Bad Religion: Frank Ocean and Homophobia 

thank you so much

II love that!! I’m over here thinking it’s the tarot card 3 of swords ⚔️ because it’s a heart and it has 3 knives stabbing it so I guess that’s the beauty of Frankie’s lyrics

​@@noripapaya😂🤡

this is so kind, thank you

dig deep and the further you go the better the music gets

Same. I'd never heard a Frank Ocean song, and this video inspired me to listen to one. Wow, he's an amazing songwriter!!!

'follow their religion blindly' wowwww

​@ns6428 I mean as an ARMY and a muslim, for me, religion comes before anything. ANYTHING.

@@victoriassecretxoxo yes ..first GOD/RELIGION 2. OUR PROPHETS 3. YOUR BIRTH MOTHER..... we are human and so you should respect our believe, we should your respect your believe

@@eimansfq1860 exactly

⁠@@ns6428Yes our religion is everything for us and our religion came first and they are not being animalistic but everyone has their own opinions

Not really :/ I’m getting arrested for testicular womanslaughter

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That's a cool explanation, but as someone who still wasn't sure if Frank came from a Christian or Islamic Background, I wondered if it was a reference to trinitarianism in Christianity. Jesus - the friend beside him who he's supposed to love and who claims to love him The Spirit - who is supposedly in him but is guiding him toward love that is considered against the rules but who he may think is making him feel "convicted" The Father - the angry God who decided his love was an abomination to begin with Odds are your explanation was closer to what he meant tho😂

Ahhh there’s so much

i'm so happy too!

It is story telling, Frank is not the one saying that, he's paraphrasing the taxi driver who he was talking to. The taxi driver said that probably as a prayer for him. The song is not about any specific religion but rather uses religion as a topic for story telling. His unrequited love is the bad religion.

​@stargazing2628 he mustn't use Allah akbar in songs generally because it's haram

Hello! Muslim here! This is my opinion on the whole "Allahuakbar" thing. To me, for the song at least it's not a big deal because of how it's used, when you hear the song, it's not used for any insult or bad intention. Like Elliot said, it means "Allah is the Greatest", which it said to the perspective of the taxi driver. I also think it's fine if a non Muslim say it, "IF" they have no bad intention with it, (same thing I heard Assalamualaikum is also something I heard non Muslim can't also say but I hear many times from non muslims and most of them mean in good means) that being said, that's not what I got from here. I get why many people are shocked or abit taking a back from "Allahuakbar" because of unfortunate events and people are afraid people using it as an offensive joke (I get it, I'm Muslim, I'm sick of it) but to me at least, the song is pretty much talks about criticizing what people's preaching when it comes to religion. Like how some religions harm people (quite notice as the video suggest, LGBTQ FOLKS). I think is a very great thing to discuss and talk about, especially as all my years as a muslims, I think is very hypocritical for any people who practice their faith be the one in charge to decide or control what people are and can be. The Al Quran does preach muslims should be loyal and humble to Allah, but it also preach to be a good person, regardless who they are. Like who Muhammad forgave his enemies and remind to his muslims brothers and sisters to not force anybody to convert to Islam, Islam is being sincere and being honest to Allah and those he creates. He also said to be nice people around regardless of faith and people because to create a peaceful world. people should be who they are and live and be a decent human being with respect. Hope this explaination isn't too long. I'm pretty passion about this lmao-

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@@yono1335 Frank is not Muslim, and he's not the one saying the phrase, the Muslim taxi driver is.

Me too why did namjoon put this in his story

@lifegoesonsneakers1102 right me too this video is so long 🙄

@lifegoesonsneakers1102 I don't know.. I'm confused

Me to

​@@omfawy3773Because he likes the song, like millions of other people that enjoys the song as well. Listen to the song, what Frank has to say about the song, and watch the video. The song is not about any specific religion but rather uses "religion" as a topic for story telling. The one Islamic phrase used in the song, Frank is not the one saying that, the taxi driver who is Islamic is saying it and Frank is paraphrasing it. The bad religion in the song is the speaker's unrequited love.

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It's a great song with crazy story telling, it also discusses complicated issues but the song isn't about any specific religion. The "bad religion" is the speaker's unrequited love. Namjoon most probably just liked the song and shared, as he has been doing with every other songs he likes.

I think it all opened us up to critical thinking...it def took me back to my eng lit classes lol

The attacks towards my brothers and sisters are not all okay and the words used weren’t okay- Frank didn’t mean to upset anyone but he did apologize. RM probably thought everyone knew the meaning behind the song and posted it. Not everyone knows the details abt all religions and what’s bad or good- this whole situation is sad + using the words weren’t at all ok, but RM sharing the song doesn’t mean he agrees with the controversial views of those who think bad of Muslims. Idk why attack RM when he isn’t even Muslim at all So of course he wouldn’t know what is offensive and what isn’t

He NEVER really said that lslam is a bad religionne said that he respect all beliefs and religion, it was not his intention to disrespect any religion, HE said in his recent live , some people are misinterpreting his words and spread lies. please have a heart , before hating him , try to know the situation

This song is about 'one sided love'. Being a poet, namjoon pays lot of attention to words. He is especially fond of heavy words with hidden meanings. If you follow the whole story in the song you will see that he calls an unrequited love "Bad Religion". His Bad Religion is loving someone who doesn't love him back which is also a metaphor for loving a god that doesn't love/answers him because he's gay and that's against his religion. So he's basically saying that loving someone who doesn't love him back (his Bad Religion) can't be good if he hurts himself. "Brings me down to my knees" refrerres to the unrequited love hurting him, making him pray so he asks for help to get through his heartbreak but he doesn't get an He calls an unrequited love Bad Religion. A synonym. When he is talking about the Bad Religion he doesn't mean actual Religion, he means unrequited love. It's the same word for him. And this song is about a story he has actually experienced where a Muslim taxic driver said that to him. Since the song came out a decade ago, he has changed the the “Allahu Akbar” lyrics. RM didn't post this song to slam a religion. Also, Frank Ocean never degraded Muslims. please, Muslim ARMYs, don't be incited by BTS haters. Frank Ocean's song clearly does not intend to disparage Islam. please, Muslim ARMYs should research his songs and not just look at parts of them. Please copy this article and correct any misunderstandings.

why not?

For the storyline of the taxi driver. Muslims were common in the area Frank was in as stated early in the video. Yes there’s other poc with other religions that are limited to taxi driver jobs too, but ultimately unless Frank have a bigger reason we don’t necessarily know. Also, Christianity is mentioned as well. He mentions a cult leader, so ultimately killed all of his followers It is not a call out on just one single religion For kpop, is it okay for le sserafim to be based on the Bible? I think it is. We do not necessarily know the religions behind every member, producer, creative director, etc of a project either. It’s all in the name of art and the human experience. No religion is not allowed to be criticized, as long as the criticisms do not attack the people. Plenty of Muslims love this song, plenty of them hate it. People are allowed to criticize the other side, even if they are not in the religion. I do not see this song as an attack on Islam, but rather a questionnaire of all religions and if someone is gay and isthemself then disproved in them, what make the religion good then? Or if they kill people ex the cult he also mentioned in the song, what makes them a good religion? It’s just art to think about and I doubt Frank holds any illness towards Islam or Christianity besides possible homophobia he has experienced.

Yeah that's contradictory and that belief celery maifest within Islamic communities in homophobic ways and in ways that is extremely similar to the fundamentalist or religious Christina that many fought agaisnt for their rights

bullshit

gender is something that is entirely made up by people, and depends heavily from culture to culture. sex is what is biological, but even then, intersex people do exist. with gender, nothing is for certain. women can be strong, men can be emotional, men used to wear skirts, women cut their hair short, it all depends on the individual. gender roles are never accurate in all cases for men or women, and some people find comfort in identifying with neither or both. having 2 genders does not provide benefit for society. gender has been valued for the wrong reasons, such as oppressing women or putting pressure on men and isolating them. it has been valued for silly reasons too, like not letting people wear a piece of clothing. "being confused" is not an issue, transgender people face pain only because of the hatred they receive from others and lack of resources, not their own "confusion." if they received support, they would be completely fine. its not wrong either. conservative culture has simply made it wrong to step outside normal boundaries because people are either afraid of change, or push their religion onto others. hope this explained a different perspective a little more, i am glad you did not mean to be rude with your question.

Tbh I don't think that's what it means. Think frank's overall skeptical abt having belief. He compares unrequited love with reaching out to a god that's never spoken back. U see the similarity he's trying to draw? It's not about hating ppl for being Muslim or hating on the Islam belief

@@oliviastylinson9911 why say “allahu akbar” when you don’t even understand what it means?

@@oliviastylinson9911 at this point it’s not even islamophobia it’s just straight up xenophobia

@@oliviastylinson9911 using a language that is associated in the west with terrorism and feeding harmful narratives that translate into surveillance on the Arab community is a bigoted thing to do. I don’t care what he has struggled with if he’s willing to throw another marginalized community under the bus for people to call him woke lol.

@@Ayah20098 he is paraphrasing the taxi driver in the song context

Say hello to freedom of speech 👋

Nobody cares . Freedom of speech exists . Nobody is forced to repect ur religion and ur god if they want to put it in a song they can

​@@maeum_maeum i get to say slurs and the hard r and i get to make racist and homophobic remarks? No ofc but when it comes to islam it's ok because of FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH

Its story telling

Rvaist and homophobic words is directly aboùta. Group of people. Islam is an ideology not a people and he was using it a s q upte from an experience ​@ilnoox