Bad Weather Conditions Or Faulty Plane? | American Eagle Flight 4184 | Mayday: Air Disaster

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The ATR-72 -- a twin engine commuter plane -- is circling O’Hare airport with 68 people on board. Suddenly - the plane spins wildly out of control. The pilots fight desperately to right their plane - but can’t.
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Mayday: Air Disaster - From Season 7 Episode 8 "Deep Freeze": When investigators arrive, all that’s left are tiny pieces. The plane has been shattered. And with pulverized human remains everywhere, the crash site is declared a biohazard.
Investigators soon learn that several of the planes holding above O’Hare had seen ice building-up on their wings. Could the crew of the American Eagle flight faced a similar problem without knowing it?
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@nelitasciretta7101 Год назад

What really impresses me in a lot of these videos is that most of the pilots are fighting for control to the very end. You can't fault these two pilots, they did exactly what they were suppose to do according to the rules and what they knew. These poor guys fought to the end trying to save all souls on board and their plane.

@rebeccahylant7695 Год назад

Tragic loss of life

@kefahksebe Год назад

You are correct,, also, they are trying to save their lives and go home to their love ones too

@JayVazquez Год назад

Well said! I'm sure it is drilled during flight school... 🙏

@SuperLordHawHaw Год назад

What else are you going to do? You'll try to recover until the last second.

@wenthulk8439 Год назад

Indeed

@larrymckinley2459 Год назад

Took a lot for Steve to stand up like he did. Beautiful work by everyone in finding the real problem with the ATR.

@RazorbackVol Месяц назад

Many thanks to the pilot (Stephen Frederick) who stood up and--at risk to his career--sounded a loud and clear warning. He is a hero.

@jawickersham 2 месяца назад

When I saw the video of Voepass 2283, I instantly thought of icing on the wings and the crash of American Eagle 4184. 😢

@daveerk6573 Год назад

I was working at O'Hare with American Eagle when the pilots would not fly the ATR-72s. People weren't upset since the pilots thought the plane was too dangerous to fly in winter conditions 🇺🇸

@wizzardofpaws2420 Год назад

I can't imagine being a passenger and the absolute terror they went through knowing they were going to die in a horrible way.

@bobbyg9662 Год назад

And you have your child there with and you are unable to protect him from disaster!

@jackwoods9604 Год назад

@@bobbyg9662 Yea That Must Have Made The Entire Event Much Worse For a Parent

@denniss8048 Год назад

@@jackwoods9604 but at least they both die and neither have to live without the other for the rest of their lives. Always look at the glass half full!!

@seanberthiaume6909 Год назад

But @ the same time it would be INSTANT moving @ that speed w/all that wieght-2-3 seconds maybe...

@jackwoods9604 Год назад

Would You People Rather be on a Plane That Falls From Sky From 30,000ft into Middle of The Ocean at Night or Get Stalked/Circled and Attacked and Eventually Eaten by a 20ft GW Shark?

@waverod9275 Год назад

I was a section editor of my high school yearbook the year of this crash. My high school was relatively near the crash site, and my local airport, though not one for this particular flight, was served by American Eagle flights to Chicago. My section covered news of the school year, and I made sure we covered this crash -- I think I wrote the piece myself.

@avgeekguy Год назад

Thats so cool! Do you happen to have a picture or copy of it?

@waverod9275 Год назад

@@avgeekguy not at this point. Look at Lafayette area yearbooks for the time. I wanted to send a photographer, but we ended up using a picture we bought at the time.

@SirCarlosMusicBMI Год назад

And WHY DON’T THEY PUT CAMERAS ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF PLANES ✈️??? Blessings, Carlos ✝️🙏😊😊🇺🇸

@nutsackmania Год назад

there must be some kind of award we can give this guy for his outstanding coverage!

@lizfaust3255 Год назад

I grew up in Lafayette took Northwest Airlink out of Purdue several times

@EvenRookiesCanWrench 2 месяца назад

RIP to the passengers and the crew from Brazil flight 2283 on a ATR-72-500

@marinazagrai1623 Год назад

So quick, always, to blame the dead pilots. I flew in a helicopter once, when I was in the services; we were flown to the site of a week’s training for those who were desk jockeys and the pilot flew so close to the trees that I swore I would only fly again on a real big plane.

@MGower4465 Год назад

I started flight training right after high school. My parents bought a package, air-ground instruction, block of hours, etc First flught up, the CFI takes control and tries to wet the tires in the river - so low we're below the riverbank level, trying to impress me, I suppose, though I have no idea why he'd bother. I went home and told my parents to get their money back. I wasn't a pro with thousands of flight hours, but even I knew hecwas unsafe. He was killed a few years later flying alone. I never tried to find any reports on it, but I am convinced he did something careless again.

@deansmith4549 Год назад

Just want to say that I am a FAA licensed A & P mechanic, I'm in no way the expert here BUT I do believe I have the average person's amount of common sense, with that said: At the 36:00 minute mark the Narrator ask's, but HOW could SO MUCH ICE, build up "behind" the de-ice boot? But what I ask is: How could this Aircraft get certificated in the United States, to be sold and flown to US air carrier's, when it has a "KNOWN" design discrepancy that can cause, proven, loss of control of the aircraft? Obviously this problem was known about in France, where it's manufactured. Shouldn't that knowledge follow to America and the airlines who are going to buy it and put our own citizens in danger from? I justify my saying this because of the part in this video where it showed the pilot, who was fired for trying to bring this knowledge OUT TO THE FLYING PUBLIC, Shouldn't that in and of itself prove that the knowledge " WASN'T" passed along to purchaser's of this type aircraft? And if the manufacturer, Airbus or Aerospatiale, which is now Airbus I believe, is going to be SO BOLD, to go so far as to not only remain silent about their own products design discrepancy, but then decide to place their own blame upon the poor ,innocent, unable to defend themselves, Pilot's of this I'll fated flight!!! How much colder and uncaring can it get?

@hiddenworldsmultimedia9380 Год назад

same reason that the FDA/USDA allows so many poisons in our food, they don't care, and $$. The FAA has a history of this..especially in regards to such myths as 'bridging', etc.

@stevencooke6451 Год назад

@@SCOOBYDOOBIEUFO Hence the release of the Boeing Air Max without paying to train pilots on features that lead to two horrific accidents.

@jocelynharris-fx8ho Год назад

How can an aircraft be sold, and flown in the United States when it had known design problems? 1 phrase: McDonnell Douglas DC10. Remember how the engineers knew about the faulty cargo doors during testing but rushed it into service and also, the plane had no backup systems, which was a major contributor to the Flight 191 crash. The people who design these faulty planes, never consider the possibility that their friends and loved ones might get on one of these planes. If they lost someone that they loved, they would exercise more care in designing and certification. But when people think about the money, lives are secondary. Disgusting!!!!

@notsocooldude7720 Год назад

Similar thing happened with the 737 MAX. Known design flaw that the FAA still somehow certified. As someone else mentioned, it’s all about $$

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

I definitely agree with your statement in all regards. When I heard about the one pilot getting suspended without pay for blowing the whistle on Good Morning America, I was stunned 😲 The man tells the truth about things and he gets disciplined for it. Typical power hungry response to the truth...

@fn0rd-f5o Год назад

As a pilot I can't belive that I put myself through watching these. Tragic and emotional 💔 but best to be informed

@michigangirl5072 Год назад

😊

@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 11 месяцев назад

I'm happy you get to know the truth by those videos

@ghw7192 11 месяцев назад

The Mayday series are my favorites of the disaster videos. They are well acted and the presentation is generally excellent.

@katrinarucker9773 10 месяцев назад

Me too.

@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren 7 месяцев назад

Pilot: This plane is broken, don't fly it until it's fixed Public: what a hero Manufacturer: *angry french noises* Company: you're fired for doing the right thing that hurts our money. FAA: *crickets*

@johnshields6852 Год назад

That type of plane always makes me uneasy, RIP 🙏

@ronniewall492 Год назад

I PREFER BIG PLANES.

@nysockexchange2204 Год назад

Isn't this the same type of plane that suddenly crashed in Nepal?

@barbiek3987 Год назад

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@barbiek3987 Год назад

and

@barbiek3987 Год назад

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@notsocooldude7720 Год назад

One of the most fascinating episodes of the series imo

@kristinekhan8465 Год назад

My Husband had co workers on this flight along with a family member..🥺🙏

@Emm325 8 месяцев назад

You keep changing your story, your “husband’s” family member, then your family member on other comments…lies, or sick attention seeking…goin off of the changing info gonna put you in that category of creep attention seeker, you know we can all see your past comments, right? Or maybe just us with YT premium…ever changing stories ya got going.

@ahanuban Год назад

Seriously impressive production quality on this show. Especially set, props, & costume design 👏🏽🤯

@jamie.777 Год назад

Agreed. Just found "meyday". Binging

@6names44 Год назад

Is this a /j moment

@theregoesatenner Год назад

@@6names44what

@tancart35 Год назад

I have learned so much about flying! Greg Love your commentary. I use to fly 75 % before Covd now work from home! Miss it a lot!

@latanyadavis8700 Год назад

May everyone who's died in a crash, rest in peace.

@dr.aviator Год назад

Dang. Flight attendant killed on her first day at work. RIP to the passengers and crew.

@Brendonbosy Год назад

Dont fly ATRs, worst safety record ever, typical French company with shady records that are hidden. The company blames pilots every time their flying coffins crash

@kellyanderson7624 Год назад

Good for Steve for standing up. It's too bad that higher up at the airlines who sit behind a desk and don't fly planes make disastrous decisions because they think they know better than pilots smh. Why are they never held acccountable?

@katrinarucker9773 10 месяцев назад

Money talks. They hate it when pilots are the heroes who will pull all the stops to save their passengers and flight crew. They want to make money off of their deaths. They can't make money off of them bringing them down ALIVE.

@chicagogyrl4846 Год назад

I live in Indiana, 2 hours from Chicago, and this one was a treat! Thanks!

@michellepotter9541 Год назад

I also live in Indiana and remember this well, it was close to where I lived and wrecked in town I worked.

@CanuckTony Год назад

First day on the job and it crashes? Wow, what are the odds?

@kennethcurtis1856 11 месяцев назад

100%

@MissEnglish123 Год назад

Finally an episode I haven’t seen!!!

@breakeverychain7 Год назад

Cant relate

@MissEnglish123 Год назад

@@breakeverychain7 I have seen this episode be4, I was mistaken!

@rachelharper3778 Год назад

lol I feel you too!

@cherylsmall4858 Год назад

For sure A new one for me

@Slimfromcaseohsgroccery Год назад

Yessir

@theworstemily 2 месяца назад

and now 62 more people in brazil are dead as well, most likely because of this exact same issue. fucking shame.

@evagracecakes4424 2 месяца назад

Here after the plane crush in Brazil 😢

@alfredochona2534 Месяц назад

This is the exact case of the accident in Brazil

@SpartacusErectus Год назад

Greg’s a good guy he must’ve been involved in so many crashes.

@PaulinaBridges Год назад

One of the most fascinating episodes of the series imo. The wings on that plane look small/thin/narrow in proportion to the fuselage..

@ChoufornowProductions Год назад

As soon as the wings dipped to the right, I figured there was a severe loss of lift on the right wing. Only one thing can effect a wing surface like that: icing.

@arandommanokit Год назад

well if the contolls moved to the side id thing something got riped off

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

A loss of rudder control or the vertical stabilizer could've also caused this... although the vid clearly showed why this crash occurred!

@HobbyOrganist Год назад

The way it happened sounded to me and I thought a flap or something broke off, or a cable snapped, especially since two pilots couldnt budge the wheel!

@semidhimmi3184 Год назад

A rudder hardover would do the same thing, And that was the problem with early Boeing 727's (IIRC).

@luddite333 Год назад

Why the heck is there music in the cockpit ? That seems insane. Is that a normal thing ? I have never heard of anything like that on other flights.

@ashleyreagan8875 Год назад

During the cruise portion of the flight I think it would be okay … but when they are below 10,000 ft the sterile cockpit rule applies…no distractions, no conversations other than what’s pertinent to the flight operation

@rebeccahylant7695 Год назад

Surgeons often play music in the O.R. while performing operations

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

I fully agree with you... completely unprofessional at any time during the flight, from the taxi run to the landing

@Nightshiftzombie 10 месяцев назад

You can pick up AM radio stations on the ADF. It's one of the navigation radios. It sort of out of date technology, so if the Aircraft still has it installed listening to Baseball games is pretty much what it gets used for.

@katrinarucker9773 10 месяцев назад

You'll be amazed at what abnormal things they do in the cockpit and the aviation industry tolerates them.

@peanutgallery4159 Год назад

Cameras are so lite and small these days,.why aren't they installed so pilots can see all critical parts of the airplane? Makes sense to me?

@jman823833 Год назад

I’m so glad the film crew survived

@CanuckTony Год назад

C’mon now….😮

@R.Oates7902 Год назад

Lol!!!

@ryeistoasted8577 Год назад

they've been through *so* many of these...what luck

@austin3082 Год назад

😭😭😭💀

@thomaskeil1437 Год назад

Dark Humor. It's sometimes the reason why people will laugh or smile when faced by a tragic or sad event. Other times, people try to diminish the effects of an awkward situation by interjecting attempts of levity.

@JoeyFlyBoy 2 месяца назад

Whos here because of the Voepass accident?

@cesarvargas1124 2 месяца назад

@@JoeyFlyBoy me ! Yes absolutely

@cesarvargas1124 2 месяца назад

Me, yes absolutely!

@1compaqedr8 Месяц назад

everyone

@amyschlegel1180 11 месяцев назад

If I had known all the dangers of flying in the 1980s and 90s, I don’t think I would’ve ever flown in the airplane! This video now makes me very fearful of flying during icy conditions!

@timdai09 Год назад

Damn do they get Nokia to make those black boxes? How do they still work? It's like the only part of the plane that's still intact.

@SuperPickle15 Год назад

well, they are mounted in the tail. Which is usually the last thing to impact. However, looking at the report, the plane was traveling over 340mph vertically, So yeah, CVRs and FDRs are built with Nokiaium it appears.

@brigidtheirish Год назад

I saw the episode on Tuninter Flight 1153, which was the same type of plane, and recall that one of the people interviewed said flying it was like "balancing a beach ball on a beer bottle." *Yikes.*

@williamfeilhauer2667 Год назад

As a professional drummer I flew more than I would of liked. I flew on one those ugly planes just once.I kissed the ground when I got off that flying coffin in San Francisco. Never again. If it ain't Boeing I ain't going . God bless and keep 🙏 those soles who died and ease the pain of their love ones.

@kjhart60 Год назад

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going. I love it that's the way I feel too

@mikedineen7857 Год назад

You don’t want to know about the quality coming out of SC.

@williamfeilhauer2667 Год назад

@@mikedineen7857 that bad huh

@glennzanotti3346 Год назад

Yeah, that 737 MAX is an engineering triumph, eh?

@vm6824 Год назад

*Souls*. Sole is the bottom of a shoe. Stay in school.

@HaesslichG Год назад

47:25 - FAA rubber stamps the results of the party testing their own plane. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

@ArsenalGunners89 Год назад

The more things change the more they stay the same

@AbcdEf-lz6oe Год назад

The French Authorities didn’t make the plane, so I don’t get this attempt at an analogy.

@HaesslichG Год назад

@@AbcdEf-lz6oe News flash - the FAA doesn't make planes either. But they are responsible for testing and ensuring they're airworthy before they're licensed to fly in American airspace and let Boeing certify their own product's safety instead of doing their job. Just like the French did here.

@Madhouse_Media 11 месяцев назад

But if the FAA was doing their job you'd be complaining about government overreach or something.

@William_Stephens Год назад

Welp. Just made a mental mark to avoid flying on these planes at all cost

@Snarf_Le_Wombat Год назад

ATRs do have a sketchy rep

@raymarshall6721 Год назад

ATR is one of the safest manufacturers you can rely on. Pretty much all of their accidents were pilot error. The new 600 series especially are great aircraft especially compared to their direct counterparts at Embraer and DeHavilland

@mathis8007 7 месяцев назад

@@raymarshall6721ATR are like a Diet Dash-8, no real power behind it’s props.

@prorobo 2 месяца назад

@@raymarshall6721 thanks for letting us know you’re clueless. ATR is so safe that the deice boots needed to be enlarged via airworthiness directives and they’re still not big enough. Multiple crashes due to icing including the one that happened yesterday in Brazil. But yeah, it’s pilot error and not an awful design. 👍

@karencahill2493 Год назад

As a former flight attendant in Chicago we were told that the FARs federal aviation regulations are written in blood. Every incident and or accident that’s investigated and deemed appropriate are what give birth to a new regulation. Hence our manuals cover the recommendations that cover how we handle emergency situations on the aircraft.

@williamfeilhauer2667 Год назад

Karen Cahill, I have all the respect in the world 🌎 for flight attendants in general. You guys are the unsung heroes of the aviation industry . You guys are the ones that keep everything under control. Be safe.

@karencahill2493 Год назад

@@williamfeilhauer2667 thank you. I left the industry in 2005. Given the collapse of society as I knew it, I would not recommend the industry and my heart goes out to those who are putting themselves on the frontline.

@DK-lg7ti Год назад

flight attendant more pay per mont. plus big bonus yearly

@DK-lg7ti Год назад

i meant Deserve more money

@ClearedAsFiled Год назад

Flight Attendants are ROCKSTARS and work under very challenging conditions.....

@larkpraise Год назад

My heart breaks for all the passengers but especially the little boy.

@R.Oates7902 Год назад

October 31st, 1994. Spooky, unlucky day to fly. The pilot should have stayed home. If they paid him more he could have done so! He never got to meet his second child. This cheap airline robbed him of that joy! Shame on them!!!! 😡

@rogerszmodis Год назад

What?

@katrinarucker9773 10 месяцев назад

@@rogerszmodisYep! Sad, but true.

@MaydayAirDisaster Год назад

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@RSEFX Год назад

This again shows that monitors showing CC video views of the wings (from a couple angles) should have been (and still can be) added cockpit, maybe just behind the pilots (ie not on their main control panels) that can help them ascertain any problems developing along the wings. The technology for small sized cameras and CC monitors has been available for decades, and certainly could've helped pilots figure out exactly what blind-spot conditions of the plane were/are like. This seems to be a major oversight in the airline industry, and could certainly have save at least some of the lives lost...and also helped crash investigators ---if the video images were also stored in the black boxes---to more quickly/less expensively discover just what went wrong.

@mariawhite7337 Год назад

Sadly its basically too much money would be needed to do that. Not to mention flight down times and the whole deal with electrical systems. Which you don't even want to know about.

@RSEFX Год назад

And it would be an inexpensive and relatively simple of a retro-fit to add a couple small cameras, a la dashcams.

@mariawhite7337 Год назад

@RSEFX no it isn't just that simple. No really. Can dashcams work outside in the altitude for one? Will they withstand what happens during a normal flight? Pressure, wind, turbulence, etc? Then you'd really yes need to ground the planes, and expose the wiring. Wich needs days. On a plane. Days out of commission like that could be millions of dollars. Even battery powered cameras would need just as much compilacation to go with it. Then you have the small issue that lithium batteries catching on fire to contend with the battery ones. It really isn't just that simple. Yes it is simple ON PAPER or in a comment. There is a billion and one steps and things to consider in the actual implementation of said thing.

@RSEFX Год назад

@@mariawhite7337 I'm factoring those things. And I disagree. Four cameras (with the exception of the tail camera) mounted inside the plane, and four wires leading to a laptop monitoring the 4 views (each wing, the tail and underside near the nose). This could be done when planes go in for overhauls and maintenance, one at a time. I have a docked and sectioned full size airliner fuselage to study only about 150 feet away from where I live, where I'm sitting and typing this, and I've gone over and examined it a number of times. Of course it isn't super simple, but it is reasonably simple, and would give pilots one extra means to see and figure out problems that have occurred in the past. Flying blind to huge parts of their own vehicle seems rather primitive after all these decades, especially when so many lives are at stake. Even rockets we send into the upper atmosphere into outer space into far more trying environments have multiple cameras mounted on them. Yes, there may be SOME complications, but surely, by now, this isn't worth NOT doing, or trying, one way or another.

@anniherekins3915 Год назад

Damn…. To have a plane crush as a trainee controller, to crush and die at first day of flight attendant work…. Horrible…

@loganlove9986 Год назад

Great spulling there

@Pitiful_Princess 9 месяцев назад

This flight lead to the creation of the Aviation Disaster Family Assistance Act. Families were left in the dark, and the news media would learn about updates before them. Survivors didnt know their next steps or where to seek help. Families found body parts and personal possessions left in the field after "cleanup". Future surivors benefit because roles for organizations from airlines, to NTSB are clearly defined. Airlines that fly to, from, and within the US now have a percentage of staff trained to act as family advocates.

@pedenmk Год назад

I remember when this accident happened. I lived in Indiana at the time. My condolences go out to the family of those who lost their lives.

@johannamercado9024 Год назад

I flew in one of those from Ponce to San Juan PR back in 1994. Bad experience, really bad!!

@williamkinyon3832 Год назад

What kind of bad experience did you have ??

@SuperPickle15 Год назад

@@williamkinyon3832 well their talking about it, so couldn't be that bad.

@scottdunfee8117 8 месяцев назад

I remember this one. I was in junior high at the time, and they closed down our school for a few days in order to use the gymnasium as a makeshift morgue.

@animehuntress9018 Год назад

Something I don't get is why a captain wouldn't update dispatch of the conditions. It's so common and standard to do so that its odd he doesn't. In those conditions even 5-10 min updates helps, so thinking that others must have already done so isn't a consideration. Why did something so standard get dropped? Especially when the FO purposely asked the captain to do so? Its part of flight management, even on the ground.

@minipolish2775 Год назад

I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but I’m guessing “get-there-itis” where some pilots are under pressure to just get to their destination. But again I haven’t seen the whole doc yet so I’m not sure. Anyway, he should have updated them

@R.Oates7902 Год назад

WHY do I watch this stuff if I HATE flying!?

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

It was up to air traffic control in this case to provide updates because they were in a holding pattern. Only a really concerned pilot might try to get an update... I don't think it's mandatory procedure

@animehuntress9018 Год назад

@@craigphillips4205 Its not getting an update its giving it and absolutely normal in bad conditions. Pilots give heads up to the towers regularly. Be it wind shear, Icing, Hail, etc. Its not just about safety but watching out for each other and making sure everyone has the information they need to land or fly safely. It is completely irregular for a captain not to update the tower when his FO asked him too. If he couldn't do it he would literally pass the buck right back to the FO who would do so.

@thisravenhasflown010 4 месяца назад

I can never say they didn't suffer unless its an explosion with no warning beforehand. There may have been no physical suffering but they suffered all the way down, poor souls. 😳😞

@jimtrack3786 Месяц назад

And now it has happened again in Brazil.

@christianhoffman7407 Год назад

The wings on that plane look small/thin/narrow in proportion to the fuselage.

@travismaxwell9115 Год назад

His day off, he should have never came in.

@tancart35 Год назад

Agreed. Dang!

@williamfeilhauer2667 Год назад

@@tancart35 ain't it the truth. That unlucky sole

@CanuckTony Год назад

Well, looking back……poor guy

@R.Oates7902 Год назад

@@williamfeilhauer2667 That unlucky soul

@pony0110 Месяц назад

Anyone watching because of that Brazil flight 8/2024

@yours2injesus2 21 день назад

HOW SAD

@andreseh87 11 месяцев назад

This show is phenomenal.

@BigEightiesNewWave 2 месяца назад

The amount of research they did, using NASA and such, was AWESOME.

@toptiergaming6900 Год назад

3:58 There is always someone who dies like this in every episode, I swear.

@amyschlegel1180 11 месяцев назад

There are a few episodes where everyone survives, like the episode about Captain Sully.

@flyingcat812 Год назад

The cabin interior looks huge

@williamkinyon3832 Год назад

I noticed that too

@bill2066 Год назад

NEVER say "Happy Halloween" in an airplane.

@TheGammingPie Месяц назад

Yk... I relate to the pilot! I love riding horses and flying!! It's my two joys I have in life

@steveedward7572 Год назад

So the deicing was on and working only it's junk. Sounds like a doomed situation.

@HobbyOrganist Год назад

@13:42 "The airplanes two flight recorder boxes are found intact" Scene shows two SMASHED, mangles and bent black boxes on a cart...sure looked "intact" to me

@regionalflyer 3 месяца назад

The tail section that housed the recorders was really the only part recognizable as being part of an aircraft.

@stephensalloum7763 2 месяца назад

Voepass Flight 2866 Another ATR-72 Crashed Today Icing Could be The Cause

@bobbobertson7568 2 месяца назад

Once I heard ATR and ice zone I thought about this one

@stephensalloum7763 2 месяца назад

@@bobbobertson7568 Can Ice Stall a Plane

@stephensalloum7763 2 месяца назад

@@bobbobertson7568 I think the Control Column Might of Turned Sharply and maybe thats what cause the Spin

@dynasty006-y9e 22 дня назад

@@stephensalloum7763 severe icing can. Since it adds weight and drag to the plane, and it may disrupt the flow of air over the wings.

@w.a4856 Год назад

I was almost on this flight…

@w.a4856 Год назад

A random change in schedule saved my life. I took the next flight out. No problems with it. 🙏

@w.a4856 Год назад

(By “after”, I mean after they allowed these planes to fly regional airports again. It was a couple of months. I figured they had sorted out the problems, but was still kinda scared; Peoria to Chicago: January 1995).

@GeorgeH.Chapman 2 месяца назад

Why can't they have some sort of built in heater in the wings to keep ice forming? Just a thought.

@1compaqedr8 Месяц назад

apparently only larger jet engines have enough power for the bleed air wing heaters. after quick research since crash, i can confidently say de-ice boots suck. lots of turboprop crashes from it, ATR, dash8, pilatus, tbm, etc. 'Ice Sight' is only product that has low electrical load anti-ice wing heating capability I've found thus far.

@stevencooke6451 Год назад

Usually, at least by the end you can clear changes being made that ensure that such an accident will not recur. Other than airlines electing to use the ATRs on southern routes this episode doesn't have a comforting close to it.

@notsocooldude7720 Год назад

They redesigned the de-icing boot as well

@toyotaandlexussupercharged6699 Месяц назад

An it did 30 years later in 2024 another ATR 72-500 crashed due to icing conditions.

@puzzlepupwoody6574 Год назад

What's the carbon footprint on a 2 hrs flight???

@janicedelorenzo4924 Год назад

Me too!

@pattypark8548 Год назад

Methodology wasn't as advanced or as well known. Now we have the weather channel. 🧐🤓😎👍🖖

@neatstuff1988 Год назад

Most aircraft systems have what they call blowdown protection. Maybe not turbo problems but most all jet craft have it .

@Sockmonkey3940 5 месяцев назад

thanks mr peabody

@anthony9947 2 месяца назад

Another one! What the h3II

@omaroba1490 Год назад

great videos of planes.

@kennethcurtis1856 11 месяцев назад

I knew one of the victims. The previous spring, he graduated law school and was returning after just taking his Indiana bar exam. He and his dad, with all the others, RIP.

@PokemonRangerKellyn Год назад

I was just a baby when this happened right in my “back yard” was living in Chicago Illinois at the time

@DOJO-r8w 9 дней назад

Voepass was a flat spin unlike flight 4184 which was a dive.

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

Despite the pilots acting quite unprofessional prior to the crash, they did nothing wrong to cause the crash since they activated their de-icing system. FAULTY SYSTEM. Even if the plane landed, those pilots probably should have got some sort of punishment for their behaviour... but I guess that's not an option now....

@amyschlegel1180 11 месяцев назад

A moot point.

@tancart35 Год назад

I.’m ready for new episodes

@butchieblock9118 Год назад

Anymore I just do a quick scan somewhere in the middle of the video and realized I've already seen it, and don't continue to waste my time!

@RowletGod69 Год назад

I remember these episodes but I watch them anyway. I’m glad new episodes aren’t being made much though- it means aviation is much safer

@DPBGMODELRAILROAD Год назад

I want new episodes only if they are finding new information on old accidents!

@EJ-74 Год назад

@@RowletGod69 There's a lot of other crashes and mishaps that could be covered though. There's a lot of channels covering them but their videos aren't this well put together. Mentor Pilot covers a lot of crashes and he does a great job on his videos.

@noogman Год назад

Why do Airliners not have cameras which allow them to see ice buildup on wings, engines on fire, and landing gear malfunctions. I can see anyone approaching my ring doorbell, or my Tesla with cameras. What the F's is wrong with congress that they can't Airline safety rules in place.

@donovandelaney3171 Год назад

So it was a Conspiracy. Interesting. We shouldn’t be too surprised by this. This happens all the time.

@paulahamilton3089 Год назад

So is it better to crash on land or water. I have seen bad water ones but don't you have more of a chance to survive if in water?

@Adoni3 Год назад

So the reason is the waves. A land is relatively flat or you can land in a relatively flat surface. A wave that goes up could knock the plane off and cause it to go up in flames.

@Jekyll08 Год назад

I'm no expert but based on watching many of these episodes of this show it seems land is the preferred choice. Since water, as Adoni3 mentioned, is unstable and you run the risk of the plane cartwheeling and breaking apart.

@slagarcrue85 Год назад

It’s better to hit concert them water if your falling from a certain height you’ll still die but your corpse would be more intact.

@pop5678eye Год назад

Land is preferred if there is any open area. Even without waves the water is more dangerous since any breakup will doom the plane to sink and give less chance for passengers to escape the wreck. Also rescue is a lot harder on water and if rescue doesn't arrive soon many people who survived the initial crash can die of hypothermia. Water landings are preferred only if all nearby land is either too steep or is densely obstructed. (e.g. by buildings)

@catherinevalois2290 Год назад

at these speeds it REALLY doesn't matter

@snowman2834 Год назад

Great pilots, you can't fault them for having fun with the ladies, when it came to piloting they did a spectacular job

@vm6824 Год назад

They acted like idiots in high school. They weren't professional. Have fun when you are in a bar, not flying a plane. Duh.

@snowman2834 Год назад

@Takaya M they are more men then you will ever be

@jocelynharris-fx8ho Год назад

I agree. These pilots acted unprofessional and more important, the captain was married and his wife was expecting. He should have been thinking of his family instead of flirting. Also, playing music in the cockpit, created distractions that made the situation worse; even if they were above the "sterile cockpit " altitude. I believe that sterile cockpit rules should apply during adverse weather events as well.

@npkrn6764 Год назад

@@jocelynharris-fx8ho Yep, let's hope the pilot's widow found a better man after who wasn't the type "getting busy" with his lady coworkers!!!

@blahblahsuperanon Год назад

@@jocelynharris-fx8ho Distractions did NOT make this particular crash worse though. The pilots did everything correctly according to the information they had. If they'd been flying a different plane without this shitty design flaw, they'd have been just fine. I agree they were being unprofessional but that didn't contribute at all to the accident.

@barbiek3987 Год назад

What's up with comments doing some sort of spell check on their own? And then leaving the comment blank, or at least it looks blank.

@Thebakedbaker413 Год назад

33:40 dear god...

@DJMemeboy 7 дней назад

This has since been reuploaded at least once with a different name and thumbnail to make it look like a different video

@pop5678eye Год назад

32:33 Did a pilot just call a yoke a 'steering wheel?'

@ernestryles Год назад

Yes. Probably so average people would be able to understand what he was saying.

@2511jeremy Год назад

@@ernestryles thats not a steering wheel not even close

@ernestryles Год назад

@@2511jeremy again, does an average person know what a yoke is or does? No. They do however know that steering wheels steer things.

@Madhouse_Media 11 месяцев назад

Pilots refer to yokes as "control wheels" all the time. Watch some videos made by actual pilots and you'll hear them say it.

@ironhorsegladiator5034 Год назад

Poor initial aeronautical design at the cost of passengers and crew, greed rules the aviation industry and their CEOs, they should serve prison times.

@juliemanarin4127 Год назад

I have never been on a prop plane...and I won't... My God what a terrible tragedy...awful!

@richardkallio3868 Год назад

Nothing wrong with prop planes. The Dash 8 is a tough, safe, and reliable workhorse. It was designed and engineered in Canada, where we know all about ice and winter conditions!

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

I've been on a number of prop planes, even one where the pilot used a hairdryer to de-ice his wings. Many smaller prop planes don't have a de-icing system so you gotta make due. And usually prop planes are set-up for shorter flights. I can say that turbulence on a small prop plane is much easier to deal with than turbulence on a Boeing jet! I'll take a prop plane ANYDAY over a commercial jet😊

@craigphillips4205 Год назад

@@richardkallio3868no doubt about that! The Cessnas and Otters are awesome prop planes that are super reliable and tough as nails in adverse conditions. On one flight, we had a super stiff cross wind and the pilot basically side slipped the Cessna for the majority of the flight. It was no laughing matter to say the least lol😂 I can laugh now because I'm still here 😂

@keithwalker6892 18 дней назад

Faulty plane. Wing Cross-section collects ice . See NTSB report. ATR must be grounded. I would not fly in it . I’ce affects controls

@alexandrebuisson8158 Год назад

Scary 😟

@pentiuman Год назад

They should have 'black boxes' on cars, that record all your exact speeds and turns, and times, and can determine accident causes, blame, and insurance final determinations.