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He TRIED to TILE his own SHOWER!!!--- WHY it would HAVE FAILED 

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Tiling a shower is harder than it seems. Sal Diblasi and I have some very detailed instructional videos, but we are professionals and have done this for a very long time.
Most DIY's will struggle with showers, as they require very precise planning and details. The waterproofing is critical, and if anything is not structural sound, failures can occur.
Getting walls plumb and flat is no easy task, and either requires wet shimming the wall board or floating the walls with a mortar bed. Trying to flatten wall with thinset as you set tile is usually an uphill battle that a DIY'er will lose. Leveling clips or spacers will not help in this instance. Leveling systems still require the substrate to be flat.
Waterproofing is also difficult. In this instance the homeowner used Kerdi membrane which requires thinsetting sheets together which can lead to areas of build out, or areas that bubble from the sheets not laying completely flat.
One of the biggest mistakes this DIY'er made was using 1/2'" kerdi-board for the top of the curb, which easily compresses and would have led to a failure if weight was repeatedly put on the soft areas of the curb.
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@codyalmarode6357
@codyalmarode6357 4 года назад
It's actually a really much better format, in my opinion, to show why something is wrong instead of saying "this is how you do it". You really never foresee the problem areas with DIY videos. Thanks for doing it this way and shout out to the owner for being man enough to admit he was in over his head.
@utot0210
@utot0210 2 года назад
TRUE
@ariannaaagrace
@ariannaaagrace 10 месяцев назад
lol
@TheRealMrGuvernment
@TheRealMrGuvernment 7 месяцев назад
100%. This is how i think most of us learn, especially me. I question everything, so understanding WHY is always paramount for me. When someone says "do it like this because I do" doesn't tell me why it is done that way and for what reason.
@smasica
@smasica 5 лет назад
You are very diplomatic in your analysis of what went wrong without insulting or demeaning the homeowner. Kudos to you. A very professional approach.
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean 5 месяцев назад
Mad respect to the home owner for being willing to be on camera. Not easy position for anyone to be in
@SalDiBlasi
@SalDiBlasi 5 лет назад
Thanks for the mention Isaac, it is never as easy as it looks, best to start with a small project before jumping into something like a large shower stall. Critical to understand the limitations of the tools and products we use.
@uriels4097
@uriels4097 5 лет назад
you are a boss
@patmos7521
@patmos7521 5 лет назад
Sal! You're the man! So much good knowledge. Thanks for doing what you do.
@TILEROB
@TILEROB 5 лет назад
Yup good videos sal
@chadhowell1328
@chadhowell1328 3 года назад
True words there Sal. Experience gained in those smaller projects will pay dividends in a large project after you have learned how the tools and materials work together.
@rochardbrown170
@rochardbrown170 3 года назад
@@chadhowell1328 6
@valeriej291
@valeriej291 4 года назад
In management, we always called that a “compliment sandwich”; start with positive, constructive criticism in the middle, and positive on the tail end. People are much more receptive this way. Good job with professionalism with that client. 👍🏻
@patbrummel5252
@patbrummel5252 2 года назад
Positive sandwich 🥪 yesss
@marvinmartion1178
@marvinmartion1178 3 года назад
You are truly a good man! I've been in the trades for 50years and you have humility and patience. One very important traits for any trades man. He's very kind with this man.
@aromero9243
@aromero9243 4 года назад
Making your walls plumb starts with plumbing your studs so that your drywall/backboards are also plumb. Bathroom renovations aren't easy. Probably the hardest room in the house to renovate.
@EliBleu
@EliBleu 4 года назад
I'm just discovering your channel. I've done around 7 kitchen & bathroom tear-outs & renovations. I gotta tell you that you're always calm, professional and humble with your approach. It would've been easy for a contractor to make this homeowner feel like an idiot but you presented yourself as a caring professional who just wants to help. I really enjoy your videos, keep them up man. Great Job!!
@damion1121
@damion1121 3 года назад
If you ever get a contractor who makes you feel like that, you need to hire a different one.
@jacksaad472
@jacksaad472 2 года назад
Tbh if anyone did that to me i'd fire them on the spot
@sanaehachi870
@sanaehachi870 Год назад
Yeah! Imagine if doctor yell and cursing you for drinking alcohol and eat fastfood. This how some contractor insult their hirer. People make mistake. This is the 1st bathroom. Contractor probably went throught dozen mistake before make it right. Tiling is hard work and it probably took you some trial and error - learning tips before get to do it correctly.
@stoicllc2352
@stoicllc2352 3 года назад
I am a contractor and for clients who want to try diy I always say go ahead and point them in the right directions. Worst case scenario they hire me to fix their work and they had a chance to learn
@romeobravo78
@romeobravo78 Год назад
I admire your attitude. Some on here admit to price gouging home owners who try and fail.
@nickduffy8919
@nickduffy8919 3 года назад
Kerdi board is meant to go on studs without drywall. I am certified by Schluter for shower installs. However, that isn't how they talk about how to do curbs. I don't know if this guy has taken a schluter course, but with that specific point he is wrong
@JustinMentionedIt
@JustinMentionedIt 3 года назад
Are you saying the curb was fine and could have been tiled on just fine? Also what courses ?
@tf5870
@tf5870 2 года назад
I rip out showers all the time. None of these builders make their shit right it all comes out like cake. He’s right though
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 5 лет назад
*I give this homeowner alot of credit for tackling that job!*
@76shogun1
@76shogun1 5 лет назад
He tackled it not....
@Goalsplus
@Goalsplus 4 года назад
And was brave enough to stop when it was going wrong and publicly admit it.
@dghcnu07
@dghcnu07 4 года назад
He did a fairly good job; just probably didn’t have enough time nor knowledge. Everyone was once a beginner!!
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe 4 года назад
He was drowning
@johnb9394
@johnb9394 4 года назад
@@dghcnu07 you are out of your mind. He didn't do anything even remotely good. He did something that he didn't know how to do instead of finding out the proper way to do it BEFORE he started. Homeowners are the worst when they "try" to save money.
@henrypena4280
@henrypena4280 4 года назад
That’s a Kerdi premade curb... what are you doing essay !!
@doughagemann2677
@doughagemann2677 3 года назад
no its not
@dpgt3478
@dpgt3478 5 лет назад
I think the kerdi was giving so much bc you were applying a lot of pressure in a 1/2” area. I’ve used that board a few times and once tile sets it’s pretty solid (if done correct) As far as any walkway you gotta use concrete board
@philllindauer5006
@philllindauer5006 4 года назад
I've had too many call backs on kerdi that others have installed in commercial buildings. Not very good stuff. Old school wall mud and floor mud or I don't do it but that's just me.
@WilliamSymionow
@WilliamSymionow 3 года назад
@@philllindauer5006 You probably fix more showers made the old school way. But Kerdi does require an educated installer and most are not. When done right, the system is great and backed by the manufacture.
@blaster-zy7xx
@blaster-zy7xx 3 года назад
I am a DIYer and have done several big project to before, so this was not my first rodeo. I did my own oversize shower. It turned out great, but I will admit that it was more work and time than I originally planned on.
@Eastbaypisces
@Eastbaypisces Год назад
Yea I'm debating if I should do tile or pre fabricated shower
@amandajohnson6922
@amandajohnson6922 5 лет назад
I cheated when I did my shower....plywood, then concrete board then membrane then mortar and tile and the biggest cheat....bootz shower pan. First tile project ever
@jonvanlandingham2538
@jonvanlandingham2538 3 года назад
I'd like to see a video of how you floated over the kerdi
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 3 года назад
But Kerdi recommends building custom curbs with 2 inch kerdi board strips
@BLuRMtz
@BLuRMtz 3 года назад
Yea they do, quite frankly the 1/2” foam on top of the curb was just fine, it offers a ton of support for the tile when installed, sure it’s soft when you force 2 fingers on it but once you spread the weight over the surface it holds a lot of weight
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 4 года назад
"you can't attach kerdi board to a 2x4 wood curb" But Isaac...you routinely attach Kerdi board directly to 2x4 wood studs on the walls in many of your own videos. Schluter has been around 50+ years and this practice is done all of the time with no problems and OK'd by Schluter. They prefer the use of their foam curb of course, but we all know that isn't always possible. ( I would prefer a PVC or HDPE Curb from them) Attaching Kerdi board to 2x4s..... There is nothing wrong with it. Yes there is deflection in Kerdiboard , but it looks to me that the Homeowner didn't adequately secure that Kerdiboard to the wood curb. Good square cuts of the board where overhang on one side may be pushing that top piece upwards and it is not laying flat?? Perhaps lack of screws? There are multiple reason why it could be "squishy", but likely it is not laying flush to the substrate
@jasonlalonde171
@jasonlalonde171 4 года назад
Any schluter can be attached to wood with a modified thinset the rest of it is unmodified. You can just use their "all set" any questions just call the company. Just did their innovation workshop . All their new plans and Curbs are already wrapped👌
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 4 года назад
​@@jasonlalonde171 Exactly. But you don't have to use Allset or Set underneath Kerdi Board. That would only apply if you are just wrapping with Kerdi material. When using Kerdi Board as shown in this video, where Isaac is complaining that it is "squishy"....Just use fasteners and then tape to waterproof, using Schluter Allset or Set unmodified thinsets under the tape. BTW...both Allset and Set are UN-modified thinsets. I've been using their shower products over 10 yrs......Plenty of workshops too...close to a dozen
@Freeagent-4-life
@Freeagent-4-life 5 лет назад
Thanks for your videos, in November 2018 we noticed a fault with our toilet and shower area. By the time the insurance and my plumber went back and forth it was another 3 month before I got a no from the company. At the same time our city got hit with a major flood and hundreds of homes were inundated. (Good luck getting a tradesman after that) Away just about finished the bathroom/toilet renovation thanks to yourself and other skilled youtubers. It's not perfect but it will do. Sure beats the porta potty and shower that we have been forced to use for the last 8 months.
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 5 лет назад
It's very tough to continue a wall/ floor that has with leveling clips that have dried over night. The next row of tiles helps level out the previous row. This becomes difficult if the previous row is dry. Issac. Who stocks denssheild in roseville/ rocklin? I tried to find some for a previous job and couldn't find anyone with it in stock. I have a curb on a current job that I was going to cap with kerdi. I think I want something firmer. Travis
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 5 лет назад
@@TileCoach Thanks for the heads up. So, what's really going on with you and schluter? The reason I ask is because a month or 2 ago you posted a video on the best way to build a shower. That shower had kerdi board/panel on edge for the shower curb. This shower has basically the same thing yet you say it's no good. I say basically because they both had kerdi board and were both approved by schluter. I am sure if you pressed on the curb of the previous shower it would flex just like this one. Not trying to call you out or nothing. I am on your team. I am thoroughly not impressed with kerdi after seeing the water test that you have done. I am going to make shower pan mockup. One side will be made with schluter thinset and the other with versabond. I mention all this because I am a perfectionist. I am always looking for a better way, as I believe you are. It drives me nuts when someone says that this is the best way and then sometime later they say it's wrong. Reminds me of not touching ardex products for almost ten years because someone told me that they sucked. Come to find out, they are awesome.
@rb8049
@rb8049 3 года назад
The soft curb is normal for kerdi. It has not been any issue whatsoever. I had same concern though. He could have left that alone.
@Apexjasonmorganllc
@Apexjasonmorganllc 5 лет назад
It's all in the prep.
@smellofrubber
@smellofrubber 4 года назад
Jokes man, the Mike Holmes of tile lol. Building a wall out an extra 3/16 is not a biggie, if it was nothing would get done on a REAL jobsite. Also schluter makes the most comprehensive tile installation system right down to cements engineered in house. I've used them in residential and commercial settings and have never had a failure. Reminds me of a bad tile setter running the price up on an easy install trying to out knowledge the customer, but speaking nonsense.
@charleyandsarah
@charleyandsarah 5 лет назад
I would agree with your stance on getting into the trades. Im a former engineer, quit 2 years ago doing contacting and portable sawmill work... much more rewarding. We have a few videos here and there, which certainly adds to the fun as I'm sure you know
@harrod19
@harrod19 5 лет назад
Same! Mechanical engineering degree and 4 years in to the real world I had to adjust. Renovating kitchens and bathrooms is so much more rewarding! The engineering education helps tremendously too
@tuesdayswithed
@tuesdayswithed 5 лет назад
Building trades can be a fulfilling career. I wish I would have had internet and you tube when I was young and considered the trades instead of going into corporate America which was a paycheck to paycheck trap for me.
@caseyb9930
@caseyb9930 5 лет назад
What's your opinion on hardie with redgard or hydroban for showers? This seems to be the standard here in maui, never used kirdi
@joseoviedo1644
@joseoviedo1644 5 лет назад
Casey B We’ve been doing it with hardie and liquid membranes for many many years and we’ve had never had any issues. Only issue we’ve ever had was when the trim guy used 1.5 inch penny nails to tack on his molding and ripped a hole in a pipe on the opposite wall of the shower. It leaked, but other than that no issues. I just can’t seem to comprehend why people like using paper thin materials to install in showers. With hardie or any other cement board you have a solid surface to tile and with the membrane you have an impervious shower. With the amount of money you waste on kerdi you can just redo your shower every 10 years to fit the modern tile trends. Just my 2 cents
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder 5 лет назад
I won't touch Hardie! Have seen too many failures....Isaac has as well. Redguard over concrete board holds up well!
@willinthearea6318
@willinthearea6318 5 лет назад
Hardie turns into mushy old cardboard if it gets wet and it can wick up water....The only thing saving your installation is the liquid membrane over Hardie. I prefer cement board with hydroban, goboard or wedi board.
@bigpjohnson
@bigpjohnson 5 лет назад
@@justinofboulder I've seen plenty of tilers who install Hardie without taping and mudding seams, or any waterproofing behind or on top of. Its easy to install, and really easy to install like shit! Its bound to fail eventually.
@boltup5566
@boltup5566 5 лет назад
His main problem was from not watching enough starrtile! Lol!
@bluemoose1
@bluemoose1 5 лет назад
starrtile is a legend.
@krehbein
@krehbein 5 лет назад
I don’t agree with everything starrtile does, but using a concrete board with liquid membrane (or foam board approach) would have cost less and saved him $.
@drewnation9905
@drewnation9905 3 года назад
Thumbs up for the customer letting you share this, that's awesome
@greavesplayz1572
@greavesplayz1572 2 года назад
I thought the same thing, great sport. I would be humiliated 😩
@Already100
@Already100 3 года назад
Lol for the shower curb ., too soft material.... ya you have to learn somewhere..... the homeowner just got frustrated with the entire project the home owner did a pretty much good job he just have to pay attention to detail and nowhere to use what kind of material Kerdi board that's why I don't use it... sometimes it's best to stick to old-school traditions
@seanmulholland7597
@seanmulholland7597 5 лет назад
Don’t worry Brother homeowner , the last few your Contractor has done he’s had to rip Up To the studs and redo Out Of his own Pocket...soo if he fucks up your hell Rip it out and redo your For free
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe 5 лет назад
Shulter kerdi = over priced foam and plastic
@loganharrington6017
@loganharrington6017 5 лет назад
Go ahead and make your own kerdi board. Start with exterior foam insulation. The paint it with 2 coats of Redguard. 4X8 1/2" foam board at HD = $14 Redguard = $47 for a full shower Compared to 1/2" kerdi = $99/sheet
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe 5 лет назад
@@loganharrington6017 so you're going to adhere your tile to foam board?
@loganharrington6017
@loganharrington6017 5 лет назад
@@Stevesbe no, which is also why I never imagined using kerdi board lol. Was actually meant more as a joke of how you can make your own kerdi board, which is another reason to NOT use kerdi board. Us less of course, you have a wife that can't make up her mind and wanta a different shower every 2 years, the use the cheaper version for simple demo ;) lol
@loganharrington6017
@loganharrington6017 5 лет назад
@@Stevesbe this also coming from the guy that knows he could throw the vinyl wallpaper up over the existing tile and his wife would never know the difference. LOL
@everythingismediocre
@everythingismediocre 5 лет назад
Steve are you a shower guy? I'd like to see your work
@danksolution1693
@danksolution1693 3 года назад
I do everything myself. If someone else can do it then so can I. Saves a ton of money.
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder 5 лет назад
I just don't understand why people like to use soft stone in wet areas, when there are so many more durable options
@SigmaDG
@SigmaDG 5 лет назад
Yep. Porcelain for mine. Large format at that.
@dcl97
@dcl97 5 лет назад
Because it looks pretty and it's in all the designer magazines. I keep a bunch of pictures on my phone of what marble showers look like after 5 or 10 years, and usually it's enough to dissuade people.
@erwinwalker1810
@erwinwalker1810 5 лет назад
With laser printing u can get good porcelain that gives the look of stone
@bigpjohnson
@bigpjohnson 5 лет назад
@@SigmaDG I used 24x48 rectified tiles in my bathroom, all had to be cut down to 30-36" wide to fit the layout. I love the lack of grout joints, its about 1 square INCH of grout over 100 sq ft of tile! Oh, and it was a DIY job after firing the incompetent "experienced" tiler I had hired.
@juancarloscorea8262
@juancarloscorea8262 5 лет назад
Nobody: Steve: *HEAVY BREATHING*
@ElimExperience
@ElimExperience 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@chrisjusta3655
@chrisjusta3655 5 лет назад
Blah blah what a moron...... Chris is a bird and this guy is even more of a bird... birds of a feather flock together
@caidhg
@caidhg 5 лет назад
That's definitely not how Kerdi board is supposed to be used. Kurdi curb is whats supposed to be used
@AKcap530
@AKcap530 2 года назад
Big shout out brother, you've got me through so many jobs with excellent results...self taught and refined by you. Appreciate all the time and energy spent over the past few years. Thank god for RU-vid University...best money i've every not spent!
@gus732
@gus732 4 года назад
I been doing a ton of showers and bathroom never used that product before Cement liner cement waterproof Tile 0 call back in 10y
@Rick-the-Swift
@Rick-the-Swift 3 года назад
@fartpoobox ohyeah well said. I learned a lot of what not to do by watching the so-called "pros", and kerdi board is one of them I avoid. As you said, the standing water can only go as high as the curb. Anyone who concedes to water inevitably getting behind their tiles and/or pan shouldn't be tackling the project to begin with.
@WilliamSymionow
@WilliamSymionow 3 года назад
@fartpoobox ohyeah Kerdi isn't just 'waterproofing' it's also a vapor barrier. Just because you have done it for 30 years doesn't mean you've done it right for 30 years. And judging by your statements above, sounds like you've done it wrong for 30 years. Standing water is not the only thing that needs waterproofing. Water vapor is just as damaging. Kerdi and other waterproofing behind tile has other benefits to maintenance.
@jherm9300
@jherm9300 4 года назад
You step over the curb not on it. He was totally trying to save it after he peeled the membrane back....
@T12i99iN
@T12i99iN 5 лет назад
Isaac, are you going to record the whole process of fixing this shower and the end result? As for the owner, good for him on trying and knowing when to call an expert.
@harrod19
@harrod19 5 лет назад
I was also impressed with the owner
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y1V7Dzj0Y4k.html
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 3 года назад
For the follow up video on the repair: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y1V7Dzj0Y4k.html
@raJlabaJloM
@raJlabaJloM 5 лет назад
What i find weird in all of this, is that Americans love these type of showers, but their houses are built out of wood. And the floor is made out of wood. Now when stuff leaks and doesnt dry up its bad news for your house. But on top of that is, for example the curve, is made out of wood too. Why are there no solid plastic curbs out there, that could be simply cut with a saw. We have so much plastic, but in construction, theres only foam or wood. So wtf?
@LDSKIPPER1911
@LDSKIPPER1911 5 лет назад
raJlabaJloM they sell plastic curbs at Home Depot. You cut them and fill with mortar
@dpgt3478
@dpgt3478 5 лет назад
raJlabaJloM you sir need to apply that idea!!
@bluebke
@bluebke 5 лет назад
PVC Shower curb?
@raJlabaJloM
@raJlabaJloM 5 лет назад
@@bluebke Nah i mean more like a hard plastic, thats really strong. I have worked with such a thing but it was in large format sheets like drywall. Was really durable. You could hit it with a hammer and it barely scratched the thing.
@everythingismediocre
@everythingismediocre 5 лет назад
So many problems in American construction. Where do I start?
@magnuseidesandstad7251
@magnuseidesandstad7251 5 лет назад
Get a lav-mic, dude. That camera man is breathing right into the mic. :D
@elimonks
@elimonks 5 лет назад
Thought it was Darth Vader
@N8TheSnake
@N8TheSnake 3 года назад
The quantity of contractors out there that are also educators is too damn small. Thanks for this video!
@CGphotoOp
@CGphotoOp 5 лет назад
Best curb on the market: KBRS Hard Curb. Don’t understand how other brands can get away with simply selling a block of foam as a curb for so much especially since you can’t drill into it and expect a solid grab.
@krehbein
@krehbein 5 лет назад
I used the Kbrs curd and totally agree.
@ttnnaples8060
@ttnnaples8060 2 года назад
I gutted my master bath to the metal studs and concrete slab (like we have in far South Fl) and rebuilt it. Tile shower and all. 'Floating' Inovis bench, arched niche. Direct drain. Troweled on water proofing over .5" duroc, niche, bench shampoo shelf. And not the red, paint on stuff! I lived there for 4 more years and I know it was done correctly. By me. With a lot of online reading. So 124 lb lady can do lots of things, if they want to. The only outside physical help I had was installing shower rated fan/light. And I was the one who rearranged the duct to outside in ceiling when he said it could not be done. And there was much more to bath redo than shower. It was the selling point of a all around beautiful condo. And needed no Realtor.
@TheMariosun
@TheMariosun 5 лет назад
Darth Vader over here needs some claritin or stairmaster to get that cheeto breath out of my ear canals. Great video non the less.
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 4 года назад
Everything looks good on the diy channels until years later. Plus it seems like there are some inherent material issues too.
@jbitile8241
@jbitile8241 4 года назад
Dulrock and hydroban together great. Im a tile installer and use this method alot works good never leaks or any problems
@Spahi77
@Spahi77 4 года назад
Build you a shower using PVC pan liner, durock, cement, and waterproofing membrane....will last forever
@johnsmith-wc8gs
@johnsmith-wc8gs 4 года назад
I concur. It's tried, tested and true and a helluva lot cheaper.
@mikez4132
@mikez4132 5 лет назад
What needs to be remembered here is that the homeowner unfortunately made a lot of mistakes. It doesn’t matter what product or system. If you install it wrong; it is wrong and will fail. Everyone loves to bash products and hates technology or a new way of doing something. It is like saying it’s crazy to have air conditioning when it’s perfectly fine to put a fan in front of a bucket of ice or who needs shingles we have straw thatch roofs....
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 3 года назад
The person who dared to actually try this can absolutely do it, he just underestimated the importance of wall flatness. All newcomers make one mistake or another. I'm sure his next tile job will be a success. The problem with watching videos is that the teacher just can't remember all details, so he fails to mention some. One has to watch a lot of videos to get all the details.
@RobertoGonzalez-cf7dc
@RobertoGonzalez-cf7dc 3 года назад
No tienes estos videos en español o con sustítulos en español , los necesitamos ,😩🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@AquafixWSP
@AquafixWSP 3 года назад
“You said you can’t put kerdi on 2x4 it has to be on dry wall or cement board”.. do you mean you cannot put it in surfaces that will be stepped on?
@mr.wizeguy8995
@mr.wizeguy8995 5 лет назад
9:40 Even you can push Kerdi with your fingers it doesn't mean it's weak because point pressure can be huge but when there is tile over it pressure will distribute much larger area. Example EPS under concrete slab you can make huge dents to it by finger but still it bear car above. Don't you have quick set concrete that you can pour curb no need to mess with wood and some boards.
@johnsmith-wc8gs
@johnsmith-wc8gs 4 года назад
The 2×4 acts as a straight edge to follow. Doing a concrete curb would still require 2×4s as a form. In fact it would require more of them and then you would throw them away. It's much better to use the wood. A single 2×4 on edge is the best
@HamiltonTileGA
@HamiltonTileGA 5 лет назад
great opportunity to make things right. yeah, the layers will kill you. I see that supply houses not selling the entirety of the parts you need to build a Kerdi shower hurts a homeowner. I feel like this guy may have ran into that.
@NewWarOrder
@NewWarOrder 4 года назад
I def don't like my job and would love to get into the business. I currently do my own stuff at home and find it very enjoyable but don't feel like I have the knowledge to start my own business with the knowledge I have.
@katzfam1089
@katzfam1089 5 лет назад
This is why I stick with durock cement board.
@FlatOutFE
@FlatOutFE 5 лет назад
Never fails? Our company has fixed many durarock showers that had leaking and rot issues.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 5 лет назад
@@FlatOutFE That's b/c the idiots didn't waterproof and grout correctly.
@FlatOutFE
@FlatOutFE 5 лет назад
@@TheGuruStud , grout has absolutely nothing to do with it. Grout isn't waterproof. If you waterproof correctly you don't need Durock.
@boryanapetrova1341
@boryanapetrova1341 3 года назад
@@FlatOutFE Grout is not waterproofed only in US. I have never in my life saw grout that absorbs water.
@FlatOutFE
@FlatOutFE 3 года назад
@@boryanapetrova1341, the modified cement based grouts from TEC, Mapei, Laticrete should not be thought of as waterproof. Secondly, none of the caulk joints should be thought of as waterproof. Caulk and grout joints in corners crack.
@sc0368
@sc0368 4 года назад
At least the owner was honest about it instead of blaming " Bad contractor job"
@sable2303
@sable2303 4 года назад
lolol
@tripletvn
@tripletvn 3 года назад
I am not even looking into bathroom remodeling right now but I like your communication and humility so much that I gotta watch a few videos hoping I will learn a bit!
@ColinOYoung
@ColinOYoung 5 лет назад
Love the videos. Though I need to google the building terms as I watch! Curdy board? Kurdy board? Ah, Kerdi boardI! ’m an Irishman living in France so I don’t know if I’m coming or going! Keep up the good work.
@SuperDave-vj9en
@SuperDave-vj9en 4 года назад
I'm not a tile installer, I'm a plumbing contractor. Let me tell you, I have seen everything. A lot of crappy jobs that come back to bite the homeowner later on!
@carlamarlene2927
@carlamarlene2927 4 года назад
where are you? my sons and i need your help!!! nothing so fancy as tile but we are going for it and it has to be better than before
@Laura-wq9kw
@Laura-wq9kw 4 года назад
How do we get a hold of this guy?
@rich2083
@rich2083 4 года назад
Tile is fancy?
@streetfiremkv12
@streetfiremkv12 5 лет назад
Good video. But no one is going to comment on the camera guys mouth breathing?
@chrisrobles2012
@chrisrobles2012 4 года назад
streetfiremkv12 , just started hearing it at 10:00 and then read your comment.
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield 5 лет назад
Interesting watching how you colonials over the pond carry out plumbing and tiling. Our shower bases are usually preformed with enclosures being glass screen and doors. The only time we put a waste/drain directly into the floor is in wet room a installations. There's no need to build a kerb where the floor is fully tiled. For walls, or where a shower valves/ shower heads are located above a bath, I always rip out the dry wall and fit 12mm cement board. Sometimes I even put in additional timber studs and "noggings" (x-bracing) to eliminate any further potential for flex. I do not like the membrane waterproofing method at all. I always insist on using cement board, taping the internal corners and board abutments, maintaining a 2mm gap between the boards and gumming over with 2-3 layers of gum.
@andrewspence5642
@andrewspence5642 5 лет назад
Gum?
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield 5 лет назад
@Andrew Spence Sorry. By "gum" I mean a liquid membrane that upon drying, forms a waterproofed layer over the substrate. I prefer a cement based panel (cement board) but it does work well over pre-existing plastered walls.
@candyloverstwix912
@candyloverstwix912 3 года назад
He can lay tiles on me anyday
@dcl97
@dcl97 5 лет назад
I have to say that is one ambitious first tile project.
@haroon420
@haroon420 4 года назад
🙈🙈🙈🙈 I’m planning on starting my own project which is bigger than his. Let’s see how much of a dogs breakfast I make of it 😬
@closequarters4575
@closequarters4575 4 года назад
RU-vid is the liquid courage of home improvement :)
@giterdun1864
@giterdun1864 4 года назад
I keep seeing issues with this foam board stuff. I havdnt put it in yet. Ive never received a call back on my jobs using durock over tar paper or plastic sheet on studs and or aqua defense over board. Old school pans over pvc Pasco liner and a 3 piece weep drain. Why reinvent the wheel?
@Archangel0804
@Archangel0804 4 года назад
You probably use a fan and a bucket of ice to cool your house in the summertime too, don't you? Almost every shower fail filmed on RU-vid is one which was constructed the way you suggest...mortar pan, crappy drain system, and one brand or another of cementious board and some sort of inadequate waterproofing.
@alexsystems2001
@alexsystems2001 3 года назад
I don’t think anyone is going to reply but I have a tract home and the wall for my shower is out of plumb by like 1” I needed to re-do the shower so I rebuilt the wall (it was just a partition wall and I wanted a little more space to a cast iron shower base) I got it within 1/4” is it really that big of a deal to have it perfectly plumb? I thought I was doing good at 1/4” (better than the home builder)
@avisitorhere
@avisitorhere 5 лет назад
You might discuss the option of pulling the Kerdi board off the walls and sistering studs onto the existing ones to get a straight wall. Metal studs tend to run pretty straight or just run some boards thru a table saw.
@benvanvliet4511
@benvanvliet4511 4 года назад
Always start with the positive! I am really enjoying taking on tiling as another trade to help my custumers(fans). I've been doing interiors for 10 years but always subbed it out. I've learned ALOT about prepping and now really enjoy tile as I'm very OCD and flat walls and floor means you can be, who would know? Thanks for the videos!
@drewmanning1025
@drewmanning1025 2 года назад
Kerdi sucks. It's soft and bends. I like Goboard. High compressive strength, lightweight, Waterproof, easy install.
@philipjohnson2608
@philipjohnson2608 4 года назад
Great video brother may you have continued succes always bro
@Thomas-ze3mp
@Thomas-ze3mp День назад
use dense shield, and a kerdi pan, as per your videos they will cover warranty anyway, forget about all this sheet membrane with 10,000 kerdi basnds, . we mesh tape and set the seams in moartar, nehind silicone, and solicone all screw heads, kerdiband around where the denseshield meets the pan, AFTER setting the denseshield, in a large bead of silicone on top of the kerdi
@americanindeon
@americanindeon 4 года назад
Your message at the end, is speaking directly to me today. I really needed to hear that more than you know. I'm a DIY'er and I enjoy it more than punching this @#$%^&! clock and dealing with the BS. Trade school now, will be a pain for me for the money reason, but I got to do something cause I'm a point where I can't stand this anymore. Thank you!
@TheBashar327
@TheBashar327 4 года назад
Be aware you will be trading one BS for other BS's. Trades are nice and fun until you get an injury or sick and your joints start wearing out. It's nice doing work you love, but I think most people lose site of what's really important, and that's making a life *outside* of work.
@kellyross4801
@kellyross4801 2 года назад
Yes, folks always want to assume that what they are dealing with is level, square, and plumb. Nope. In the immortal words of Meatloaf, "Don't be sad -- 'cause two outta three ain't bad." 😉 Check and fix that first, then leave the frying pan for the fire.
@CedarSproutHomestead
@CedarSproutHomestead 2 года назад
Screw all that schluter shit. Use old school preslope, pvc liner , durirock , slope , water proof sealer , tile up from second course minus a half inch , tile floor , and finally tile in your bottom course . Don’t put plastic behind durirock if using waterproofing, or risk mold sandwich if moisture got in . So 4-6 mil plastic behind the durirock or waterproofing 2 coats and 3 on pan area (best way) .
@johngatsby1473
@johngatsby1473 Год назад
The real problem is the fact that so many of the trades overcharge this forcing homeowners to go out on a limb and make a go at it. I was quoted $40,000 to remodel my kitchen......I did it all over a year and a half and it turned out fantastic. There's just no way I would pay that much to some clown ass contractor knowing he's paying his help 25 an hour. What really got me was I would offer people 25 to 35 and hour to do work and they would try and act like a contractor and demand the contractor pricing! And we're talking illegals doing that shit.
@cailou32
@cailou32 Год назад
Why does everyone rave about kerdi? Pain in the ass to install, extra build up at corners, styrofoam curbs and walls, expensive as hell. Buy a $130 jug of red guard and avoid the hassle. Tile coach makes great videos on guys screwing up kerdi.
@rubent6382
@rubent6382 2 года назад
First time viewer, Bro i love your vibe. Its very apparent you know your trade, and yet, you, don't subscribe to the pompous, knucklehead attitude that you meet in the home improvement(out of control) industry.80% of contractors i meet belittle their clients or employees on a regular basis without reservation. in my opinion, for a young dude ,you got it figured out. its about integrity , respect and a work ethic. keep doing what you do. a flipper in Cali side note: kerdi "blows" over priced. rather build without it
@sk8rdood23
@sk8rdood23 Год назад
Ok so I'm a Warehouse Worker, But an automotive technician by trade. I wasn't happy with the trade so much because cars are a hobby and I can already see I would get tired of doing the same basic repairs all day every day. I am a musician and I always have too many hobbies. But I love to be creative, the tile trade looks fun to me! I used to co-own a pool service business when I was younger, I am 31 years old. And whenever we got to re-tile the top edge of a pool, it was always good fun for me! Im interested in doing something different with my life.
@Max-nh3gp
@Max-nh3gp 6 дней назад
The walls weren't flat and the curb wasn't hard enough, but when tile was all over everything it wouldn't be all that noticeable unless you were looking for it. Honestly this shower would probably have worked fine for a long time, I have seen worse work from people who do this for a living. Thats why I do all my own work now. If its going to be messed up it can at least be cheap.
@yoanfb623
@yoanfb623 5 лет назад
hey isaac just a question you said your installing densshield on the curb and i know the specifications for densshield say to not use it on curbs i was wondering why.(im in the trade myself, so i just want to know if you know why it wouldn't be a good idea to use it on a curb). thanks
@yoanfb623
@yoanfb623 5 лет назад
Isaac Ostrom so i guess it would be ok even if it was not a sealed system as long as its not in contact with the mud am i correct?
@krehbein
@krehbein 5 лет назад
Yoan Fb6 No, how are you going to protect the edges from moisture?
@yoanfb623
@yoanfb623 5 лет назад
Kevr water proofing? They do tell you to water proof 2” above the curb
@krehbein
@krehbein 5 лет назад
Yoan Fb6 you said “not a sealed system”, so I assume you meant without something like Kerdi.
@yoanfb623
@yoanfb623 5 лет назад
Kevr well ya theres different kinds of water proofing like roll on membranes which your supposed to do even if your doing a liner pan i personally dont water proof the mud since its meant for water to go down there..
@henrypena4280
@henrypena4280 4 года назад
This guy just ruined a premade kerdi board
@MrDrb8354
@MrDrb8354 3 года назад
They really need to just cancel the whole shluter kurdi bullshit system and do it the way we been doing it for a 1000 years. Also homeowners need to stop putting porous stone in wet areas l, especially in a tract home🤦‍♂️🤣
@everythingismediocre
@everythingismediocre 5 лет назад
I like to make my curbs from mud and go straight over it with Kerdi membrane
@demolay8
@demolay8 Год назад
I got the 1/4" backer board for my bath walls on accident. The person at the store told me it didn't matter... Would it be okay to use 1/4 backer board on top of a 1/4 inch plywood?
@doughagemann2677
@doughagemann2677 3 года назад
coach you saved my bacon on the curb and using 1/2" kerdi board. I just did the same thing and was fixing to start tiling, after seeing this video I took the top 1/2 kerdi off the crab and replacing it with hard board. this will give me a no flex point for the marble top.
@courtneyduran332
@courtneyduran332 3 года назад
I'm about to do something similar. What are the layer to use from the bottom up?
@the-bu3lb
@the-bu3lb 2 года назад
You skip to much on. 98% of your videos do a actual 10 part video of making this from start to finish take a bare ground with no concrete bottom floor and let us watch and go alone. You do great work but you fast forward all over and time lapse like crazy. Teach us like we are 5yrs old
@justinwilliams9228
@justinwilliams9228 2 года назад
He is always trying to find the positive in these crap jobs , it’s great. It’s because of ch like this that keep professional trades men in business. It’s insulting when people thinks they can do construction because they watched a RU-vid clip or dyi show.
@dare2scheme904
@dare2scheme904 2 года назад
I'm new to tiling, but when I heard about foam board, I said hell no. People we're even trying to convince me to ditch cement board in favor of foam board. I'm going to pay more money for foam board than for cement board? The concept is simply an offense to my sense of logic and rational thought. If someone now wants to reply and convince me otherwise, don't waste your time
@tonyg5692
@tonyg5692 Год назад
Love your videos this was an eye opener for showers thanks for the info also check out "Stud Pack" great videos on Schluter and Kerdi. Keep the info coming
@ryanhenderson8407
@ryanhenderson8407 2 года назад
Will it still become a "THIS SHOWER FAILED" video in the Future....
@mikerubio2602
@mikerubio2602 Год назад
where are you based out of? I'm in Orange County, CA and need our master shower redone. Any companies you recommend around me? Thx. and Love your videos.
@Titantitan001
@Titantitan001 3 года назад
Oh the amount of things I’ve had to demo for homeowners that tried doing this type of stuff. Cheers for him trying with the schluter systems and even floating.
@jayburris6252
@jayburris6252 3 года назад
I just make sure the studs are plumb and flat before kerdi. This the kerdi is plumb and flat. Easy peasy. Simple and done.
@DK_tk3
@DK_tk3 Год назад
I bet the curb is kerdi. I personally am not A fan of kerdi on any horizontal surface. And the pans flex like that also. Seems like A bad idea.
@sethhanson760
@sethhanson760 4 года назад
Who steps on a shower curb?
@Chequr_Prostate
@Chequr_Prostate 3 года назад
Kids
@BobbyJamesCote333
@BobbyJamesCote333 2 года назад
Said Knowledge is Absolutely Useless if it sounds Condescending to the ear in which you May seek to teach...
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse Год назад
I'm using green board with wet shimming with heavy duty construction adhesive.
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