholland2461 9 месяцев назад

What about the ceiling? most ceilings are 5/8 per code but most stores only carry 1/2.

@akeofalltrades 2 года назад

How do you handle the same transition for the wall to the ceiling joint?

@johnp4871 Год назад

I've worked as a drywall finisher for nearly 7 years now and am finishing up my studies to become licensed in my state. From my experience: I have seen builders use just the mold resistant drywall above and proceed to paper tape and finish it with regular joint compound (referring to the corners/angles where walls meets ceiling). Although I haven't seen the next phase in person. My best guess would be that the tile guys would then proceed and seal it up to the wall part of the angle.

@Nebulation Год назад

what are you making your curb out of with this system?

@abelardovelazquez323 2 года назад

Is it ready for tile or needs the water proof paint

@jvspek 7 месяцев назад

when to use perma base or kerdi?

@MrTooTechnical 2 года назад

Kick ass. Liquid monolithic coatings woohoo

@saulsifuentes3546 2 года назад

Why does your tile hang out 1/2 pass the line?

@martinsmadhousemusic8329 2 года назад

A question I have had is, given the pre slope and the final float on the shower floor, and the 1/4 per foot issue, where should the wall board terminate in the pan? 1/4 inch from the subfloor? Or from the final float? Thanks

@jonathansage2147 5 месяцев назад

1/4 inch from the subfloor and the walls should be done before the pan.

@jeffdeluca1153 Год назад

What do you guys think? There's Kerdi Board and PermaBase Cement Board. Outside the cost different what is the board of choice? Decisions decisions! Thank you to anyone wanting to help