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The iconic bassist talks about the shocking suicide of Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis and that tragedy's aftermath.
Peter Hook's full interview: yhoo.it/2p2PJUu

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@seanoriordan77
@seanoriordan77 6 лет назад
I think it's sad the animosity between Hooky and Barney now. I don't know if they realise the impact they had on people's lives. Even after Ian died, they become something greater. Legends. Ian Curtis. Stephen Morris. Bernard Sumner. Peter Hook. I salute you.
@chrissie9865
@chrissie9865 5 лет назад
seanoriordan77 Don't forget Gillian Gilbert
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor 3 года назад
All relationships have their own shelf life, just like all things do.
@neilaspin008
@neilaspin008 24 дня назад
The relationship was fraught right at the very beginning
@peternagy-im4be
@peternagy-im4be 7 дней назад
Little more than an empty head ​@@chrissie9865
@alexgasson4279
@alexgasson4279 6 лет назад
Amazing how young they were to make such an album..
@thewhoman3182
@thewhoman3182 4 года назад
Just like the sex pistols. I have no idea how the punk/new wave artists did it
@niallsutherland8224
@niallsutherland8224 3 года назад
Yep, that blows my mind constantly
@vordman
@vordman 4 года назад
Fascinating interview. Peter Hook tells it how it is, no attempt to mythologise the past like some would.
@vaseofflowers4619
@vaseofflowers4619 10 месяцев назад
I like Hooky. I liked hearing how his mates from Salford were a bunch of ruffians.
@RossBayCult
@RossBayCult 5 лет назад
I met Hooky at a book signing and he’s the real deal. Very grounded, humble and so engaging. My favorite member of both JD & NO. One of the most influential bassists ever.
@katm6
@katm6 6 лет назад
Seeing/hearing Hooky sing Closer two years ago was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. And it was topped off by me getting to meet Hooky after the show. He's a lovely man.
@bonla2275
@bonla2275 5 лет назад
katm6 I get to see him in a few days on the 24th. Buzzing would be an understatement
@conallhomer6962
@conallhomer6962 3 года назад
Hooky is a legend. Are saw Peter Hook and the light play. It wasn’t as good as I thought it was gonna be unfortunately, because they didn’t do enough Joy Division songs, they mostly did New Order but I’m still very grateful to have seen what’s left of one of the greatest bands ever, in the flesh.
@chavedappelle
@chavedappelle 4 года назад
"You're honorbound to grieve for people that are important in your life" That's a really good quote.
@P8290970
@P8290970 2 года назад
Brilliant isn't it ? and so true.
@YG-qg1hs
@YG-qg1hs 5 лет назад
I can't think of a more beautiful song than 'Heart and Soul'. An absolute masterclass of an album as a whole.
@notreyf
@notreyf 4 года назад
Peter Hook, intelligent, articulate and searingly honest.
@tlkshowhst
@tlkshowhst 7 лет назад
So much wisdom here. I had to stop listening to closer. Beautiful album, but far too dark for my health.
@xarve9486
@xarve9486 6 лет назад
hang in there buddy! (no pun intended lol!)
@Vegeta87952
@Vegeta87952 5 лет назад
I feel the same. I'm only able to listen to Joy Division anymore in small increments. I love the band, but it's taken me to some very dark places.
@scott7521
@scott7521 4 года назад
Totally with you. It's too much for me as well. I can only listen to a few songs off that record.
@daveyhando9536
@daveyhando9536 4 года назад
xarve weird
@yogiaguiar1548
@yogiaguiar1548 4 года назад
honestly couldnt agree more
@frangarcia7774
@frangarcia7774 3 года назад
Peter is not only one of the most distinctive bass players of all time but also a pleasure to listen to. His analysis are always clear, well structured and meaningful. Hats off
@vincentwitters7408
@vincentwitters7408 7 лет назад
Still one of my favorite albums ever. The song 'Isolation' sounds like a suicide note from Ian Curtis.
@Pazuzu82
@Pazuzu82 7 лет назад
Vincent Witters More like 24 hours a would say.
@charleydowd3126
@charleydowd3126 7 лет назад
Vincent Witters "Isolation" is my favorite Joy Division song. Love the baseline, the drums, and the meaning.
@vincentwitters7408
@vincentwitters7408 7 лет назад
Me too, the lyrics are the most powerfull i have ever heard.
@lancashirebomber9744
@lancashirebomber9744 7 лет назад
focus on the purity of the sound.
@extra.nirvana
@extra.nirvana 6 лет назад
24 hours is so sad best song by them
@Studmasterify
@Studmasterify 7 лет назад
A very eloquent man!
@emmaduncan2991
@emmaduncan2991 6 лет назад
the most underrated bass player in history, he really was Joy Division's MVP!
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 5 лет назад
_"the most underrated bass player in history"_ ... ??? Underrated? The Most? No offense but, you're kidding... right?
@papslap6495
@papslap6495 4 года назад
I dont think he is underrated Emma. Quite the opposite he is a musicians ' musician if that makes sense Take care Ant P
@briantyson7744
@briantyson7744 4 года назад
@@papslap6495 That is a really nice way to express yourself. Cheers.
@papslap6495
@papslap6495 4 года назад
@@briantyson7744 Thanks
@papslap6495
@papslap6495 4 года назад
.m.
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit 6 лет назад
Can you imagine Power Corruption and Lies with Ian's lyrics and vocals! Blows the mind just thinking about it.
@lukebalika9967
@lukebalika9967 4 года назад
househansa No, in my opinion, Bernard’s voice is better for that one, but Ian’s voice might have worked better on Low Life and definitely would’ve worked great on Movement
@iamsheep
@iamsheep 6 лет назад
It was really interesting to hear that they wouldn't have changed musically if Ian hadn't died.
@iancurtisspectre3744
@iancurtisspectre3744 6 лет назад
I can't help but cry when Hooky talked about if Ian had lived, I can't imagine the splendiferousness of that
@Greggorious123
@Greggorious123 4 года назад
I think they would have become electronic still but I don’t think you’d of had cheesy songs like Thieves like us or shell shock if Ian had lived.
@michaelenglish1992
@michaelenglish1992 4 года назад
@@Greggorious123 Thieves is the OPPOSITE of cheesey.
@Greggorious123
@Greggorious123 4 года назад
@@michaelenglish1992 That's your opinion and that's cool. To me it sounds cheesy, and Ian Curtis would never write something like 'Love is found in the east and the west, but when love is at home it's the best' which in my mind is cheesy as hell.
@SomeRandomHobo44
@SomeRandomHobo44 3 года назад
@@Greggorious123 the only song I've listened to by New order is true faith so I've got zero context reading this thread of comments, but not gonna lie, that line does sound cheesy...
@canderson1522
@canderson1522 6 лет назад
I would love to hear him talk about their entire history...Warsaw to New Order..and everything in between.
@thatfezguy8330
@thatfezguy8330 6 лет назад
C Anderson I recommend his book for that honestly. He wrote a book about their entire history from his perspective, Warsaw to Ian’s death. Funny, intriguing and most importantly honest
@alexpilgrim8248
@alexpilgrim8248 6 лет назад
Just picked it up earlier today on CD. Though darker than "Unknown Pleasures", it's also more refined. Great album.
@vandolmatzis8146
@vandolmatzis8146 6 лет назад
hooky, an eloquent gentleman Thank you
@thecitizenjoan
@thecitizenjoan 6 лет назад
The blokes a living legend
@eliasiv
@eliasiv 5 лет назад
decades is the best song ever written
@mislavivkovic9996
@mislavivkovic9996 3 года назад
Atmosfere
@mislavivkovic9996
@mislavivkovic9996 3 года назад
This closer is realy dark i like Uknown pleasures more
@oggabob
@oggabob 2 года назад
That Canada riots guy is a prick
@plev10
@plev10 7 лет назад
Beautiful interview. Love ya, Hooky!
@barrygreenstein8383
@barrygreenstein8383 4 года назад
This made me quite sad because I am a Joy Division and New Order fan. I knew about Ian Curtis and his struggle with epilepsy but to hear Peter talk about it so frankly was quite enlightening!
@sosidecop64
@sosidecop64 4 года назад
Ian Curtis: Too young, too soon. RIP. His music lives on.
@FrankieUtka
@FrankieUtka 3 года назад
40 years of Closer!!!! The album is literally somebody's whole SOUL just WEEPING & POURING OUT. One of the most beautiful pieces of music in modern history. They really had a once in a lifetime dream team- TWICE!!! Legendary, everyone! Rest easy, Ian. I hope you realize HOW MANY PEOPLE hold onto hope now BECAUSE of the music you helped create✨
@thecitizenjoan
@thecitizenjoan 6 лет назад
Peter Hook saying there’s loads of groups is funny There’ll never be another band like Joy Division.
@The_Angry_BeEconomist
@The_Angry_BeEconomist 6 лет назад
J. Montrice interpol's first album came... close
@The_Angry_BeEconomist
@The_Angry_BeEconomist 6 лет назад
Raven are you having a laugh?
@zookeeper2872
@zookeeper2872 5 лет назад
Interpol 😆 but certainly, they are not Joy Division
@zookeeper2872
@zookeeper2872 5 лет назад
@@Pazuzu82 fuck u2! Haha joking, cheers
@zookeeper2872
@zookeeper2872 5 лет назад
@@Pazuzu82 Yeah they aren't bad. It's just those damn glasses he wears! But I had a few of their albums in the early 90s thanks to Columbia House. Somebody always at least had a U2 cassette somewhere before that. All I Want is You is my favorite song. I just didn't get into them anymore after Zooropa. I had to look it up because I didn't even remember the title of that album. I have to go back and listen to that when I get a chance because what I remember sounds good in my head right now
@Skott1966
@Skott1966 Год назад
Love Peter Hooks's honesty about it all. The end of the interview really says it all.
@AlmaSoul305
@AlmaSoul305 5 лет назад
There will never be another joy division, never
@spkelse8677
@spkelse8677 5 лет назад
Such a beautiful album. I love every song. I listen to it when I'm sad, and it lifts me up, somehow. I listen to it when I'm happy, and it fills me up. It's one of those records I will never grow tired of. I just hate that Ian suffered so, and his loved ones suffered after his suicide. Pain drives creativity, but it can also make life unbearable. I'm grateful for what Ian gave us through his music and expression.
@mike196212
@mike196212 7 лет назад
His book on JD is great: honest,candid,poignant and even funny. It's fairly recent. Another interesting read on JD and early NO is called AN IDEAL FOR LIVING. I bought it back in 1985.
@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 7 лет назад
Mike Poitras I liked it too. Hooky's the kind of guy I'd like to sit down for a pint with.
@mike196212
@mike196212 7 лет назад
Snuggles: I agree. There isn't the slightest bit of guile in him. I think he admitted to losing as many fights as he won while taking on unruly crowds threatening the band. Nice chap.
@katm6
@katm6 6 лет назад
An Ideal for Living was my first Joy Division book.
@nelsonorange71
@nelsonorange71 5 лет назад
Mike Poitras who wrote An Ideal for Living
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 7 лет назад
Closer was massively influential album during early 80s. Hundreds of bands copied its ideas, secretly off course.
@xfilesfoxisdead7979
@xfilesfoxisdead7979 6 лет назад
margus kiis still is influential. Just listen to Interpol or editors
@pixeldirt5610
@pixeldirt5610 6 лет назад
Even in the 2010s bands are still guilty of copying ideas from Closer...listen to 'Flying to Berlin' by Savages then listen to 'Colony' ;)
@zackzallie8735
@zackzallie8735 Год назад
From The Cure, to Interpol, to even The 1975, to Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, Swans, Moby, Danny Brown, etc. (yikes lots and lots and lots)
@nealspence2946
@nealspence2946 6 лет назад
very very well said. RIP Ian
@keesvanharen9791
@keesvanharen9791 День назад
Beautiful spoken, straight from the heart ❤️
@giovanniscardetta333
@giovanniscardetta333 Год назад
Voice of honesty and balance. Upstanding and straight shooter guy.. The four of them together have been something unique an magic
@OldMod67
@OldMod67 2 года назад
Decades, what a beautiful song.
@johntrickey4188
@johntrickey4188 4 года назад
I love you Peter, your honesty is beautiful .
@jeliceinchains
@jeliceinchains 5 лет назад
So honest, wise and eloquent guy..
@BigH0b0
@BigH0b0 5 лет назад
Beautiful interview. A classic example of the wisdom age and experience bring. Closer is just about the only soulful pop record I have ever heard, in fact, deeper than your soul...
@mcblahflooper94
@mcblahflooper94 7 лет назад
I'm actually really glad Peter Hook "wanted" to be the Sex Pistols. It really adds soooo much to Joy Division.
@MrLepatrouilleur
@MrLepatrouilleur 5 лет назад
Brillant comments, great watch, great clothes, great boots, sensitive humor... Such an elegant lad.
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 7 лет назад
Joy Division played "Closer" songs in their live shows 1979 -- 80.
@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371
@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 5 лет назад
He means once it was released. Curtis died before it came out.
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 3 года назад
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 it's still an odd comment from Hooky, indeed Colony and Atrocity were played from around the time UP came out mid 79. Or maybe they were planning on performing the LP as a set in the US, with some older songs as encores
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 3 года назад
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 most of Closer songs were played by JD live.
@zackzallie8735
@zackzallie8735 3 года назад
@@marguskiis7711 You said it once, why said it again?
@christophernickel6698
@christophernickel6698 Год назад
That is the most mature and enlightened way to look at the whole situation.
@ashquinn9508
@ashquinn9508 6 лет назад
Peter Hook is such a lovely and articulate man.
@stephenloflin4772
@stephenloflin4772 3 года назад
It's great that Peter can document these years.
@shanetreacy5996
@shanetreacy5996 3 года назад
I met New Order in a pub on Dorset Street in Dublin just before their gig.Great bunch of lads and they told me the riff for Love will tear us apart came about when Ian heard his father playing it on a church organ!!!
@mikeroberts510
@mikeroberts510 4 года назад
Wonderful beautiful album.
@laurenpaterson3475
@laurenpaterson3475 5 лет назад
He sounds great guy he had too much for one young man to deal woth
@wanneske1969
@wanneske1969 6 лет назад
Great interview. Peter Hook seems like a nice guy, I always thought he was a prick, cashing in with JD and NO "covers", but he wrote the songs, and Barney the nice guy, but it seems I was wrong. JD and NO rule.
@andrewhamilton6342
@andrewhamilton6342 3 года назад
That sofa is severely underrated!
@CubeduBorg
@CubeduBorg 4 года назад
Wow. This was great. Well said. All of it.
@paulmurphy5547
@paulmurphy5547 5 лет назад
Saw Hooky last weekend at The Shine On Weekender at Minehead with his band The Light! Absolutely fantastic! Gave me chills hearing him do Joy Division songs
@checkyourhead37
@checkyourhead37 Год назад
Such brutal candor. Awesome.
@funkmike
@funkmike 7 лет назад
Very English the way they handled Ian 's suicide--pushing it down, as he says, and basically living in denial. Perhaps that was the right thing to do. But I agree with his main point that the band was going to go on and develop in the direction that they did with New Order.
@veerchasm1
@veerchasm1 6 лет назад
Poignant Hook. Thank you
@KraftWerk1980
@KraftWerk1980 5 лет назад
I love Ian Curtis and joy division they were one of the deepest bands...I feel so bad he had a horrible illness the most talented people seem to
@zookeeper2872
@zookeeper2872 5 лет назад
I lost a friend to suicide and I totally get what you're saying at five and a half minutes. There's always that frustration and disappointment in what they decided to do. If only they would have asked. It really sucks at all the things you realized in hindsight
@PW-le6cr
@PW-le6cr 3 года назад
People always talk of Unknown Pleasures but Closer truly is the superior album
@Boric78
@Boric78 2 года назад
What an interview - fascinating and he comes across very well. Somone I would like to have a pint with.
@wetjon
@wetjon 4 года назад
I remember when it came out.. a lot of people I knew wouldn't listen to it, especially alone.. 24 Hrs still gives me chills...
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 4 года назад
Peter Hook is a wonderful soul! His music hs guided my life.
@Sdea1903
@Sdea1903 5 месяцев назад
I would give my right ball to hear Ian Curtis sing Blue Monday.
@stephendallison1465
@stephendallison1465 Год назад
Some of the best music ever as in original and Martin Hannett's engineering was mind blowing at the time and still holds its own today. Had the honour of seeing them 2nd to last gig before Ian's Passover.
@calintentagency5901
@calintentagency5901 3 года назад
Amazing. Mate, give yourself a hug. You are amazing
@GarryShepherdDreamGazePostPunk
@GarryShepherdDreamGazePostPunk 9 месяцев назад
Forever in our hearts Ian💙🎹🔥🥁🎸🔥
@Shatterhaven
@Shatterhaven 5 лет назад
39 years today, rip ian
@larsrunkvist8434
@larsrunkvist8434 4 года назад
You made the greatest music the greatest texts i Am so sorry for ian's passing. Sincerely Lars Runkvist
@caio20118
@caio20118 6 лет назад
now there's a cool guy
@patrikgabrielsson2135
@patrikgabrielsson2135 6 лет назад
Underrated album.
@hennessyorama
@hennessyorama 5 лет назад
Heartbreaking
@TheForlornEidolon777
@TheForlornEidolon777 3 года назад
Forever legends.
@josephsmall4270
@josephsmall4270 Год назад
It is a beautiful album. My favorite song on it was "Decades".
@cynthianovoselsky3511
@cynthianovoselsky3511 4 месяца назад
U helped me in every way ❤2024
@briantyson7744
@briantyson7744 4 года назад
Cheers.
@patrickspage1
@patrickspage1 3 года назад
God bless x
@danielwalker8995
@danielwalker8995 6 лет назад
Legend!
@scottmouse1921
@scottmouse1921 2 года назад
I love that album.
@johnusmany2569
@johnusmany2569 Год назад
JD to me is directly connected to the Eighties when British ( mainly New Wave Bands ) conquered the world and made some of the best music we can still enjoy today because they ( Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Simple Minds, Talk Talk, Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, New Model Army, The Mission etc. etc. ) were amazingly good. At that period JD was my favorite and only afterwards when I got older I realized why...It had a certain emotion 💓 in the Music I could relate to.
@jermyhopkisn9654
@jermyhopkisn9654 5 лет назад
Really frustrates and saddens me to hear him talk about what might have been with Joy Division, that they would have stayed together. Such a shame about Ian.
@macnasty7605
@macnasty7605 6 лет назад
never seen annik pic before..
@dartmouthhoop
@dartmouthhoop 6 лет назад
hot
@KillerBill1953
@KillerBill1953 6 лет назад
No internet or camera phones then. He did try to hide his affair from Debbie at first and the media didn't seem to make much of it as I recall.
@sylvainrichard6679
@sylvainrichard6679 5 лет назад
Jim McGonigle as Steve ( or Barney ? ) use to say : The sophisticated girl !..
@andrewfarrell6120
@andrewfarrell6120 5 лет назад
Power, Corruption, and Lies as a Joy Division Album ... a powerful thought.
@crypttonite
@crypttonite Год назад
he definitely sings it as close to Ian as possible. He was on the same wavelength.
@douchebag2019
@douchebag2019 6 лет назад
What a man
@kaduisaui4596
@kaduisaui4596 2 года назад
I love that couch
@perzonne6302
@perzonne6302 2 года назад
That's some deep shit right there
@SleepMeditationandAffirmations
@SleepMeditationandAffirmations 4 года назад
I can't imagine in 2020 paying to see New Order without Hook.
@FrankieUtka
@FrankieUtka 3 года назад
Gotta go see The Light instead! 😭
@daveyhando9536
@daveyhando9536 4 года назад
I’d love to be lucky enough to have a pint with hook
@simondiamond7070
@simondiamond7070 3 года назад
I did. At the gig he's talking about, Salford Quays. A really great, down to earth guy. The gig was mindblowing. A highlight of my life.
@johngammon963
@johngammon963 11 месяцев назад
There'll never be another Joy Division x
@marcpadilla1094
@marcpadilla1094 2 года назад
Love the Ian dancing with myself dance. Love is a suicidal tendency. Co dependency, the that 'Witch' made you breaks you creative edge that many artists become victims of.
@mikedown1250
@mikedown1250 Год назад
there are loads of bands!...well said
@romanlisyukov6787
@romanlisyukov6787 2 года назад
I really liked Hooky’s take on suicide and it’s beauty
@brerogers4311
@brerogers4311 5 лет назад
Great
@suttonzoe8
@suttonzoe8 5 лет назад
My husband has epilepsy and had a fit tonight first time if seen a seizure and it's so fucking scary I'm not the better of it
@chloedoesshit2659
@chloedoesshit2659 4 года назад
Zoe Omara sorry to hear that :(
@rachelar
@rachelar 4 месяца назад
Saw him play Closer in 2011
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Год назад
The range of treatment options for epilepsy have advanced a lot since the late 1970's. The new medications came too late for poor Ian though.
@theoneandonlykk777
@theoneandonlykk777 4 года назад
Peter Hook is a beautiful man
@masteryeet3600
@masteryeet3600 3 года назад
I imagine all the help that we have today in terms of mental health, if that help was around in the late 70s, early 80s. Ian would’ve lived.
@Alun49
@Alun49 Год назад
Closer remains a towering achievement and an album I struggle to listen to because of its stark, agonising beauty. New Order where very good, but had Joy Division continued? Had Curtis lived? What might they have done?
@danvincent2600
@danvincent2600 Год назад
Hooky and the boys!
@lukeszklarz9674
@lukeszklarz9674 4 года назад
that is a fabulous rug
@jessepancamo8449
@jessepancamo8449 2 года назад
So sad.
@dmarco6911
@dmarco6911 5 лет назад
Subtítulos en español??
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