Is It Time For Baker Mayfield & Browns To Both Move On? | Pat McAfee Reacts 

So with a QB who’s obviously hurt and the #2 RB in the league.. you decide not to run the ball... and leave a rookie Tackle solo against the front runner for DPOY... how did Stefanski think that was gonna be a winning strategy??

Glad you guys mentioned the obvious. This team is a mess and refused to run the ball what feels like all year with a solid o line and great backfield

It's honestly just sad... Baker came in hot for the Browns for his freshman year, then had a mess of a sophmore year. Then things became right again in his third year and you were hoping to see that in this season and it probably would've happened but everything just collapsed

i remember when the brahns went 8-8, then got odell and became super bowl favorites. what a roller coster of emotions dahn in cleveland’s

An injured QB and no movement of pocket or chipping of 90. There’s no question this was intended to expose BM. If it wasn’t, it’s gross incompetence

The Browns might have forgotten what things were like before he got there, but there are at least 10 teams in the NFL who would take him tomorrow

Stefanski was the biggest problem for the Browns this year. It was bizarre that they allowed Baker to keep playing poorly through injury, and then seemed to make him throw even more. Chubb was tearing apart defenses and they rarely ran the ball in crucial moments. I don't get the angle but it obviously didn't work.

Let’s not forget it only took the browns 40 years to get their hands on an average QB.

Still the best quarterback the Browns have had.

As a Browns fan, I agree with all of this. It feels like coach changes his game plan drastically every week. One week it’s like 50 carries the next 10. It’s so annoying to watch

I’m a Steelers fan but Baker’s play dropped ever since he’s been hurt. He needs to be at 100% to play w/his natural limitations. Let him get healthy & see if he can be a drop drop back passer who can throw with anticipation.

You do remember how bad the Browns were before Mayfield, right? 4 wins in 3 years.

As a Browns fan, I can't disagree with the discussion held here. It will be another interesting off season for us Browns fans. Here is looking forward to, "As the Brownies Turn." That is what I'm going to start calling each season. After all, the Browns are my most favorite soap opera.

Here’s what I’ll say, once baker came in they actually started to win games. Whether it was him or not, he did what a lot of QB’s couldn’t do in Cleveland.

2017 the Browns drafted Myles Garrett, Jabrill Peppers, and David Njoku in the first round. They could have drafted Mahomes or Watson and TJ Watt.

Dude did everything he could but nobody’s could fix that mess of a team till ownership changes...just facts

Been a fan for over 40 yrs..not since Kosar have we even been thought of in the playoffs.

A. Rodgers is NOT going to Cleveland lol No way in hell!

21.5 sacks in 14 games not to mention he left 3 or 4 games from injury

Baker & Brees have a similar start to their career, both turned teams around/ injured going into contract years & parted ways. Not saying Baker gonna be as good as Brees by anymeans but it makes it a little more interesting to watch his situation

TJ Watt and the defensive line ended bakers time with the browns 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Watching that I was mad for baker. For god sake GIVE THE ROOKIE RT SOME HELP 🤬😂😂😂

Browns have really shown that they don't care about baker. I hope he goes somewhere he's appreciated and make the browns regret ever letting him go.

Baker was the 8th best QB in the league last year when fully healthy. He progressed all 3 years in the league before this year and always had a QBR over 50 on PFF. The idea of him "maybe" getting an opportunity is crazy. Sean Payton would gobble up Baker so fast in that dome with 3/4 WRs sets. New Orleans will LOVE Baker Mayfield.

If we get rid of baker then we will go straight to the dumps again and I’m not saying that he makes our team what it is but he brought and energy to Cleveland we have not had since before i was even watching football. This team is awesome they just need to break that damn wall down of being a consistent team

Stafanski is the problem. Not baker. Baker needs things mixed up he needs help in backfield. And when he is healthy and they mix it up it’s a winning combination.

I think baker ends up in Houston next year, regardless of the Watson situation. I can just see him going home to Texas, out of every qb needy team I think they be the one to pull the trigger on him.

This is why I love this show- the fact you mentioned mike Glennon 😂

Chubb had a rib injury earlier in the game. Thats why he wasnt playing more.

How many sacks did tj have weekend before last against my Chiefs? ( Yes i know he is hurt, but didnt stop him last night) dude is a monster! I was quite shocked he didn't have an impact even with cracked ribs

Baker would be a great fit for the New Orleans Saints next year.

Remember last year when Jalen Hurts got benched by Doug Pederson for Nathan Sudfield then fired bc the locker room was like WTF? Baker represents the blue collar city of Cleveland showing up to work no matter how injured he is, would be a shame if they get rid of him before we can see what he can do when he’s actually healthy. They haven’t had a QB since Bernie Kosar. QBs don’t grow on trees

3:39 Pat’s really out here making Old Town Road references in 2022

Baker can win Cleveland a Super Bowl. Dude is a decent QB even with debilitating injuries and played through them until the team forced him to get surgery. Absolute mistake to part ways with Cleveland, but it's in line with history to let a title get away from them because of public opinion.

First of all, I don't have a dog in this fight, I am a 49ers fan, but if I may share my unimportant opinion...Baker is the best Browns quarterback since Bernie Kozar, I put this on ownership/management. Usually, that's the case when you have a team consistently having a losing season, and/or miss the playoffs. Trust me, I know a little about this.

The kid from the Christmas story was accurate AF 😂😂😂

He just did not say Mike Glennon 😂😂😂😂😂. I’m a Giants fan and love it!!!

Leaving Cleveland would be the best thing for any quarterback.

At least Baker is insured with Progressive for any damages or injury.

"If you lose your fo'show $$, looking fo mo $$, you might have NO $$." P-Mac Best quote of the entire year!!!

No. It is time for the Browns to part ways with Stefanski. Chubb should get the ball minimum 25-30 times a game. Mayfield even with the labrum issue was still getting more zip on the ball than Matt Ryan is being 100% healthy (I am a Falcons fan). Chubb is averaging 5.5 YPC on the season and you have Mayfield throwing the ball 38 times while Chubb runs the ball only 12 times????? What sense does that make? It is like Stefanski wants Mayfield to fail. But hey. If the Browns want to let him go; I hope he comes to Atlanta because Atlanta dropped the ball when they did not draft a QB in a QB heavy draft this past season. Why they didnt go after Mac Jones is beyond me.

If the BRAWWNS get rid of BM they deserve 10 more years of bad QB play. This is an obvious coaching Issue.

it honestly kind of feels like the browns purposely were hanging baker out to dry, so to speak. they have the best interior o-line in the league and a top 5 running back yet constantly put baker in situations where you almost know he won't succeed. add on top of the injuries he's playing with. i'm not advocating that baker is anything more than average either, i'm more making the point that this is perhaps the most blatant example of the organization as a whole constantly ruining quarterbacks by putting them in situations where they cannot succeed. there is no reason chubb should not be getting at minimum 20 carries a game. it's very frustrating to watch as a fan bc you're essentially stuck with baker for at least another season, barring some crazy acquisition for watson or rodgers; trading for players like cousins or carr make no sense as that's at best a very minor upgrade. so why not put your team in the best position to compete and win by utilizing your strengths instead of trying to make baker into something he's not, or not yet. makes no sense to me other than to just sum it up as, it's cleveland.

Browns have an excellent QB2 and a QB3 that is healthy. Bakersfield was playing seriously injured and should have been benched 8 games ago.

I do feel like Cleveland needs stability at QB after such a circus of people coming in and out. I think the game plan needs to be adjusted and they need to get some consistency in the personnel.

As a Ravens fan i cant beleive the browns figured a way to not even make the playoffs this year with that much talent

There was one point last night where TJ looked like Pennywise when he ran down the hall way shaking and I couldn't stop laughing at the fear in Bakers eyes 😂

Broncos, Texans, Saints, Bears, Carolina, Giants ... etc

Baker gets sacked 4 times by one guy and instead of questioning the coaching and the o-line it must be bakers fault

I could see Baker being a Saint next season. He'd be a hell of alot better than Winston

It says the Browns may take one of the 2 top QBs if they fall to them though I don't think they would make a Bears move for one of them, maybe a 2nd to move up. They may want to convince the owner and fans this is not Love in GB and he does not want static from fans or veto from ownership if it happens. If they don't have a move on QB when he is gone, they might as well blow up the team to get a top 10 pick. I would like to see them deal with a $40M cap hit from a big QB, I think they would have a hard time preforming at even their current level with the cuts they would have to make. GB or Seattle had several years not signing free agents to get where they are, you drop that on a team not prepared there are cuts, dead cap, more cuts.

TJ Watt should be arrested for assault and battery after that game.. 🤣🤣🤣

that was ruff with the Chubb joke but on point

It’s time for the browns to move on from the NFL.

If bake leaves he will haunt the Browns for the rest of his career

Tj watt = that water boy anger. Do yourself a favor and make the Adam Sandler, water boy “war cry” every time he goes in for rush 😭 I love it.

Plenty of teams would be happy to have Baker. If he moves I would speculate his first choice would be the Steelers.

How’re the browns ever going to evolve if they keep going from QB to QB? I feel like they finally need to build around him to keep their team on pace. Changing Qbs interrupts the entire rhythm of the offense.

As a Browns fan, I'm in favor of the Garoppolo plan. If there's a talented QB that falls, scoop him up in case Baker gets hurt. Otherwise, I think the Browns can win with a healthy Baker.

I don't even understand how Diggs is in the conversation. Man's has the most picks, cause he's the most targeted corner in the league. Why, cause he gives up the most.

Commentary on day 1 needed more of McCafé baybay in my Jericho voice

Baker is the best thing to happen to the Browns in 30 years. Of course they'd say "not good enough" and go through another 3 decades of quarterback carousel.

Love the idea of Gardner in Cleveland next year. Play Action QB and good fit personality wise.

Bring him to the Colts like Trent Richardson 🤣

This is one of the dumbest things in the NFL. It should be very simple. If you have to even debate if a QB is worth resigning, you move on.

I’m a Steelers fan and I want baker. I think he’s kind of like a Carson wentz trade. I think we could work with him it we just need an offensive coordinator. It’s a miracle we won 8 games this year. Rudy isn’t it at all. I don’t really want a young QB in the draft because he can’t learn behind an experienced QB. We aren’t in full rebuild mode yet because we’ve already got some solid talent.

Coming from a Panther fan, there is no doubt in my mind that somebody would pick Baker up, as their starter. Maybe even the Panthers, lmao.

Da Cleveland Clawns lol

We started playing for draft pick weeks ago

I think it’s true that they’re intentionally making Baker throw. It’s obvious… and it’s also necessary. They needed to know what they have in him before they make a decision on his future with the Browns. It makes sense , it’s smart. They need to know that they can trust him when the game is on his shoulders… and it doesn’t appear that they can. Someone will definitely trade for him… but what is he worth? A third?

2020 must've been a fluke. I think Matt LeFleur had a poor season for his second year. I do not understand why Stefanski didn't run the ball and Baker should've sat out at least ONE GAME. And why did they go from what they're doing last year to this year? C'mon man!

Personal opinion for both sides of the ball for the browns. Their offense is weird. It’s supposed to be run first then spread the ball with the play action pass. They have talented receivers but couldn’t figure how to use them. It feels like only Higgins gets open. The play calling for Odell was never there either. Then on defense the media acts as if it’s elite but it’s really not. The defense is slightly above average with a lot of talented young players but the only stars they have is still Garrett and Ward. I say new head coach. You don’t have much to offer a free agent Vet

Can you IMAGINE... if the Browns BEAT KC last year - there wouldnt even be this discussion no matter how his season went. That was the most costly loss for him. I feel like Derek Carr is at a similar crossroads.

WR and Pass protection is the Browns biggest needs

Aww man. Send him to New Orleans. We will make him great 😉

When I can call the play from the couch it's a sad day

No one is gonna mention that Aj looks like the Na'vi from Avatar !

Fun fact… the GB Packers of Wisconsin, TJ’s home…. Yea they passed on TJ in the draft even though they need an OLB. Same front office that wants / wanted to move on from Rodgers. FML 🤦‍♂️

10:56 "If you lose your fo' sho' money looking fo' mo' money, you might end up with no money." _-says Pat McAfee that retired early to start a career on the internet_ Love you Pat, but lol

🎶 F’n over yo fa sho puzzy trying to get some mo puzzy….you end up with no puzzy….no puzzy 🎶 Pat deserves every bit of that new contract if he lowkey knows that song lol

Chubb shouldn’t take another Carry all year. Save those miles for when you’re not eliminated from the playoffs. These guys only last about 2000 Carries MAX.

They have to see next year when he is fully healthy . you can't judge him when he is hurt. I'm not a baker fan but I think he has the tools and toughness to be a good QB.

TJ was shafted the last couple of years coming in 2nd and 3rd for DPOY. He should have won at least one of those, and would be getting his second right now.

I think it's more about the Browns than it is Baker and watching that game last night, I honestly felt like there was a point where they felt like it just wasn't gonna be their night so they kinda started giving up. I've heard all the stories about Baker losing the locker room because of what went down with OBJ and I'd like to not think that professionals being paid millions to do something that most people have to stop doing after high school wouldn't intentionally drop easy passes just to make a quarterback they don't like look bad but it honestly felt that way at a certain point last night. I've been a Steelers fan since I was about eight years old so I'm obviously not a Browns fan but I'm also an OU fan so I still wanna see Baker succeed when he's not playing against the Steelers. Getting out of Cleveland probably would be the best bet for him. I don't know where he could go that's equipped for him to immediately show that he wasn't the problem but that's especially hard to do now with the way the media is. Once you start to struggle, it kinda just starts a landslide of negativity from the media and fans that's hard to get away from. I just think the Browns as an organization are not a winning group right now from a management standpoint. The way it looked last night, I would probably 85-90% believe that Stefanski is low key sabotaging Baker by making him play hurt against a very physical defense and not running the ball against what is also a not very good run defense. Chubb opens the game by breaking off a 30 yard run and then they just stop giving him the ball. Stefanski says something about a rib injury but the dude still averaged seven yards per carry. Something's not stirring the Kool Aid there to me.

1:04, what's with the picture of Andy Dalton here?

Baker to the Steelers

Baker could start for half the teams in the NFL. I wouldn't pay him top shelf money to sacrifice the payroll for the rest of the team. If Cleveland took a page from the Pats' complementary handbook; run the ball, strong D up front, good special teams, don't turn it over, they'd be in the playoffs. I could see Baker in Denver, New Orleans, or Washington in '22 or '23.

TJ was squeezing poor Guy on the ground every time he sacs him.

The biggest indictment on Baker as far as going somewhere else is that where is he gonna go that would be able to put him in a better situation than he was in Cleveland with that line and run game. So if he is this bad with all that around him, how bad would he be pretty much anywhere else where they don’t have that

As a Browns fan, Kevin is the problem with this team. The coaching staff should have pulled Baker after the Cards game to do surgery and heal up. Look at what the Ravens did with Lamar after his ankle injury. Immediately rested him to heal up. Now they are likely headed to the playoffs and we are done. Outside of that play calling has been abysmal this year as has general offensive schemes and adjustment. For example TJ was double teamed only TWICE yesterday against a rookie tackle that tried his best. Terrible coaching.

Cleveland would be better off if Baker stayed and the Browns left town.

Unless the browns can make a splash move for Rodgers, Wilson, or Watson he will serve as a transitional guy for the early round qb they draft.

dood has thrown more interceptions than any other active starting qb in the league, and he is the quarterback of a run first play action style team. he just doesnt throw the ball well. injuries aside its always been that because he doesnt handle pressure... at all. hes tough as hell and he clearly cares about his team, but, despite all that, production matters. he had a great season last year but still threw balls to the moon and this year with the injuries it was even worse. for a team with so many offensive weapons and to have been in so many close games they should have won you have to look somewhere. As a browns fan i like sending baker to seattle for russ or even getting huntley from baltimore. maybe even the kid from liberty to develop under a guy like russ.

I blame coaches. Baked was the most accurate confident QB in college. Couldn't touch him. Best reads of any QB. Tight accurate throws.

They had a lot of dropped passes.

I’m curious if the Steelers will make a play at landing Mayfield? Not saying it’s a good or bad idea, but I could kind of see it happening. That or Russel Wilson.

Leave fo sho money, looking for mo money, might leave you with no money. Best line ever

They shouldn’t have played him hurt for 10 weeks, but I do think it’s time to part ways and it’s crazy how many commercials this guy does. He’s a game manager. You can win like that. But he’s not gonna be what takes a team to the next level. I wouldn’t put him in the top half of QBs, and that means you need a QB.

He’ll be Justin Fields backup in Chicago or a Jet

When people say Baker is a poor man's Philip Rivers, I see more of a Middle Class Blake Bortles

No Pat, Andy Dalton is Scott Farkas. Do a split screen. It's nuts.