Baker Mayfield Feels Like He Was Set Up To Lose By The Browns? | Pat McAfee Reacts 

Fr like they said Baker gotta grow up 🤷

Except for Hooper that was all the previous regime.

He's a loser if he thinks this

Well they forced their franchise QB to play with a completely messed up shoulder.

@@michaelmocombe4160 no they didn’t he chose to play

It was great, I was facing Nick Chubb in my league. I loved that game

Nice add to this comment Brian!! We all loved that game.

Our tackle was on an island against watts. Made no sense.

Some Steeler fan!!!! No way was baker Winning that game!!!! Did the browns pay TJ too????

Because TJ is that good!!!

Success?

@@user-oo4xu4by3w I mean, people thought the browns were a super bowl caliber team. He not only made it to the playoffs, but won a game. In the browns organization that’s the definition of success. And I’m a lifelong Steelers fan. Browns do what the browns do.

@@user-oo4xu4by3w yes absolutely. The Browns were the laughing stock of the league for basically two decades. Baker took them to the playoffs AND beat a division rival who has owned them for a long time in THEIR HOUSE.

Success 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Success 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Sucess ok

@@timshottakes4673 I’d credit the 8 pro bowlers who have actually been top players in the league while Bakers best year is being 10th in QBR. 1 winning season out of 4 lmao

That’s because making money requires you to sell your soul for a certain narrative

Yeah, they're giving Baker a very fair and honest commentary.

People still watch ESPN?

Woke ESPN/Disney….

@@OnyemaechiAmuro kinda sad you're a grown ass man saying "Maker Gayfield"

I mean he can call audibles

Not me, if you want 30+ million a year, prove it and play well. Deshaun Watson in 2020 had all of his talent traded away, an awful line, and no running game. He went out and proved why he got 46 million.

@@deesee2051 When Chubb wasn't in the game? Dude.

@@brandonman1315 wasn't that the year the Texans won 2 or 3 games? Was Nuke hurt that year too?

@@jimlindsay9758 Chubb being in or out the gm doesn’t have anything to do with what I said

LOL

At one point they were super favorites. Baker just didn’t play well. They had top OL top Wr core and great running game. Baker was just over hyped. Some QBs play well in college but not in the NFL. Also he comes off as someone with a smug attitude

In that same game. Baker pumped faked 4 times on 4 different open receivers. Then got sacked.

@@mrphenom1643 yes even Payton and Eli manning were saying that he was playing bad

Baker was their guy. Them setting him up to fail would only hurt them in the longrun and waste team talent. It doesn't make a lick of sense to set him up to fail if he has the talent to put this team over the hump.

Baker needs absolutely everything to be perfect in order to have literally any success

baker said that he decides if he plays or not. After browns win a game without him there was no way he was going to sit.

He knew Case was as good as him and didn’t want to be replaced by a cheaper guy.

3rd a@@laryjohnson5736 is ed

it was his non throwing are not his throwing arm

Baker has a winning record with the Browns- that is very impressive. Next best is Derek Anderson with 16-18 I think

Baker is not “top pick in the draft” talent. But baker played hurt last year. Which was his mistake. Baker has an attitude, that was his demise.

@@stephenharris9802 yep...too cocky for the BLACK PLAYERS.. Brought out the Racist Sabatoging behavior.. May he go to a NonBigoted team. But highly unlikely as even the Media is behaving Like a bigot towards him. PAT SAID IT WHEN HE POINTED OUT MEDIA ONLY SHOWING BAD THROWS. FACT ....fashionable to kick Cocky White Man when down.

@@stephenharris9802 You've thrown how many TDs in your lifetime?

If that's the case why was peyton manning and the whole looking for him do or die moments

just when it seems like they have it all together.... they dont😂😂😂

Browns 💪💯

Browns are the only team in league history to get a clear upgrade at the most important position and it being “self destruct”

Cleveland isn’t self destructing. They’re improving. And Watson will definitely help them be contenders.

Cleveland Predators

OUCHHHH hahaha I can't lie, as a skins fan I 100% secretly had a similar thought as I laugh to myself

When you order Jerry Jones from “WISH”…

Yeah but we do not know he's guilty so that's not really fair. All we know is it's accusations.

Yeah your not a browns fan

100%

Shut up, players have been constantly complaining about the media on social media even Troy hill bitched about being disrespected by Cleveland for being trade for a 5th round pic.

I was a browns fan for 30 yrs. now I'm not cuz baker will prove the browns wrong on this whole situation. Watson is overhyped and went 4-12 his last season and collecting garbage stats cuz of playing from behind all the time. Baker will get the last laugh and so will I cuz browns fans are garbage.

@@patricksapanaro4173 yeah everybody is buying the fact you were a Browns fan.

@@patricksapanaro4173 your a browns fan but just called browns fans garbage. That’s funny asf. Man stop it, only Oklahoma Stan’s think watson isn’t a significant upgrade. Sorry Watson didn’t have 3 pro bowl lineman, two pro bowl running backs, all pro defensive end and cornerback like baker all had in cleveland. There were other teams ready to pay Deshaun what we did as well. They think as highly as him as we do

How long have been here?

@@MrHurdleking24 since they were on barstool...and pat was trying stand up.

AJ is the biggest jock ever. They have a packer flag football charity game every year and AJ decleated the kid with cancer.... it was sick

@@babyfarksmgeezaks1037 absolute legend

What are you talking about ,the number 1 offensive line in football has never let baker get touched

@@tal2rah guard to guard they are by a mile, but when your starting tackles are both out and the backups suck even by backup standards, that "#1 offensive line in the NFL" doesn't mean much against a good pass rush

@@tal2rah Lfao

@DeSean Jackson #Jaccpot #0ne0fone #1hunna Absolutely, I witnessed firsthand.

Doesn't the quarterback call the line protections ? All these excuses for a average qb with top 3 offensive line, running backs. The playoff win against Pittsburgh ,, they had about 4 1st half turnovers

You're talking about a city which had the river catch fire, so that's true.

How was he done dirty? Browns gave him two top quality RBs and two #1 WRs and yet he still can't win. His teammates turned on him if he really was the guy they'd be sticking up for him.

@@JJ-zr6fu research. Besides that everything don't fall on the qb all the time. The offensive coordinator and head coach probly aren't good coaches they count for at least 40% of every play to make the right call

🤣🤣 amazing take. You definitely know what you're talking abt

THATS THAT LES SNEAD MONEY, BABY!!! STRAIGHT CASH, HOMIE🐐🐐🐐🐐

Rams also got Stafford out of the deal. Browns would eat the whole 19 mil if we got a Probowl player in return.

@@timothystuber110 The point is $19 mill in dead cap space won't necessarily ruin a team's ability to build a championship roster. The Browns have Watson at QB at only a $10 million cap number and haven't been asking for a Pro Bowler in return, they've been asking for money and picks. They have a pretty good roster otherwise. So they might've been best served taking what CAR offered prior to the draft: a late rounder and a few million $. Maybe a contender's QB goes down in training camp or the first few weeks and they get a better deal, but at what point was it just not worth drawing the whole thing out? If the Chargers are 4-3 and Herbert goes down, what's that offer going to look like? A 2nd and 4th? (It's what the Panthers gave the Jets for Darnold. I know Mayfield is better, but the timing and money is what changes things) It's an objectively better deal than what was on the table before the draft, but isn't there also value in just being done with the whole mess?

They didn't have the power to force him(or anyone) to play through an injury, no team does. You don't 'adjust' the offense you built months planning because someone is injured, if he is THAT injured he has no business playing. They put him out there because he kept telling the world he could run that offense, and do it better than his healthy backup. All he had to do was get the surgery. He WANTED to play, he thought he could tough it out. It was a mistake sure, but only because we now know he couldn't really do it at a high level. Sometimes when you bet on yourself it doesn't work. Telling someone you can do your job, but only if they modify you and everyone else's jobs to fit in with your special requirements...that isn't usually how things work.

​@@camstegames8437 I forgot it's entirely up to Baker and the head coach has no say in who's starting. Almost every athlete worth their salt thinks they can play through whatever injury they're dealing with unless it's debilitatingly bad. Now imagine that the person in charge is plotting to get rid of said injured guy: of course they're going to let him go out and make an ass out of himself to play off of stupid people's recency biases so nobody's upset when get cut the QB that took them to the post season. There is a bigger picture than what's been carefully crafted and presented to you.

@@coopers1716 The players union has provisions in the contract with the NFL about forcing a player to play injured. I didn't mean about starting, I meant about the injury. Most players choose to get treatment instead of risking to play through them if they think it will affect their play, and then publicly state the 'teams' or 'doctors' decision to hold them out. Baker may have rubbed some the wrong way sure(there wasn't much player support vocalized after the OBJ thing, that is pretty telling), but everyone leaps to wild outlandish conspiracies. Like everyone on the team just decided to derail their playoff hopes(which they still had up until what week 16?) simply to make someone look bad? Receivers decided to slow down their route so a pass looked inaccurate? Or O-line just decided we don't need that playoff bonus, we are much better off letting our QB get sacked and looking incompetent? I personally REALLY like Baker, I didn't want them to get Watson and keep him instead. However you don't lessen the trade value of someone you are planning to move on from when you still have him under contract. Browns bungled the offseason and panicked when they realized that Baker was too pissed off to come back, but purposefully tanking his trade value mid season? Come on. No one would have stormed the stadium if they moved on. No one is storming the stadium even now when most think he was screwed over and the team grossly overpaid for his replacement.

@@camstegames8437 Nobody's saying anything about forcing him to play, I'm saying it's half your fault if you know your guy can't perform and needs to heal, yet you send him out anyways. Regardless of what he says. Athletes are almost always going to be too personally involved to have the vision and clarity to say, often for the first time in their lives, "you know what coach, I can't do it." I'm too lazy to write more, I think it's sabotage and can't be bothered to write an essay about it without a grade or pay lol.

If kicking us around makes people feel good about themselves....go ahead....cuz you're gonna really hate it when we start dominating....the tide will eventually turn...starting this year!..... if Putin doesn't blow us all up first.

Y’all swore he was before Watson became a reality lol

I agree with you man. He might be considered bad but he’s the first qb to win a playoff game with Cleveland since Belichek was the head couch in 95 or 94

28-0 was the roughest first quarter in a playoffgame I have ever seen

Coming from a pitt fan that win was well deserved from y’all but it really wasn’t baker who did it I mean you can’t understate his contribution but you gonna sit there and not say your defense kinda clutched up hard core for y’all😂😂

@@ohs7002 Actually it wasn't most Browns fans as I have come to realize during the fallout behind Baker. Many of these ppl who believed Baker could do no wrong were sooner fans. I believe most actual Browns fans either liked Baker, didn't care for him either way, or hated him because of the Ohio State flag plant. But the ones that were convinced he was one of the great QBs had to have been Sooner fans.

You mean where Chubb had 127 yards on 17 carries vs GB and you have Baker finish the game with 3 or 4 throws? Or when Chubb had 8 carries vs the Ravens cause we wouldn't run with a fullback? Or how bout the fact Chubb's season high was the only game Stefanski didn't coach in the Raiders game and that was 23 carries? Nah, they didn't set him up to fail at all........................

I'm not a browns fan but they had a few games late in the year where baker was wearing a brace hurt, and they would line up 2 or 3 TE and 2 WR and no one in the backfield and throw a 5 yard slant ( with the QB hurt ) and when your QB is hurt and you pass 38 times... Bill bellichick won a game where the QB threw 2 passes against the Bills (a really good playoff team)... Stefanksi definitely not a genius play caller... Even if you hate baker, the coach sucks

Having extensively studied the situation with the Chicago Bears over the past few seasons, I find your comment to give me a profound sense of deja vu. You have Stefanski and Baker in the same kind of situation now as Matt Nagy and Mitch Trubisky were during the last offseason. Trubisky ultimately goes off in free agency like much of Chicago's fanbase wanted, but you can see from last season's record that was a TERRIBLE mistake for them to make. Cleveland's fanbase HAS to account for the very real possibility that Stefanski (who won Coach of the Year his first year just like Matt Nagy did) is the same kind of "system-based fraud" Nagy was. And IF that's true, the Watson "experiment" is guaranteed to end in disaster. Period.

In this particular game Chubb hurt his shoulder

I definitely had my own concerns stefanski was doing this watching the season but at the end of a day a healthy baker aint better Watson hopefully he's innocent go browns

Hilarious how wrong you are. That video doesn't exist. Obj didn't have a bad attitude. Baker is literally not a very good qb and odell was right to be upset. Furthermore all the reports coming out are that baker was the one who soured his relationship with most of the lockeroom and acted childishly. The man literally deserves none of this adoration lol.

no one other than dumb skip bayless said this crap. Every browns player wanted obj there. so I dont know how u gonna glance over bakers inaptitude to blame superbowl champ obj.

@@dylanclark8856 obj was the problem. Funny how he was able to run his routes correctly on a different team. He deliberately was out of place for Baker.

@@emmiesmith4925 oh yeah. Also clearly the offense took off after odell got traded...... oh wait no it didn't 😂😂😂

Yeah regardless of what the Browns were doing Baker should not have played. In the NFL if you're less than 95 percent you shut it down unless you've already got the contract.

He's also paying the price for sitting back, waiting for Watson to cross the Browns off his list, and *then* immediately demanding a trade. He tried to stick it to the Browns. Then Watson ended up coming to Cleveland and Mayfield is left in the cold. These locker room problems were clearly much worse than anyone knew. Mayfield's talent isn't big enough to overcome being such a drama queen. Teams don't want to deal with it. So, if the Browns have to eat his contract, it really doesn't matter a ton to them. They got their 26yo franchise QB. They have Myles Garrett and Nick Chubb and Amari Cooper and Kareem Hunt and JOK, etc. They'll be fine. Baker? Not so much. For a 26yo quarterback who you think has a chance to be your future guy, $18m isn't that much money. It's pretty obvious, regardless of whether or not teams want to "do the Browns a favor," he just isn't valued as a starting QB by other franchises.

@@rba7712 that’s backwards. Baker is in the better position cause either they’ll release him and he gets 19ms and choose where he wants or he sits the entire season makes 19ms and gets released in next off season and still gets to choose where he wants. Either way he gets 19ms it’s on the browns cause if he’s not in the roster his salary won’t count against it vs if he is but ok the bench. They have 4 qbs they can’t afford this

@@kodaking6924 Browns are paying with money, Baker is paying with his rep. 19 mill isn't a death sentence. Baker doesn't have a clear path towards starting in the league.

Did you actually listen to what they said? Teams want baker they just aren’t giving up picks when they know he’s going to be released… he’ll have his choice for a few teams come July or August. They can get him for FREE, why would you trade for him?

What did he do baker sucks this coming from a browns fan

The browns are better than your team

He said he was still the best option. He chose to play.

I think Baker’s a good QB but he’s been throwing the ball to the other team since Day 1 in the NFL

They're cursed until belichick retires

@@byZenon what does Belichick have to do with anything?

So cursed. When watson gets life in prison and they go 0-17 every year for the next 10 years they will fold

No, the Browns are the curse to those QBs.

They're not cursed. They just suck as an organization.

Any defense is giving up 30 to good teams when your QB gives that team the ball 4 times.

@@Robbbyyyyy Are you a browns fan that actually watches the games? Chiefs he had 321 yards, 2 tds, 1 pic, 97.5 rating. Vs the Chargers the browns offense put up 42 points, 305 yds passing 122.5 rating 0 picks. The defense gave up 47 to a team that would be held to 6 pts the very next week against the ravens. Where was that elite defense? Vs the cardinals 204 yds, 2 tds 1 pick, 102.4 rating. Defense gave up 37 ... The raiders they literally had 22 starters that weren't allowed to play. Anyone of those wins gets them into the playoffs. Baker was hurt and it showed. He's getting way too much blame. Lamar Jackson had a similar season but the ravens are not a knee jerk organization that knows how to build complete teams. We'll see how all the browns risks workout, there is no doubt watson is better.

He sounds prophetic to me.

I think Baker can make it awfully uncomfortable for them to do that. But it's a tough game for Baker to play. Because if he makes it uncomfortable in any way that the Browns could say they have cause for cutting him, maybe it would nullify the guaranteed money in the contract from the 5th year option and alleviate that money from the cap situation. Baker has to play this just right where he makes it JUST uncomfortable enough for the Browns where they decide to cut their losses, but not act in any way that the Browns could site as cause for release in a way that they could legally recoup the money.

I honestly think he should consider moving on from the NFL. It's a dying sport at this point.

@@jimlindsay9758 I guarantee you’re a hockey and baseball fan lmaoo

@@jimlindsay9758 i dont even comment on youtube ever lol that is just one of the craziest things ive ever read if you are being serious 😂🤯

@@lmohn612 You've not seen the tank in the ratings? I'm not talking about the fandom in your doublewide... I'm talking total U.S. numbers.

Screwing the league? Or screwing owners. I’m sure Players love all the guaranteed money the browns are giving out.

@@sly0422 nah. if QB's (the highest paid position) are getting fully guaranteed contracts, that screws over the other players cause there's less money to go around and making everyone else have to play cap space limbo. it screws both the owners and the players who don't play QB.

@@sly0422 I'm sure it goes both ways. Some players are happy to take the guaranteed money, and others would be more happy to follow a Brady model where the QB takes cuts to keep as much talent around them. Although, it's like pat says, winning cures everything. If you win a Superbowl I doubt anyone will care which approach was taken. It's just about which method ends up putting the best football on display and it could go either way.

@@MidnightShamalan it doesn’t screw the other players, because a QB gets paid by that logic anyone getting paid is screwing another player

@@brandonsmith9512 everyone brings up Brady model, most players aren’t married to a super model worth more than them like Brady is. He had the luxury of taking less money his wife is worth more than he is.

Nobody wants him currently because 1 hes rehabbing after surgery and 2 no one will trade for a guy the Browns will eventually just cut

He lost the lock room after the obj situation what's talent without heart and what's heart without trust

@@jerryriggs6911 He’s better than all of the guys that have rolled through there since Bernie, which isn’t saying a lot. I love his passion for the most part and maybe with an amazing defense (a la Trent Dilfer and the Ravens) he could win the big one. Deshaun Watson ( off field issues aside ) is a major upgrade. The Browns are going to be a tough out with him on the field.

Hey anytime you can spend $230 million on a guy with 22 sexual harassment accusations, you gotta do it.

Dude. Its the browns. The browns. Desean is gonna play like ass and baker is gonna go be a HOFer. Not because any of that should happen or any of it makes sense. Its because its the GAT DANG BROWNS and thats just what happens to them.

@@unhaix707 Dumb comment. Ask Vegas who actually puts their wallets on the line if that’s the case…..

You think Berry is putting together a good team?? The Deshaun Watson deal will prove a DISASTER. There's NO INCENTIVE for this immature troubled young guy to perform now!!! Cleveland will be yearning for the Mayfield days sooner than you can imagine.

Baker was the only and first player who actually walked into Cleveland, embraced the challenge and changed the culture with media coverage and results leading them to playoffs and even winning a game. The grass isn't always greener and loyalty is rewarding.

He was saying they may have sabotaged him in that last game of the season where he was sacked 9 times, not in general.

Obj and Jarvis suck and reasons why they are still on the market.

Cleveland media and fans were dogging him over odell’s Dad’s video. Last year people claimed he was better without obj, so which narrative is it? Watson’s an upgrade but no ill will toward Baker.

@@patricksapanaro4173 obj is on the market because he tore his acl, not cause he sucks. Jarvis was also hurt towards the end of season and was playing hurt. You’re lying to yourself

@@jideobiodobulu8462 explains even more reasons why the recievers couldn't get separation

Not true much probably. Teams wouldn’t purposely not get a QB that is better because they want to hold a grudge. Clearly teams don’t view baker as worth it

The fully guaranteed contract is no joke for QBs. If other teams have to start doing this too, it wouldnt surprise me at all if there is a vengeance move with it.

Very true they screwed the qb market for years with that contract. They will not reward a disfunction with a reward that would be draft capital and eating a cent of that contract. The browns are stupid enough to ask for both draft picks and eat that contract. You can't get both after you screw over 31 other teams with that contract to Watson

They literally made a trade during the draft. And got pretty good value. I don't know where this narrative that nobody will deal with them is coming from. I'd be more upset about the WR market right now. You're paying your QB 20% of the salary cap and you're supposed to give a WR a 30 mil contract when you can replace him with a guy in the draft that's almost as good?

Every rookie deals have been fully guaranteed so far so not just the qb market with guaranteed money

Speak for yourself!!

@@DrPhill96 why would you want someone to fail? You’re goofy

@@austin_madore9417 - The same reason I want you to fail. 😂 We all can’t win (you should know) there must be losers in order to have winners.

Baker bro is upset, awe

NFL is a business. He’s not good so bye bye

any other offense is gonna be harder

Yeah exactly this is the NFL and Bakers a millionaire. Don’t feel so bad. He wanted out of the offense way before he got traded.

I don't think the problem here is that Baker never did anything well. It's that he wasn't consistent from play to play, week to week and season to season. As far as the coaching turnover, a lot of that was based on Mayfield's preferences. By hiring Kitchens as HC, it's not like they were sticking Baker in a system he didn't know. They were promoting his guy that he had success with and the org wanted to keep that continuity. So we can't pretend like all this change happened to him and not *for* him. And some of it might go deeper than performance. We might have to come to terms with the fact that Baker has both good and bad qualities. When things were going well, his face was everywhere and he was talking *all* the sheet. But when the chips were down, his teammates didn't exactly come out swinging to protect him. You have to wonder why.

Matt Nagy disagrees about the HC remark, but didn't he also have one of the best rosters in the NFL backing him up?Weren't the bengals garbage until last year, and if you have to dig deep enough to find a statistic like "wins when the opponent scores 30+" then you know you're digging too deep

@@huntermorris7421 First playoff win in 30 years after being drafted by a team that went 1-31 with Myles on it. Sat rookie TD record with that same sorry ass team. When they win its the team when they lose it's him. If the Browns thought it was him they'd cut him. If they thought he was bad they wouldn't be asking for money and picks.

Didn't he petition for 1 of those bad coaches to be the hc?

@@drobert1741 He also threw a bunch of picks to be fair. Baker had a great rookie season but you have to admit he regressed or at least failed to improve in the rest of his seasons. He is an average QB that would go far later than #1 overall in a draft redo. Yes he won some games for Cleveland but he isn't "that guy" per say.

Just playing devils advocate here. But… They didn’t run an offense built for him though. 3 tight end sets consistently. No where close to the offense that he ran when he won the heisman.

@@whiteboyleflare lol, he also played injured all season… I think stefanski did set him up to fail. He didn’t change his gameplan at all regardless of the defensive weaknesses or his offensive strengths. Baker was the best QB the browns have had since 2000 lol and somehow stefanski gets no blame for finishing below .500 😂 and Connor is right, Chubb was their best player and Kareem was out, Chubb was 2nd in total yards and he was Ike 12th in total Carries😂 both Denver’s running backs each had almost as many as he had. And it’s not suprising that OBJ suddenly played well again when he had a coach who knows how to run an offense

His offensive line was trash

He had 1 good year, to be a 1st round draft pick he is a bust

Stafford played an entire season with a broken back lmaoo try again fan boy

@@AIANNAJAZMYN and Stafford always sucked when he was with a bad team. Perfect comparison.

He can’t hand it off to the best running back duo in the league with either hand either way lol 😂 baker sucks sorry to say bro

He had the opportunity to sit, but since Keenum won he couldn't have anyone outperforming him, so he decided to be selfish and not see the bigger picture. His own damn fault.

What did they do? They replaced him for someone much better and are trying to give him away and pay half his salary for someone to take him and no one wants him

So you're saying the Browns got into the playoffs and won a playoff game because of Baker's abilities at quarterback? I believe it had more to do with the two-headed monster in the backfield and a disruptive defensive line. But you're right he did hand the ball off some

@@yungheehong5613 they are asking for someone to take atleast half portion of the salary. How bad of a qb must you be if people can't pay up less than 10 mil for a supposed franchise QB? I am hoping he finds a place as well but he should have kept his trap shut rather than jerking off when news broke about Browns talking to Deshaun. If he'd behaved like an adult, he'd probably still be our qb

​@@timharsch5896 You are speculating here. once we speculate, we go down the rabbit hole of best and worst scenarios and give a non-essential factor more credit than it deserves. What we know is that Baker, statistically and "eye-test" wise played fairly well his 3rd season and so did his running backs. So all I can say, without speculating, is that Baker was in a team that was successful and he played somewhat of a key role due to his skillsets. And if your point is true, let's say his running backs are the main reason for their success, then how come they werent used as much the season after?

Never heard that! He's never respected the pecking order. Coach was kevin,and the gm was andrew. Where's the respect. Day one He's walked around like he actually own the team. Sorry bake didn't get it done with more talent than a Rodgers or dak Prescott.

@@lorenzo3473 Baker, time to ditch the burner account.

wym? He's insured by his fifth year option. He played injured because he knew he was guaranteed $18mil this upcoming season. You gotta remember he accepted his fifth year option last off-season before his injury even happened.

@@randy7796 yeah i know, but at some point this season his people must have attempted to gauge interest in an extension. If he's out there injured and the Browns aren't engaging, he's putting himself in a dangerous spot. All season long I was thinking "why is this guy out there in this state, he's either going to damage himself or his career".

@@sccroobyj4024 because he figured he still had a year insured for him to prove himself in the fifth year option. Plus, it's a mishap on the Browns' side as well. They should have either wanted to keep Baker healthy so they could properly assess him in his fifth year or to keep trade value up since they'd already signed him to that fifth year (being fully guaranteed). They'd be looking better if the last things teams saw regarding Baker was him leading the Browns to a playoff win over the Steelers and almost beating the Chiefs in that same post season, but instead, the last things teams remember is him struggling while injured, the Browns doing him zero favors, and some of his teammates publicly berating him. Baker is still getting his money regardless, so he's winning IMO. Whereas the Browns messed up by not taking care of him and subsequently being unable to get rid of him. Now they're stuck paying $18mil to a player who won't play for them and loads more millions of dollars to another player who might not play for them this season.

@@randy7796 yeah true, crazy situation, plus looks like the rest of the league aren't interested in helping the Browns after the Watson contract, so they won't make any trade easy.

He played because he knew Case is roughly the same player

Baker is being disrespected now just as much as Mitch Trubisky was in Chicago two seasons ago. And you can see from Chicago's record last season after Trubisky went into free agency how well THAT worked out for the Bears. This is why I am confident the "Watson experiment" will end in nothing but disaster for Cleveland!

that is absolutely ridiculous to say that and your bias is showing.

👨‍🍳💯

If the case is so clear then what made KS so sure it'd be Baker that left town and not himself?

Overrated lol sure bud

@@TheCroftwrestlers what’s with the condensation dude?

He never pulled thru he was trash

So let me get this straight. They spent three years with him in the locker room , like actually with him. You who has never been in the locker room says it was just the idea of him they loved.😂😂😂 It’s amazing the things we make up just sitting on the couch.

Skip, is this your burner account?

@@travionpatterson9776 Hahahah right I checked out after the first paragraph. It's always OBJ's fault, Baker playing injured, or the coaches fault... these Baker apologists NEVER put any sort of accountability on Baker. It's just pure comedy at this point

I think that's it. I think that's why a lot of owners are going weak in the knees for Baker. They're just weak.

Baker said he could play. Either you can take it or you can’t. He couldn’t.